Board 8 > League of Legends Topic 23: "Our rage is beyond your control!"

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Pretty much, but I fully expec to see Peaf, and most other Nid players, RAAAAAAAAAGE hard because she just lost 0.55 off E's AP ratio, so it now isn't tremendously stupid.

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1.25 AP ratio on a 190 base heal. That was ridiculous and i'm so glad they fixed it.

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Her Q and E were the only things going for her, previously.
Cougar mode was great at level 6 through 9, (assuming you're solo-laning and staying ahead of the level curve) but was useless past then unless you're just clearing a minion wave (or running away).
And speaking of running away - Pounce used to be on a 2 second CD, constant, unaffected by CDR. They said they're increasing from 3 to 3.5, which is awful. Even at 40% CDR, I'd prefer my constant 2 seconds (I might have to start building some CDR on her now though, because that heal nerf is insane).

Lowering the mana cost of Q is great, as long as they don't nerf its damage, IMO.

Making Cougar Mode actually worth something is wonderful, so once we get past mid-game I will no longer be dedicated to "stay in human mode unless when running away, and just spam Q W and E when they're off of CD".

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It has saved your life so many times Realo!


Though yes, me being able to outlane someone else when all I have is a DRing (and prioritizing E) at level 8 when I've made them go back 3 times (so they have way better items than me) and I'm sitting at 3k gold is a little silly.

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Cougar mode will still suck. Nid will be an incredibly relentless pusher now though, and she can still poke like a pro.

PS: Buy a Morello's after deathcap and don't get a rageblade peaf. Enjoy Pounce on a 2.1 sec CD plus spears all day erryday. Get a lich afterward and bask in your awesome megapusher glory.

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Also, doubling Swipe's AP ratio is HUGE.

Previously, to clear caster minions at level 6, I had to first lay a trap on the middle one, then pounce, hit all 3, angle myself correctly so my E would hit them all, then use my E. A .2 AP ratio on an offensive move is retarded, plain and simple.

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KanzarisKelshen posted...
Cougar mode will still suck. Nid will be an incredibly relentless pusher now though, and she can still poke like a pro.

PS: Buy a Morello's after deathcap and don't get a rageblade peaf. Enjoy Pounce on a 2.1 sec CD plus spears all day erryday. Get a lich afterward and bask in your awesome megapusher glory.

I usually never get RageBlade unless I'm low on cash and can't get a Lich or a Rabadon's.

And yes, I was planning on Morello's. I used to get Fiendish first on Nidalee until I realized that early Rabadon's is huge on her. I'm thinking DRing>Boots>Rabadons>Mercs>Fiendish>Sheen>Morello's>Lich will be most ideal on her.


As for being a relentless pusher, I'm extremely disappointed that they didn't increase the AS boost while nerfing the heal.

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Did we really need a new assassin?

Especially one that reminds me a lot of Nocturne?

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The AS boost is amazing already. Miss Fortune is a pure-damage carry and she gets a smaller boost than that!

But yeah, that build looks solid. I'd probably go with Sorcs instead and finish Morello's ASAP, but it's up to taste.

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Peace___Frog posted...
Did we really need a new assassin?

Especially one that reminds me a lot of Nocturne?

This guy is more like Vayne tbh. He doesn't have Nocturne's stupid megajump, his stupid fear, or the general stupidity of having, what, three different roiding boosts and three nukes? Gonna be really fun I think, if hard to play without feeding.

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Nidalee isn't much of a 1v1 champ, but the Cougar Mode buffs make it so she won't be so bad at it. We'll have to see how sustainable the new Nid is, but if I 1v2 lane against two melees, I should be able to kill each of them once I hit 6, assuming I can keep myself at full HP and chip them down to about 2/3, or preferably 1/2.

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But Vayne is really just all roids, this guy actually has abilities!

