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Biolizard28
08/18/11 2:48:00 PM
#301:


Peace___Frog posted...
Trying to make the game less of a farmfest, that's my guess.
Look at the Dominion game - supports kind of have little place there, because that mode is centered on small 1v1, 2v2, or 3v3 skirmishes.


I don't see how nerfing supports solves that problem. Hell, there's still an entire spot in the metagame dedicated to a team member who farms neutral minions so top can farm BETTER.

KanzarisKelshen posted...
Be more like Vengeful Specter basically.

Do tell.

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Justin_Crossing
08/18/11 2:52:00 PM
#302:


Dominion also has a 20% global healing reduction (lifesteal, sustain, etc.)

Well Zileas said he was 95% sure this was in place.

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KanzarisKelshen
08/18/11 2:54:00 PM
#303:


Biolizard28 posted...
Peace___Frog posted...
Trying to make the game less of a farmfest, that's my guess.
Look at the Dominion game - supports kind of have little place there, because that mode is centered on small 1v1, 2v2, or 3v3 skirmishes.

I don't see how nerfing supports solves that problem. Hell, there's still an entire spot in the metagame dedicated to a team member who farms neutral minions so top can farm BETTER.

KanzarisKelshen posted...
Be more like Vengeful Specter basically.

Do tell.


A mid range semi-long point and click stun, a spammable AoE wave skill, a sweet damage increasing aura that increased damage by 36%, and then Urgot's ult, except on roids. At its best you had it every 10 seconds, it could swap allies AND enemies, AND stopped channels just 'cause. Basically aggressive support instead of "lulz permahealz".

PS: Also, the name was Vengeful Spirit, sorry. My bad!

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Peace___Frog
08/18/11 2:57:00 PM
#304:


Nerfing supports reduces sustainability. Reducing sustainability means you can't just heal right up after taking a lot of damage, which means things will move at a faster pace.

Or something like that.

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Justin_Crossing
08/18/11 2:58:00 PM
#305:


It means you have to also choose when to heal at the right time instead of just being able to spam it.

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Biolizard28
08/18/11 2:59:00 PM
#306:


That's still just one lane though. Outside of the laning phase, is healing really considered that big of a deal?

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Peace___Frog
08/18/11 3:02:00 PM
#307:


Yes.
You have never played against a team including Nidalee and Alistar. Kind of ridiculous.

I cannot tell you how many times, as Nidalee, I have saved teammates in teamfights and they ended up living, simply because I healed them for 600 damage when the enemy wasn't expecting it.

Healing is huge. Most healers can only heal a little bit at a time, so they spam it a lot to make healing build up.

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Biolizard28
08/18/11 3:26:00 PM
#308:


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Yessssssss

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Peace___Frog
08/18/11 3:34:00 PM
#309:


The mejais isn't helping Lux very much!

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Biolizard28
08/18/11 4:36:00 PM
#310:


Die less or kill more, then!

That's how it works.

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Justin_Crossing
08/18/11 5:02:00 PM
#311:


i am just

so done with this game

until soraka is nerfed into the ****ing ground

i have never seen anything drain the fun out of a game that is fun more than soraka has for me

GO BOT LANE

TRY TO POKE

OUTSUSTAIN

oh my god i am just so ****ing excited for the sustain nerfs

holy ****ing **** soraka is just anti-fun

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Biolizard28
08/18/11 5:07:00 PM
#312:


You know what's anti-fun?

Low ELO

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Gwindor
08/18/11 5:08:00 PM
#313:


more like you're being punished for bad team comp

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Biolizard28
08/18/11 5:11:00 PM
#314:


Gwindor posted...
more like you're being punished for bad team comp

Have you ever tried to make good team comp in solo queue?

Unless your ELO is amazing, you're better off just playing an AP carry every game.

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HanOfTheNekos
08/18/11 5:54:00 PM
#315:


Peace___Frog posted...
The mejais isn't helping Lux very much!

I just never build Mejais on Lux.

