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jumi
09/09/24 5:10:29 AM
#52:


Cowboy Bebop is overrated and Outlaw Star is a better show in the same genre.

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tankboy
09/09/24 5:10:31 AM
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Mobile Suit Gundam: The 08th MS Team is the best Gundam.
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Piplup_Sniper
09/09/24 5:13:47 AM
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Im not a fan of the overtly simplified anime art styles that pretty much omit facial details like noses. It makes everything a bit too samey.

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manila2k1
09/09/24 5:14:16 AM
#55:


tankboy posted...
Mobile Suit Gundam: The 08th MS Team is the best Gundam.
Conversely, I find that Gundam Wing is grievously overrated.

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KajeI
09/09/24 5:14:57 AM
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The original NGE is mid at best and RahXephon is just NGE if it was actually good.

Also I liked what they did with the homunculi in FMA in the OG anime more than them in Brotherhood, but I haven't actually watched the OG since I was real young so I need to go rewatch and see if that actually holds up or not.

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jumi
09/09/24 5:16:42 AM
#57:


manila2k1 posted...
Conversely, I find that Gundam Wing is grievously overrated.

G Gundam is trash.

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party_animal07
09/09/24 5:19:39 AM
#58:


Ivany2008 posted...
Fixed.
You didn't have to go that hard

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cjsdowg
09/09/24 5:28:19 AM
#59:




Full Metal Alchemist does some things better than its remake Brotherhood.

This might be a hot take but I agree with it.

Also another hot take.

One Piece are is so ugly too me.


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Ivany2008
09/09/24 5:51:50 AM
#60:


party_animal07 posted...
You didn't have to go that hard

I didn't, but much like Frank Costanza, I got a lot of problems with anime, and now your going to hear about them. Plus I didn't want to bother dealing with another warning.
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party_animal07
09/09/24 5:56:08 AM
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I don't even think that's much of a hot take. I'm a diehard fan of Brotherhood, but the og definitely does some things better.

TheTucker and Nina arc was better as it wa more fleshed out. The 7 sins being related to the main cast had potential, but fell short.

I also like the darker tone of the og series, but don't prefer it. I like a little sweetness in my dark chocolate.


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RndmNmber1
09/09/24 6:06:26 AM
#62:


Evangelion Rebuild is better than TV series, and I will die on this hill.

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AndyReklaw
09/09/24 6:07:44 AM
#63:


Super Heroes is the best piece of Dragon Ball content (even if Beast Form sucks).

There are plenty of awesome modern dubs.

Localization is generally good.

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manila2k1
09/09/24 6:14:08 AM
#64:


Carl Macek was a necessary evil. He butchered Macross but was instrumental in bringing anime to the west.

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Piplup_Sniper
09/09/24 6:33:46 AM
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Piplup_Sniper posted...
Im not a fan of the overtly simplified anime art styles that pretty much omit facial details like noses. It makes everything a bit too samey.
also wanted to expand because of this tweet I saw as a response to same face accusation for anime. Obviously the bottom faces arent identical but they have the same facial structure, lack of nose and simplified facial features like the mouth being a simple line make them have a samey look. Obviously not all anime is like this, theres anime art styles that do draw noses and dont skimp on facial details but this is the style Im talking about.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/c89725dc.jpg

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Sufferedphoenix
09/09/24 9:18:31 AM
#66:


I don't get the appeal of slice or life anime.

As a concept I can see why some people would like it but the few I've seen it's like the execution was always very lacking and there was just this vibe I can only describe as empty.

Closest I've enjoyed is gravitation but that's more a romance with some comedy anime and even it suffered a tad from the empty feeling. Had I need read most of the manga series I probably would have walked away from it too.

Idk my brain is wired weird if there isn't a active conflict that requires fighting I'm generally not interested and this spreads across most media tv movies games etc. it's weird cause I'm borderline pacifist

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K181
09/09/24 9:56:30 AM
#67:


Oh, and strict adherence to subs over dubs is just nonsensical snobbery, except in the now rare circumstances where a dub is botched. Most dubs nowadays are professionally done and at least decent.

First of all, subtitles are meant to either translate someone speaking that others on screen aren't meant to understand or to further emphasize a sense of other on some characters to the audience. When everyone is subbed, those distinctions aren't made.

Second, you watch different when you're reading than not, so your eyes aren't as focused on the intended centerpoint of a given scene.

