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Hyena_Of_Ice posted...

Can't tell if serious.

https://sparq.stanford.edu/solutions/opt-out-policies-increase-organ-donation

If they wanted us to use tags then they shouldn't automatically select a default tag, since it allows users to ignore/forget about that section.

There are offices that tie printing to your work badge, so you just send the job to the shared service and then tap your badge on the printer you want to print at and then it prints right there.

What's cool about it?

They've been trying to overthrow Assad for a while already. I guess they're threatening to escalate the attempt.

Culprit found: https://x.com/allenanalysis/status/1851266908944810037

*Shockingly* a republican. Who could've foreseen this?!?!?!

LightSnake posted...

Southern Black voters are one of the biggest voting blocs for the Democrats, it's wild to see you still dismissing that after years

Tell me, which candidate won South Carolina in the general election of 2020?

Diceheist posted...

Biden actually had less money when party leaders rallied around him. It's wild how badly he was doing.

Which is why the turnaround was so stark. They got Clyburn's endorsement, managed to eek out a lead in a state that didn't even go to democrats in the general (but rewarded them this year for that favor by pushing their state ahead in the primary schedule), and ran with it. They got their buddies in media to pump out story after story about the "Biden miracle", got all the other candidates to drop out and rally around him, and used a PAC for Warren to stay in the race and split primary votes with Bernie. It's amazing what can be done if you have the party backing you in the party-controlled primary process.

LightSnake posted...

This is just cope and on some level, you know it

The real cope is thinking money doesn't play an outsized role in US politics. Also, don't tell me what I do or do not "know".

LightSnake posted...

The primaries have remained the same, dude. He signed up to play by the rules, and couldn't win. That's on him

Okay, but that doesn't change the fact that the primaries heavily favor wealthy corporate-friendly candidates. If you don't see why that's a problem then I don't know what to tell you.

LightSnake posted...

That's an interesting way of saying "he couldn't win over the primary voters." He got plenty coverage and his message didn't connect. Get over it.

I see you've chosen to simply ignore who most primary voters are, how small of the total population they make up, and that the primary process itself is controlled by the party. Sorry that you can't get over the facts, but that's what they are.

R_Jackal posted...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLyB0b3V88w

Dooby's debut is near, just a few minutes.

Just got around to watching this. I love the little steam whistle! I'm generally a sucker for particle effects.

LightSnake posted...

So he couldn't appeal to the people he actually needed to appeal to and thus lost

Right, he couldn't appeal to wealthy corporate-friendly types and thus lost in the process controlled by them.

LightSnake posted...

Bernie lost fair and square because at the end of the day, people voted against him in the primaries twice. Stop whining

Yes, the small fraction of people who actually vote in primaries (generally party diehards who dominate the party-controlled primary process) voted against him.

LightSnake posted...

This makes no sense whatsoever unless they were airing ads showing Bernie as a fascist who had to be kept out of office at all costs

Ads would bring attention to Bernie, instead they worked their connections in media to shit on Bernie any time they had to talk about him. Dumb shit like "Bernie Bros" persists to this day. Also, the primary process is completely party controlled, so they worked their magic there too.

Squall28 posted...

Bernie is just as lucid as ever. Real shame that we missed out on him as President.

Democrats worked harder to prevent him from winning the primary (both times each) than they did in trying to prevent trump from winning the general election.

Is it cheating or is it simply using keyboard and mouse giving an advantage?

McMarbles posted...

So you SUPPORT GENOCIDE?

No, because I don't make excuses for democrats even though I'm voting for them. That wasn't so hard, was it?

Sandalorn posted...

Oh believe me...I know his lying ways on here. That's why I posted and of course he once again went to his good ol' "You defend genocide" bullshit. Though I agree it is weird that any poster he doesn't agree with gets slandered with being "pro-genocide." Also weird that the mods allow it. He probably has accused over 100 people in total with either defending or being pro-genocide. He's broken.

Do you agree that democrats are supporting genocide? What do you think of someone who defends a supporter of genocide with whataboutism? I see that you keep talking about the mods, are you perhaps mass-marking my posts in the hopes of getting me moderated like how certain types would do so back on the politics board? I know your type, don't play the victim while throwing out posts filled with ad hominem and whataboutism.

Cemith posted...

Okay, so, here's a hypothetical for you. In the United States, there is a Democrat candidate, and a Republican candidate. If the Democrat candidate loses, who ends up in the White House? Just help me out here with your baseline.

