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Zora_Prince 08/24/25 8:06:07 PM #1:	As someone who has read only one of the Star Wars novels (novelization of TPM) and is unfamiliar with the universe of the EU and is looking at this as an outsiderI think it was unreasonable that this was going to ever be the direction the movies went. While the books were popular, they were still fairly niche compared to the movies and from what Ive been told, a lot of incredibly dumb and ridiculous things happen in the EU that makes the worst parts of the prequels and sequels seem downright quaint. Im sure there were good stories, but a lot of junk as well. I have my issues with the sequels (mainly The Rise of Skywalker, which soured the whole thing for me) but not following the books wasnt one of them. --- Enjoy those old Choose-Your-Adventure Novels and Writing? Join Extend-a-Story! http://www.sir-toby.com/extend-a-story/story-1/code/read.php <cite>Zora_Prince posted [p:986197268] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>As someone who has read only one of the Star Wars novels (novelization of TPM) and is unfamiliar with the universe of the EU and is looking at this as an outsiderI think it was unreasonable that this was going to ever be the direction the movies went. While the books were popular, they were still fairly niche compared to the movies and from what Ive been told, a lot of incredibly dumb and ridiculous things happen in the EU that makes the worst parts of the prequels and sequels seem downright quaint. Im sure there were good stories, but a lot of junk as well.I have my issues with the sequels (mainly The Rise of Skywalker, which soured the whole thing for me) but not following the books wasnt one of them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 08/24/25 8:09:32 PM #2:	Depends on the EU. Like, Thrawn deserves his spot, but the entire Yuuzhan Vong plotline (and basically everything afterward involving the Solo kids) can be safely ignored. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:986197297] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>Depends on the EU.Like, Thrawn deserves his spot, but the entire Yuuzhan Vong plotline (and basically everything afterward involving the Solo kids) can be safely ignored.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
suchiuomizu 08/24/25 8:10:06 PM #3:	I enjoyed the Legends/EU stuff I read, though only a small fraction of the vast content they made. Anyone who thought movies would be made as direct adaptions of them, by either Lucas or Disney, would have been insane though. --- WTF DUH I DUH <cite>suchiuomizu posted [p:986197300] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>I enjoyed the Legends/EU stuff I read, though only a small fraction of the vast content they made. Anyone who thought movies would be made as direct adaptions of them, by either Lucas or Disney, would have been insane though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 08/24/25 8:12:03 PM #4:	i wouldn't mind it as much if they didn't then make three movies post RotJ with some of the most generic poorly written characters and plot imaginable. --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:986197315] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>i wouldn't mind it as much if they didn't then make three movies post RotJ with some of the most generic poorly written characters and plot imaginable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 08/24/25 8:12:38 PM #5:	They could have adapted the good stuff and left out the dumb stuff I don't agree with ~~turning Han and Leia's 2 sons and 1 daughter into 1 child though~~ <cite>Zikten posted [p:986197318] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>They could have adapted the good stuff and left out the dumb stuffI don't agree with turning Han and Leia's 2 sons and 1 daughter into 1 child though </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 08/24/25 8:13:56 PM #6:	Zikten posted... I don't agree with ~~turning Han and Leia's 2 sons and 1 daughter into 1 child though~~ Technically ~~they turned the entire next generation of Skywalkers into one child, you forgot about Ben.~~ --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:986197330] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite><quote>I don't agree with turning Han and Leia's 2 sons and 1 daughter into 1 child though</quote>Technically they turned the entire next generation of Skywalkers into one child, you forgot about Ben.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hospy 08/24/25 8:16:51 PM #7:	I think they're being pretty unreasonable and their anger stems entirely from nostalgia. Also they're me. <cite>Hospy posted [p:986197346] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>I think they're being pretty unreasonable and their anger stems entirely from nostalgia.Also they're me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Murphiroth 08/24/25 8:19:39 PM #8:	I'm a big EU fan but I'm glad they didn't touch it tbqh. <cite>Murphiroth posted [p:986197371] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>I'm a big EU fan but I'm glad they didn't touch it tbqh. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sariana21 08/24/25 8:21:39 PM #9:	DrizztLink posted... Depends on the EU. Like, Thrawn deserves his spot, but the entire Yuuzhan Vong plotline (and basically everything afterward involving the Solo kids) can be safely ignored. I liked Thrawn in Rebels, not so much in Ahsoka. But theres still time to save his character and restore him to his glory. Maybe. --- ___ Sari, Mom to DS (07/04) and DD (01/08); Pronouns: she/her/hers <cite>Sariana21 posted [p:986197388] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>DrizztLink posted... </cite><quote>Depends on the EU.Like, Thrawn deserves his spot, but the entire Yuuzhan Vong plotline (and basically everything afterward involving the Solo kids) can be safely ignored.</quote>I liked Thrawn in Rebels, not so much in Ahsoka. But theres still time to save his character and restore him to his glory. Maybe. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
__aCEr__ 08/24/25 8:24:10 PM #10:	Han and Leia really should have had twins. That just felt canonical simply because it had been a thing for so long. --- See you next Wednesday. <cite>__aCEr__ posted [p:986197407] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>Han and Leia really should have had twins. That just felt canonical simply because it had been a thing for so long.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zora_Prince 08/24/25 8:38:52 PM #11:	monkmith posted... i wouldn't mind it as much if they didn't then make three movies post RotJ with some of the most generic poorly written characters and plot imaginable. I was fine with TFA and the TLA, in spite of their flaws. If theyd stuck the landing, I would have been fine with it, even if it were imperfect. Instead, I despise every decision the Rise of Skywalker made and what makes it worse is that every dumb decision felt self-inflicted. --- Enjoy those old Choose-Your-Adventure Novels and Writing? Join Extend-a-Story! http://www.sir-toby.com/extend-a-story/story-1/code/read.php <cite>Zora_Prince posted [p:986197524] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>monkmith posted... </cite><quote>i wouldn't mind it as much if they didn't then make three movies post RotJ with some of the most generic poorly written characters and plot imaginable.</quote>I was fine with TFA and the TLA, in spite of their flaws. If theyd stuck the landing, I would have been fine with it, even if it were imperfect. Instead, I despise every decision the Rise of Skywalker made and what makes it worse is that every dumb decision felt self-inflicted.