Third, you almost assuredly don't speak the language, so you don't have a meaningful capacity to understand or appreciate the quality, or lack thereof, of the original VAs. You've just watched so many subs that you've come to expect moonspeak as a background noise as par for the course. There are good and bad voice acting performances on both sides of the Pacific, it's not all quality over there and mostly shit over here.

Oh, and sometimes it's okay to actually translate an attack name. When an attack name's in Japanese, it's being said with the understanding that the audience understands what the dude's saying. If something means something in Japanese and the dub says that in English, they didn't ruin your childhood.

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SwayM
09/09/24 10:35:59 AM
#68:


K181 posted...
Oh, and strict adherence to subs over dubs is just nonsensical snobbery, except in the now rare circumstances where a dub is botched. Most dubs nowadays are professionally done and at least decent.

First of all, subtitles are meant to either translate someone speaking that others on screen aren't meant to understand or to further emphasize a sense of other on some characters to the audience. When everyone is subbed, those distinctions aren't made.

Second, you watch different when you're reading than not, so your eyes aren't as focused on the intended centerpoint of a given scene.

Third, you almost assuredly don't speak the language, so you don't have a meaningful capacity to understand or appreciate the quality, or lack thereof, of the original VAs. You've just watched so many subs that you've come to expect moonspeak as a background noise as par for the course. There are good and bad voice acting performances on both sides of the Pacific, it's not all quality over there and mostly shit over here.

Oh, and sometimes it's okay to actually translate an attack name. When an attack name's in Japanese, it's being said with the understanding that the audience understands what the dude's saying. If something means something in Japanese and the dub says that in English, they didn't ruin your childhood.

Couldn't agree more with this.

I truly think it's mostly just pretentious BS.

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Sufferedphoenix
09/09/24 10:38:21 AM
#69:


SwayM posted...
Couldn't agree more with this.

I truly think it's mostly just pretentious BS.

To me a lot of the Japanese VAs voices don't sound like they fit the characters unless the characters are obviously Asian and even then sometimes not. Which is why I prefer dub.

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SwayM
09/09/24 10:46:30 AM
#70:


Sufferedphoenix posted...
To me a lot of the Japanese VAs voices don't sound like they fit the characters unless the characters are obviously Asian and even then sometimes not. Which is why I prefer dub.


I feel like most Japanese VA's sound the same to me, have the same inflection and cadence.

It's like there's one Japanese Troy Baker out there doing the voices for everything.

But that's likely because I don't speak the language. Which I think more people need to check themselves on when they're watching something with subs and saying how much better the VA work is.

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Sufferedphoenix
09/09/24 10:49:21 AM
#71:


SwayM posted...
I feel like most Japanese VA's sound the same to me, have the same inflection and cadence.

It's like there's one Japanese Troy Baker out there doing the voices for everything.

But that's likely because I don't speak the language. Which I think more people need to check themselves on when they're watching something with subs and saying how much better the VA work is.

I feel there is two. High pitched and excited sounding and deep and serious sounding.

You did remind me of a funny thing I saw once. Troy baker giving advice for how to get into voice acting. He said something like get a good microphone....then wait for me to die.

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Dungeater
09/09/24 11:23:54 AM
#72:


thats interesting - i dont watch a lot of anime, but thanks the the yakuza franchise, sekiro, and persona 4 & 5, im able to pick out a lot of japanese voice actors now

i dont strictly adhere to subs over dubs, i just think the overwhelming majority of dubs ive heard sound more noticeably fake to me (and not in the dramatic soap opera-y way)

also way too few voices in english dubbing

my husband says i have autistic ears to be able to hear this shit, cuz like ill hear a character grunt for a quarter second and be like oh thats Genichiro and he'll look it up and be like bruh

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ironman2009
09/09/24 11:25:09 AM
#73:


Levi Ackerman is overrated.

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Southernfatman
09/09/24 11:31:13 AM
#74:


My anime history is extremely limited, but I have a couple.

-Dragon Ball > Z

-Out of all the Gundam shows I've seen, the original is still the best despite its datedness. There's a reason why a lot of the other series copy aspects from it. Zeta Gundam, the one that's probably most beloved, is still good, but needed some editing down and changes.