You're hammering on a point that nobody disagrees on. Now here's a hypothetical for you: In the United States, there is a Democrat candidate, and a Republican candidate. If either candidate wins, will they stop israel from committing genocide? Just help me out here with your baseline.

Cemith posted...

Oh man, can you quote where a user ITT posted that they are OKAY with Democrats funding Israel? That would be a doozy if so!

Plenty of people here trying to distract from the topic of genocide with whataboutism. You included.

Are you Steve Balmer?

AceMos posted...

because im disabled gay woman in wyoming im fucking dead if trump wins

so i want to know if the person going "same thing both sides" actually gives a damn about innocent people dieing

I can answer that I've already voted early for democrats down the entire ballot. Now what can be done for the many innocent people currently dying in Palestine?

AceMos posted...

and toothbrush made it clear he wont actually do anything if trump wins

You're asking if I'm willing to take up arms against the government. Why do you expect anyone to answer something that is not only a moddable offense (and a likely ban) but also highly illegal?

Sandalorn posted...

So you can't show me where I "defended a pro-genocide stance" then? So you admit you are a troll and a liar. Grats bud.

So you stopped by just to accuse me of not caring about genocide? You weren't defending democrats' actions or anything? Sounds like you're exhibiting the behavior of a troll here.

AceMos posted...

toothbrush i again ask

will you fight the government if trump wins

will you protect the millions of hispanics that would die from his plans

will you protect those of us in the LGBT community

will you protect the people in ukrain

will you protect women from abusive husbands

will you actually FIGHT and i dont mean with a fucking picket sign

Are you advocating for violence against the government? This just seems like ban bait.

Sandalorn posted...

Can you please show me where in my post I am defending a pro-genocide stance? That type of bullshit and lying accusation should be an auto-ban on here.

Says the one accusing me of not caring about genocide. By your own rules, you'd be auto-banned. All I'm saying is that democrats should not support israel's campaign of genocide. Why do you have a problem with that?

Cemith posted...

I'm labeling you a centrist because you actually think both sides would be the same on this issue.

You don't understand what the word centrist means then. A centrist advocates for a center position, hence the term. It'd be like you calling me a centrist for saying both hitler and stalin are bad. I'm not saying that the solution is between the two of them, but rather outside of both of them (i.e. we should not accept authoritarianism just like we should not accept genocide).

Tmaster148 posted...

You're the one going around acting like your vote doesn't matter and that it's more important to not vote Harris over Palestine while conveniently ignoring everything Trump has said about Palestine. You clearly don't care outside of whatever appearance you want to keep about it.

I've already stated that I voted for democrats down the ballot, you just choose to repeatedly ignore this because you'd rather argue with a strawman.

Cemith posted...

Both parties are similar in regards to Israel, the key difference being that Trump is drafting blueprints for the West Bank right now, and we could possibly talk Harris into various solutions.

But hey continue huffing that centrist copium. It's worked well for you so far I'm sure.

Sorry forgot something

[image to show that nails are on fleek while defending a pro-genocide party or something, I dunno, just guessing the meaning]

I like how you're labeling me a centrist when you're defending democrats and their centrist "genocide but you can protest it a bit (but not too much like the student protests) as a compromise" stance.

Tmaster148 posted...

These people love to ignore that Harris has stated she supports a 2 state solution which involves Palestine not being killed. It's all just so they can ignore everything wrong with Trump so they can feel good about helping him win.

Ah yes, the fabled two-state solution that has been trotted out for decades and never had any movement towards implementing. I've got news for you: it won't work and was never meant to work. Palestine was divided up the way it was specifically to make it unworkable. The only solution that will work is a one-state solution where everyone is treated equally and the rights of all are protected, instead of this apartheid ethnostate that is being supported.

Sandalorn posted...

Hint : He's actually not. He just likes to pound his chest on gamefaqs.

If me "pounding my chest" against genocide means I don't care, then what does you defending a pro-genocide stance mean?

Tmaster148 posted...

The best way to protest genocide is help the guy who has straight up said he'll commit genocide get elected.

Nobody said this. Try arguing with what is being said rather than the strawmen you've constructed in your mind.

Tmaster148 posted...

Everything is pointless, so let's just give up and let a Fascism regime take over and make everything worse!

No, I still do vote and take action where I can, but I'm not going to pretend it's actually doing anything and I'm certainly not going to scream at others for daring to protest against genocide.

Cemith posted...

[post quoting only the words "both parties" from my post and then inserting a pointless image]

Are both parties not supporting israel in their campaign of genocide? Clarify for me how "both parties" is wrong here. It seems like you're just reacting out of instinct to the two key words without understanding what they mean, as if you were trained to shut down and scream at the mere sight of them.

