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ShadowHalo17
09/01/11 12:54:00 PM
#301:


I wish it was next Wednesday.

Actually I wish it was Tuesday morning so I could go to the one class I actually really look forward to (at freaking 7 in the morning, but it's College Comp and it's really awesome to me), and then after that I wish it was Wednesday afternoon.

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KimPilgrim
09/01/11 1:02:00 PM
#302:


I honestly don't know which week to be excited about most. Theres so much good stuff every week.

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KimPilgrim
09/01/11 1:03:00 PM
#303:


CSBG Justice League review, since icon and koolaid dig them so much.

http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2011/09/01/justice-league-1-review/

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ShadowHalo17
09/01/11 1:05:00 PM
#304:


Definitely looking forward to the third week the most, Batman and Red Hood, as well as Nightwing, oh man it's so far awaaaaay.

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ShadowHalo17
09/01/11 2:10:00 PM
#305:


http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/2011/09/01/teasing-dc-comics-the-new-52-i-missed-it/

Barbara says "I didn't even know how much I missed [being Batgirl]."

Bull crap. She complains about it all the time.

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ShadowHalo17
09/01/11 2:23:00 PM
#306:


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Oh man.

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KimPilgrim
09/01/11 2:25:00 PM
#307:


ShadowHalo17 posted...
http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/2011/09/01/teasing-dc-comics-the-new-52-i-missed-it/

Barbara says "I didn't even know how much I missed [being Batgirl]."

Bull crap. She complains about it all the time.


People make excuses about not wanting things they couldn't have all the time.

It's coping.

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ShadowHalo17
09/01/11 2:28:00 PM
#308:


No, I mean as Oracle, she was always like "I miss being Batgirl" and "I wish I could be Batgirl again, even for a day."

So obviously, she knows how much she misses it.

So when she says "I didn't even know how much I missed it."

I say "bull crap" because she knew exactly how much she missed it.

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KimPilgrim
09/01/11 2:34:00 PM
#309:


Oh

Well maybe she missed it more than she realized.

Hey, I know know how to know which week I'm most excited for, add up my predicted standard monthly pulls!

Let's see, counting Justice League as week 3, it's...

7
7
7
and 7

Well ****

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ShadowHalo17
09/01/11 2:37:00 PM
#310:


Wow if this was Final Fantasy VII you would be in an uncontrollable frenzy of attacks.

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ShadowHalo17
09/01/11 2:43:00 PM
#311:


http://www.slashfilm.com/amc-greenlights-secret-stash-kevin-smiths-comic-shop-reality-series/

Huh...

As long as he doesn't coerce people to read his horrible Batman stories, I think I'm all for this.

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Psycho_Kenshin
09/01/11 3:11:00 PM
#312:


Starring the guys from that podcast I recommended earlier, Tell 'Em Steve-Dave, which is recorded there. I'll be watchin' it, those guys are awesome.

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KimPilgrim
09/01/11 3:41:00 PM
#313:


Can't wait

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ShadowHalo17
09/01/11 4:40:00 PM
#314:


Jeez I'm so bored and I don't know what comic books I want to read.

Ugggghh.

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ZenOfThunder
09/01/11 4:45:00 PM
#315:


IGN review highlights:

Flashpoint: 6.5
Justice League: 8.0
Spider-Man: 7.5
Hulk: 9.0
Secret Avengers: 8.5
Shang-Chi: 7.0
Hawkeye: 6.5
X-Force: 9.5
Invincible: 8.0
The Rinse: 7.0 (STILL ONLY A DOLLAR)

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ShadowHalo17
09/01/11 4:48:00 PM
#316:


Shang-Chi was actually really good, loved the artwork, and more Iron Fist spotlight (sorta) is always a good thing. Made me want to start reading after the Fraction/Aja run, so I read the next issue but ugh Foreman's artwork is bad.

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KimPilgrim
09/01/11 4:52:00 PM
#317:


That **** looks great in Animal Man. Don't know about Iron Fist. Maybe it's just the tone of the books.

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ShadowHalo17
09/01/11 4:53:00 PM
#318:


Maybe it's just because Aja was SO FREAKING PERFECT that I can't accept something so different from it.

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ShadowHalo17
09/01/11 4:56:00 PM
#319:


And let me rephrase my initial post, Foreman is not bad, looking at some of his other work, he's good, but he just either doesn't fit Iron Fist as well, or his style has changed since then to be better. Could be both actually.