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Voidgolem
09/09/24 12:03:07 PM
#75:


the modern weird gooner/ragebaiter/grifter counterculture that's developed around anime (and games) is bad.

but in terms of like anime-specific takes I'm fairly tired of arcs that could be resolved by a 2 minute conversation (1 minute if the people involved aren't social anxiety disasters). It's never been a good plot arc to have, why do they keep doing it for slice of life/romance shows

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LeCh0nk
09/09/24 12:07:20 PM
#76:


Although a lot of people like one piece, the art style turns me off to the point I don't want to sit down and watch/read it.

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masterpug53
09/09/24 12:11:50 PM
#77:


K181 posted...
Tournament arcs are lazy and serve as crutches for poor writing and plot planning.

I'm now remembering that I lost interest in One Punch Man around the middle of its own tournament arc :/

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FL81
09/09/24 12:19:14 PM
#78:


School Days is a 10/10 show

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dancing_cactuar
09/09/24 1:04:11 PM
#80:


The One Piece anime is pure dogshit and One Piece fans need to stop recommending the show when it's nowhere near where the manga is right now yet nearly has as many episodes as the manga has chapters.

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TMOG
09/09/24 1:07:18 PM
#81:


Baron_Ox posted...
not about the anime, but I ended up dropping Jojo Lands, or whatever it's called (part 9).
Yeah, Jojolands has been kind of underwhelming so far. I also really dislike how they keep misgendering Dragona even though she's incredibly clearly a trans woman. I don't know if it's written that way in the source material or if it's the work of the fan translation group, but either way it's not right.
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Dungeater
09/09/24 1:08:41 PM
#82:


TMOG posted...
Yeah, Jojolands has been kind of underwhelming so far. I also really dislike how they keep misgendering Dragona even though she's incredibly clearly a trans woman. I don't know if it's written that way in the source material or if it's the work of the fan translation group, but either way it's not right.
if thats jodios brother, he's an HRT femboy (like me!)

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Guide
09/09/24 1:17:31 PM
#83:


TMOG posted...
Yeah, Jojolands has been kind of underwhelming so far. I also really dislike how they keep misgendering Dragona even though she's incredibly clearly a trans woman. I don't know if it's written that way in the source material or if it's the work of the fan translation group, but either way it's not right.

IIRC they established way early on that he still goes by he, but also it doesn't bother him to be addressed otherwise.

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Prismsblade
09/09/24 1:23:33 PM
#84:


The Jojo series fell off after steel ball run. Also Stone oceans ending was terrible, unnecessary and done purely for shock value.


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InTheEyesOfFire
09/09/24 1:26:16 PM
#85:


vigorm0rtis posted...
Shonen is the lowest form of art put to screen.


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Dungeater
09/09/24 1:30:23 PM
#86:


TMOG why did you think Dragona is a girl to the point you were insulted to read otherwise?

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Charged151
09/09/24 1:32:42 PM
#87:


Calwings posted...
Sailor Moon was good for its time, but has aged poorly and is coasting on nostalgia at this point with its recent installments. Almost everything that Sailor Moon did well, the Pretty Cure franchise has done much better since, in some cases multiple times over.
I recently watched Sailor Moon Crystal + the two 2-part movies. Thought I liked it better than the original anime without the monster of the week filler. Plus, Crystal actually adheres more closely to the Manga, while the Anime barely followed it at all and omitted key information, including...
-Omitting the Four Heavenly Kings/Shitennou being Endymion's guards originally.
-Omitting the Amazoness Quartet were meant to be the Sailor Quartet, the guardians of Chibiusa
-The fifth final arc never being localized in the original anime's run.

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TMOG
09/09/24 1:49:26 PM
#88:


Dungeater posted...
TMOG why did you think Dragona is a girl to the point you were insulted to read otherwise?
Only because she presents as feminine, takes HRT to grow breasts, and uses female pronouns to refer to herself.

Should I wait until she holds up a neon sign that says "I AM A TRANS WOMAN" and shouts it at everybody in every conversation, or am I allowed to take the character's own actions as evidence?
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Dungeater
09/09/24 1:51:08 PM
#89:


TMOG posted...
Only because she presents as feminine, takes HRT to grow breasts, and uses female pronouns to refer to herself.

Should I wait until she holds up a neon sign that says "I AM A TRANS WOMAN" and shouts it at everybody in every conversation, or am I allowed to take the character's own actions as evidence?
he goes by he and jodio refers to him as his brother

i do everything he does. i do makeup, wear womens clothes, push up my breasts, style my hair, inject estrogen

we exist

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TMOG
09/09/24 1:56:55 PM
#90:


Dungeater posted...
he goes by he
https://jojowiki.com/Dragona_Joestar
Dragona likes girly fashion, dresses in feminine outfits, and uses the Japanese first-person pronoun "atashi" (), which is primarily used by women.