Tmaster148 posted...

With that kind of attitude it's not a surprise you're not accomplishing anything.

You yourself have argued that nothing can be accomplished in regards to genocide because both parties support it. Thanks for agreeing with me. Again, when it comes down to it, moneyed interests win out and the things they don't care which direction they end up (trans rights, reproductive rights, etc) are merely bargaining chips that are always on the table and move back and forth to pretend progress is being made. So you're not accomplishing anything either and arguably voting does nothing but slightly delay the inevitable fascism that capitalism always ends up in.

Tmaster148 posted...

If you are really concerned about this, you should be starting locally. Get local Mayors/Governors/Representatives into power that share your ideals. Vote on ballot measures to help make it possible for 3rd parties to win like how a few states have ranked choice ballot measures this election.

Sitting around every 4 years to only get upset the current democrat party doesn't support your interests fully to only protest vote and effectively throw away any voice you may have had is not helping.

We can't afford a Trump presidency which means Harris must win. There's no other option.

We are already working locally, but this takes a long time and Palestine will be wiped out before then. If it's not, this work doesn't necessarily mean action will be taken. We've all seen the response to student protests. When it comes down to it, moneyed interests will always win out.

wackyteen posted...

When in a first past the post system, refusing to vote or convincing other people to not vote for Trump's opponent is in essence the same as supporting Trump.

I wish we had an in-place alternative system.

But the reality is if you sit by and don't do the bare minimum (read: voting) to oppose the worse enemy to your cause, you become at least mildly complicit in their actions. At minimum, you're stating you didn't care enough to speak your mind when it is deemed to actively matter.

They're not meaning to promote Trump but the effects of their actions are in essence the same

Driving down to the root of the issue, both parties are bought out by moneyed interests. Democrats will always interpret voting as they like. Even if they lose because of anti-genocide protests, they will instead pretend the issue is that they didn't appeal to "moderates" enough. Additionally, democrats and republicans play off of each other. Republicans point at democrats as if they were socialist so that they can move to the right and democrats point to republicans as being worse so that democrats can get away with keeping the status quo (or moving to the right slowly). This is why people say both sides are the same, even if they are not the *exact* same.

The problem is that things will only keep getting worse with this pattern as the moneyed interests squeeze people harder and harder. At the critical point when the people cannot stand it any longer, the moneyed interests will push for fascism and democrats will go along with it. We can see this happen in history where liberal "moderates" always yield to fascism rather than actually work for the people, because their moneyed backers would rather fascism than giving up any bit of wealth.

I don't understand how people can pretend democrats are saving anything when they refuse to budge on key issues, when their leadership repeatedly state that we *need* a strong republican party, and when the party cozies up to vile war criminals like george bush and dick cheney.

If democrats are not only okay with permitting genocide but actually actively supporting it, what makes you think they won't turn on you in other ways if the moneyed interests so desire? Genocide is the lowest of the low and supporting it shows that there is no low they aren't willing to sink down to.

wackyteen posted...

The ones who are anti-genocide but are actively taking a position that will unequivocally lead to the full expansion and escalation of the genocide they're against.

Its a really weird and funny way to be anti-genocide but actively doing the most effective pro-genocide thing they can do.

Criticizing the people in power who are doing nothing to stop a genocide isn't the same as supporting trump. You can point to some people taking advantage of the situation to promote trump, but that does not invalidate the entire anti-genocide movement.

McMarbles posted...

They do not actually care about Palestinians. They care about publically masturbating over their moral purity.

Are you talking about the people who are anti-genocide or the democrats who are pro-genocide but use other minorities to project moral superiority with "but think of these other groups we're using as pawns to continue supporting genocide!!!!"?

SAlYAN posted...

No, the solution is to point out that 9ne side will continue to allow activism

You mean like when they shut down the campus protests? Now imagine what they'd do if it wasn't just a bunch of students on school campuses. Imagine if it gained momentum and power. You're only allowed to carry out activism if it doesn't threaten the interests of those in power. That's worth nothing and you're only fooling yourself if you think this makes a difference.

SAlYAN posted...

For better or worse, there IS NO ACTION on Nov 5th that will immediately stop the gaza genocide. None whatsoever.

There were many actions that could have been carried out from a year ago until now that would have immediately stopped the genocide, but biden elected to instead send billions more in support of the genocide. It could stop now, but democrats simply don't want to do it and you're defending them for supporting genocide.