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Charged151 08/24/25 8:50:50 PM #12:	Canon has been adapting a fair amount of Legends stuff, so in a way, that has dampened some of the bite of Disney decanonising a bunch of stuff...even though Lucas was fine having tiers of canon and only decanoning stuff when it got in the way of his ideas, which was the superior approach. There was no reason to get rid of material like KOTOR and the Tales of the Jedi material that preceeded it. And yeah, the new Canon has put out some really good stuff. Rebels, Rogue One, Mandalorian S1 & S2, Andor, High Republic novels, etc. If we can get a great Trilogy (or even a few good movies), I'd say things are back on track. Granted, the damage done by the sequels is still present (OG cast is gone and not many care about the new cast) and is the giant self-inflicted wound that still haunts Disney Star Wars (TLJ in particular felt like the base-breaking star in particular, thanks Johnson for putting out an absolutely terrible, controversial movie). A pity Disney had no plan for anything regarding them, no decision on basic facts (who will the final villain be and what is the new girl's parentage?), and wanted a different director for each to boot. After two movies of no real buildup of anything, no wonder Episode 9 pulled a "now Palpatine is back". DrizztLink posted... entire Yuuzhan Vong plotline I'd love to see them as villains in a new Trilogy. Would be a good way to not have the Sith or Sith adjacent be the antagonists for a change. --- I'm...the...master...of...ellipses... <cite>Charged151 posted [p:986197618] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>Canon has been adapting a fair amount of Legends stuff, so in a way, that has dampened some of the bite of Disney decanonising a bunch of stuff...even though Lucas was fine having tiers of canon and only decanoning stuff when it got in the way of his ideas, which was the superior approach. There was no reason to get rid of material like KOTOR and the Tales of the Jedi material that preceeded it.And yeah, the new Canon has put out some really good stuff. Rebels, Rogue One, Mandalorian S1 & S2, Andor, High Republic novels, etc. If we can get a great Trilogy (or even a few good movies), I'd say things are back on track.Granted, the damage done by the sequels is still present (OG cast is gone and not many care about the new cast) and is the giant self-inflicted wound that still haunts Disney Star Wars (TLJ in particular felt like the base-breaking star in particular, thanks Johnson for putting out an absolutely terrible, controversial movie). A pity Disney had no plan for anything regarding them, no decision on basic facts (who will the final villain be and what is the new girl's parentage?), and wanted a different director for each to boot. After two movies of no real buildup of anything, no wonder Episode 9 pulled a "now Palpatine is back".DrizztLink posted... </cite><quote>entire Yuuzhan Vong plotline</quote>I'd love to see them as villains in a new Trilogy. Would be a good way to not have the Sith or Sith adjacent be the antagonists for a change.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vyrulisse 08/24/25 8:51:47 PM #13:	I used to think they were right but seeing how Disney has treated Star Wars now I'm glad it wasn't really touched. --- http://i.imgur.com/6VeX04D.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab_oUdEm-6s <cite>Vyrulisse posted [p:986197626] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>I used to think they were right but seeing how Disney has treated Star Wars now I'm glad it wasn't really touched. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wedge_Antilles 08/24/25 8:52:11 PM #14:	I was fine with it if the movies were good. Sadly they ranged from meh to garbage. --- I used the knife. I saved a child. I won a war. God forgive me. <cite>Wedge_Antilles posted [p:986197630] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>I was fine with it if the movies were good. Sadly they ranged from meh to garbage.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 08/24/25 8:55:28 PM #15:	It was never going to be adapted. The EU was always canon* With the asterisk meaning, but can be contradicted by movies and TV shows at any time. All Disney did was make them officially non canon. --- "So this is how liberty dies, with Thunderous applause." Padme Amidala <cite>creativerealms posted [p:986197666] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>It was never going to be adapted. The EU was always canon*With the asterisk meaning, but can be contradicted by movies and TV shows at any time. All Disney did was make them officially non canon.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
K181 08/24/25 8:57:38 PM #16:	Dumb complaint. The lions share was awful, the few gems like Thrawn were just the working digit on an otherwise gangrenous arm. Cutting that out and allowing themselves to piece individual parts of their choosing back in was the right choice. Lucas was already massively ignoring the EU as it was, so Disney just made it definitive. Thrawn starting out as a basic bitch childrens show villain was odd, though. --- Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. https://youtu.be/lMss1CeHOiM <cite>K181 posted [p:986197684] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>Dumb complaint. The lions share was awful, the few gems like Thrawn were just the working digit on an otherwise gangrenous arm. Cutting that out and allowing themselves to piece individual parts of their choosing back in was the right choice. Lucas was already massively ignoring the EU as it was, so Disney just made it definitive.Thrawn starting out as a basic bitch childrens show villain was odd, though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HBOSS 08/24/25 9:00:05 PM #17:	Star Wars Legends stuff always a treat. I guess for me its the sequel trilogy was worst than the prequel trilogy was worse than the Original Trilogy. Like the more star wars movies after the original trilogy left more to be desired. it wasnt the best but hey, its star wars! Star Wars legends stuff was filler for new starwars content. Felt the popular legends details couldve been adapted and still would be critiqued for being star wars. Any starwars is better than none tho. Disney played it safe and it feels like they will still be compared to legends adaptations then, now, & forever. The sequel trilogy chapters are done. The good news is that most fans are ready to move on with rey or without her character for more star wars. so what if 20 years from now disney does the Sequel Trilogy Special Editions. The Force Awakens Special Edition with small edited scenes and small additions to include [future characters and places]. The Last Jedi Special Edition, Rise of Skywalker Special Edition would changes to these movies to reflect whatever star wars becomes later. Same movie with new details. Like what if we got a starwars story before the force awakens akin to rogue one. Like even with how the sequel trilogy turned out, theres plenty of stories between return of the jedi and the force awakens. Ashoka kinda took us with a glimpse of that. Maybe its the the time period where Ashoka ends. Hmm... --- You don't stop playing because you grow old, You grow old because you stop playing <cite>HBOSS posted [p:986197706] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>Star Wars Legends stuff always a treat.I guess for me its the sequel trilogy was worst than the prequel trilogy was worse than the Original Trilogy. Like the more star wars movies after the original trilogy left more to be desired. it wasnt the best but hey, its star wars!Star Wars legends stuff was filler for new starwars content. Felt the popular legends details couldve been adapted and still would be critiqued for being star wars. Any starwars is better than none tho. Disney played it safe and it feels like they will still be compared to legends adaptations then, now, & forever.The sequel trilogy chapters are done. The good news is that most fans are ready to move on with rey or without her character for more star wars. so what if 20 years from now disney does the Sequel Trilogy Special Editions. The Force Awakens Special Edition with small edited scenes and small additions to include [future characters and places]. The Last Jedi Special Edition, Rise of Skywalker Special Edition would changes to these movies to reflect whatever star wars becomes later. Same movie with new details. Like what if we got a starwars story before the force awakens akin to rogue one. Like even with how the sequel trilogy turned out, theres plenty of stories between return of the jedi and the force awakens. Ashoka kinda took us with a glimpse of that. Maybe its the the time period where Ashoka ends. Hmm...