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EpicMickeyDrew 11/14/25 11:09:12 AM #1:	What's so good about it? Edit: asking because it's on sale atm 20% off --- https://psnprofiles.com/Shuffle666 <cite>EpicMickeyDrew posted [p:987040958] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>What's so good about it? Edit: asking because it's on sale atm 20% off</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dissident_77 11/14/25 11:11:31 AM #2:	No, everyone just talks about it being GOTY for no good reason --- Currently playing - Nioh 2 <cite>Dissident_77 posted [p:987040987] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>No, everyone just talks about it being GOTY for no good reason</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 11/14/25 11:12:52 AM #3:	Ya its incredible in pretty much every aspect imo. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:987040996] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>Ya its incredible in pretty much every aspect imo. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PraetorXyn 11/14/25 11:15:04 AM #4:	Yes. The music is as good as anything Uuematsu and Mitsuda have ever done, if not better. The writing is great by video game standards. The combat system is the best variation on turn based Ive seen since Atluss Press Turn system. The I dont know what youd call it, production? Is sublime. Im talking about what song plays during what cutscene or emotional beat, etc. It has an actual world map thats fun to explore. The progression system and character builds are great (though I wish there were Lumina loadouts). Its just a masterpiece. Literally the only thing I can really criticize it for is that some of the minigames suck. --- https://store.steampowered.com/wishlist/profiles/76561198052113750 <cite>PraetorXyn posted [p:987041014] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>Yes.The music is as good as anything Uuematsu and Mitsuda have ever done, if not better.The writing is great by video game standards.The combat system is the best variation on turn based Ive seen since Atluss Press Turn system.The I dont know what youd call it, production? Is sublime. Im talking about what song plays during what cutscene or emotional beat, etc.It has an actual world map thats fun to explore.The progression system and character builds are great (though I wish there were Lumina loadouts).Its just a masterpiece. Literally the only thing I can really criticize it for is that some of the minigames suck.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NoxObscuras 11/14/25 11:15:14 AM #5:	Absolutely. Not only do people love that the dodging and parrying keep you engaged with the turn based combat, but the story is well written and the world is interesting. It's got so much going for it --- Steam/Xbox/PSN = NoxObscuras <cite>NoxObscuras posted [p:987041015] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>Absolutely. Not only do people love that the dodging and parrying keep you engaged with the turn based combat, but the story is well written and the world is interesting. It's got so much going for it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dezeree 11/14/25 11:15:18 AM #6:	The ost is pretty good but it has a severe balancing problem. The mc also sucks <cite>dezeree posted [p:987041017] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>The ost is pretty good but it has a severe balancing problem. The mc also sucks</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DuuuDe14 11/14/25 11:18:26 AM #7:	Yes. --- The Official Sons of Sparda of all GameFAQS boards. June 10, 2018. The day Dante returned to us. Do what you want, just don't expect to get paid. <cite>DuuuDe14 posted [p:987041049] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>Yes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bIuerain 11/14/25 11:19:43 AM #8:	No, it's dogshit. --- "Log off" is legit the best advice you can give someone in today's world - TheFuzz3451 <cite>bIuerain posted [p:987041062] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>No, it's dogshit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EpicMickeyDrew 11/14/25 11:21:00 AM #9:	Dissident_77 posted... No, everyone just talks about it being GOTY for no good reason I know bit I'm asking WHY. all I ever see if people say "GOTY! GOTY!" Without any reasoning. --- https://psnprofiles.com/Shuffle666 <cite>EpicMickeyDrew posted [p:987041076] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>Dissident_77 posted... </cite><quote>No, everyone just talks about it being GOTY for no good reason</quote>I know bit I'm asking WHY. all I ever see if people say "GOTY! GOTY!" Without any reasoning. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MagiMarthKoopa 11/14/25 11:21:06 AM #10:	It starts out great but the completely backwards difficulty progression and that one guy make it more of a 7/10 for me <cite>MagiMarthKoopa posted [p:987041077] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>It starts out great but the completely backwards difficulty progression and that one guy make it more of a 7/10 for me</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ar0ge 11/14/25 11:22:24 AM #11:	I do think it's good, but imo it is overrated a bit. Game kinda dragged on from Act 2. <cite>Ar0ge posted [p:987041091] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>I do think it's good, but imo it is overrated a bit. Game kinda dragged on from Act 2. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bIuerain 11/14/25 11:26:39 AM #12:	EpicMickeyDrew posted... I know bit I'm asking WHY. all I ever see if people say "GOTY! GOTY!" Without any reasoning. People don't actually like turn based RPGs as much as they think they do, they just like playing expensive digital Bop It. The moment a game has a bunch of parries and QTEs that completely undermine all the RPG systems, its fans start saying stuff like "I'm a long time hardcore turn based JRPG fan, but actually every game should be like this forever and I hate turn based games." --- "Log off" is legit the best advice you can give someone in today's world - TheFuzz3451 <cite>bIuerain posted [p:987041138] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>EpicMickeyDrew posted... </cite><quote>I know bit I'm asking WHY. all I ever see if people say "GOTY! GOTY!" Without any reasoning.</quote>People don't actually like turn based RPGs as much as they think they do, they just like playing expensive digital Bop It.The moment a game has a bunch of parries and QTEs that completely undermine all the RPG systems, its fans start saying stuff like "I'm a long time hardcore turn based JRPG fan, but actually every game should be like this forever and I hate turn based games."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dissident_77 11/14/25 11:28:05 AM #13:	EpicMickeyDrew posted... I know bit I'm asking WHY. all I ever see if people say "GOTY! GOTY!" Without any reasoning. People give reasoning all the time. Topic feels disingenuous. But fine, the story, music and artstyle are gorgeous. The world is fun to explore, the combat is fast and fun for a turn-based game, and the customization is fantastic. Only negatives are inventory/skill management and late game balancing. Also, the comment above me is dumb --- Currently playing - Nioh 2 <cite>Dissident_77 posted [p:987041154] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>EpicMickeyDrew posted... </cite><quote>I know bit I'm asking WHY. all I ever see if people say "GOTY! GOTY!" Without any reasoning.</quote>People give reasoning all the time. Topic feels disingenuous. But fine, the story, music and artstyle are gorgeous. The world is fun to explore, the combat is fast and fun for a turn-based game, and the customization is fantastic. Only negatives are inventory/skill management and late game balancing.Also, the comment above me is dumb</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Murphiroth 11/14/25 11:30:52 AM #14:	EpicMickeyDrew posted... I know bit I'm asking WHY. all I ever see if people say "GOTY! GOTY!" Without any reasoning. You haven't looked very hard at all. There's been reasoning provided in this very topic. <cite>Murphiroth posted [p:987041182] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>EpicMickeyDrew posted... </cite><quote>I know bit I'm asking WHY. all I ever see if people say "GOTY! GOTY!" Without any reasoning.</quote>You haven't looked very hard at all.There's been reasoning provided in this very topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LSGW_Zephyra 11/14/25 11:33:06 AM #15:	EpicMickeyDrew posted... What's so good about it? It's fun to play and the story is great So ya know, like most things. Can't talk about the story without spoilers so I'll just say it's like a modern PS1 era final fantasy that took some inspiration from other games and melded it together and made it French --- Bioshock gave us a fictional world showing why libertarianism doesn't work. Cryptos/NFTs gave us the real world example (She/Her) <cite>LSGW_Zephyra posted [p:987041206] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>EpicMickeyDrew posted... </cite><quote>What's so good about it?</quote>It's fun to play and the story is greatSo ya know, like most things. Can't talk about the story without spoilers so I'll just say it's like a modern PS1 era final fantasy that took some inspiration from other games and melded it together and made it French </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PowerOats 11/14/25 11:35:23 AM #16:	bIuerain posted... People don't actually like turn based RPGs as much as they think they do, they just like playing expensive digital Bop It. The moment a game has a bunch of parries and QTEs that completely undermine all the RPG systems, its fans start saying stuff like "I'm a long time hardcore turn based JRPG fan, but actually every game should be like this forever and I hate turn based games." If it doesnt have action commands like Paper Mario, it needs to be snappy like FFX <cite>PowerOats posted [p:987041232] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>bIuerain posted...</cite><quote>People don't actually like turn based RPGs as much as they think they do, they just like playing expensive digital Bop It.The moment a game has a bunch of parries and QTEs that completely undermine all the RPG systems, its fans start saying stuff like "I'm a long time hardcore turn based JRPG fan, but actually every game should be like this forever and I hate turn based games."</quote>If it doesnt have action commands like Paper Mario, it needs to be snappy like FFX</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Akuryu 11/14/25 11:36:43 AM #17:	Slightly overrated. It's game of the year for sure. I disagree with people hyping it up as game of the decade, or game of the millennium. <cite>Akuryu posted [p:987041250] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>Slightly overrated. It's game of the year for sure. I disagree with people hyping it up as game of the decade, or game of the millennium.