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DawkinsNumber4
04/08/17 10:19:02 AM
#151:


Kim Kusanagi posted...
I don't have a boiling point where I will hit myself against a police car.

No one but you does.



"No one but you does". You cannot possibly know if that is a true statement or not.
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JJWatt
04/08/17 10:19:19 AM
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DawkinsNumber4 posted...
This is the bodycam footage received after I put in a public information request for bodycam from this incident. I put my video up and I only find it appropriate to complete the story by also uploading the bodycam footage. Sadly this footage makes me look a bit insane and makes an ass out of myself, however embarrassing this may be, I find it still appropriate for reasons of transparency, understanding (this is a real meltdown, this isn't something that happens every day, all the time, or even normally at all but it has been known to happen...), and completeness as my video I had up created confusion about the arrest. In this video I think Molineux was just trying to do his job after looking back at it. He seriously injured my foot when he was standing on it and tried to put me in the car (my ankle specifically), but I don't think that was intentional. I do think Officer Mikash should not have threatened me because there was no disturbance when they came and no disturbance until AFTER he had threatened me but he cited "disturbances" in his threat even though they hadn't been proven to have happened yet. I maintain when I said "Am I being detained or am I free to go?" that I honestly perceived that as meaning I wasn't being detained and I was free. I never perceived it as a command to leave, only a statement that I was no longer being investigated and detained. I do apologize to all of the folk watching me make an ass of myself though for having to witness that. I really wish they just left when they realized there was no disturbance after they had gotten there and walked right past me. I also wish Mikash had given his identifier. Right as the situation started and I had started recording he made a statement "Oh here we go with this already" it sounded like and that upset me right from the get go because it was an escalatory and unnecessary statement. As we continued Molineux sort of condescended and said "Does this make sense to anyone else?" like I was stupid and that further bothered me and you can even see on my video I started to shake when this happened. Had they not condescended and just said "please stop arguing with that lady" and left there would have been no issue on my behalf. I get that I could also have done things differently and made mistakes and probably should have left but you have to understand to me I could NOT go anywhere until I got at least Mikash's badge number. My brain told me I HAD to file that complaint and I HAD to have that information to do so. The 1st amendment grants the right for citizens to petition the Government to redress grievances and the 14th amendment grants the right to due process on the state level. I do maintain still that these rights were violated with solely Officer Mikash's actions. Officer Molineux later claimed that it wasn't a right to ask for a badge number but I believe that was due to unwillful ignorance not willful ignorance so I can forgive that. In this situation I thank Officer Molineux for protecting me from further harm, however I must persist my qualms with Officer Mikash for his performance and behavior during this event which did cause me anxiety and stress and somewhat helped induce the ensuing meltdowns. I also believe Officer Parks is a real class act and a great addition to the Hagerstown Police Department because I found not one thing he did wrong in any of his actions or behaviors and he was very polite to both myself and the other citizens in the area. I have the utmost respect for Officer Parks and believe that he truly reflects the type of behavior that should be performed by those wearing the badge. He even stood up proud in my video with no shame in his public display, and rightly so, again I found not one issue in how he performed, not even an iota of a flaw.



Oh we do not need video proof to make this assumption.
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Akagami_Shanks
04/08/17 10:20:07 AM
#153:


DawkinsNumber4 posted...
Akagami_Shanks posted...
And you used your choice to come back and continue to antagonize everyone, which is why you're now in the situation you're in.



I used my choice to try to inquire into obtaining the information necessary to exercise my first amendment right to "Petition the Government to redress grievances". They denied me that right.

No, you used your choice to have some mental breakdown and bitch about your autism and annoy the 17 civilians, when you were told to leave. All while using such colorful and civilized language to express your views! Not once did you ask for their badge number when you were told to leave and asked if it was a lawful order, especially not without trying to insult them
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DawkinsNumber4
04/08/17 10:27:34 AM
#154:


Akagami_Shanks posted...
DawkinsNumber4 posted...
Akagami_Shanks posted...
And you used your choice to come back and continue to antagonize everyone, which is why you're now in the situation you're in.



I used my choice to try to inquire into obtaining the information necessary to exercise my first amendment right to "Petition the Government to redress grievances". They denied me that right.

No, you used your choice to have some mental breakdown and bitch about your autism and annoy the 17 civilians, when you were told to leave. All while using such colorful and civilized language to express your views! Not once did you ask for their badge number when you were told to leave and asked if it was a lawful order, especially not without trying to insult them


You're right, I asked them for it MULTIPLE times PRIOR to that.
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Akagami_Shanks
04/08/17 10:35:22 AM
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And you just said you used your choice from them saying you were free to go, to ask them about their badge numbers, which you didn't do at all. Instead you disturbed the peace and they still gave you more chances, but you just couldn't behave, and now you'll be out
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Menardi
04/08/17 10:43:19 AM
#156:


So why the fuck did you bang your head against the ground and the cruiser?
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Bio1590
04/08/17 10:53:24 AM
#157:


Man I know a lot of people view this as "enjoyment" but I honestly don't understand why the Admins don't make an exemption an essentially KoS Squadder at this point.