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Charged151 08/24/25 9:03:22 PM #18:	K181 posted... Thrawn starting out as a basic bitch childrens show villain was odd, though. I didn't mind him in Rebels. He was a threatening presence starting in Season 3 after Ahsoka was no longer around to help the rebellion. It felt like he had the Ghost crew dead to right a few times, but kept being screwed over by his incompetent subordinates. Just wondering how his character arc will be handled in Canon. As of now, he is on Dathomir. I imagine he will do a ton of damage to the New Republic considering how incompetent and not-prepared (large chunks of it removed their fleets) the whole organization is. This is different in Legends where the New Republic ended up fighting Imperial remnants for 10-15 years post-Endor... --- I'm...the...master...of...ellipses... <cite>Charged151 posted [p:986197738] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>K181 posted... </cite><quote>Thrawn starting out as a basic bitch childrens show villain was odd, though.</quote>I didn't mind him in Rebels. He was a threatening presence starting in Season 3 after Ahsoka was no longer around to help the rebellion. It felt like he had the Ghost crew dead to right a few times, but kept being screwed over by his incompetent subordinates.Just wondering how his character arc will be handled in Canon. As of now, he is on Dathomir. I imagine he will do a ton of damage to the New Republic considering how incompetent and not-prepared (large chunks of it removed their fleets) the whole organization is. This is different in Legends where the New Republic ended up fighting Imperial remnants for 10-15 years post-Endor...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vigorm0rtis 08/24/25 9:04:26 PM #19:	I don't fucking care. I haven't cared about Star Wars in 20 years. <cite>vigorm0rtis posted [p:986197748] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>I don't fucking care. I haven't cared about Star Wars in 20 years. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SonicZack 08/24/25 9:08:20 PM #20:	I am an outlier among Star Wars fans. I have enjoyed all of the movies and the TV shows while having read a lot of content from both Legends and Canon. I see them as separate timelines and that there should be content still released for both. While both have their toxic fans, both would want more content. --- [This Signature Intentionally Left Blank] <cite>SonicZack posted [p:986197786] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>I am an outlier among Star Wars fans. I have enjoyed all of the movies and the TV shows while having read a lot of content from both Legends and Canon. I see them as separate timelines and that there should be content still released for both. While both have their toxic fans, both would want more content.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Charged151 08/24/25 9:09:12 PM #21:	HBOSS posted... Like what if we got a starwars story before the force awakens akin to rogue one. Like even with how the sequel trilogy turned out, theres plenty of stories between return of the jedi and the force awakens. Ashoka kinda took us with a glimpse of that. Maybe its the the time period where Ashoka ends. Hmm... As you mentioned, the live action shows have been trying to fill in the gap. All the talk of Project Necromancer is honestly getting a bit old. And yeah, the Sequel Trilogy did absolutely nothing that set the stage correctly. For instance, why is there a "rebellion" fighting the First Order when the New Republic is still around? Where are all the "Order 66 survivors" Jedi that are definitely still around (like Legends, Canon keeps adding to the number year by year) that should be fighting against The First Order? The setting felt really sterile and didn't provide answers to even basic questions. --- I'm...the...master...of...ellipses... <cite>Charged151 posted [p:986197793] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>HBOSS posted... </cite><quote>Like what if we got a starwars story before the force awakens akin to rogue one. Like even with how the sequel trilogy turned out, theres plenty of stories between return of the jedi and the force awakens. Ashoka kinda took us with a glimpse of that. Maybe its the the time period where Ashoka ends. Hmm...</quote>As you mentioned, the live action shows have been trying to fill in the gap. All the talk of Project Necromancer is honestly getting a bit old.And yeah, the Sequel Trilogy did absolutely nothing that set the stage correctly. For instance, why is there a "rebellion" fighting the First Order when the New Republic is still around? Where are all the "Order 66 survivors" Jedi that are definitely still around (like Legends, Canon keeps adding to the number year by year) that should be fighting against The First Order? The setting felt really sterile and didn't provide answers to even basic questions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sariana21 08/24/25 11:46:37 PM #22:	Charged151 posted... I didn't mind him in Rebels. He was a threatening presence starting in Season 3 after Ahsoka was no longer around to help the rebellion. It felt like he had the Ghost crew dead to right a few times, but kept being screwed over by his incompetent subordinates. Well, yes, sometimes. But I think he also had a grudging respect for the Ghost crew and was studying them. I thought Andor might be hinting at Thrawn with the episode in the art exhibit (~~when Kleya had to remove the bug~~). Even though nothing came of it in that series, the string is still there to be pulled. --- ___ Sari, Mom to DS (07/04) and DD (01/08); Pronouns: she/her/hers <cite>Sariana21 posted [p:986198895] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>Charged151 posted... </cite><quote>I didn't mind him in Rebels. He was a threatening presence starting in Season 3 after Ahsoka was no longer around to help the rebellion. It felt like he had the Ghost crew dead to right a few times, but kept being screwed over by his incompetent subordinates.</quote>Well, yes, sometimes. But I think he also had a grudging respect for the Ghost crew and was studying them. I thought Andor might be hinting at Thrawn with the episode in the art exhibit (when Kleya had to remove the bug). Even though nothing came of it in that series, the string is still there to be pulled. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ar0ge 08/25/25 12:04:34 AM #23:	Hospy posted... they're me. <cite>Ar0ge posted [p:986198994] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>Hospy posted... </cite><quote>they're me.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Verdekal 08/25/25 12:25:04 AM #24:	I miss the Old Republic stuff and hope it comes back. --- Don't tease the octopus, kids! <cite>Verdekal posted [p:986199106] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>I miss the Old Republic stuff and hope it comes back.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PraetorXyn 08/25/25 12:30:31 AM #25:	Theyre justified. Of course people are going to be pissed if what you put out sucks and there are great pre-existing stories you just had to adapt. But not all the EU is good. Id say its unanimous that the best parts of the EU are infinitely better than any Disney Star Wars, the one exception being Andor. --- https://store.steampowered.com/wishlist/profiles/76561198052113750 <cite>PraetorXyn posted [p:986199143] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>Theyre justified.Of course people are going to be pissed if what you put out sucks and there are great pre-existing stories you just had to adapt.But not all the EU is good. Id say its unanimous that the best parts of the EU are infinitely better than any Disney Star Wars, the one exception being Andor.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
