Board 8 > The truth about the new Pokemon!

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WARNING: Someone will probably be offended by one of the words used. Pansy.



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Primeape, Hypno, Electabuzz, Mewtwo and Mew as furry bait? Uh, f*** no.

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whoa whoa who the hell thinks Gliscor ruins Gligar?

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Uh, no. They really did ruin Nosepass (My favorite pokemon) with Probopass (Ugly piece of s***, worst pokemon objectively)

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No one's favorite Pokemon is Nosepass. That is like a logical fallacy.

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That's a really stupid image. I mean it came from 4chan so that's expected, but still.

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From: ShadowHalo17 | #007
No one who isn't a boss' favorite Pokemon is Nosepass. That is like a logical fallacy.

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No seriously who even likes Nosepass.

Then again my favorite Pokemon is Caterpie so maybe I shouldn't be talking.

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nosepass and probopass are both ridiculous and wonderful. but honestly, people do whine too much about pokemon, from both sides.

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Wait. Gligar AND Gliscor are both awesome. Gligar more so but Gliscor is still cool.

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I don't even see people really complain about Pokemon like that ever, but I never spend time on the game boards and I never will.

Every generation has some crappy forgettable Pokemon. Some more than others (3rd gen being the worst). I don't even understand how people can complain about new designs. Yeah, some of them suck, but there have been silly and stupid designs since the first generation. Get the hell over it.

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Probopass is amazing, anybody who thinks otherwise is antisemite.

Okay not really, I just really like Probopass, it's hilarious.

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Gen 5 was really good with new typings. Another fire fighting starter stinks though.

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Probopass made Nosepass worth something

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From: GTM | #019
Gen 5 was really good with new typings. Another fire fighting starter stinks though.

Yeah I don't understand why we had to have a Fire/Fighting starter three times in a row.

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ANother thing I didn't like was that Smugleaf got nothing. In general, Water types naturally can learn ice type attacks, Fire/Fighting gives two set of attacks, but smugleaf was all grass and aerial ace/dragon tail. Literally nothing to work with.

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Perhaps it's because Gamefreak wanted to make Magmar Fire/Fighting back in the old days but thought it was too crazy. Now they are making up for their mistake.

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There's pokemon from each gen I like

but ultimately I will always adore gen I because of nostalgia factor (haven't played gen 4 and 5 even)

is that being wrong? Since when can you be objectively correct about a thing like pokémon?

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but ultimately I will always adore gen I because of nostalgia factor (haven't played gen 4 and 5 even)

is that being wrong? Since when can you be objectively correct about a thing like pokémon?

I think this type of thing is just especially annoying to those who aren't affected by nostalgia, as this seems like a very common nostalgia factor, and thus it becomes very difficult to hold any sort of favorite pokemon contest type thing without Gen 1 absolutely dominating the list, simply because they came first.

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From: swirIdude | #023
Perhaps it's because Gamefreak wanted to make Magmar Fire/Fighting back in the old days but thought it was too crazy. Now they are making up for their mistake.

Just because a pokemon stands on its hind legs doesnt mean it's a fighting type

wtf Breloom

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From: WazzupGenius00 | #005
whoa whoa who the hell thinks Gliscor ruins Gligar?

Yeah, what the hell is this?

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Simplicity is bliss. It's why Gen 1's designs are loved whereas 4 and 5's are not liked as much,

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Who hates Gen 5's designs? Gen 5 probably has the best batch of Pokemon in the entire series in design.

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Probopass is the best because it's just so ridiculous

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this definitley has a point

some people care a bit too much about gen 1 without giving the others a chance

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GANON1025 posted...
That's a really stupid image. I mean it came from 4chan so that's expected, but still.

Came in to say this.

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With that account name, of course you would.

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RBY does legitimately have the fewest truly awful pokemon.

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I do love me some fakemon though

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From: Anagram | #035
RBY does legitimately have the fewest truly awful pokemon.

wrong

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Anagram posted...
RBY does legitimately have the fewest truly awful pokemon.

But it also has the largest number of simple boring pokémon as well.

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I read somewhere that Ken Sugimori designed all the pokemon from RBY and GSC, and then there was a whole team for RSE onward. That's why you get simple designs in Butterfree, and more complexity in Beautifly

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GenesisSaga posted...
But it also has the largest number of simple boring pokémon as well.