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Justin_Crossing
08/18/11 5:58:00 PM
#316:


From: Gwindor | #313
more like you're being punished for bad team comp


yeah sorry that taric caitlyn is such a terrible bottom lane

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Biolizard28
08/18/11 5:58:00 PM
#317:


Frankly, I never build Mejais on any damage dealer except Katarina.

Mejais is a staple in my Sona builds, as well as my other supports, though.

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08/18/11 6:48:00 PM
#318:


What AP items should I get as Lux after rushing Deathcap?

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Colegreen_c12
08/18/11 7:02:00 PM
#319:


void staff maybe.
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HanOfTheNekos
08/18/11 7:40:00 PM
#320:


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What AP items should I get as Lux after rushing Deathcap?

Hourglass can be useful if your game is close enough that people might be putting in the effort to dive through your team to get to you in team fights.

Lich Bane wouldn't be bad for a newer Lux player if the other team has only melee.

Morello's is the only CDR item I ever buy on Lux, if even.

uh..


So yeah. Deathcap, Void Staff, Sorc boots, then DEATHCAPS GALORE

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Justin_Crossing
08/18/11 7:44:00 PM
#321:


I go Doran's -> Boots -> Doran's -> Sorc Shoes -> Mejai's -> Rabadon's -> Void Staff -> Lich Bane religiously. HGR cuts out the second Doran's and the mejai's.

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Colegreen_c12
08/18/11 7:57:00 PM
#322:


its because mejais isnt a good item.
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KanzarisKelshen
08/18/11 8:04:00 PM
#323:


People who tell you that are dumb. Also you don't want more than one doran's unless the enemy team is diving you literally all game. It's not a comeback item on lux.

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Biolizard28
08/18/11 8:06:00 PM
#324:


By the way, what's a good starting set for vlad? Tome and a health pot?

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HanOfTheNekos
08/18/11 8:19:00 PM
#325:


I think I found my second AD carry!

I can see why Sytha loves this girl so much.

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08/18/11 9:00:00 PM
#326:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
I think I found my second AD carry!

I can see why Sytha loves this girl so much.


I love Caitlyn, and I love her skins (she's the only AD ranged carry with consistently good skins), and I wish I could buy her, but since I already have MF, Ashe, and Sivir, I just can't justify it to myself.

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08/18/11 9:06:00 PM
#327:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
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What AP items should I get as Lux after rushing Deathcap?

Hourglass can be useful if your game is close enough that people might be putting in the effort to dive through your team to get to you in team fights.

Lich Bane wouldn't be bad for a newer Lux player if the other team has only melee.

Morello's is the only CDR item I ever buy on Lux, if even.

uh..


So yeah. Deathcap, Void Staff, Sorc boots, then DEATHCAPS GALORE


Thanks for the help. I'm always kind of lost after Sorc Boots/Deathcap.

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HanOfTheNekos
08/18/11 9:09:00 PM
#328:


Anagram posted...
HanOfTheNekos posted...
Anagram posted...
What AP items should I get as Lux after rushing Deathcap?

Hourglass can be useful if your game is close enough that people might be putting in the effort to dive through your team to get to you in team fights.

Lich Bane wouldn't be bad for a newer Lux player if the other team has only melee.

Morello's is the only CDR item I ever buy on Lux, if even.

uh..


So yeah. Deathcap, Void Staff, Sorc boots, then DEATHCAPS GALORE

Thanks for the help. I'm always kind of lost after Sorc Boots/Deathcap.



I wasn't being completely serious with the stacking of Deathcaps.

It's generally good to get a defensive item. Ergo, I build Zhonya's, or Banshee Veil/Abyssal Scepter.

Abyssal's aura is a bit hard to justify when you're playing Lux though.