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KimPilgrim
09/01/11 5:49:00 PM
#320:


First finalized Flash panel, pretty sure.

http://twitter.com/BrianBooch/status/109403943213346816/photo/1

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KimPilgrim
09/01/11 10:10:00 PM
#321:


Hooded Woman in Hawk & Dove

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Of course Liefeld makes her super obvious.

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KimPilgrim
09/01/11 11:47:00 PM
#322:


OK

Apparently the Accessibility and Recommendation parts of Batman and Robin got cut off because it ended up being 2 posts and I missed it

So

Who did that one

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09/01/11 11:50:00 PM
#323:


2 posts? Probably Hero.


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KimPilgrim
09/01/11 11:54:00 PM
#324:


Sounds right if memory serves.

Also no color previews yet for that one sucks. Gleason is good stuff. I mean we already have those 3 earlier issues but still.

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KimPilgrim
09/02/11 12:14:00 AM
#326:


Bleh, there's nothing I can do with this one. The most would be to take out all the recommendation stuff about Elegy and the like, but it's still too long then.

Just gonna have to be 2 posts.

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KimPilgrim
09/02/11 12:49:00 AM
#327:


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KimPilgrim
09/02/11 12:49:00 AM
#328:


****ing dammit, the Frankenstein writeup is gone, too.

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ShadowHalo17
09/02/11 5:35:00 AM
#329:


LtM what the hell man, get it together.

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HeroDelTiempo17
09/02/11 6:13:00 AM
#330:


I didn't do Batman & Robin.

I could mess with Batwoman a little. I already felt some parts (like the ease of entry) needed to get reworked.

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KimPilgrim
09/02/11 7:22:00 AM
#331:


If you wanna edit it, here it is with the peview pics and such.

Batwoman, written by JH Williams III and W. Haden Blackman, with art by JH Williams III

Description: Batwoman, Kate Kane, is a great female character, despite being a fairly recent one, and this is her chance in the spotlight. “Strong female character” can bring a lot of different connotations, not all of them good. In comics especially, female characters can fall victim to gender stereotypes or just not get treated with respect. Sometimes they look like they’re trying too hard to be strong or accepted. Not Batwoman. Batwoman succeeds in being interesting because she is a strong character who happens to be female instead of falling flat. That isn’t to say that her character isn’t strongly defined around her gender, because it is. But what I’m getting at is that, despite the similar motifs, Batwoman isn’t just a “Girl Power!” version of Batman, or Bruce Wayne with boobs, or Bruce’s girlfriend or anything like that (she’s actually a lesbian, FYI, and not closely connected to the Batfamily at all). She’s her own person with a completely separate back-story, cool personality, and interesting history. In summary, Kate Kane is her own person, likes to kick ass, and just happens to have lady parts.

The Creative Team: And this is the part that seals the deal.

J.H. Williams III is a masterful artist. He has a unique art style that is just beautiful to look at. Even his panel shapes are dynamic and creative. And not just that, but he can change his style to suit different situations in the comic. His art for the Kate Kane segments of the story are grounded compared to the grit and flair of the style he uses when Kate is in costume. Action scenes are visually striking and brutal. When some more fantastic elements are involved, the art becomes downright surreal. Flashback sequences invoke a sense of nostalgia. And his spreads, holy crap. He’s so good, guys. Words don’t do him justice.
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I really can’t stress how hard it is for me to choose these. ALL of his pages are even better in-context, and in Elegy it’s beautiful to see his art mesh so perfectly with the story. Depending on who you ask, you’ll hear that William is THE best comics artist on an ongoing DC series, along with Francis Manapul.

As for the writing? Well. That’s another story. This is pretty much Manapul’s Flash #1 all over again. J.H. Williams III is an unknown in terms of writing ability. He hasn’t written anything, although he has worked on the character before, as an artist. And the other guy? The most I can find on him is that he’s involved in the Star Wars Extended Universe and has written some Star Wars comics. That’s a very different ball game than Batcomics! No one really has any clue what to expect, but Batwoman is a solid character with a lot of potential, so hopefully it’ll turn out for the best. And there’s always DAT ART.

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KimPilgrim
09/02/11 7:22:00 AM
#332:


Accessibility: Ah, but here’s the catch. You see, Batwoman made her debut in the DC comics crossover maxi-series “52.” 52 followed a year in the lives of lesser-known superheroes while the Big Three took a year’s vacation. There were many occasionally converging plotlines in that series, and the story of the new Batwoman was just one of them. Following that, Kate Kane got a story arc to herself in Detective Comics entitled “Batwoman: Elegy.” The success of that storyline led to an announcement of her own series, and an issue called “Batwoman #0” was released as a prelude. This was back in 2010. This very same Batwoman series has been planned in advance, most likely before DC even made the decision to relaunch everything at #1, and CERTAINLY before the writers had heard about it.

