Board 8 > Valentine's Day Mafia Topic 10: Can Love Bloom on a Battlefield?

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Oh right FD I forgot to gloat that I was right there is a way to have an even amount of kills! Modkills! Eat that!

Oh right FD I forgot to gloat that I was right there is a way to have an even amount of kills! Modkills! Eat that!

• Was scanned innocent by red
• Had a bodyguard die for them and subsequently has said peanuts other than getting in a pissing contest with Lopen, up to and including threatening ignore.
• Has spent the other time whining of no ISO easy button
• Is a known prior 3P felon Bulbasaur

Well so far from the group of 4 MZero and Sultan have both tacitly agreed.

And from the group of 5 I think everyone but JC has indicated agreement if that constitutes agreement on your part, Chris.

Perhaps it's that easy and it's just Isquen/Ulti, or one of the other two is just crossing their fingers and hoping we hit town first and then decide to abandon the plan tomorrow.

Either way confirmation from JC would be nice and then we can get moving.

Ulti: Perhaps the worst #Datal track record of them all. Paired with red immediately day 1, gave red a full and complete pass. Was paired with Kirby for most of day 2 I believe until Kirby broke it off, and then he did the confirm/breakup dance with Dumey before leaving his fate "in dumey's hands". Cut to today where he became the new red, spamming date requests, got accepted by MZero, who he's shown no signs of being willing to break it off with. On track for a repeat performance of day 1.

I've said multiple times today that I'd prefer to lynch one of Ulti or MZero. They are currently dating each other though so barring either of them as an option I'd go down my list to either Sultan or Isquen.

Which is exactly why there is no chance the timing would work this way (which was later confirmed by Chang when the discussion about the scan persisted). I view this as Ulti digging in a wrong direction to waste town's time on something irrelevant.

Anyways i'm gonna be in and out until after we hit the 6 hour mark, do we have recent votals?

as far as I can tell Ulti and MZero are still paired despite mzero's belief that it wouldn't or couldn't last? Disappointing if so.

For me it's just going to be MZero and Ulti still and I have no confidence in today not being a mislynch anymore.

I was upset earlier when MZero and Ulti were paired, but my next options were Sultan or Isquen. But then even when MZero and Ulti broke up all four of them still just ended up paired with each other. Not only that but now if there are 2 scum in that group of 4 and they aren't paired today, they can just pair up tomorrow! I'm not happy that all of them avoided even being the bottom 5. No risky deals or dates needed to be struck to save any of them from an actually dangerous moment.

but FD is pinging me because hes been entirely too nice to me this game. Town FD would have tried to full murder me ages ago I feel.

Occulam's Razor says Chris is just town, but it's not a stretch or anything

I mean scum has no killing power. They might not even have a blocker considering the killed red and Corrik instead of blocking them and killing you (last night). What's even left beside scanning? lol

They might not even have a blocker

The last game I played here Ulti was full of it but was also town, oddly not a scum tell for ulti

He was equally full of it last game as scum. So maybe it's in his town range, but I'd prefer that he simply learn that being ridiculously full of it will get him killed and he should not do that anymore.

I dont think fd not moving means much for fd tbh, given it was stipulated to, but for sultan i think its a good look still.

So I don't know where changmas got this game idea from, but 12-3 is considered very standard most places. Scum has np kp, but also it should be very hard to actually kill scum early. Godfather prosty, being self confirming and ignoring the only two town scanners, is very dumb in this format as its essentially a cheat code for a game thats obviously low complexity in roles to make up for the gimmick

the fact I need to keep explaining this is pretty amazing tbh

I feel like I want alignment indicative things to kill people for on day 4 not NAI ones tho

although now that I think about it 2 scum win in 5 if they didn't pair up the previous day, right?

Lopen - 03/02/2024 11:01 AM
Leaning Dumey + Ulti or Dumey + Sultan but yeah
Yeah just do what you cam
Can
Isquen 03/02/2024 11:01 AM
I'm less inclined to believe Ulti because he didnt immediately 180 until it became clear I was shutting him down yesterday
Sultan I just dont know, he's keeping his head down
Lopen 03/02/2024 11:02 AM
Yeah that's what I was thinking
He seems very head down
Ulti doing a 180 isn't always alignment indicative unfortunately
Are you feeling any of JC FD Kirby Mzero have to be town?
Isquen 03/02/2024 11:03 AM
FD is spreadsheet happy, which is handy for tracking, but is abrasive when it comes to not-data
Kirby is always either loud wrong or blatant scum, but the fake outrage is muddling it a bit. He seemed very comfortable end of day for some reason, and the circumstances of day 1 dont look good for him if Dumey is a lock
JC is giving off identical vibes to Lea and I need to look into him more
MZero I was comfortable with extending a date to, and I think him NOT accepting it looked better for him when I know I'm a juicy target.
Juicy day 2 ML target* that is.
I think I need to reread day 1 though, I lost a lot of my train of thought feeling sick yesterday
Also to reiterate: Ulti NOT doing a 180 is generally more alignment indicative than him doing so.
Like I'd rather you didnt shoot me at this point if you're one of town's only ways to clear a hiding scum, especially if one of them immediately latches to red, but
Meh idk anymore
Lopen 03/02/2024 11:12 AM
Well red is nk
Isquen 03/02/2024 11:12 AM
But if you dont then red dies, yeah
Lopen 03/02/2024 11:12 AM
And if Kirby is scum we are hosed if I don't redirect
Since we don't get the scan
So if we need you to live we need to townclear Kirby

Lopen 03/02/2024 3:19 PM
I will say
If Red doesn't get roleblocked we can probably assume GF
In which case things get Interesting
BUT
If Kirby said he didn't get roleblocked and I don't get roleblocked either then I'm kinda doubting Kirby first before assuming GF
Dumey Ulti interaction end of day 2 is interesting
He keeps asking if Ulti is OK with him breaking up despite Ulti having a break up request out and saying repeatedly do it
This could be theatre but I almost think this is Dumey looking for an out to not break up
Feeling Ulti is town pretty hard honestly
I can almost see him 180ing into no self preservation after claiming because he knew the gig was up
So it's like.
Dumey + Mzero/Sultan
Lopen 03/02/2024 3:27 PM
Kirby vs Lea honestly all the hesitation
Even ignoring Lea's wishes I kinda think that clears Kirby
Super ballsy play
If you assume Ulti is town
Sultan pairing with him earlier that day looks like a pocket attempt
Dumey says he'd triple die on Sultan + Chris tomorrow
Question is if that's Wifom or does that make his partner Mzero
Dumey arguing HARD for scum Lea logic
It's gotta be Dumey
FD paired with Dumey didn't he
Night 1
FD saying the Dumey logic made sense is making me sus now
If FD pairs with Dumey tomorrow then that's lock the team
Wait
Kirby and FD
Ok no FD is cleared
Lopen 03/02/2024 3:34 PM
JC paired with Dumey n1. I wonder whu
Sultans thoughts day 1 on Peaf's claim imply he's trying to validate it
Mzero also kinda suspected Peaf hard early
He called out a post sounding like a lie
Which is really strong. Don't think scum does that to scum
Think it's Dumey + Sultan

Kirby is also town, but if the entire game is ready to kill him then throw him in a triple kill with Sultan and Justin and be done with it.