Board 8 > Diablo 3 to feature an auction house where you can use REAL money.

(+) Yeah! (+)

http://pc.ign.com/articles/118/1185020p1.html
Welp, I honestly have to say my interest just took a heavy dive.
Come on, Torchlight 2!

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The system is Blizzard's way of taking ownership over the black markets that tend to pop up around item-based games.

I figured those stupid bots would eventially screw with diablo

they gave Blizzard dumb-itis

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Eh, don't see anything wrong with this. After the proliferation of DLC and stuff, we're too far down this path. It honestly doesn't sound too different from DLC anyway.

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Worth noting for folks who don't look at the screens or anything that you can buy CHARACTERS on this auction house as well.
http://pc.ign.com/articles/118/1185029p1.html
Also the game's going to require being connected online at all times, and there's a 10 character limit.

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....Goddamnit Blizzard


what the hell are you doing.

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Haha

I'm not even a Blizzard fan but I'm still pretty sure that Activision is the one who's actually balls deep in this mess.

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lol activision doing what it does best, being a cancerous blight

I lost interested long ago. Now I'm kind of glad I'm not looking forward to it.
At least I still have D2...

Is this mandatory in the slightest?

If no(and chances are it isn't) it doesn't effect your experience and you have no reason to whine.

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From: OctilIery | #009
Is this mandatory in the slightest?

If no(and chances are it isn't) it doesn't effect your experience and you have no reason to whine.

Also the game's going to require being connected online at all times, and there's a 10 character limit.

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i don't really care too deeply about this. if someone wants to pay to get ahead, that is their choice, and if it helps the game company too, so be it. for someone like me who is low on money and likes to play games, it might even be a way to make a slight bit of monies. there are still plenty of unknowns that will be worked out, but as it is stated so far, it looks like it might actually be a good thing in the long term, probably not nearly as horrible as this board wants to make it out to be...

at least it isn't gambling :p

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KimPilgrim posted...

Also the game's going to require being connected online at all times, and there's a 10 character limit.

Neither of those are really going to hurt me(or most gamers) all that much.

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Knowing Diablo, that 10 character limit is going to piss off a lot of people

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WoW players developed their own economy, exchanging real money for characters and in-game gold. Blizzard is just giving the people what they want while pocketing some of the IRL loot for themselves. Doesn't seem bad to me.

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Diablo 3 will require a persistent Internet connection to play/has always online DRM

Welp, nevermind

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http://pc.ign.com/articles/118/1185037p1.html
Apparently you don't allot points to skills anymore either. You just get them once and they scale with you. Wonder if they trashed the skill system in favor of the WoW-esque talent tree.

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Also the game's going to require being connected online at all times

and here i thought people learned this was f'ing dumb when Ubisoft did it with AC2.
short answer: by the day after release, it won't be. one way or another.

i give it a month before they cave officially and go the exact same route.

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Worth noting for folks who don't look at the screens or anything that you can buy CHARACTERS on this auction house as well.
http://pc.ign.com/articles/118/1185029p1.html
Also the game's going to require being connected online at all times, and there's a 10 character limit.

K so I have no reason to buy it then. I knew this was going to happen. Let's keep this bumped until Ulti sees it so he can blame Activision like the rest of us.

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and here i thought people learned this was f'ing dumb when Ubisoft did it with AC2.

They did?:
http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/07/28/ubisoft-our-drm-is-a-success/

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None of this affects me negatively in any way.

Bring on Diablo 3!

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haha, no. ubisoft's just willing to bs the fact that they got their servers wrecked, it was cracked in a day,

and they initially denied all that or pretended it was something positive ('oh a lot of traffic on our servers MUST MEAN A LOT OF BUYERS').

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/assassinscreed2/news/6253104/pc-assassins-creed-ii-stumbles-on-ubisoft-drm-server-snafu

and there was most certainly no reduction of piracy for AC2 either. that's just them talking out their asses to an imaginary fairy as i've no idea how in the hell they'd get those figures. just checked to see how Brotherhood's doing on the main torrent site everyone knows. doin' better than black ops and crysis 2. short version goes Ubi tries to sound good. to give the rundown of how AC2 went:

- released in europe.
- cracked day 1. ubisoft claimed it the crack was something 'incomplete.'
- server emulator within a week to mimic their system entirely.
- cracked fully in a month.

....so uh... can't say it worked in terms of stopping the damage. and certainly can't say it stopped people downloading it seeing how big a torrent was in general all around that was, by no means, a small quantity of people.

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I knew they'd screw it up somehow.

It wouldn't surprise me if their DRM turned out to be completely ineffective. However, they must be seeing some sort of benefit from it if they are going with it again despite what seemed to be a failure in their previous attempt.

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jesus the future of gaming is horrible. Gaming seriously has gone down the ****er these past 5 to 7 years.

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Team Rocket Elite posted...
It wouldn't surprise me if their DRM turned out to be completely ineffective. However, they must be seeing some sort of benefit from it if they are going with it again despite what seemed to be a failure in their previous attempt.

I wouldn't bet on it. These big companies are just trending off of each other and it creates a big pool of stupidity. These are the same people trying to get rid of used games. You know, part of what helps drive the market and enables people to check out types of games that they otherwise wouldn't. They just want to control everything and this trend will continue and what we're already seeing and what we'll continue to see are companies that aren't quite big enough, no longer being able to compete with the huge companies. I guess one good thing to come out of this will be an influx of indie games.

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Demon HunterX posted...
jesus the future of gaming is horrible. Gaming seriously has gone down the ****er these past 5 to 7 years.

Hearing people say this kind of stuff always cracks me up.