specialkid8 08/25/25 7:11:49 AM #26:	It seems to me like it never comes from a place of actually wanting to see these stories adapted. It's pure spite for Disney "getting rid of" the stuff they like because they refuse to accept that the EU was never canon. --- https://i.imgur.com/AUXKMK4.jpg <cite>specialkid8 posted [p:986200573] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>It seems to me like it never comes from a place of actually wanting to see these stories adapted. It's pure spite for Disney "getting rid of" the stuff they like because they refuse to accept that the EU was never canon.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
M1Astray 08/25/25 7:20:05 AM #27:	Frankly as a EU fan I'm glad they never actually adapted any of it (besides pilfering their bootleg "We have Thrawn at Home" version of the Grand Admiral and setting up what looks like a super awful version of the Thrawn trilogy replacing the ~~clone army~~ with ~~literal zombies~~). It makes it much easier to mentally compartmentalize the pre and post purchase eras so I can enjoy what I love about the franchise without getting bogged down with the sludge Disney's produced using the IP. But as for the topic question specifically I always look at those people and wonder to myself "why are you upset though? You know it's just going to be crap, just let it rest and enjoy the old stuff for what it was." --- Currently Playing: Xenoblade X Definitive Edition (Switch), Fate/stay night Remastered (Switch), Arknights (Android) <cite>M1Astray posted [p:986200622] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>Frankly as a EU fan I'm glad they never actually adapted any of it (besides pilfering their bootleg "We have Thrawn at Home" version of the Grand Admiral and setting up what looks like a super awful version of the Thrawn trilogy replacing the clone army with literal zombies). It makes it much easier to mentally compartmentalize the pre and post purchase eras so I can enjoy what I love about the franchise without getting bogged down with the sludge Disney's produced using the IP. But as for the topic question specifically I always look at those people and wonder to myself "why are you upset though? You know it's just going to be crap, just let it rest and enjoy the old stuff for what it was." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rexcrk 08/25/25 7:22:48 AM #28:	I feel like Im one of the few people who grew up during the era when that really kicked off who saw it for what it really is: glorified fanfiction. Thats not to say that there arent good stories, but I really wish people didnt take it as gospel. I blame those goofy dorks for at least part of the reason I have to see every new Star Wars project get unnecessarily scrutinized. Going in with this attitude of well Im upset about something that was never canon not being canon so now Im just gonna dislike whatever comes out and ruin it for everyone --- Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds, along with the good, and let me be judged accordingly. The rest.. is silence. <cite>rexcrk posted [p:986200642] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>I feel like Im one of the few people who grew up during the era when that really kicked off who saw it for what it really is: glorified fanfiction. Thats not to say that there arent good stories, but I really wish people didnt take it as gospel. I blame those goofy dorks for at least part of the reason I have to see every new Star Wars project get unnecessarily scrutinized. Going in with this attitude of well Im upset about something that was never canon not being canon so now Im just gonna dislike whatever comes out and ruin it for everyone</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 08/25/25 8:13:46 AM #29:	It should be expected that it won't be adapted outside a few things. Some unrealistic expectations there. There's only a few bright spots in the old EU. Most of it was meh and forgettable to me. I never cared for the Vong and that's where I stopped. They come off as something a 14 year old would come up with because they're "so badazzz bro". The Thrawn stuff never enchanted me either. --- Fix your hearts or die. When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:986200892] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>It should be expected that it won't be adapted outside a few things. Some unrealistic expectations there.There's only a few bright spots in the old EU. Most of it was meh and forgettable to me. I never cared for the Vong and that's where I stopped. They come off as something a 14 year old would come up with because they're "so badazzz bro".The Thrawn stuff never enchanted me either. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Starks 08/25/25 8:16:31 AM #30:	I didn't experience the EU much past Teras Kasi or Rebel Strike. Never got into Thrawn but at least that was salvaged. It's not like people forgot about Mara Jade or the kids. It just wasn't workable. --- Paid for by StarksPAC, a registered 501(c)(4) <cite>Starks posted [p:986200904] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>I didn't experience the EU much past Teras Kasi or Rebel Strike.Never got into Thrawn but at least that was salvaged.It's not like people forgot about Mara Jade or the kids. It just wasn't workable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaikyoStyle 08/25/25 8:21:51 AM #31:	I wish theyd used Rogue One as a means of starting a Kyle Katarn series. --- Taxes, death, and trouble. Vetinari 2028. Make Ankh-Morpork Great Again! <cite>SaikyoStyle posted [p:986200929] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>I wish theyd used Rogue One as a means of starting a Kyle Katarn series.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfDevsman 08/25/25 8:33:44 AM #32:	I never read any of it, so I can't really comment on how fit for adaptation any of it was. But I do feel like I have to comment that there's way too much of it. Like, I legit think it's one of those things like the music industry where you literally can't listen to it all because it's longer than a human lifespan. I saw a figure which is now many years old estimating the EU at 129 million words, which is like reading the Bible more than 170 times. Naturally, that would be quite the hurdle. --- Arguing on CE be all like: https://youtu.be/JpRKrs67lOs?si=kPGA2RCKVHTdbVrJ <cite>ReturnOfDevsman posted [p:986200996] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>I never read any of it, so I can't really comment on how fit for adaptation any of it was.But I do feel like I have to comment that there's way too much of it. Like, I legit think it's one of those things like the music industry where you literally can't listen to it all because it's longer than a human lifespan. I saw a figure which is now many years old estimating the EU at 129 million words, which is like reading the Bible more than 170 times.Naturally, that would be quite the hurdle.