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssb_yunglink2 11/14/25 11:37:03 AM #18:	bIuerain posted... People don't actually like turn based RPGs as much as they think they do, they just like playing expensive digital Bop It. The moment a game has a bunch of parries and QTEs that completely undermine all the RPG systems, its fans start saying stuff like "I'm a long time hardcore turn based JRPG fan, but actually every game should be like this forever and I hate turn based games." People like this person have a massive hatred of E33 and need to pretend that only people who dont actually like JRPGs enjoy the game lmao Not every game should be like this in terms of battle mechanics. Should every JRPG have music this good, a world thats fun to explore and and interesting story though? Yes. --- Hee Ho <cite>ssb_yunglink2 posted [p:987041253] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>bIuerain posted... </cite><quote>People don't actually like turn based RPGs as much as they think they do, they just like playing expensive digital Bop It.The moment a game has a bunch of parries and QTEs that completely undermine all the RPG systems, its fans start saying stuff like "I'm a long time hardcore turn based JRPG fan, but actually every game should be like this forever and I hate turn based games."</quote>People like this person have a massive hatred of E33 and need to pretend that only people who dont actually like JRPGs enjoy the game lmao Not every game should be like this in terms of battle mechanics. Should every JRPG have music this good, a world thats fun to explore and and interesting story though? Yes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MaxEffingBemis 11/14/25 11:40:22 AM #19:	dezeree posted... The ost is pretty good but it has a severe balancing problem. The mc also sucks Explain why you think the mc sucks --- She took pity on me, horizontally, but most likely because of my band <cite>MaxEffingBemis posted [p:987041283] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>dezeree posted... </cite><quote>The ost is pretty good but it has a severe balancing problem. The mc also sucks</quote>Explain why you think the mc sucks </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LSGW_Zephyra 11/14/25 11:40:53 AM #20:	ssb_yunglink2 posted... People like this person have a massive hatred of E33 and need to pretend that only people who dont actually like JRPGs enjoy the game lmao Yeah, never understood the hatred for E33 from this angle. --- Bioshock gave us a fictional world showing why libertarianism doesn't work. Cryptos/NFTs gave us the real world example (She/Her) <cite>LSGW_Zephyra posted [p:987041286] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>ssb_yunglink2 posted... </cite><quote>People like this person have a massive hatred of E33 and need to pretend that only people who dont actually like JRPGs enjoy the game lmao </quote> Yeah, never understood the hatred for E33 from this angle. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RedGenki 11/14/25 11:43:24 AM #21:	It makes the French likable. I'm sorry, but that's too much fantasy for me. Jokes aside, it's an amazing game. I'd even go so far and say it's our generational FF7. <cite>RedGenki posted [p:987041314] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>It makes the French likable.I'm sorry, but that's too much fantasy for me.Jokes aside, it's an amazing game. I'd even go so far and say it's our generational FF7. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NoxObscuras 11/14/25 11:43:42 AM #22:	bIuerain posted... People don't actually like turn based RPGs as much as they think they do, they just like playing expensive digital Bop It. The moment a game has a bunch of parries and QTEs that completely undermine all the RPG systems, its fans start saying stuff like "I'm a long time hardcore turn based JRPG fan, but actually every game should be like this forever and I hate turn based games." Nah, I still enjoy turn based combat systems. Loved Expedition 33, but I also enjoyed Metaphor Refantazio last year. That doesn't have dodging/parrying, but I still put 163 hours into getting 100% completion there. And I've also put 100's of hours into the Legend of Heroes/Trails series. Don't project your dislike of turn based onto others lol --- Steam/Xbox/PSN = NoxObscuras <cite>NoxObscuras posted [p:987041319] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>bIuerain posted... </cite><quote>People don't actually like turn based RPGs as much as they think they do, they just like playing expensive digital Bop It.The moment a game has a bunch of parries and QTEs that completely undermine all the RPG systems, its fans start saying stuff like "I'm a long time hardcore turn based JRPG fan, but actually every game should be like this forever and I hate turn based games."</quote>Nah, I still enjoy turn based combat systems. Loved Expedition 33, but I also enjoyed Metaphor Refantazio last year. That doesn't have dodging/parrying, but I still put 163 hours into getting 100% completion there. And I've also put 100's of hours into the Legend of Heroes/Trails series. Don't project your dislike of turn based onto others lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssb_yunglink2 11/14/25 11:43:51 AM #23:	LSGW_Zephyra posted... Yeah, never understood the hatred for E33 from this angle. Its probably the most common angle in JRPG centric spaces Ive seen tbh. The JRPG subreddit had a seething hatred for the game when it came out, and that was the most common argument. Ive also seen its the jrpg for people who are afraid of anime and JRPG for the people who only play COD. A lot of people..did not take the games success well for whatever reason --- Hee Ho <cite>ssb_yunglink2 posted [p:987041321] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>LSGW_Zephyra posted... </cite><quote>Yeah, never understood the hatred for E33 from this angle.