While I don’t think they’d go in explaining absolutely NOTHING about the character, it’s still somewhat likely that they plan on using Elegy as a base. If you’re interested, I highly recommend checking out Batwoman: Elegy. It’s got a great story, introduces a lot of core concepts of the character, and has amazing artwork as a bonus. The three follow up issues, Detective Comics 861-863, as well as Batwoman #0 are also good bets if you can find them. However, 52 is not as newbie-friendly (though not as confusing as other DC crossovers), and the Batwoman “origin” story is only a fraction of the overarching storyline. But I could NEVER recommend against reading it, as it’s one of the best books DC has produced. It’s your call there.

Recommendation: If you want a book with a strong female lead, or want to see how comics can excel as a visual medium, then this is the book for you. If you’re interested in Batman but not quite sold on the idea of a Batfamily, then Kate Kane could be the girl who could change your mind. And if you already like Batman and wanted to explore the rest of the cast of Gotham City? You were probably already sold on this by now! The writing is an unknown quantity, so you might have to wait and see how that turns out before you make a decision, but the art is guaranteed to be some of the best in the market. Unless the writing is offensively bad, the art and character will be able to carry the book. And if it just so happens to be on the same level as Elegy? Then we’re in for a treat.

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KimPilgrim
09/02/11 7:25:00 AM
#333:


Action Comics #1 preview.

http://www.newsarama.com/php/multimedia/album.php?aid=44117

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KimPilgrim
09/02/11 7:32:00 AM
#334:


Also, UK stores may be getting american DC comics on release date now.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/09/02/action-comics-1-to-go-on-sale-in-the-uk-fifteen-hours-before-usa/

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HeroDelTiempo17
09/02/11 7:45:00 AM
#335:


I'll work on that a bit later, I'm in class right now. Some of those preview pics I hadn't seen yet, like that recap spread. I can really cut down on ease of entry and I'll see what I can do elsewhere.

Action Comics #1 looks interesting. Vigilante Superman? Can't wait to see how this gets handled.

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ShadowHalo17
09/02/11 8:05:00 AM
#336:


Man those preview pics of Batwoman are making me really excited to read it.

You might think of taking some of those out of the write-up, those links can take up a lot of space, cutting a few of them out might be a good start.

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KimPilgrim
09/02/11 8:06:00 AM
#337:


I just doubt he can cut 1900 characters.

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KimPilgrim
09/02/11 8:11:00 AM
#338:


Wow.

Justice League has already sold out its second print A WEEK AND A HALF BEFORE IT COMES OUT. It's going to a 3rd print.

Batgirl and Action Comics are already receiving second prints because of demand.

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CorporalSphynx
09/02/11 9:27:00 AM
#339:


You know, I think I'm gonna enjoy Action Comics.

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KimPilgrim
09/02/11 9:34:00 AM
#340:


You think Fox News got pissy about Superman renouncing his citizenship in a questionably canon short story,

just imagine what it's going to be like when they find out about Clark Kent, Super Socialist.

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KimPilgrim
09/02/11 9:48:00 AM
#341:


New Batgirl page.

All yours, Halo.

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KimPilgrim
09/02/11 10:36:00 AM
#342:


Voodoo

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Sami Basri A+

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09/02/11 10:55:00 AM
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ShadowHalo17
09/02/11 11:15:00 AM
#344:


From: KimPilgrim | #341
New Batgirl page.

All yours, Halo.

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I added it to my write-up.

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ShadowHalo17
09/02/11 11:18:00 AM
#345:


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ShadowHalo17
09/02/11 11:28:00 AM
#346:


I still don't have Secret Avengers 16 and I really want it.

Blegh.

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TheKoolAidShoto
09/02/11 11:31:00 AM
#347:


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The Guardians are just full-blown EVIL at this point

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KimPilgrim
09/02/11 11:32:00 AM
#348:


I can't wait for them to get their **** slapped by Kyle.

KoolAid any chance you still have that Frankenstein writeup?

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TheKoolAidShoto
09/02/11 11:34:00 AM
#349:


lol nope

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KimPilgrim
09/02/11 11:35:00 AM
#350:


Dammit

Don't suppose you want to do it again

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TheKoolAidShoto
09/02/11 11:36:00 AM
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From: TheKoolAidShoto | #349
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