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zora_Prince 08/25/25 10:11:55 AM #33:	rexcrk posted... I feel like Im one of the few people who grew up during the era when that really kicked off who saw it for what it really is: glorified fanfiction. Thats not to say that there arent good stories, but I really wish people didnt take it as gospel. I blame those goofy dorks for at least part of the reason I have to see every new Star Wars project get unnecessarily scrutinized. Going in with this attitude of well Im upset about something that was never canon not being canon so now Im just gonna dislike whatever comes out and ruin it for everyone Yeah. Not to say that there arent legit criticisms of the sequel trilogy. But goddamn, there were a lot of bad takes. When it comes to blame for the trilogy ending on such a sour note, Id give a majority to Disney, but still a non-trivial portion to the worst of the fanbase. --- Enjoy those old Choose-Your-Adventure Novels and Writing? Join Extend-a-Story! http://www.sir-toby.com/extend-a-story/story-1/code/read.php <cite>Zora_Prince posted [p:986201676] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>rexcrk posted... </cite><quote>I feel like Im one of the few people who grew up during the era when that really kicked off who saw it for what it really is: glorified fanfiction. Thats not to say that there arent good stories, but I really wish people didnt take it as gospel. I blame those goofy dorks for at least part of the reason I have to see every new Star Wars project get unnecessarily scrutinized. Going in with this attitude of well Im upset about something that was never canon not being canon so now Im just gonna dislike whatever comes out and ruin it for everyone</quote>Yeah. Not to say that there arent legit criticisms of the sequel trilogy. But goddamn, there were a lot of bad takes. When it comes to blame for the trilogy ending on such a sour note, Id give a majority to Disney, but still a non-trivial portion to the worst of the fanbase. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 08/25/25 10:19:01 AM #34:	lucas tossed out the EU when he made the PT so its no different now than it was then the EU was never actually canon if lucas had made the ST he would have ignored the ST hell he would have went out of his way to spite the EU the moment he heard any backlash as he HATES being told what ot do with his films --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:986201734] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>lucas tossed out the EU when he made the PTso its no different now than it was thenthe EU was never actually canonif lucas had made the ST he would have ignored the SThell he would have went out of his way to spite the EU the moment he heard any backlash as he HATES being told what ot do with his films</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HighSeraph 08/25/25 10:21:07 AM #35:	I don't. --- She's like a cat in the dark. She/Her <cite>HighSeraph posted [p:986201754] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>I don't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ExtreFluffyRice 08/25/25 11:01:23 AM #36:	rexcrk posted... I feel like Im one of the few people who grew up during the era when that really kicked off who saw it for what it really is: glorified fanfiction. Thats not to say that there arent good stories, but I really wish people didnt take it as gospel. I blame those goofy dorks for at least part of the reason I have to see every new Star Wars project get unnecessarily scrutinized. Going in with this attitude of well Im upset about something that was never canon not being canon so now Im just gonna dislike whatever comes out and ruin it for everyone Prior to 2014, Lucasfilm explicitly considered the EU to be canon unless they said otherwise, like with the Infinities comics. You could consider it to be glorified fanfiction due to not coming directly from George Lucas, but that would then apply to every book, movie, and streaming show released since the Disney merger. With a little effort, they could definitely have worked within the existing timeline. They didn't have to adapt anything. Set it after the novels and nobody would have to worry about anything major being changed. Allana Solo, Han and Leia's granddaughter, could have been the protagonist. Hell, Daisy Ridley could have played her. Barring that, if they had at least tried to get some things right, I'd feel better about it. Bringing in characters besides Thrawn and a couple others that orbit him (Pellaeon, etc). Have Kylo Ren's given name be Jacen instead of Ben. Throw Mara Jade in there somewhere. Something. But really, I could have been okay with Disney making its alternate timeline and doing different things if they didn't arbitrarily and unceremoniously kill the EU. There's no reason they couldn't have left a few publishing slots per year allocated for EU/Legends books. Or even just had one final trilogy of novels to tie up all the loose ends and make it a completed work. <cite>ExtreFluffyRice posted [p:986202088] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>rexcrk posted... </cite><quote>I feel like Im one of the few people who grew up during the era when that really kicked off who saw it for what it really is: glorified fanfiction. Thats not to say that there arent good stories, but I really wish people didnt take it as gospel. I blame those goofy dorks for at least part of the reason I have to see every new Star Wars project get unnecessarily scrutinized. Going in with this attitude of well Im upset about something that was never canon not being canon so now Im just gonna dislike whatever comes out and ruin it for everyone</quote>Prior to 2014, Lucasfilm explicitly considered the EU to be canon unless they said otherwise, like with the Infinities comics. You could consider it to be glorified fanfiction due to not coming directly from George Lucas, but that would then apply to every book, movie, and streaming show released since the Disney merger.With a little effort, they could definitely have worked within the existing timeline. They didn't have to adapt anything. Set it after the novels and nobody would have to worry about anything major being changed. Allana Solo, Han and Leia's granddaughter, could have been the protagonist. Hell, Daisy Ridley could have played her. Barring that, if they had at least tried to get some things right, I'd feel better about it. Bringing in characters besides Thrawn and a couple others that orbit him (Pellaeon, etc). Have Kylo Ren's given name be Jacen instead of Ben. Throw Mara Jade in there somewhere. Something.But really, I could have been okay with Disney making its alternate timeline and doing different things if they didn't arbitrarily and unceremoniously kill the EU. There's no reason they couldn't have left a few publishing slots per year allocated for EU/Legends books. Or even just had one final trilogy of novels to tie up all the loose ends and make it a completed work.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bfslick50 08/25/25 11:05:55 AM #37:	There'd be less people upset if the sequel trilogy was good. Plan things out instead of having every movie hit the reset button. Disney rushed it. --- "Something's wrong! Murder isn't working and that's all we're good at." ~Futurama <cite>bfslick50 posted [p:986202132] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>There'd be less people upset if the sequel trilogy was good. Plan things out instead of having every movie hit the reset button. Disney rushed it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
garan 08/25/25 3:01:32 PM #38:	PraetorXyn posted... Theyre justified. Of course people are going to be pissed if what you put out sucks and there are great pre-existing stories you just had to adapt. But not all the EU is good. Id say its unanimous that the best parts of the EU are infinitely better than any Disney Star Wars, the one exception being Andor. Agreed with all this. <cite>garan posted [p:986204372] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>PraetorXyn posted...</cite><quote>Theyre justified.Of course people are going to be pissed if what you put out sucks and there are great pre-existing stories you just had to adapt.But not all the EU is good. Id say its unanimous that the best parts of the EU are infinitely better than any Disney Star Wars, the one exception being Andor.</quote>Agreed with all this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