As for Sorcs, meh. It might be worth it now that Cougar mode can do damage to things besides minions, and with Q having a lower mana cost and shorter CD. I'm going to be doing a lot of experimenting once those changes go live, that's for sure.

As for finishing Morello's before Sheen - again, it will come down to experimenting a lot, but I feel that by that point in the game, Sheen's passive will be very useful.

Miss Fortune can do a lot more damage to a tower than Nidalee can. >_>

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You'd be surprised! Obviously nid can't deal as much damage normally, but with max CDR and lich she'll bulldoze towers. In general, the fastest pushers are superfed AD carries, then lichbane users, then normal carries, then other guys.

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Don't get me wrong Peaf, I loved having your heal when I went Nasus because lol 700 heal plus my ult is like an extra guardian angel. But it's kinda ridiculous just how long you could stay in lane with just a D Ring and still dominate. Also the Spear is just funny to me. Watching it damn near wipe a squishy is hilarious.

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Yi is clearly the number one turret destroyer but who's number 2: Sivir or Nasus. Sivir gets the 90 percent attack speed but Nasus can pop them for stupid high damage.

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Sivir of course. Nasus is not nearly as pushy as siv unless he's got sixty minutes of farm.

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Yeah easily Sivir.

Sivir can push turrets like it's nothing from level 6.

Nasus can push harder I guess, 40 minutes in, with a ton of farm...

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Nah, Sivir would still outfarm him by 300 creeps at that point. Maybe 200 minutes in!

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See I take Nasus because he's the safer push. You send one person to fight Nasus and you better bring a body bag. You can send one person and absolutely stop Sivir. Plus Nasus can over extend and not have to waste summoner spells to escape.

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TheConductorSix posted...
See I take Nasus because he's the safer push. You send one person to fight Nasus and you better bring a body bag. You can send one person and absolutely stop Sivir. Plus Nasus can over extend and not have to waste summoner spells to escape.

You're playing Sivir wrong, or you think Sivir is way weaker than she actually is. You will not defeat pusher Siv alone unless you got fed thirty kills because her Q nukes for 800 damage and each of her autos hits like a truck.

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Nasus really shouldn't even be in consideration for best pusher. He basically becomes a lich bane user as far as pushing goes once farmed. I'd say Eve is better at pushing towers than he is <_<

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I O_o'd at the javelin buffs

so now I get to lose half my HP even more frequently

yeah, but the damage you deal actually does something now!

Nidalee's HP bar is no longer blue...

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they tried making Nidalee more offense-based, as opposed to a plain support


Looking at the other supports, they're doing the same things there. Lowering their pure supporting powers, and enhancing their offensive powers.

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Lopen posted...
Nasus really shouldn't even be in consideration for best pusher. He basically becomes a lich bane user as far as pushing goes once farmed. I'd say Eve is better at pushing towers than he is <_<

Nasus is a good early lane pusher. His AOE is helpful for clearing out minions, and if he can get in some hits on the tower, his Q makes them count for something.

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Uh what? When does Sivir's Q do that much? Who's actually getting hit twice by that thing? Half of it scales off of AP. And Lopen, Nasus and Triforce means mid game he's popping turrets for 110 plus 120 plus your attack damage times the 150 percent bonus from triforce every 5 seconds. He's no Yi but he's definitely one of the top tier turret destroyers.

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Why is yi so good at pushing, anyway?

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Peace___Frog posted...
Why is yi so good at pushing, anyway?

80% AS boost, 70 AD boost, 60% chance to oneshot creeps, gets extra attacks every few hits. Literally everything but Meditate boosts towerpushing enormously.

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Peace___Frog posted...
Why is yi so good at pushing, anyway?

Highlander.

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TheConductorSix posted...
Uh what? When does Sivir's Q do that much? Who's actually getting hit twice by that thing? Half of it scales off of AP. And Lopen, Nasus and Triforce means mid game he's popping turrets for 110 plus 120 plus your attack damage times the 150 percent bonus from triforce every 5 seconds. He's no Yi but he's definitely one of the top tier turret destroyers.