RSE

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From: Anagram | #040
GenesisSaga posted...
But it also has the largest number of simple boring pokémon as well.

RSE

I've seen RSE's Pokemon called a lot of things, but "simple" and "boring" are not among them.

I'm sorry, but RBYs are easily the most simple, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it does lead to quite a few boring Pokemon.

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GenesisSaga posted...
But it also has the largest number of simple boring pokémon as well.

RSE

Yeah. Wrong.

RBY

Followed by GSC

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To be fair, I actually think BW did a good job with introducing new Pokemon. And just because a Pokemon has a weird design, it doesn't mean they are automatically bad. The regis are some of..y favourite Pokemon, and I have no.idea what they are supposed to be.

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RBYAlwaysWins posted...
To be fair, I actually think BW did a good job with introducing new Pokemon. And just because a Pokemon has a weird design, it doesn't mean they are automatically bad. The regis are some of..y favourite Pokemon, and I have no.idea what they are supposed to be.

They are the Blind Bandits, benders of earth.

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From: swirIdude | #001
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From: swirIdude | #001
WARNING: Someone will probably be offended by one of the words used. Pansy.

Reads like it was written by an annoying thirteen year old.

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Mawile is in my FAVE FIVE

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I despise Mawile. Like, it's one of the most awful things to look at in any pokémon game ever. But that was exactly my point. In the later gens you have a bunch of love/hate pokémon because the designers took risks, whereas in the first two gens pretty much everything that's not the final evo in a three-stage line is cutesy, simple, and safe (read: boring). I feel a lot of pokémon that would largely be ignored if they were released in a later generation get free passes just because they're associated with the glory years and nostalgia and all that, but... maybe that's just me.

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I thought Mawile was cutesy and simple >_>;

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That picture is dumb, I've never even heard half of those arguments, and they are stretched to hell and back.

GenesisSaga posted...


Yeah... no. Truth is a lot of the designs from the later gens are gonna be hit-or-miss. Some people love or hate Mawile, Nosepass, and Delcatty because of the way they look while others love them for it. Who really hates on Doduo or Diglett though? Yeah RBY contains the smallest number of truly awfully-designed pokémon, but that's because they weren't really taking risks back then. There are so many generic cute pokémon in Gen I it's almost ridiculous. I mean look at your pseudo-Legendaries across the gens. Just look at the difference between Dragonite and Tyranitar or Salamence. Cute and harmless looking Dragonite who's pretty simple and not at all intimidating and Tyranitar and Salamence who look like they could actually f*** stuff up.

Tbqh, I prefer sifting through the occasional Garbadors and Luvdiscs to find truly unique treasures like Mienshao and Luxray instead to the alternative: an entire gen of safe, boring Butterfrees and Psyducks.

I hate Doduo.

Besides, I don't see the correlation between Dragonite not being intimidating and your whole point. Salamence is just a quadrupedal dragon instead of a bipedal one, its design isn't even more complex.

But, simple is not necessarily boring, and having complex designs sometimes comes off more as trying too hard. I see most of RBY's designs as being simple, there are only a few that I'd truly call boring and Butterfree isn't even one of them, it was pretty cool back then and it still is. You're talking as if Beautifly was some incredible design improvement over it, but it isn't, it's basically the same with random colorful wings, and it came years later rehashing the same scheme.

And the same thing applies to Delcatty for example, mind you. It is, by no means, a much more interesting design even compared to Persian, who is admittedly boring.

The preconception of there being "lots of generic pokémon in gen I" and "lots of diversity from gen III onwards" is exaggerated. They are reusing schemes, entire concepts are being proposed again, hell gen IV is half composed of pokémon based on previous ones, and it doesn't seem to me that Tangrowth and Magrotfltar made Tangela or lolmagmar more interesting, I'd even argue that Tangrowth looks more generic than Tangela.

Nostalgia plays a part for gen I, but try switching the order of generations and tell me that the same pokémon that are popular from gen I wouldn't be as popular if they came later. Tell me Charizard, Blastoise, Mewtwo, Articuno, Gengar etc. wouldn't be as popular if they were gen V. It's the simple but effective design that gets more people to like them, not the order IMO.

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