</quote>Its probably the most common angle in JRPG centric spaces Ive seen tbh. The JRPG subreddit had a seething hatred for the game when it came out, and that was the most common argument. Ive also seen its the jrpg for people who are afraid of anime and JRPG for the people who only play COD. A lot of people..did not take the games success well for whatever reason </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeggetaX 11/14/25 11:46:52 AM #24:	Is the button pressing in battle like Mario RPG easy or is it like Mother 3 hard? --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys <cite>VeggetaX posted [p:987041345] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>Is the button pressing in battle like Mario RPG easy or is it like Mother 3 hard?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EpicMickeyDrew 11/14/25 11:47:19 AM #25:	Murphiroth posted... You haven't looked very hard at all. There's been reasoning provided in this very topic. Yeah? That's why I made the topic? --- https://psnprofiles.com/Shuffle666 <cite>EpicMickeyDrew posted [p:987041349] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>Murphiroth posted... </cite><quote>You haven't looked very hard at all.There's been reasoning provided in this very topic.</quote>Yeah? That's why I made the topic?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LSGW_Zephyra 11/14/25 11:50:00 AM #26:	ssb_yunglink2 posted... Its probably the most common angle in JRPG centric spaces Ive seen tbh. The JRPG subreddit had a seething hatred for the game when it came out, and that was the most common argument. Ive also seen its the jrpg for people who are afraid of anime and JRPG for the people who only play COD. A lot of people..did not take the games success well for whatever reason I wonder if they can smell the change in the air around this game. They know it's going to spawn a franchise and inevitably it's going to outclass FF and the like unless Square seriously gets their act together. With that said, there is space enough for two and honestly if this game puts other RPG developers on notice to be better then I think we all stand to benefit. It's weird because the game is an amalgam of JRPG mechanics, it's hard to imagine how they hate the game except for the tone/atmosphere/story in which case... idk folks, not every game is for everyone and y'all need to go outside and touch grass or something. --- Bioshock gave us a fictional world showing why libertarianism doesn't work. Cryptos/NFTs gave us the real world example (She/Her) <cite>LSGW_Zephyra posted [p:987041372] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>ssb_yunglink2 posted... </cite><quote>Its probably the most common angle in JRPG centric spaces Ive seen tbh. The JRPG subreddit had a seething hatred for the game when it came out, and that was the most common argument. Ive also seen its the jrpg for people who are afraid of anime and JRPG for the people who only play COD. A lot of people..did not take the games success well for whatever reason</quote>I wonder if they can smell the change in the air around this game. They know it's going to spawn a franchise and inevitably it's going to outclass FF and the like unless Square seriously gets their act together. With that said, there is space enough for two and honestly if this game puts other RPG developers on notice to be better then I think we all stand to benefit. It's weird because the game is an amalgam of JRPG mechanics, it's hard to imagine how they hate the game except for the tone/atmosphere/story in which case... idk folks, not every game is for everyone and y'all need to go outside and touch grass or something.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssb_yunglink2 11/14/25 11:50:07 AM #27:	VeggetaX posted... Is the button pressing in battle like Mario RPG easy or is it like Mother 3 hard? Its completely integral to not getting killed in like 3-4 hits from the get go. if you dont dodge/parry, you die for most of the game. I think its very fluid and well done, but it can definitely be hard sometimes to get timing down --- Hee Ho <cite>ssb_yunglink2 posted [p:987041377] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>VeggetaX posted... </cite><quote>Is the button pressing in battle like Mario RPG easy or is it like Mother 3 hard?</quote>Its completely integral to not getting killed in like 3-4 hits from the get go. if you dont dodge/parry, you die for most of the game. I think its very fluid and well done, but it can definitely be hard sometimes to get timing down </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dezeree 11/14/25 11:51:45 AM #28:	MaxEffingBemis posted... Explain why you think the mc sucks ~~he let the superior mc die for one~~ <cite>dezeree posted [p:987041389] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>MaxEffingBemis posted... </cite><quote>Explain why you think the mc sucks</quote>he let the superior mc die for one</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LSGW_Zephyra 11/14/25 11:52:34 AM #29:	VeggetaX posted... Is the button pressing in battle like Mario RPG easy or is it like Mother 3 hard? The QTEs are easy enough but parrying takes some getting used to. However, after enough practice you'll get the rhythm. It doesn't take too long. Enemies have large tells and their is often an audio cue For the record everyone, the parry and dodge aren't like say in Dark Souls, the Dodge button is just the parry button with a bigger window and doesn't grant you AP. After the very early game I never touched the Dodge button again. --- Bioshock gave us a fictional world showing why libertarianism doesn't work. Cryptos/NFTs gave us the real world example (She/Her) <cite>LSGW_Zephyra posted [p:987041394] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>VeggetaX posted... </cite><quote>Is the button pressing in battle like Mario RPG easy or is it like Mother 3 hard?