So much of what he posts falls into some legal grey area (does his Lawyer know? I'm assuming not) and a lot of his topics do end up locked/deleted but at this point I'm surprised they even want to deal with any of it anymore.

Or maybe they remember what he did before and they're worried he'll do something even more extreme this time.
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Mernardi
04/08/17 10:54:26 AM
#158:


Bio1590 posted...
Man I know a lot of people view this as "enjoyment" but I honestly don't understand why the Admins don't make an exemption an essentially KoS Squadder at this point.

So much of what he posts falls into some legal grey area (does his Lawyer know? I'm assuming not) and a lot of his topics do end up locked/deleted but at this point I'm surprised they even want to deal with any of it anymore.

Or maybe they remember what he did before and they're worried he'll do something even more extreme this time.

Can't do much when you're in prison.
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PostCrisisJ2
04/08/17 10:58:22 AM
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I've been lurking these topics for awhile now and it's quite clear the TC needs serious help. More than anything, I'm concerned about his kid. I really hope that they're with their mom or someone who's capable of taking care of them since it obvious that it's not going to be him.
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Akagami_Shanks
04/08/17 11:04:24 AM
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PostCrisisJ2 posted...
I've been lurking these topics for awhile now and it's quite clear the TC needs serious help. More than anything, I'm concerned about his kid. I really hope that they're with their mom or someone who's capable of taking care of them since it obvious that it's not going to be him.

Squader himself says he hasn't seem them in a long time
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wedontgetfooledagain
04/08/17 11:06:31 AM
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DawkinsNumber4 posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Also, that was pretty pathetic. You were being so loud and obnoxious that people on the street were ready to attack you and the cop that you continually lambasted with gay slurs and other expletives was actually protecting you and trying to keep from bothering you. If you had your way, half that building's residents would have been screaming right back at you.



Other than one single neighbor my neighbors have no issue with me. That being said, the statement "that people on the street were ready to attack you" is entirely made up and shows that either you feel the need to spread false information for those who don't feel like watching the whole thing or you simply are incapable of viewing a situation accurately and should never step foot in a court room as witness to anything.

I refuse to believe that. We now have video evidence of a true meltdown from you, and that deserves only pity. You need fucking help, dude.
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rhklce
04/08/17 11:12:40 AM
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While I do find these conversations entertaining, I do agree that he needs help. I actually feel kind of like a shithead for laughing like I did because it really is quite sad. I hope you're able to get the assistance you need, dude.
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Shadow Don
04/08/17 11:16:00 AM
#163:


PostCrisisJ2 posted...
I'm concerned about his kid.


WTF this guy has a child?!
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Neoconkers
04/08/17 11:18:33 AM
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we can only hope whatever's wrong with you isn't hereditary, not sure the world can cope with two xsquaders
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Go_Totodile
04/08/17 11:20:22 AM
#165:


@Akagami_Shanks why was I mentioned? I don't see what this topic has to do with me.
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Pogo_Marimo
04/08/17 11:21:36 AM
#166:


The primary cop did a phenomenal job in that situation. Guy is a credit to the force.
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prettyprincess
04/08/17 11:23:49 AM
#167:


DawkinsNumber4 posted...
They created the disturbance themselves

DawkinsNumber4 posted...
Because we all know how it's the police's job to create a disturbance when they spend 5 minutes trying to find the disturbance

this is a misrepresentation of the events and they did not initiliaze the second lobby disturbance because, yes, it is literally their job to address having been called
that disturbance comes from something you cannot strictly contest with legalese, and that's your intonation, attitude, and demeanor toward other people, with regard to both the initial event and the police interaction, and their reactions to that in kind are indeed reasonable even if incorrect in places

you need to stop simply viewing the law through a static lens and start also seeing the other people for who they actually are because by and large your attacks on the authoritarian, cronyistic state derive from these micro-interactions with individuals with whom you could calmly converse instead of consistently interrupting and insultingly placing exaggerated value in yourself over them

and I've said this previously but if you want the fulfillment of examining the processes, effectiveness, and constitutionality of public servants then you should make a career of it, rather than believe that you are solving the issues in any meaningful way through these individual actions and events
sure, we should as a collective take the steps to reach an idealized public sphere but in moments like this you have to detach desire from reason/expectation and, in a town of that size especially, recognize that people will be wrong in their jobs or simply also emotional humans and work with that realization instead of clashing against it and exacerbating the issue already there