specialkid8 08/25/25 3:02:28 PM #39:	ExtreFluffyRice posted... Prior to 2014, Lucasfilm explicitly considered the EU to be canon They explicitly did not. The Force Unleashed games were, for some reason, the first and only thing outside the movies to be canon and the only thing to be removed by Disney. Lucas's stance has pretty much always been "it's cool that you guys wanna play in my sandbox but if doesn't actually count". ABCD canon is not actually a thing. --- https://i.imgur.com/AUXKMK4.jpg <cite>specialkid8 posted [p:986204384] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>ExtreFluffyRice posted... </cite><quote>Prior to 2014, Lucasfilm explicitly considered the EU to be canon</quote>They explicitly did not. The Force Unleashed games were, for some reason, the first and only thing outside the movies to be canon and the only thing to be removed by Disney. Lucas's stance has pretty much always been "it's cool that you guys wanna play in my sandbox but if doesn't actually count". ABCD canon is not actually a thing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ExtreFluffyRice 08/25/25 5:04:53 PM #40:	specialkid8 posted... They explicitly did not. The Force Unleashed games were, for some reason, the first and only thing outside the movies to be canon and the only thing to be removed by Disney. Lucas's stance has pretty much always been "it's cool that you guys wanna play in my sandbox but if doesn't actually count". ABCD canon is not actually a thing. G-canon, C-canon, etc were a thing, though. The EU wasn't what Lucas had in the back of his mind, and he said so. But the company considered it canon unless an item was specifically stated not to be. Basically it was then what the current Disney canon is now. Here's a number of quotes from Lucasfilm reps discussing how the Expanded Universe was considered canon: Gospel or Canon, as we refer to it, includes the screenplays, the films, the radio dramas and the novelizations. These works spin out of George Lucas' original stories, the rest are created by other writers. However between us, we've read everything and much of it is taken into account in the overall continuity." -Sue Rostoni, Star Wars Insider 23, Fall 1994 "Continuity has been the supreme commandment at Lucasfilm for Shadows and all its Star Wars projects. The company had made the decision to not only expand its universe but have it unfold as a seamless chronicle. Whether a new star system is explored in a novel or a scene is set in ancient Jedi days from a comic series, nothing can contradict the history or logic of what has gone before. To keep it all straight there is 'The Canon', a timeline of major events and lifespan of main characters prepared by the continuity editors of Lucasfilm and considered the in-house bible of the Star Wars universe." -Mark Cotta Vaz, The Secrets of Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire, August 5, 1996 "Everyone in the content-creating galaxy of Star Wars has a copy of 'The Bible,' a burgeoning canonical document (currently a hundred and seventy pages long) that is maintained by 'continuity editors' Allan Kausch and Sue Rostoni. It is a chronology of all the events that have ever occurred in the Star Wars universe, in all the films, books, CD-roms, Nintendo games, comic books, and roleplaying guides, and each medium is seamlessly coordinated with the others." -Tom Dupree, "Why Is the Force Still with Us?", January 6, 1997 "Everything that (is approved) by Lucasfilm is official. No matter how small the contribution, we've added to the well," -Peter Schweighofer, Star Wars Galaxy Collector 1, February 1998 Canon refers to an authoritative list of books that Lucas Licensing editors consider an authentic part of the official Star Wars history. Our goal is to present a continuous and unified history of the Star Wars galaxy, insofar as that history does not conflict with, or undermine the meaning of Mr. Lucass Star Wars saga of films and screenplays. Things that Lucas Licensing does not consider official parts of the continuous Star Wars history show an Infinities logo or are contained in Star Wars Tales. Everything else is considered canon. -Sue Rostoni, Star Wars Gamer 6, September 4, 2001 Basically, everything except those items marked with an 'Infinity' logo (i.e. the Star Wars Tales comics) is considered canon. -Sue Rostoni, StarWars.com, May 30, 2003 'Lucasfilm canon' refers to anything produced by any of the Lucas companies, whether it be movies, books games or internet. -Leland Chee, StarWars.com, May 30, 2003 "When asked if the G- and C-levels formed separate and independent canon, Chee responded by stating that both were part of a single canon: 'There is one overall continuity.'" -Leland Chee, StarWars.com, August 4, 2004 The concept of an expanded universe certainly isnt unique to Star Wars. Many popular genre properties from Star Trek to Alien, release spin-off tales that shed light on events not seen in the official narrative. But Star Wars EU is unique both in its size and its care which is in the narrative which is shepherd and organized and Star Wars the Expanded universe is official. -Daniel Wallace, Star Wars Insider 101, May 6, 2008 <cite>ExtreFluffyRice posted [p:986205630] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>specialkid8 posted... </cite><quote>They explicitly did not. The Force Unleashed games were, for some reason, the first and only thing outside the movies to be canon and the only thing to be removed by Disney. Lucas's stance has pretty much always been "it's cool that you guys wanna play in my sandbox but if doesn't actually count". ABCD canon is not actually a thing.</quote>G-canon, C-canon, etc were a thing, though. The EU wasn't what Lucas had in the back of his mind, and he said so. But the company considered it canon unless an item was specifically stated not to be. Basically it was then what the current Disney canon is now.Here's a number of quotes from Lucasfilm reps discussing how the Expanded Universe was considered canon:Gospel or Canon, as we refer to it, includes the screenplays, the films, the radio dramas and the novelizations. These works spin out of George Lucas' original stories, the rest are created by other writers. However between us, we've read everything and much of it is taken into account in the overall continuity." -Sue Rostoni, Star Wars Insider 23, Fall 1994"Continuity has been the supreme commandment at Lucasfilm for Shadows and all its Star Wars projects. The company had made the decision to not only expand its universe but have it unfold as a seamless chronicle. Whether a new star system is explored in a novel or a scene is set in ancient Jedi days from a comic series, nothing can contradict the history or logic of what has gone before. To keep it all straight there is 'The Canon', a timeline of major events and lifespan of main characters prepared by the continuity editors of Lucasfilm and considered the in-house bible of the Star Wars universe." -Mark Cotta Vaz, The Secrets of Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire, August 5, 1996"Everyone in the content-creating galaxy of Star Wars has a copy of 'The Bible,' a burgeoning canonical document (currently a hundred and seventy pages long) that is maintained by 'continuity editors' Allan Kausch and Sue Rostoni. It is a chronology of all the events that have ever occurred in the Star Wars universe, in all the films, books, CD-roms, Nintendo games, comic books, and roleplaying guides, and each medium is seamlessly coordinated with the others." -Tom Dupree, "Why Is the Force Still with Us?", January 6, 1997"Everything that (is approved) by Lucasfilm is official. No matter how small the contribution, we've added to the well," -Peter Schweighofer, Star Wars Galaxy Collector 1, February 1998Canon refers to an authoritative list of books that Lucas Licensing editors consider an authentic part of the official Star Wars history. Our goal is to present a continuous and unified history of the Star Wars galaxy, insofar as that history does not conflict with, or undermine the meaning of Mr. Lucass Star Wars saga of films and screenplays. Things that Lucas Licensing does not consider official parts of the continuous Star Wars history show an Infinities logo or are contained in Star Wars Tales. Everything else is considered canon. -Sue Rostoni, Star Wars Gamer 6, September 4, 2001Basically, everything except those items marked