The solution to genocide isn't to point that other people would do genocide harder. The solution is to stop it. People here pointing out that "trump is worse" thinking they're some logical masterminds are failing to understand that getting away with crimes, especially ones as heinous as genocide, by simply pointing out that things could be worse means that things will only continue to get worse because you can always point at something even worse. The benchmark keeps moving and will continue to move as long as you permit it with this bullshit. There is a reason why it's "never again" and not "we'll permit it if you can point to someone else who could carry it out in an even worse manner"

R_Jackal posted...

And another return slipping under the radar, although it wasn't really announced either best I can tell: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_71bhU7P4-w

Probably because people were already aware of this channel for a long time, it's just that she doesn't stream often. It's been so long since I've heard her voice, I do feel good hearing her again.

rexcrk posted...

We had a few 80-degree days last week (when it should be in like the 50s - 60s this time of year) and so many people were all oMg iTs So NiCe OuT when its like.. no. Just stop. There is nothing nice about global warming.

It's okay to recognize the silver lining in the cloudy skies, as long as we recognize the cloudy skies.

The election itself I don't think much about because I already voted and media is only interested in making it seem like a close race whether or not it actually is, so I can't exactly gain any insight by tuning in.

Yes, but only because lunch and dinner are superior, not because breakfast is bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4PGmryH8Qw

Calli's 3.0 on now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJpiE-ypjnI

LightSnake posted...

Brush, it wasn't 'withdrawing from Iraq,' it was literally the US stepping aside from an expected attack on our allies

LightSnake, I never supported stepping aside specifically for the Kurds to get attacked. Given what I've told you right here, this should be obvious, yet you continue to twist things. Stop playing games.

LightSnake posted...

Help me understand

LightSnake posted...

You supported when Trump cut support to Kurds

1337toothbrush posted...

don't paint my support for withdrawing from Iraq as support for abandoning Kurds

You're clearly not trying to understand anything with your sealioning.

Tmaster148 posted...

The one thing I've noticed is all these people have such a hardline stance against Harris over Palestine, but constantly ignore everyway Trump is worse. I went through the topic about Trump saying he wishes he had the same generals that Hitler had and guess who I didn't see post once in them.

At the end of the day, these people whether intentional or unintentional are helping Trump win.

Could you stop using whataboutism to excuse support for genocide, please? Trump being worse doesn't make democrats good.

LightSnake posted...

Never once did you say Trump funding the deaths of over a hundred thousand people was a dealbreaker. something about 2016 snapped you and not for the better.

Please stop trying to bait me. Stop misrepresenting my views and who I support. I do not support trump and never did.

LightSnake posted...

I'm going to ask again, Brush. Where was this stance against Trump when he funded genocide in Yemen or when he opened the Kurds to slaughter from Turkey? Where was it against Assad supporters?

Why is this the one and only human rights atrocity you seem to care about? You were, as I recall, very happy when Trump withdrew US support from the Kurds despite the clear consequences.

I started writing about my positions on those things and got a paragraph in until I stopped myself. I'm not going to entertain your whataboutism. Like I've said in other topics, I'm not playing your games anymore. Nice try, though.

By the way, don't paint my support for withdrawing from Iraq as support for abandoning Kurds, that's being disingenuous. Would you like it if I came into topics not related to Iraq and claimed you love forever wars since you didn't want to withdraw from Iraq?

Tmaster148 posted...

Trump is literally campaigning with Nazis. Do you think Nazis should be disqualifying, because it doesn't seem like it.

It is disqualifying, which is why I chose it as an example. Harris is campaigning with neocons and genocidal-apartheid-enthostate-supporting assholes. This should be alarming, but you don't seem to care.

Tmaster148 posted...

Uncommitted had their chance to work with Harris over this issue, but they ruined it by going out of their way to burn any bridge of goodwill between them by interrupting rallies and attacking her when she had shown openness to talks. I'm not sure why you are so surprised that Harris has decided to work with a different group of people who are more willing to help her win the election.

They were antagonized from the start. People were shrieking that they were making trump win by merely marking uncommitted on a ballot during a primary where biden was the only candidate with any chance of winning. When such a mild act is treated as an earth-ending move, then it's obvious democrats were never serious about working together, no matter how much their asses were kissed and no matter how nicely they were asked to stop supporting genocide.

Tanthalas posted...

Again, because Ritchie Torres campaigns for Harris that means shes bad?

And yeah, it is a purity test.

It's about who she chooses to associate with and what sort of image she wants to project. Why pick a rabidly pro-israel politician to campaign in Michigan when it's such a touchy subject? Why associate with the likes of dick cheney? Would you not raise a stink if Harris was campaigning with outright nazis?