Board 8 > Suor ranks 105 pokemon with write-ups - THE TOP HALF - No more Feralolators!

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Top 10 HAWT PREDIX:


10. Beedrill
9. Charizard
8. Jynx
7. Serperior
6. Cacturne
5. Articuno
4. Ninetales
3. Squirtle
2. Noctowl
1. Pidgeotto

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1. Articuno
2. Squitle
3. Serperior
4. Charizard
5. Beedrill
6. Noctowl
7. Ninetales
8. Pidgeotto
9. Cactume
10. Jynx

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Man this top 10 is amazing, I'm proud of myself.

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Haven't seen this topic in a while... and wtf Jynx. Hopefully she goes down at ten so I can at least have the second lowest average (of everyone submitting five Pokes,at least).

I kinda want to do a ranking topic after this... but I don't know. I was planning on doing one of all 649 a little before Bosco did his, but decided against it. Still not sure if it's a good idea to do one, though.

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I actually wanted to do a 649 one, but my computer died and the list with it so I settled for this.

The only way I could do a 649 one is with one-liners after this honestly.

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If I do one, it'd definitely be a nomination one like this. I just don't think too many people would be interested. And since I've made my top ten abundantly clear I'd probably have to ban them from being nominated.

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This is more of a how I want things to end up list.

10. Jynx
9. Noctowl
8. Pidgeotto
7. Squirtle
6. Articuno
5. Cacturne
4. Beedrill
3. Charizard
2. Ninetales
1. Serperior

IT HAS BEGUN!

#10 - JYNX
Nominated by: starfox2245 (LOL)
B***h Queen pic:
Bonus stealth Jynx pic:

I have to admit, I lol'd hard when starfox nominated this and innocently posted "I will nominate pokémon that I hate and hope to do the worst!".

Haha Jynx, so fun. I love gross-looking humanoid female pokémon and Jynx is the queen of all the b****es. Me and my friends all love Jynx because she's perfect comic relief, and honestly she would probably place fairly high if we did a collective list or something. B***h walks around Ice b***hslapping all the b***hes so that they will stop b***hing. It's pretty hilarious to think that she was a powerhouse in RBY.

Now, allow me to be a bit harsh on this subject. Even though I think Jynx is hilarious for her features, in my entire life I never, never, never remotely thought of Jynx as a racist parody. At least, not until malicious people tried to argue that she was a racist stereotype of black women. This is really f***ing dumb and anyone with a slight bit of knowledge about Japanese culture would understand how far-fetched this theory is. I don't know exactly what Jynx is based on (Bulbapedia suggests Ganguro fashion, it seems likely), but jumping to conclusions everytime you see a black face or literally thinking that a kids franchise would deliberately promote a racist stereotype is really stupid, and that's not how you fight racism. It's as if I went and complained about male Unfezants wearing pink flamboyant masks because they embody gay stereotypes.

I'm all for gender equality, race equality etc. and I'm happy that I grew up as someone who would never discriminate anyone for how they were born, but I can't take things seriously when arguments such as the one for Jynx are made. If everytime something that might slightly look like it could be related to race/gender/sex issues but ultimately isn't shows up people make unlikely assumptions that lead to inflated controversy, what you're getting is people not wanting to deal with your kind anymore, which is worse, and then you will find people complaining because "there are no black people in anime". Gee, I wonder why.

This woman:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carole_Boston_Weatherford

Literally got herself more known for this than anything else she's done in her career. Good job.

Unfortunately, as Pokémon was becoming a widespread phenomenon in the U.S., people at GameFreak had to bend 90 degrees and change Jynx's natural color from black to purple, which looks terrible tbh.

I hope that black board 8 users who will read this won't take this personally or think that it's offensive to write-off the complaints and decision as really sad (it's not a stupid decision per se, once the problem was triggered there was little they could've done). If it happens to be so, I apologize. Equality starts when you start living your life just like any other human being, and if you are equal to everyone else, you will be represented just like everyone else: good or bad, beautiful or ugly, smart or stupid etc.

That came out way longer than expected.

You can't kill Jynx, where would Nicki Minaj take inspiration from otherwise? Besides, for all the flak that she gets, Jynx is a b***h of love and loves to make everyone dance in unison with her. Haters gonna hate!



p.s. would anyone be so kind to explain to me why, when you type Jynx in Google, crapload of porn appears unless you specify that you're looking for a Pokémon?

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There is an American porno star who goes by Jynx something, as I learned from Gerbil's topic. So there you go. And I take no offense to original Jynx. When I was a kid I didn't even.realize there was an 'issue' with its design until years later. I dislike Jynx for other reasons- namely that it's just so dumb-looking. Smoochum is cute and awesome and adorable though. Wonder why they gave Electabuzz and lolmagmar evos and gave Jynx nada...

