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Makeveli_lives
03/03/24 10:29:32 AM
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Tried to watch multiple times and got like an hour in and turned it off every time. Felt like nothing was happening. Got to the sandworm part and I was just bored AF.

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FunWithAFryPan
03/03/24 10:30:50 AM
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Just you.

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modena
03/03/24 10:32:31 AM
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I had a discussion at the bar about this. We all came up with sand worms and spice. I thought I was alone too, but none of us could explain the plot.

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Smackems
03/03/24 10:34:02 AM
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That was actually the end of the movie

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cjsdowg
03/03/24 10:37:51 AM
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I felt like I was the only geek in the world that found it boring.

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PraetorXyn
03/03/24 10:38:01 AM
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Dune was a very trippy book, and its not great as a story IMO, though it has top notch world building and philosophy in it.

As for getting it, this is basically all there is to it. Frank Herbert saw the way people practically worshipped JFK. He didnt trust charismatic leaders and felt that following them could only lead to disaster. So thats basically what Dune as a story is about, but that mostly comes in after the first book.

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mercurydude
03/03/24 10:41:32 AM
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I didn't have a problem understanding it, but I also read the book years ago... that helps out a lot, probably.

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mustachedmystic
03/03/24 10:41:36 AM
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it very good. At least for me, movies like this take multiple screenings to really understand.

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Ar0ge
03/03/24 10:47:36 AM
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Well you aren't gonna get it if you keep turning it off after only and hour.
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blackrider76
03/03/24 10:48:59 AM
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I dont understand how it apparently has mainstream appeal. Feels like Part 2 is being hyped like a Star Wars entry, with the marketing budget to show for it.

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PraetorXyn
03/03/24 10:52:15 AM
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blackrider76 posted...
I dont understand how it apparently has mainstream appeal. Feels like Part 2 is being hyped like a Star Wars entry, with the marketing budget to show for it.
Thats marketing at work. Though Star Wars is basically just a mishmash of Dune and Akira Kurosawa films.

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gatorsPENSbucs
03/03/24 10:52:21 AM
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Never seen any of it, not even the slightest bit of interest in it.

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Gobstoppers12
03/03/24 10:54:25 AM
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I "get it," but it loses me with its mumbo jumbo world building in the first movie. Took me and my gf 3 tries to watch the whole thing, picking up where we left off each time.

It was just very, very dense with jargon and exposition. Most of it felt hokey to me. I give the franchise credit for being an early success in the space epic genre, but boy did some of those concepts age with questionable grace in the mean time.

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vycebrand2
03/03/24 11:13:31 AM
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PraetorXyn posted...
Thats marketing at work. Though Star Wars is basically just a mishmash of Dune and Akira Kurosawa films.
Been saying this for years. Dune was released just a handful of years before Lucas "came up with" SW. The influence is everywhere

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Smackems
03/03/24 11:18:59 AM
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I feel like y'all don't understand worm

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lilORANG
03/03/24 11:19:11 AM
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There are worms and people use spice. Not too different from the real world.

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Smackems
03/03/24 11:26:05 AM
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The tech in it is really fuckin cool

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PraetorXyn
03/03/24 11:26:17 AM
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vycebrand2 posted...
Been saying this for years. Dune was released just a handful of years before Lucas "came up with" SW. The influence is everywhere
I have a meme saved somewhere with a list of stuff Oucas just lifted from Dune side by side. The biggest example is God Emperor Leto II ~> Jabba the Hutt.

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VampireCoyote
03/03/24 11:27:54 AM
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The moral of the story is that drugs are good

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Nok_Su_Kow
03/03/24 11:29:27 AM
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The book was boring, the movie and the first part of its remake were boring. Didn't see the miniseries but that sega Genesis game was alright.
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boomgetchopped3
03/03/24 11:34:13 AM
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Tbf if youre going in fresh to this movie it can be very unclear whats going on. Because Dune has been in the zeitgeist forever Villeneuve is expecting the audience to fill in the gaps.

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Heineken14
03/03/24 11:37:44 AM
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PraetorXyn posted...
Dune was a very trippy book, and its not great as a story IMO, though it has top notch world building and philosophy in it.

As for getting it, this is basically all there is to it. Frank Herbert saw the way people practically worshipped JFK. He didnt trust charismatic leaders and felt that following them could only lead to disaster. So thats basically what Dune as a story is about, but that mostly comes in after the first book.

Imagine what he would have thought about the rise of the cult of Donnie. lol

But yeah, really this is just what happens when you give a property to someone to treats it with respect. Just like with Nolan and the Batman movies, you end up with extremely high quality movies that touch your nerd bone.


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Payzmaykr
03/03/24 11:40:42 AM
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Heres what I took from it:

The main characters mom taught him some sort of telepathic powers. The bad guys are strip mining places for spice (which helps them travel) and they treat the planets and their people like dirt. The main character (Paul?) has to master his powers to stand up to the bad guys (who I forgot their name).

I still havent seen the second one or the original movie and I havent read the book(s) yet. On a side note, why does everyone seem to dislike the actor who plays the main character?
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Luteo
03/03/24 11:54:01 AM
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I wonder if the book or movies address if spice can be synthesized or if they even attempt to synthesize it

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FolkenRawr
03/03/24 11:56:55 AM
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I definitely intend to rewatch 1 before I watch 2. I remember very little of the detail in 1

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FortuneCookie
03/03/24 11:56:57 AM
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It never called to me, really. I know that it has giant penis-worms and a heavyset pedophile villain whom even the original author admitted was comedically evil. Oh, and there's something about acquiring/controlling spice.