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HeroicGammaRay
08/18/11 9:16:00 PM
#329:


yeah the items after deathcap are all 'suboptimal' in some sense

-void staff is definitely the go-to option against mr but you sometimes get bad teams that don't build any at all
-paying for defense on hourglass is often a waste. when i get this item i find that i almost never have reason to use the active unless my teammates are all dead/dying already. maybe if they really feel like diving for you.
-lich bane is nice for damage but you need to get into autoattack range to use it effectively. i buy this all the time in pubs anyway since the enemy team generally isn't capable of punishing me for getting into auto range.
-tome is viable if you have no other source of cdr, but if you're going with a soulstealer or something it becomes redundant.
-abyssal is okay but the aura isn't always where you want it to be and you're paying quite a bit for the mr

just feel your way around the situation (personally i'm usually lazy and just build the void staff most of the time as kind of a pre-emptive measure, but it's not always the best buy). oh, and elixirs are good too.
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Justin_Crossing
08/18/11 10:36:00 PM
#330:


From: KanzarisKelshen | #323
People who tell you that are dumb. Also you don't want more than one doran's unless the enemy team is diving you literally all game. It's not a comeback item on lux.


I get it mostly for the additional cheap Mana regen and the AP and HP are never bad ideas.

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KanzarisKelshen
08/18/11 11:39:00 PM
#331:


Justin_Crossing posted...
From: KanzarisKelshen | #323
People who tell you that are dumb. Also you don't want more than one doran's unless the enemy team is diving you literally all game. It's not a comeback item on lux.
I get it mostly for the additional cheap Mana regen and the AP and HP are never bad ideas.


Good man. You got exactly what the doran's is for JC. I'm proud. :)

PS: No this isn't sarcasm, seriously, well done. HP on Lux is dumb, but manareg and some AP is not.

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Silver_Ermine
08/19/11 12:58:00 AM
#332:


ALright Group B I'm ready. Make me proud HS and CLG plz plz <3

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Silver_Ermine
08/19/11 1:25:00 AM
#333:


Stream Started :D

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HeroicGammaRay
08/19/11 1:35:00 AM
#334:


this music they have on is insufferable
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Justin_Crossing
08/19/11 1:37:00 AM
#335:


and the audio isn't synced

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Silver_Ermine
08/19/11 2:47:00 AM
#336:


Hella good game being played here. Best Anivia ever, Ocelot.

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Justin_Crossing
08/19/11 2:56:00 AM
#337:


worst ashe ever candypanda

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VincentLauw
08/19/11 8:21:00 AM
#338:


Just played my first game. Picked Master Yi, we won 38-7 or something like that. I had 12/2/5

I immediately bought him after that game. I think the other team just sucked immensely though, because I suck at DotA and probably this too.

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WhakkoJacko
08/19/11 9:56:00 AM
#339:


I've had such a ridiculously good day. Four games, four victories.

Yi: 4-3-11
Lux: 11-0-9
Maokai: 4-8-23
Cho: 8-1-15

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08/19/11 10:18:00 AM
#340:


Damn server downtime.

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Biolizard28
08/19/11 10:50:00 AM
#341:


Literally a dead game

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Justin_Crossing
08/19/11 11:54:00 AM
#342:


dominion stream in 5 :o

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Silver_Ermine
08/19/11 11:59:00 AM
#343:


I"M WATCHING WHOAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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Colegreen_c12
08/19/11 12:11:00 PM
#344:


where is this stream
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Justin_Crossing
08/19/11 12:24:00 PM
#345:


http://gamescom2011.leagueoflegends.com/

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SpeedYoshi
08/19/11 12:41:00 PM
#346:


Is there a new game starting soon?

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Justin_Crossing
08/19/11 12:43:00 PM
#347:


yes

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SpeedYoshi
08/19/11 12:44:00 PM
#348:


back to the stream then!

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Peace___Frog
08/19/11 12:53:00 PM
#349:


Maokai is a champion I really want to play more, but he's a 6300 (why do I fall in love with the expensive guys), and I'm really just not tuned on him. I love his moveset, but it certainly doesn't come naturally to me like Nidalee's or Galio's does.

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SpeedYoshi
08/19/11 12:56:00 PM
#350:


Map seems interesting, not sure if it'll catch on as the main game though

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