</quote>The QTEs are easy enough but parrying takes some getting used to. However, after enough practice you'll get the rhythm. It doesn't take too long. Enemies have large tells and their is often an audio cueFor the record everyone, the parry and dodge aren't like say in Dark Souls, the Dodge button is just the parry button with a bigger window and doesn't grant you AP. After the very early game I never touched the Dodge button again. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dissident_77 11/14/25 11:54:14 AM #30:	Also, maybe we shouldn't call it QTE, because it's not. It's simply real time dodging and parrying --- Currently playing - Nioh 2 <cite>Dissident_77 posted [p:987041412] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>Also, maybe we shouldn't call it QTE, because it's not. It's simply real time dodging and parrying </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lechonk 11/14/25 11:54:39 AM #31:	It's an easy game of the year. From it's origins to it's release it really is an achievement. https://youtu.be/mXLOLgC2V2Q?si=OViWYsXTiizbXAoS <cite>Lechonk posted [p:987041418] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>It's an easy game of the year. From it's origins to it's release it really is an achievement.https://youtu.be/mXLOLgC2V2Q?si=OViWYsXTiizbXAoS</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
boxoto 11/14/25 11:56:09 AM #32:	I had some (minor) issues with it, but it's a really good game, IMO. my issues with it were just how linear levels felt and how the side-content was pretty weak, but I attribute them to the game's budget, and they did really well with that they had. also, I generally don't like JRPG-inspired turn-based combat, and with Clair Obscur, it was no exception, but it was alright. 8.5/10, for me. --- Isn't that right, Zach? https://giphy.com/gifs/4A7l8fUxbmHjOwwn0x <cite>boxoto posted [p:987041431] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>I had some (minor) issues with it, but it's a really good game, IMO.my issues with it were just how linear levels felt and how the side-content was pretty weak, but I attribute them to the game's budget, and they did really well with that they had. also, I generally don't like JRPG-inspired turn-based combat, and with Clair Obscur, it was no exception, but it was alright. 8.5/10, for me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NoxObscuras 11/14/25 11:56:57 AM #33:	VeggetaX posted... Is the button pressing in battle like Mario RPG easy or is it like Mother 3 hard? The timing of the dishes themselves are probably closer to Mario RPG. Parrying had much less leeway. But the game itself is pretty challenging because events hit hard. Luckily, there's also difficulty settings. I don't think I would have wanted to make it to the end if I couldn't put it on easy lol Dissident_77 posted... Also, maybe we shouldn't call it QTE, because it's not. It's simply real time dodging and parrying Adding the bonus damage to your attacks were definitely QTE's --- Steam/Xbox/PSN = NoxObscuras <cite>NoxObscuras posted [p:987041438] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>VeggetaX posted... </cite><quote>Is the button pressing in battle like Mario RPG easy or is it like Mother 3 hard?</quote>The timing of the dishes themselves are probably closer to Mario RPG. Parrying had much less leeway. But the game itself is pretty challenging because events hit hard. Luckily, there's also difficulty settings. I don't think I would have wanted to make it to the end if I couldn't put it on easy lolDissident_77 posted... </cite><quote>Also, maybe we shouldn't call it QTE, because it's not. It's simply real time dodging and parrying</quote>Adding the bonus damage to your attacks were definitely QTE's</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Squall28 11/14/25 11:58:23 AM #34:	It's not the best game ever, but it's easily a GOTY caliber game. The thing that stood out for me is the level design. Most RPGs these days are just an open field type of thing or some areas that look like they can be randomly generated. E33 has areas that are reminiscent of older JRPGs where you can tell the developers meticulously laid out the level. --- You can't go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending. -Misattributed to CS Lewis <cite>Squall28 posted [p:987041448] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>It's not the best game ever, but it's easily a GOTY caliber game. The thing that stood out for me is the level design. Most RPGs these days are just an open field type of thing or some areas that look like they can be randomly generated. E33 has areas that are reminiscent of older JRPGs where you can tell the developers meticulously laid out the level. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaldrenthebold 11/14/25 12:00:05 PM #35:	VeggetaX posted... Is the button pressing in battle like Mario RPG easy or is it like Mother 3 hard? Don't play it on Hard mode and you'll be fine. I started with it and I'm honestly not the best with parries (dodges are easier) and you get SMOKED on that difficulty unless you are perfect. Normal is much better and after a bundle of hours you can take hits much better. Dodges are easier so you use those to understand the timing of an enemy then try to parry. --- http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u223/chocolateFRESH/arts/kraid.png - Thanks GP cosmonaut! http://i.imgur.com/TuJWAR8.jpg <cite>Kaldrenthebold posted [p:987041466] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>VeggetaX posted... </cite><quote>Is the button pressing in battle like Mario RPG easy or is it like Mother 3 hard?