I have little doubt that the series was influential on some of the works that I enjoy though. Dune's sandworms might have been a direct inspiration on Beetlejuice's sandworms. And I'm pretty sure that there have been levels of video games I've played that have borrowed from Dune's imagery.
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Null_Gain
03/03/24 11:58:11 AM
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Payzmaykr posted...
Heres what I took from it:

The main characters mom taught him some sort of telepathic powers. The bad guys are strip mining places for spice (which helps them travel) and they treat the planets and their people like dirt. The main character (Paul?) has to master his powers to stand up to the bad guys (who I forgot their name).

I still havent seen the second one or the original movie and I havent read the book(s) yet. On a side note, why does everyone seem to dislike the actor who plays the main character?

He is dating a Kardashian so he is in that social media circle now.

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MrKapowski
03/03/24 12:01:29 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/6917c29d.jpg

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Zwijn
03/03/24 12:03:25 PM
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Seen the first entry twice and while I like the setting I found it boring, didnt do much for me.
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PoopPotato
03/03/24 12:08:11 PM
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Something along the lines of seizing power by letting another clan run the spice trade, and purposely letting them fail at it so the government has an excuse to get rid of said clan.
Meanwhile, the Taliban is trying to enjoy their desert so they just ride sand worms and shoot at anyone trying to take their opium.

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X8Azazel8X
03/03/24 12:13:02 PM
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I like it. I understood it the first time I saw it. The original movie is pretty good too. Haven't read the books.

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BB_mofo
03/03/24 12:22:55 PM
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modena posted...
I had a discussion at the bar about this. We all came up with sand worms and spice. I thought I was alone too, but none of us could explain the plot.

Fun fact:
The first Dune adaptation back in the 80s came with a spoiler-free pamphlet handed to you upon purchasing a ticket. It explained parts of the movie that the director never got to but were considered important for understanding the plot. That's the sign of a bad adaptation and makes you appreciate the LOTR trilogy for what it accomplished considering LOTR was also once deemed unfilmable.

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1NfamousACE_2
03/03/24 12:25:08 PM
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I was disinterested in the first one for like the first 30 minutes

but then it got good. Ill need to watch it again before seeing the next one though

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mercurydude
03/03/24 12:25:44 PM
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Payzmaykr posted...
On a side note, why does everyone seem to dislike the actor who plays the main character?

They just jealous of his boogie.

https://i.imgur.com/8aEEzCR.mp4

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Vegy
03/03/24 12:26:42 PM
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Definitely overrated imo

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ClayGuida
03/03/24 12:26:51 PM
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Why not just finish it? You've supposedly spent more time trying to watch it than actually just watching it through. It's 2.5 hours.

As for the movie itself, it's absolutely beautiful visually, as are all Denis films. He's probably the best director out there right now. You can see the time and effort he puts into his films and as a film lover, I absolutely appreciate that. If his next movie was about Russell crow taking a shit, I'd still see it day one.

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C_Pain
03/03/24 12:27:27 PM
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Part 1 was my first exposure to it aside from knowing the name and yes, I found it boring as well. I don't even care to watch part 2 honestly.

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ClayGuida
03/03/24 12:31:50 PM
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mercurydude posted...
They just jealous of his boogie.

https://i.imgur.com/8aEEzCR.mp4
That's just to avoid the sandworms.

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WingsOfGood
03/03/24 12:33:07 PM
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Nothing about it is complicated but the political intrigue.
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vycebrand2
03/03/24 1:10:13 PM
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PraetorXyn posted...
I have a meme saved somewhere with a list of stuff Oucas just lifted from Dune side by side. The biggest example is God Emperor Leto II ~> Jabba the Hutt.
Now that you pointed it out. I cannot unsee it. Wow.

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Makeveli_lives
03/03/24 1:10:29 PM
#43:


WingsOfGood posted...
Nothing about it is complicated but the political intrigue.

Gobstoppers12 posted...
I "get it," but it loses me with its mumbo jumbo world building in the first movie. Took me and my gf 3 tries to watch the whole thing, picking up where we left off each time.

It was just very, very dense with jargon and exposition. Most of it felt hokey to me. I give the franchise credit for being an early success in the space epic genre, but boy did some of those concepts age with questionable grace in the mean time.


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ablegator
03/03/24 1:12:45 PM
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I never understood why Patrick Stewart had a pug with home in the Lynch version.

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vycebrand2
03/03/24 1:17:24 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
I "get it," but it loses me with its mumbo jumbo world building in the first movie. Took me and my gf 3 tries to watch the whole thing, picking up where we left off each time.

It was just very, very dense with jargon and exposition. Most of it felt hokey to me. I give the franchise credit for being an early success in the space epic genre, but boy did some of those concepts age with questionable grace in the mean time.
I prefer the lynch version. It's was very hard to fit all that in a 2 hour movie but it does it. It has the navigators etc. Which was the whole purpose for the spice( expanding the empire). Taking that out you are left with why are they fighting over all this?

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Returning_CEmen
03/03/24 1:23:32 PM
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Didnt interest me either
too much going on and not enough effort to introduce and explain that world to us.

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Nirvanas_Nox
03/03/24 1:23:53 PM
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I understood it. I just didn't like it. Then again I didn't like the books either.

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MabusIncarnate
03/03/24 1:26:22 PM
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Dune is boring and sucks. It needed to be said.

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AsucaHayashi
03/03/24 1:26:33 PM
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not just you. Instead of telling the story there was just lots of pretentious filmmaking in the process with a director that just became a little too full of himself.

oohh look at how beautiful we made this and look at how deep and meaningful we made that.

cut out all the slow shots and the lead actors obnoxious close ups of his face during his visions and it would probably be a much better paced 2 hour movie.


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