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I think they didn't want to put more wood in the fire, if you know what I mean.

I bet they kind of regret creating Jynx in the first place.

I can understand disliking Jynx for her appearance, not everyone is into gross humanoid females as I am. I give credit to pokémon who look hilarious though, that's how I got to like things such as Stunfisk or Exeggutor.

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Oh btw, I was actually really torn on who between Joltik, Gengar and Jynx should've been 10th. She's the only pokémon in the top 10 who isn't also in my top 20, so the other 9 were basically a lock.

I think we can all agree that the correct choice was made though!

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Hello DBZ Kai Mr Popo

SuorGenoveffa posted...

I have to admit, I lol'd hard when starfox nominated this and innocently posted "I will nominate pokémon that I hate and hope to do the worst!".

>_>

At least you acknowledge that it looks disgusting. And if you like it because it looks disgusting, then... well, there's not much else I can really say about that.

I also didn't realize they had the whole race issue with Jynx until I was in high school (considerably long after it happened). Not sure why I never questioned her change of face color, though. I mean, in Gold/Silver color didn't mean much (I mean, Houndooms GS sprite glows red) so I probably just thought it was the sprite, but I'm not sure why I didn't think anything of it in FR/LG.

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WOW I didn't know they had done that to Mr. Popo!

I'm... I don't know what to say.

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starfox2245 posted...

SuorGenoveffa posted...

I have to admit, I lol'd hard when starfox nominated this and innocently posted "I will nominate pokémon that I hate and hope to do the worst!".

>_>

At least you acknowledge that it looks disgusting. And if you like it because it looks disgusting, then... well, there's not much else I can really say about that.

More grotesque than anything, hilariously grotesque. Some people dig that (I do), other hate that.

I guess you could call this a double-standard of sorts, but if you post saying that you hate Jynx because it looks disgusting I don't facepalm as hard as when I read mnk's and swordz's posts about Serperior.

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Yo dude...

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damn these ranking topics really take a long time huh

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#09 - BEEDRILL
Nominated by: SpeedYoshi (Yaheee)
Old-school is better pic:

NOBODY EXPECTS BEEDRILL IN THE TOP 10!

I have a mostly hateful relationship with insects. Most of them are disgusting and I don't even know why I love Bug pokémon so much instead. Cockroaches are my worst enemies, moths are also annoying and don't get me started on flies and mosquitoes.

With bees, I have a love/hate relationship for the most part. For one, I acknowledge that they actually do useful stuff, but on the other side of facts I've never been stung by bees and am honestly not eager to experience a bee sting. Wasps, on the other hand, are b***hes.

How do you get me to like a wasp? You make it like Beedrill. Granted, if real life wasps were like Beedrill, they would murder men every single day and not in swarms. That said, it looks awesome and never forget Episode 4 and their killer red eyes. When Beedrill goes out, it goes out for the killing, it's a full-fledged assassin. I really wish that Beedrill's assassin-like look translated into actual battle prowess.

Yes, Beedrill's curse is being terrible in battle. I'm using one in my recent Red playthrough and let me tell you: Butterfree is clearly and easily the superior early bug. Twineedle is nice, but Beedrill doesn't have the stats to do much with it, and Butterfree having an early special attack in Confusion and the three Powders gets the job done for at least half of the game.

So why this high? Beedrill is a case of extreme design love. If there's anything that makes bees and wasps much cooler than most bugs is the yellow/black stripes color pattern. Add 3 venomous, lethal and enormous stings and the killer red eyes and you have the coolest design you could have with simple elements. Beedrill might not pack a punch, but it looks like it could kill you in an instant, stab you in the heart without hesitation, it looks much more cruel and ruthless than Scyther despite the latter being the superior pokémon.

With it and Vespiquen, Pokémon really got their bee/wasp pokémon right in every possible way and in vastly different fashions. Great job.

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#08 - CACTURNE
Nominated by: GenesisSaga (MadSaga in 3...2...1)
Spikes and spikes pic: http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg44/scaled.php?server=44&filename=332p.jpg&res=landing

Scarecrow cactus? Sign me up. Second favorite RSE pokémon here behind Altaria.

Somebody may not agree with me on this, but few pokémon deserve to be "Dark" types more than Cacturne. Scarecrows are a bit like Clowns in that they're unexplainably f**king scary and, just like clowns, that translated into popular culture. Thanks to that, Cacturne manages to be scary, mysterious and badass at the same time, a rare combination. As if it wasn't already cool enough, it has a very fashionable hat, I want one too.