</quote>Don't play it on Hard mode and you'll be fine. I started with it and I'm honestly not the best with parries (dodges are easier) and you get SMOKED on that difficulty unless you are perfect. Normal is much better and after a bundle of hours you can take hits much better.Dodges are easier so you use those to understand the timing of an enemy then try to parry.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Westernwolf4 11/14/25 12:00:22 PM #36:	It is a really good game. Story and music are fantastic. The balancing in the combat is a little off (and worsens as the game goes on), and some design choices make exploration more of a chore than it should be. These flaws make it not my game of the year personally, but it is well worth playing, especially at a discount. I will be picking up whatever the developer does next for sure. --- An opinion does not turn into a fact simply because the person holding it feels strongly about it. <cite>Westernwolf4 posted [p:987041468] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>It is a really good game. Story and music are fantastic. The balancing in the combat is a little off (and worsens as the game goes on), and some design choices make exploration more of a chore than it should be. These flaws make it not my game of the year personally, but it is well worth playing, especially at a discount. I will be picking up whatever the developer does next for sure. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MaxEffingBemis 11/14/25 12:00:33 PM #37:	dezeree posted... ~~he let the superior mc die for one~~ Thats fair. ~~I also didnt know which mc you meant anyway~~ --- She took pity on me, horizontally, but most likely because of my band <cite>MaxEffingBemis posted [p:987041470] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>dezeree posted... </cite><quote>he let the superior mc die for one</quote>Thats fair. I also didnt know which mc you meant anyway</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prestoff 11/14/25 12:00:56 PM #38:	I can absolutely understand people not liking the parry/dodge mechanic in a turn base game because it's really the only way to mitigate/negate damage. For a lot of turn based RPG's or even Action RPG's, they offer other ways to mitigate/negate damage like in turn base increasing your defense/tank taunt and Movement in Action RPG's. They see it as a lack of player expression that you're forced to get good at a mechanic you don't like, which is totally fine because there has been games that are considered GOTY's that I can't enjoy because the main gameplay mechanic just wasn't for me. However, subreddits like the JRPG one where they make claims/project about how people who enjoy Expedition 33 are only people who hate JRPG's to begin with. Most of us here on Gfaqs are JRPG players, so seeing a lot of people enjoying it here shows that to be false. It isn't just the gameplay mechanic, but the whole package when it comes to the graphics, writing, story, characters, music, etc. On top of all that, they manage to make a game that feels like AAA quality, even when given a relatively smaller budget (more AA I guess). I know on the Expedition 33 subreddit there's an argument to be made whether this game is truly "indie" or not, but nonetheless it is a game that Sandfall Studios were able to make without any corporate oversight and was able to succeed at the vision they were going for. That's a win for any game made and plenty of people enjoying it. --- DI MOLTO! <cite>Prestoff posted [p:987041475] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>I can absolutely understand people not liking the parry/dodge mechanic in a turn base game because it's really the only way to mitigate/negate damage. For a lot of turn based RPG's or even Action RPG's, they offer other ways to mitigate/negate damage like in turn base increasing your defense/tank taunt and Movement in Action RPG's. They see it as a lack of player expression that you're forced to get good at a mechanic you don't like, which is totally fine because there has been games that are considered GOTY's that I can't enjoy because the main gameplay mechanic just wasn't for me. However, subreddits like the JRPG one where they make claims/project about how people who enjoy Expedition 33 are only people who hate JRPG's to begin with. Most of us here on Gfaqs are JRPG players, so seeing a lot of people enjoying it here shows that to be false. It isn't just the gameplay mechanic, but the whole package when it comes to the graphics, writing, story, characters, music, etc. On top of all that, they manage to make a game that feels like AAA quality, even when given a relatively smaller budget (more AA I guess). I know on the Expedition 33 subreddit there's an argument to be made whether this game is truly "indie" or not, but nonetheless it is a game that Sandfall Studios were able to make without any corporate oversight and was able to succeed at the vision they were going for. That's a win for any game made and plenty of people enjoying it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