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From: Demon HunterX | #027
jesus the future of gaming is horrible. Gaming seriously has gone down the ****er these past 5 to 7 years.

Gaming's fine, but I will say that horribly stupid stuff like this didn't exist 5 years ago.

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I wouldn't bet on it. These big companies are just trending off of each other and it creates a big pool of stupidity. These are the same people trying to get rid of used games. You know, part of what helps drive the market and enables people to check out types of games that they otherwise wouldn't. They just want to control everything and this trend will continue and what we're already seeing and what we'll continue to see are companies that aren't quite big enough, no longer being able to compete with the huge companies. I guess one good thing to come out of this will be an influx of indie games.

this. Gaming has pretty much become a few companies controlling everything, and then indie developers. I like super meat boy as much as the next guy, but i mean indie games suffer from being quite primitive.

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What is up with the 10 characters limit? why?

I have a friend that Diablo 2 is his favorite game and he considers it best game ever
He has like 30 or more characters each one with a different role and skills

Hearing people say this kind of stuff always cracks me up.

it always cracks me up that uneducated people think everything is fine until its way too late

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Oh come now, doomsaying like that is just silly.
It's hard to say gaming's dying when Catherine came out a week ago and EVO just ended with a better showing than ever before. Nevermind the fact that there's still quite a few good, quality companies, as well as a TON who still put out great games. Activision (and now by extension Blizzard) are bad, but to say they control the industry or are even a standard for it is nutty.

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Xiahou Shake posted...
Oh come now, doomsaying like that is just silly.
It's hard to say gaming's dying when Catherine came out a week ago and EVO just ended with a better showing than ever before. Nevermind the fact that there's still quite a few good, quality companies, as well as a TON who still put out great games. Activision (and now by extension Blizzard) are bad, but to say they control the industry or are even a standard for it is nutty.


Don't bother trying to argue with him. He's the guy that insists there hasn't been a good game since PS2 in half of the topics he posts in.

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From: StealThisSheen | #035
Don't bother trying to argue with him. He's the guy that insists there hasn't been a good game since PS2 in half of the topics he posts in.

Haha, really? Alright then.

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Demon HunterX posted...
Hearing people say this kind of stuff always cracks me up.

it always cracks me up that uneducated people think everything is fine until its way too late

Are you listening to yourself? "Too late"? You're talking about video games here. An industry that has been constantly evolving for 20+ years. If you think this is the beginning of any sort of end, you're just being silly.

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i'd sooner associate it with they're trying to convince themselves that it's working more than anything else. nobody likes it, the piracy's high, and it's already been proven ineffective - both as a means to not crack the game (very first game like this in a month 100%, in a day to playable form) and the system used (server emulator, which... is honestly the easier of the two to fool the game with, and thus quicker).


as for this situation, i'd sooner bet Blizzard did more of this than Activision. they definitely are behind the auction house ideas after WoW. the drm that part i'm not sure. doubt 10 characters limit stays though, can easily see them raise it in later expansion packs (only it seems they've the decency/foresight to not also go 'hey we're 3 parting this game' this time). but that drm is just weird. can see Blizzard just because of WoW and they might go 'well this many people went on the MMO soo...". though i'd also assume they know better too, ditto for Activision staying out of Blizzard's way. just weird.

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*sigh*

its mentalities like this which caused the us economy to crash too.

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StealThisSheen posted...
Don't bother trying to argue with him. He's the guy that insists there hasn't been a good game since PS2 in half of the topics he posts in.

Ah okay, it all makes sense now.

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wait, why does anyone care about this always online thing?

why would you play Diablo offline anyway?

gross

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Called it.

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From: Anagram | #045
I'm kind of surprised Ulti hasn't shown up yet to say "Called it."

I think he's asleep.
I'm sure he'll snap awake tomorrow and feel this thread's presence.

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Shoenin_Kakashi posted...
The system is Blizzard's way of taking ownership over the black markets that tend to pop up around item-based games.

I figured those stupid bots would eventially screw with diablo

they gave Blizzard dumb-itis



uhh


diablo 2 INVENTED online black market trading...

have you ever heard of d2jsp?


It really makes sense for them to do this.... otherwise d2jsp is going to move in and do it anyways completely unregulated by then.


I don't really like it but oh well.



wtf @ the people complaining about always having to be connected. That's an issue for Starcraft 2 for LAN's and stuff.... but gross @ wanting to play Diablo offline...

Really, all the people that are all OMG THIS NEWS IM NOT GOING TO PLAY NOW just don't make any sense.


They are enabling players to sell eachother items for real life money? Guess what, people do that in Diablo 2 EVERY DAY.

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I'm kind of surprised Ulti hasn't shown up yet to say "Called it."
I think he's asleep.
I'm sure he'll snap awake tomorrow and feel this thread's presence.

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Are you listening to yourself? "Too late"? You're talking about video games here. An industry that has been constantly evolving for 20+ years. If you think this is the beginning of any sort of end, you're just being silly.

the US economy was evolving for a couple hundred years and from reagan to bush 43 we saw it get destroyed.

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XFD Called it!

I can't believe you guys didn't think Activision was out to ruin gaming. Whatever turns a buck, they couldn't care less about what the average consumer thinks. And they know people will do it, because Nintendo made an entire generation of suckers out of the casual market with their complete joke of a system. Gamers are stuck to whatever the whim of companies like Capcom and Activision want, and they're complete sheep that will just further their cause.

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yeah, how is this a big deal? They just made it so stuff that already happened, can now happen through them, and they can get a cut. I don't think this will actually affect most people's experience with the game.

I don't even like Diablo games, and I don't get the whining at all.

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