I'm not trying to invalidate anybody else's gender identity, but Dragona absolutely uses female pronouns in the source material. (I looked this up after I made my initial post where I stated I wasn't sure if it was the case)

I also remember a flashback chapter where Dragona is referred to by a different name, implying that she has changed it since then (unless it was a nickname and that fact got lost in translation)

Also located in the article, towards the bottom:

The editorial manager of the French publisher for The JOJOlands, Pascal Lafine, explicitly says Dragona is a trans woman.

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Dungeater
09/09/24 2:00:06 PM
#91:


the protective animosity with which jodio calls him his brother contextually indicates to me that his identity seems to be boy

"atashi" is often used by queer japanese men

i think the evidence overwhelmingly points to one thing, but i acknowledge the slight possibility that he is a trans woman. but i dont think its anywhere near actually the case

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DnDer
09/09/24 2:02:22 PM
#92:


One Piece is a bullshit bait and switch that promises pirate adventures and turns out to be every other boring-ass battle shonen with a different coat of paint.

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TMOG
09/09/24 2:03:42 PM
#93:


Dungeater posted...
"atashi" is often used by queer japanese men
I wasn't aware of this, thanks for the info

Dungeater posted...
i think the evidence overwhelmingly points to one thing, but i acknowledge the slight possibility that he is a trans woman. but i dont think its anywhere near actually the case
I'm willing to also acknowledge the possibility that Dragona isn't indeed a trans woman. At this point with the info you've given me I can see it going in either direction, so until the series itself gives harder evidence I'll start using they/them instead. You've been an eye opener for me and I thank you for it :)
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Dungeater
09/09/24 2:04:43 PM
#94:


TMOG posted...
I wasn't aware of this, thanks for the info

I'm willing to also acknowledge the possibility that Dragona isn't indeed a trans woman. At this point with the info you've given me I can see it going in either direction, so until the series itself gives harder evidence I'll start using they/them instead. You've been an eye opener for me and I thank you for it :)
i appreciate the discourse, and next time i wont be hasty to declare characters definitively one thing or the other

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TMOG
09/09/24 2:08:11 PM
#95:


Dungeater posted...
i appreciate the discourse, and next time i wont be hasty to declare characters definitively one thing or the other
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/858a2813.jpg

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DnDer
09/09/24 2:09:42 PM
#96:


SaikyoStyle posted...
Satoshi Kon didnt get the recognition he deserved.

Why would gospel truth be considered your hot take?

Supersonic_Pain posted...
Speaking of which, while the rest of the show is solid, Welcome to the NHK goes about suicide horribly

I never hear anyone else mention this show.

You're right, though. That was... yeah...


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Dungeater
09/09/24 2:12:44 PM
#97:


TMOG posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/858a2813.jpg

in this image we are both clearly from Phantom Blood
chad

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MacadamianNut3
09/09/24 2:14:36 PM
#98:


tankboy posted...
Mobile Suit Gundam: The 08th MS Team is the best Gundam.
It's been too long since I've watched that show and I forgot anything that happened in it, but I remember that also being my opinion back in the 00s

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DnDer
09/09/24 2:21:58 PM
#99:


Sufferedphoenix posted...
I don't get the appeal of slice or life anime.

As a concept I can see why some people would like it but the few I've seen it's like the execution was always very lacking and there was just this vibe I can only describe as empty.

Closest I've enjoyed is gravitation but that's more a romance with some comedy anime and even it suffered a tad from the empty feeling. Had I need read most of the manga series I probably would have walked away from it too.

Idk my brain is wired weird if there isn't a active conflict that requires fighting I'm generally not interested and this spreads across most media tv movies games etc. it's weird cause I'm borderline pacifist

I don't know if Princess Jellyfish officially counts as "slice of life," but I think it is, and it's a good watch. Short, but I don't remember it feeling abrupt or cut off.


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LeCh0nk
09/09/24 2:24:39 PM
#100:


I don't like it when they give characters disproportionately large boobs.

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Baron_Ox
09/09/24 2:26:35 PM
#101:


not about anime again, but I'm no longer a fan of the manga format; especially when I bunch of stuff is going on.

webtoons/line comics are a lot better, IMO.

tbf, though, I mostly read from my phone.

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