When you face a melee. If they don't chase you just pepper them with shots and keep pushing. If you're facing a ranged character just chase him and teach him the meaning of pain.

Also, it's not "plus your attack damage". It's "plus your BASE attack damage". Big difference.

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Oh my god, Nocturne AND Vlad on sale this week?

Man that's good.

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Ghostblade plus highlander plus wuju equals good bye turret. And Kan, Nasus' base damage with Triforce is pretty high already. Point is, near 500 damage Qs every 5 seconds mid game is a pretty big deal. Plus he's hard to one on one. Even if you can he's got more move speed than you and the game's dumbest slow.

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Not saying it isn't, I just think that's got nothing on Sivir because by midgame she'll have two bloodthirsters, at least one of them fully farmed up, and will hit the tower one and a half times a second for like 250 damage!

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Started playing ranked matches to get the Kayle skin. Played 6 so far, just got 18 of my total 29 kills in that last one game... Funny how much of a difference it makes when you aren't on tank/support duty!

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Luis_Sera89 posted...
Started playing ranked matches to get the Kayle skin. Played 6 so far, just got 18 of my total 29 kills in that last one game... Funny how much of a difference it makes when you aren't on tank/support duty!

I thought the matches could be anything? It has to be ranked?

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It's just anything.

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Could I play ten bot games right now, then, and get Kayle's skin? I've heard that if you don't own Kayle, she'll also be rewarded to you.

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Could I play ten bot games right now, then, and get Kayle's skin? I've heard that if you don't own Kayle, she'll also be rewarded to you.

If you've already played 10 matches of anything (ranked, normal, bot, whatever) you should be eligible for it.

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wait, what's this about a kayle skin?

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Oh right, no worries then.

wait, what's this about a kayle skin?

A special Judgement Kayle skin is being given for people who played at least 10 matches in Season 1.

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Kayle skin is anything, exclusive Jarvan skin is what requires a certain ELO, I'm pretty sure.

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oh
even if you don't own her?

cool

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Jarvan requires gold rating.

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Lux is so much goddamn fun, I wish she'd been on rotation earlier so I'd have known.

Poking
CCing
Supporting
Rushing Deathcapping

Just played a game where I laned with a Xin Zhao. I don't know much about her yet, but it's like she was made for that.

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Kog free week too fun. I can do 5 different builds with him and they all work. Lately i've been running the Malady/Cleaver build and bombing everything. Also, why do people put Merc Treads on Singed. I'll never get it. Swiftys are so much more valuable to him. If the enemy team is ccing Singed they're dumb.

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Lux is so much goddamn fun, I wish she'd been on rotation earlier so I'd have known.

Poking
CCing
Supporting
Rushing Deathcapping

Just played a game where I laned with a Xin Zhao. I don't know much about her yet, but it's like she was made for that.

It's hard to poke against really good people. Unless you're following up your spells with an auto attack, then early game, it's not quite worth the mana you spend.

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I played my first Lux game ever today. I got Mejais because I never see HGR die. Ever. Getting twenty stacks with her doesn't even seem to take effort. When enemies got close to minions I would just E them and auto attack and make them burn through their potions. I main Morgana so I know how to make mana last early game. Her spells just have so much range. It's nuts. I took on a 2 on 1 lane, beat them to 6 and just double snared E ulted for first blood double kill. That ult is just terrific.

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HGR, any suggestions for Lux masteries? And do my AD carry runes more-or-less work (ArPen reds, Mreg/level blues, flat CDR yellows, HP quints), other than the ArPen (what should I replace that with?)?

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CCing Singed can be really annoying if they have AoE stuff or stuff you don't need to really put much effort into to CC him. Like Ashe for instance is annoying as hell. Or a dude with frozen mallet, or something. But yeah the smarter thing is just to get a tenacity item that aren't merc treads there if that's a problem.

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