The yellow eyes, the creepy mouth, the whole scarecrow-like design... Cacturne is one creepy fellow, but unlike Kabuto/ps it is High Quality Horror Movie creepy instead of trashy and gory low-budget horror movie creepy.

I like to imagine Cacturne hiding in sandstorms, disguising itself as a common cactus and striking its prey when it is blinded by the sand. In "reality", Cacturnes do disguise as common cactuses, but they actually only move at night. Whatever floats your boat I guess, Cact.

My first RSE featured Cacturne, the team was named "Lost in the Desert", it sucked and Cacturne was its cool lead. It was a glass cannon without speed much like Absol, but it featured an incredibly awesome signature move in Needle Arm that made it worth raising even just for that. Sucker Punch was obviously a welcome addition to its wide and amazing movepool. Besides, unlike Absol, Cacturne is capable of doubling as both a physical and special attacker, and if you've read my Electabuzz write-up you probably know by now that I love versatility.

Since Cacturne never really gets enough love and respect and we're talking about a pokémon that I really, really love here, FANART TIME (It has loads and loads of cool fanart, just some of the best):

OH hi!:


Hungry for blood:


In all its morning glory:


NO SERIOUSLY HOW COOL IS THIS?


DOWN TO BUSINESS:


Team assault in 3...2...1...


Chibi Cacturne <3:


DO WANT:


Cacturne: "This is my reaction to me not making the top 10 in the Grass contest":


Flygon is going DOWN:


See, I don't even dislike Maractus, but being a cactus pokémon and having to compete and be compared to SEXTURNE (A friend of mine who's also a Cacturne fan calls it that) is really, really unlucky because no cactus pokémon will probably ever top Cacturne. It's just this astonishing combination of perfect factors that is really hard to replicate, let alone top.

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Beedrill and Cacturne are two of my favorites as well, too bad they both suck competitively gg gamefreak-___-

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Well Cacturne isn't THAT bad, it has much more to work with than Beedrill at least and can do some damage in Sandstorm teams.

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I'm not really mad. I only pegged it two spots higher.

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From: SuorGenoveffa | #319

I have a mostly hateful relationship with insects. Most of them are disgusting and I don't even know why I love Bug pokémon so much instead. Cockroaches are my worst enemies, moths are also annoying and don't get me started on flies and mosquitoes.

oh toe me too

except idc about moths, and flies i just think are gross, but don't make me angry like mosquitoes or cockroaches (jesus **** are cochroaches gross)

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I f**king hate cockroaches. One of the worst things to exist in this world.

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Flying cockroaches are proof that Satan is real.

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GenesisSaga posted...

Flying cockroaches are proof that Satan is real.

Tell me 'bout it. I was once at home alone and one of those flying enormous bastards entered from the window (I was in Dominican Republic which is from where my mom is. Thankfully, Italy at least doesn't seem to have those disgusting things). Loads and loads of Baygon were used for the fight.

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#07 - NINETALES
Nominated by: cody11533 (Yeah I know, Gerbil stole Noctowl from you).
Nine tails pics:



Ninetales is beauty in its sheer and pure form. If I wanted to be objectively subjective, Ninetales would easily rank #1 as the most beautiful pokémon in this list, the 6 guys who ranked above it don't hold a candle to it from this point of view, the only one who could try and come close is probably Serperior.

As a Blue owner, I was graced with Ninetales instead of Arcanine. Arcanine is and has always been the best of the two competitively, but my aesthetic taste calls for NInetales, it looks so majestic. It's not just beautiful: it's cursed, it's mysterious and vengeful. I love pokémon who have a strong connection to supernatural powers, legends, mystery, a dark story to tell and this is exactly what makes Ninetales so charming without even have to talk about its pretty appearance. I mean, pokémon like Misdreavus and Froslass who aren't even half as beautiful as Ninetales have been ranked failry high on this list, thanks to their incredibly interesting origins (And their intriguing insight on Japanese folklore).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitsune

Foxes (Kitsunes) are part of many Japanese legends, this time we're not talking about headless women who murder pregnant ladies, I guess Kitsunes are a bit more nice.

The more tails, the more power, the most is nine. When a Kitsune has nine tails, it becomes white and obtains omniscence. Highly intelligent, long lifespan, magic powers concerning fire, illusions.... familiar? The most important thing NInetales seems to lack is the shapeshifting/assuming human shape ability BUT - as the anime taught us - Ninetales is perfectly capable of recreating illusions resembling a person. Kitsunes seem to prefer beautiful and lonely women as their shape, a trait that fits perfectly with Ninetales, most of the time a beautiful and lonely lady herself. Other than that, Kitsune are also believed to have flight powers, invisibility powers and possession powers. If all of these had been given to Ninetales it would've been even more awesome (room for improvement in an almost perfect pokémon, crazy, I know).