with an 'Infinity' logo (i.e. the Star Wars Tales comics) is considered canon. -Sue Rostoni, StarWars.com, May 30, 2003'Lucasfilm canon' refers to anything produced by any of the Lucas companies, whether it be movies, books games or internet. -Leland Chee, StarWars.com, May 30, 2003"When asked if the G- and C-levels formed separate and independent canon, Chee responded by stating that both were part of a single canon: 'There is one overall continuity.'" -Leland Chee, StarWars.com, August 4, 2004The concept of an expanded universe certainly isnt unique to Star Wars. Many popular genre properties from Star Trek to Alien, release spin-off tales that shed light on events not seen in the official narrative. But Star Wars EU is unique both in its size and its care which is in the narrative which is shepherd and organized and Star Wars the Expanded universe is official. -Daniel Wallace, Star Wars Insider 101, May 6, 2008</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 08/26/25 12:07:31 AM #41:	again if lucas had made the ST he would have ignored everything in the EU to and the moment fans complained he would have acted out of spite and really made sure they cant be seen as canon as he hates getting told what to do --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:986209042] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>again if lucas had made the ST he would have ignored everything in the EU toand the moment fans complained he would have acted out of spite and really made sure they cant be seen as canon as he hates getting told what to do</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Charged151 08/26/25 1:11:54 AM #42:	AceMos posted... again if lucas had made the ST he would have ignored everything in the EU to The tiers of canon meant he left things alone unless these conflict with his ideas. It isn't like he ever planned to change anything in the past during the time of Darth Bane or further back in time like Tales of the Jedi. Not even that ended up being safe under Disney... AceMos posted... and the moment fans complained he would have acted out of spite and really made sure they cant be seen as canon as he hates getting told what to do He let Mara Jade (who he signed off on by the way) be canon through the EU despite not liking the idea of Luke being married. Again, as long as something doesn't conflict with the story he planned to write, he tended to just leave it alone. Hence the tiers of canon. But yeah, for example, the Clone Wars show, as great as it is, definitely decanonized a lot of author's works, which angered a lot of people (writers including fans), and often did a 180 on characterization (I'm thinking of the Mandalorians in particular). Bare in mind though, what we had before was good and what we got in the show was also good, so it wasn't as acrimonious as say the Sequel Trilogy, which got rid of many great stories and characters for a 100% unplanned mess in particular the latter two movies. --- I'm...the...master...of...ellipses... <cite>Charged151 posted [p:986209448] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>AceMos posted... </cite><quote>again if lucas had made the ST he would have ignored everything in the EU to</quote>The tiers of canon meant he left things alone unless these conflict with his ideas. It isn't like he ever planned to change anything in the past during the time of Darth Bane or further back in time like Tales of the Jedi. Not even that ended up being safe under Disney...AceMos posted... </cite><quote>and the moment fans complained he would have acted out of spite and really made sure they cant be seen as canon as he hates getting told what to do</quote>He let Mara Jade (who he signed off on by the way) be canon through the EU despite not liking the idea of Luke being married. Again, as long as something doesn't conflict with the story he planned to write, he tended to just leave it alone. Hence the tiers of canon.But yeah, for example, the Clone Wars show, as great as it is, definitely decanonized a lot of author's works, which angered a lot of people (writers including fans), and often did a 180 on characterization (I'm thinking of the Mandalorians in particular). Bare in mind though, what we had before was good and what we got in the show was also good, so it wasn't as acrimonious as say the Sequel Trilogy, which got rid of many great stories and characters for a 100% unplanned mess in particular the latter two movies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 08/26/25 1:13:27 AM #43:	Charged151 posted... He let Mara Jade (who he signed off on by the way) be canon through the EU despite not liking the idea of Luke being married. Again, as long as something doesn't conflict with the story he planned to write, he tended to just leave it alone. Hence the tiers of canon. and if he had made the ST he would not have luke married thus mara jade would not be canon --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:986209454] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>Charged151 posted... </cite><quote>He let Mara Jade (who he signed off on by the way) be canon through the EU despite not liking the idea of Luke being married. Again, as long as something doesn't conflict with the story he planned to write, he tended to just leave it alone. Hence the tiers of canon.</quote>and if he had made the ST he would not have luke married thus mara jade would not be canon </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Charged151 08/26/25 1:15:57 AM #44:	AceMos posted... and if he had made the ST he would not have luke married thus mara jade would not be canon And yet the point is she was canon for the whole period that Lucas didn't make a sequel trilogy (which never happened) until Disney Star Wars became a thing, and Lucas didn't suddenly destroy the EU despite the directions it went that sometimes conflicted with his "vision". He wasn't that petty and the tiers of canon left beloved material before the time of the PT safe. --- I'm...the...master...of...ellipses... <cite>Charged151 posted [p:986209467] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>AceMos posted... </cite><quote>and if he had made the ST he would not have luke married thus mara jade would not be canon</quote>And yet the point is she was canon for the whole period that Lucas didn't make a sequel trilogy (which never happened) until Disney Star Wars became a thing, and Lucas didn't suddenly destroy the EU despite the directions it went that sometimes conflicted with his "vision".He wasn't that petty and the tiers of canon left beloved material before the time of the PT safe.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSj4Wingzero 08/26/25 1:32:21 AM #45:	PraetorXyn posted... Theyre justified. Of course people are going to be pissed if what you put out sucks and there are great pre-existing stories you just had to adapt. But not all the EU is good. Id say its unanimous that the best parts of the EU are infinitely better than any Disney Star Wars, the one exception being Andor. Agreed. I haven't read much of the Legends EU but I've played some of the games (i.e. the Jedi Knight games) and I enjoyed a lot of the worldbuilding they created. The fact that Kyle Katarn is not a character in the mainstream canon is just sad. Charged151 posted... Granted, the damage done by the sequels is still present (OG cast is gone and not many care about the new cast) and is the giant self-inflicted wound that still haunts Disney Star Wars (TLJ in particular felt like the base-breaking star in particular, thanks Johnson for putting out an absolutely terrible, controversial movie). A pity Disney had no plan for anything regarding them, no decision on basic facts (who will the final villain be and what is the new girl's parentage?), and wanted a different director for each to boot. After two movies of no real buildup of anything, no wonder Episode 9 pulled a "now Palpatine is back". And a "somehow Palpatine returned in his clone bodies" is basically Dark Empire, isn't it? I haven't read it, but I seem to recall that Dark Empire isn't really a well-liked segment. Star Wars really needed someone like Kevin Feige to keep the movies related and accessible, but...lol --- Not changing this sig until the Knicks win the NBA Championship! Started 4/23/2010! <cite>SSj4Wingzero posted [p:986209561] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>PraetorXyn posted... </cite><quote>Theyre justified.Of course people are going to be pissed if what you put out sucks and there are great pre-existing stories you just had to adapt.But not all the EU is good. Id say its unanimous that the best parts of the EU are infinitely better than any Disney Star Wars, the one exception being Andor.