R_Jackal 11/14/25 12:05:03 PM #39:	Even as someone who didn't care for it for a few design choices... It doesn't over stay it's welcome. Combat is genuinely fun once you get the hang of it(at the very least, more engaging than the average turn based systems). The characters are all fairly well done even at the worst of it. It is not absolutely inundated with side content but has just enough to spice things up properly. It's a well done game made by developers who clearly care about the product they were putting out, which is an enormous improvement over about 80% of the AAA space these days in my opinion. <cite>R_Jackal posted [p:987041520] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>Even as someone who didn't care for it for a few design choices...It doesn't over stay it's welcome. Combat is genuinely fun once you get the hang of it(at the very least, more engaging than the average turn based systems). The characters are all fairly well done even at the worst of it. It is not absolutely inundated with side content but has just enough to spice things up properly. It's a well done game made by developers who clearly care about the product they were putting out, which is an enormous improvement over about 80% of the AAA space these days in my opinion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tripleh213 11/14/25 12:05:45 PM #40:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/8b04d221.jpg --- Bucks World Champions 2021 PS4 looks great <cite>tripleh213 posted [p:987041528] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/8b04d221.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LSGW_Zephyra 11/14/25 12:06:45 PM #41:	It makes me want to check out other turn based RPGs. Haven't checked out Octopath Traveler or Sea of Stars yet --- Bioshock gave us a fictional world showing why libertarianism doesn't work. Cryptos/NFTs gave us the real world example (She/Her) <cite>LSGW_Zephyra posted [p:987041541] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>It makes me want to check out other turn based RPGs. Haven't checked out Octopath Traveler or Sea of Stars yet</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephirothe 11/14/25 12:07:16 PM #42:	Game is amazing and 100% worth playing. amazing music, great story, great characters, fun gameplay --- "It would imply the regeneration of mankind, if they were to become elevated enough to truly worship sticks and stones" - Henry David Thoreau <cite>Sephirothe posted [p:987041548] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>Game is amazing and 100% worth playing.amazing music, great story, great characters, fun gameplay</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Calwings 11/14/25 12:14:16 PM #43:	NoxObscuras posted... Not only do people love that the dodging and parrying keep you engaged with the turn based combat Speak for yourself, that was the biggest (maybe only) thing I disliked about Expedition 33. I never got the hang of the dodging and parrying no matter how hard I tried, and the enemies are extremely overtuned and unforgiving on anything but the lowest difficulty if you can't do it. On normal difficulty, I was stuck losing to very early enemies for hours before I switched to the lowest difficulty to keep myself from giving up and uninstalling the game, and even on the lowest difficulty I still lost some later battles due to missed dodges. Seriously, fuck this mechanic. That being said, E33 is amazing in basically every other way aside from my gripes with that mechanic. The story, the characters, the graphics, the art style, the music, the exploration, all of it is peak and I'm glad I didn't give up on the game after my initial frustrations. LSGW_Zephyra posted... It makes me want to check out other turn based RPGs. Haven't checked out Octopath Traveler or Sea of Stars yet I can vouch for Sea of Stars being really good. It does have a similar "push a button during an attack to increase the damage you do or decrease the damage you take" mechanic as E33, but it's more of an optional bonus and not something that completely fucks you over if you can't do it well, so it wasn't nearly as frustrating for me. All of the praises I said about E33 also apply to Sea of Stars except the graphics, though Sea of Stars has its own charm with the way it looks. I have Octopath Traveler downloaded, but haven't played it nearly enough to fairly judge the game. --- https://i.imgur.com/PmF1p9q.jpg <cite>Calwings posted [p:987041621] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>NoxObscuras posted... </cite><quote>Not only do people love that the dodging and parrying keep you engaged with the turn based combat</quote>Speak for yourself, that was the biggest (maybe only) thing I disliked about Expedition 33. I never got the hang of the dodging and parrying no matter how hard I tried, and the enemies are extremely overtuned and unforgiving on anything but the lowest difficulty if you can't do it. On normal difficulty, I was stuck losing to very early enemies for hours before I switched to the lowest difficulty to keep myself from giving up and uninstalling the game, and even on the lowest difficulty I still lost some later battles due to missed dodges. Seriously, fuck this mechanic.That being said, E33 is amazing in basically every other way aside from my gripes with that mechanic. The story, the characters, the graphics, the art style, the music, the exploration, all of it is peak and I'm glad I didn't give up on the game after my initial frustrations.LSGW_Zephyra posted... </cite><quote>It makes me want to check out other turn based RPGs. Haven't checked out Octopath Traveler or Sea of Stars yet</quote>I can vouch for Sea of Stars being really good. It does have a similar "push a button during an attack to increase the damage you do or decrease the damage you take" mechanic as E33, but it's more of an optional bonus and not something that completely fucks you over if you can't do it well, so it wasn't nearly as frustrating for me. All of the praises I said about E33 also apply to Sea of Stars except the graphics, though Sea of Stars has its own charm with the way it looks.I have Octopath Traveler downloaded, but haven't played it nearly enough to fairly judge the game.