Mind you, Kitsune possession is a serious deal apparently: full exorcisms were made to force the fox to leave the host (usually, GUESS WHAT, a beautiful lady). When people didn't know about exorcisms they apparently burned the host's body trying to force the fox to leave. When someone had been possessed by a Kitsune, his/her entire family could have been ostracized by the community. Possession might be what relates to the "curse" of Ninetales? The page on Kitsunes is pretty comprehensive, check it out.

The thing with Ninetales is: it could've easily been a Ghost or Psychic type and at the same time I'm glad that it isn't, because it would've made its charm far more obvious. At the same time, the fact that it learns Ghost/Psychic moves gives it a particular edge over many other Fire types. What Ninetales lacks is offensive coverage.

I don't know why Ninetales was chosen for Drought, it doesn't make much sense IMO.

By all means, Ninetales is an absolute top Gen I Pokémon, it doesn't get much better than it from any point of view, it's one of the pokémon who define Gen I the most for me. I'd go as far as saying that the only reason why other Gen I pokémon are above it on my list is personal and affective attachment, Ninetales has pretty much every other Gen I pokémon beaten as far as quality goes IMO.

p.s. it's NineTALES, you jerks. Stop spelling it wrong.

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Serperior is next I imagine.

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No wait. Charizard then Serperior.

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You'll know tomorrow I guess. The next one deserves some particular attention and I need to study, I've used quite some time for Ninetales today.

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Anyone who doesn't have Articuno is his top ten doesn't know what he's doing. It's a fact.

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Anyone who doesn't have Arcanine in his top ten is a fart bag.

And look...

Kitsune have a fear and hatred of dogs even while in human form, and some become so rattled by the presence of dogs that they revert to the shape of a fox and flee.

Ninetales has reason to fear Arcanine- you know, other than the fact that Arc is better. :P

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Anagram is right and Gen is wrong.

More at 11.

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^I don't have to take that from a fart bag. :P

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no, you take other things from fart bags..... ew

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Pfft Articuno.

Pfft Arcanine.

PFFT I SAY!

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GenesisSaga posted...

Anyone who doesn't have Arcanine in his top ten is a fart bag.

Arcanine is also a very good pokemon, but it's no Articuno.

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You're right. It's no Articuno, because it's even better!

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XFD Sagapinions.

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Jynx #10?

Yowser.

Nice Ninetails placement, pretty close to mine.

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Ninetales so pretty.

I honestly much prefer your 11-20. Jynx get out of here

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I much prefer Vulpix to Ninetales.

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I don't "much" prefer it, but I am more partial to Vulpix myself.

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Basically Suor and I have the exact opposite opinion on Gen 1 Fire types.

He prefers Growlithe, I prefer Arcanine.
I prefer Vulpix, he's all about Ninetales.

I would be surprised to learn he likes Ponyta more than Rapidash and that he loves Flareon. Then we could be opposite in everything!

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I do indeed love Flareon.

But I much prefer Rapidash to Ponyta.

Besides, we agree on lolmagmar.

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poor magmar =(

so amazing yet gets so much hate

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SuorGenoveffa posted...

I do indeed love Flareon.

Bleh.

But I much prefer Rapidash to Ponyta.

Besides, we agree on lolmagmar.

Well darn. Guess we can't be opposites then.

Rapidash >>> Ponyta

But Ponyta has a much cooler shiny sprite. And yeah, forgot lolmagmar. Prolly because he's so dag on forgettable! As for the starters, I like the Char line but think they're way overrated so...

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I do indeed love Flareon.

<3

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Gen I fire types:

Charizard > Ninetales > Growlithe > Rapidash > Charmander > Flareon > Arcanine > Vulpix > Moltres > Ponyta > Charmeleon >>>>>>> Ball torture >>>>>>>>>> lolmagmar.

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Despite how much I really do love later generations, and it shows in my voting trends, Fire is my favorite type and hot damn, I think Gen I is the only batch that truly gets them almost completely right.

Charizard > Flareon > Ninetales > Arcanine > Moltres > Charmander > Vulpix > Growlithe > Rapidash > Charmeleon > Ponyta > lolmagmar

Bear in mind, my Flareon love just stems from a fourteen-years-and-counting devout appreciation of all things Eevee.

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