</quote>Agreed. I haven't read much of the Legends EU but I've played some of the games (i.e. the Jedi Knight games) and I enjoyed a lot of the worldbuilding they created. The fact that Kyle Katarn is not a character in the mainstream canon is just sad. Charged151 posted... </cite><quote>Granted, the damage done by the sequels is still present (OG cast is gone and not many care about the new cast) and is the giant self-inflicted wound that still haunts Disney Star Wars (TLJ in particular felt like the base-breaking star in particular, thanks Johnson for putting out an absolutely terrible, controversial movie). A pity Disney had no plan for anything regarding them, no decision on basic facts (who will the final villain be and what is the new girl's parentage?), and wanted a different director for each to boot. After two movies of no real buildup of anything, no wonder Episode 9 pulled a "now Palpatine is back".</quote>And a "somehow Palpatine returned in his clone bodies" is basically Dark Empire, isn't it? I haven't read it, but I seem to recall that Dark Empire isn't really a well-liked segment.Star Wars really needed someone like Kevin Feige to keep the movies related and accessible, but...lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Charged151 08/26/25 9:36:39 AM #46:	SSj4Wingzero posted... And a "somehow Palpatine returned in his clone bodies" is basically Dark Empire, isn't it? I haven't read it, but I seem to recall that Dark Empire isn't really a well-liked segment. Palpatine's return was handled better in Legends, but yeah, people consider the Thrawn Trilogy at about the same time as the better read. SSj4Wingzero posted... Star Wars really needed someone like Kevin Feige to keep the movies related and accessible, but...lol Having any type of plan for what the Sequel Trilogy was supposed to be about would have greatly helped. And yeah, if they wanted to have a different director for each movie, they really needed to have someone overseeing that the movies actually went well together. --- I'm...the...master...of...ellipses... <cite>Charged151 posted [p:986211705] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>SSj4Wingzero posted... </cite><quote>And a "somehow Palpatine returned in his clone bodies" is basically Dark Empire, isn't it? I haven't read it, but I seem to recall that Dark Empire isn't really a well-liked segment.</quote>Palpatine's return was handled better in Legends, but yeah, people consider the Thrawn Trilogy at about the same time as the better read.SSj4Wingzero posted... </cite><quote>Star Wars really needed someone like Kevin Feige to keep the movies related and accessible, but...lol</quote>Having any type of plan for what the Sequel Trilogy was supposed to be about would have greatly helped. And yeah, if they wanted to have a different director for each movie, they really needed to have someone overseeing that the movies actually went well together.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSj4Wingzero 08/26/25 10:14:57 AM #47:	Charged151 posted... Having any type of plan for what the Sequel Trilogy was supposed to be about would have greatly helped. And yeah, if they wanted to have a different director for each movie, they really needed to have someone overseeing that the movies actually went well together. Indeed. Kathleen Kennedy seems to have made the mistake of giving each directing/writing team too much autonomy. I'm not sure how the creative process worked with the MCU, but the movies all sort of fit together in a way that the Star Wars ones did not - my guess is Feige had some sort of an overarching plan on where he wanted the MCU to go and then the screenwriters basically filled in the rest, whereas with Star Wars that was certainly not the case. --- Not changing this sig until the Knicks win the NBA Championship! Started 4/23/2010! <cite>SSj4Wingzero posted [p:986212043] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>Charged151 posted... </cite><quote>Having any type of plan for what the Sequel Trilogy was supposed to be about would have greatly helped. And yeah, if they wanted to have a different director for each movie, they really needed to have someone overseeing that the movies actually went well together.</quote>Indeed. Kathleen Kennedy seems to have made the mistake of giving each directing/writing team too much autonomy. I'm not sure how the creative process worked with the MCU, but the movies all sort of fit together in a way that the Star Wars ones did not - my guess is Feige had some sort of an overarching plan on where he wanted the MCU to go and then the screenwriters basically filled in the rest, whereas with Star Wars that was certainly not the case.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
McmadnessV3 08/26/25 10:20:24 AM #48:	When they first announced they were wiping the slate clean and cherry picking the old EU I was actually on board with it because for every great EU story there was a lot of dumb stupid ones with a lot of inconsistencies. So I was hopeful that they could actually make something superior...then they didn't and in fact made things worse. --- Thank you for taking the time to read this sig. This sig loves you. <cite>McmadnessV3 posted [p:986212115] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>When they first announced they were wiping the slate clean and cherry picking the old EU I was actually on board with it because for every great EU story there was a lot of dumb stupid ones with a lot of inconsistencies. So I was hopeful that they could actually make something superior...then they didn't and in fact made things worse.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
doshindude 08/26/25 10:27:10 AM #49:	It bugs me that they decanonized certain things that WERE confirmed canon before. Clone Wars 2003 (ok, technically de-canon'd pre-Disney, but it still pisses me off) and The Force Unleashed come to mind. --- Kind reminder not to defend corporations when they make dumb/anti-consumer decisions. <cite>doshindude posted [p:986212166] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>It bugs me that they decanonized certain things that WERE confirmed canon before. Clone Wars 2003 (ok, technically de-canon'd pre-Disney, but it still pisses me off) and The Force Unleashed come to mind.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 08/26/25 11:52:42 AM #50:	doshindude posted... It bugs me that they decanonized certain things that WERE confirmed canon before. Clone Wars 2003 (ok, technically de-canon'd pre-Disney, but it still pisses me off) and The Force Unleashed come to mind. the force unleashed never fit in the first place starkillers use of the force is just utter BS as for clone wars 2k3 it got replaced by a better show --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:986212906] in How do you... [t:81031816]...</cite> <quote>doshindude posted... </cite><quote>It bugs me that they decanonized certain things that WERE confirmed canon before. Clone Wars 2003 (ok, technically de-canon'd pre-Disney, but it still pisses me off) and The Force Unleashed come to mind.</quote>the force unleashed never fit in the first place starkillers use of the force is just utter BSas for clone wars 2k3 it got replaced by a better show</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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