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Touch 11/14/25 12:17:13 PM #44:	Besides what others have said in the topic so far The game is an absolute love letter to JRPGs. The devs have talked about how much they love and appreciate the games of the past and you can see their influences in multiple facets of the game. If you are a lover of the genre, it adds even more to the experience just to see the parallels for yourself. --- You've buttered your last biscuit, pardner. <cite>Touch posted [p:987041651] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>Besides what others have said in the topic so farThe game is an absolute love letter to JRPGs. The devs have talked about how much they love and appreciate the games of the past and you can see their influences in multiple facets of the game. If you are a lover of the genre, it adds even more to the experience just to see the parallels for yourself. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Murphiroth 11/14/25 12:18:44 PM #45:	Touch posted... Besides what others have said in the topic so far The game is an absolute love letter to JRPGs. The devs have talked about how much they love and appreciate the games of the past and you can see their influences in multiple facets of the game. If you are a lover of the genre, it adds even more to the experience just to see the parallels for yourself. This is very true and it makes the weird backlash from JRPG diehards even weirder. <cite>Murphiroth posted [p:987041666] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>Touch posted... </cite><quote>Besides what others have said in the topic so farThe game is an absolute love letter to JRPGs. The devs have talked about how much they love and appreciate the games of the past and you can see their influences in multiple facets of the game. If you are a lover of the genre, it adds even more to the experience just to see the parallels for yourself.</quote>This is very true and it makes the weird backlash from JRPG diehards even weirder. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shinymon 11/14/25 12:20:48 PM #46:	The game doesnt waste your time so it feels like youre getting your every worth out of it. That being said it is still far from perfect -picto UI sucks -certain characters get less focus -balancing issue late game <cite>shinymon posted [p:987041686] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>The game doesnt waste your time so it feels like youre getting your every worth out of it.That being said it is still far from perfect-picto UI sucks-certain characters get less focus-balancing issue late game</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeeathLivesOn 11/14/25 12:22:07 PM #47:	Ya it's really good. Didn't like the endings tho (or much of ~~Act 3~~), but the writing / production quality / humor / etc were simply top-notch. Haven't seen better that I can recall --- 'Just sitting around the house tonight w my dog. Felt like I should be doing something important, but couldn't put my finger on it.' - Phil Kessel on USA snub <cite>HeeathLivesOn posted [p:987041699] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>Ya it's really good. Didn't like the endings tho (or much of Act 3), but the writing / production quality / humor / etc were simply top-notch. Haven't seen better that I can recall</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeggetaX 11/14/25 12:27:08 PM #48:	Is there a legal mod I can use that'll auto do all the QTEs for me? --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys <cite>VeggetaX posted [p:987041752] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>Is there a legal mod I can use that'll auto do all the QTEs for me?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dissident_77 11/14/25 12:27:16 PM #49:	My 19yo daughter who never plays action games got used to the dodging. I don't see why some struggle so much, but it does take some practice. --- Currently playing - Nioh 2 <cite>Dissident_77 posted [p:987041753] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>My 19yo daughter who never plays action games got used to the dodging. I don't see why some struggle so much, but it does take some practice.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssb_yunglink2 11/14/25 12:27:52 PM #50:	Murphiroth posted... This is very true and it makes the weird backlash from JRPG diehards even weirder. A lot of these people genuinely seem to dislike western video games as a concept, even when its a love letter to the genre. Gameplay alone wouldnt cause this amount of ire, as games like legend of dragoon and even Mario and Luigi have turn QTE combat before. The amount of people acting as if this game could only be enjoyed by people who dont play JRPGs and hate anime is insane. --- Hee Ho <cite>ssb_yunglink2 posted [p:987041760] in Is clair o... [t:81070506]...</cite> <quote>Murphiroth posted... </cite><quote>This is very true and it makes the weird backlash from JRPG diehards even weirder.</quote>A lot of these people genuinely seem to dislike western video games as a concept, even when its a love letter to the genre. Gameplay alone wouldnt cause this amount of ire, as games like legend of dragoon and even Mario and Luigi have turn QTE combat before. The amount of people acting as if this game could only be enjoyed by people who dont play JRPGs and hate anime is insane. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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