should the second cop (and then further cops) have simply given their badge numbers and names? yes, even if only to realize it was the quickest way to dispel you and then dissipate the lobby
but you were already in the process of escalating the situation for feeling insulted when that is also how you yourself continuously exhibit talking to and inwardly feeling about people in general

you expressed your confusion at the time, but upon reaching the point of being in the elevator, it's also possible that you could have issued your grievances by taking the singular badge number that was given and then requesting the remaining information at a later date or time, especially considering it was not going to be addressed immediately or assuage your feelings of being condescended

but I feel for you and don't intend any of the above as an attack because I recognize where the uncontrollable issue derives from, I only say it in the hopes that perhaps doing so can seep in and assist you in the future
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Akagami_Shanks
04/08/17 11:24:43 AM
#168:


Go_Totodile posted...
@Akagami_Shanks why was I mentioned? I don't see what this topic has to do with me.

I remember you were in the last squader topic so I thought you wanted the follow up
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frozenshock
04/08/17 11:35:04 AM
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Dude, you need to learn some meditation.

It's good for stress.

Ohhmmm.... ohm..... ohhhmmm...
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DawkinsNumber4
04/08/17 11:46:31 AM
#171:


Akagami_Shanks posted...
And you just said you used your choice from them saying you were free to go, to ask them about their badge numbers, which you didn't do at all. Instead you disturbed the peace and they still gave you more chances, but you just couldn't behave, and now you'll be out



"And you just said you used your choice from them saying you were free to go, to ask them about their badge numbers, which you didn't do at all"


I literally did do this and it's literally on every video available.
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DawkinsNumber4
04/08/17 11:47:22 AM
#172:


wedontgetfooledagain posted...
DawkinsNumber4 posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Also, that was pretty pathetic. You were being so loud and obnoxious that people on the street were ready to attack you and the cop that you continually lambasted with gay slurs and other expletives was actually protecting you and trying to keep from bothering you. If you had your way, half that building's residents would have been screaming right back at you.



Other than one single neighbor my neighbors have no issue with me. That being said, the statement "that people on the street were ready to attack you" is entirely made up and shows that either you feel the need to spread false information for those who don't feel like watching the whole thing or you simply are incapable of viewing a situation accurately and should never step foot in a court room as witness to anything.

I refuse to believe that. We now have video evidence of a true meltdown from you, and that deserves only pity. You need fucking help, dude.



The truth is the truth whether you believe it or not. Not like your opinion is life-changing to me or anything.
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DawkinsNumber4
04/08/17 11:49:54 AM
#173:


frozenshock posted...
Dude, you need to learn some meditation.

It's good for stress.

Ohhmmm.... ohm..... ohhhmmm...




Until the cops start kicking in your door for your method of meditating even though you are meditating legally according to state law.
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Bio1590
04/08/17 12:13:37 PM
#174:


-Gavirulax- posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Man I know a lot of people view this as "enjoyment" but I honestly don't understand why the Admins don't make an exemption an essentially KoS Squadder at this point.


Because people like him were quite literally the reason KoS never worked in the first place and the eventual reason why it was done away entirely (status).

No I wouldn't lump him in with that group. He's a completely different kind of person than yourself or TRC. It's not like he's doing anything with malice - he's not trying to hack countless accounts or bring the site down.

He only has the one account (or at least appears to as he legitimately disappears whenever it's Warned/Purg'd) and I don't believe he has the resources or smarts to continually create new accounts that don't link back to him. Plus as soon as he got back on CE he'd be like "Look at this video!" so it's not like he'd keep it hidden.
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frozenshock
04/08/17 12:19:56 PM
#175:


DawkinsNumber4 posted...
frozenshock posted...
Dude, you need to learn some meditation.

It's good for stress.

Ohhmmm.... ohm..... ohhhmmm...




Until the cops start kicking in your door for your method of meditating even though you are meditating legally according to state law.


The cops are going to kick in my door because of my way of meditating?

I'm 33 years old. I was never arrested once in my life. I never got into any sort of trouble.

It's not that difficult.
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jenningsnash313
04/08/17 12:22:10 PM
#176:


TC's arrogance is hilarious. I didn't read most of the posts, but seeing TC gloat and brag about his reading ability and knowledge of the law and how it's superior to most people is giving me a good understanding about why this happens.

Whether it's true or not, people need social skills and humility to get by. TC may or may not be as smart as he thinks he is, but he lacks adequate skills to thrive in a world like this. It's the people that think they're amazing that tend to fall first, and TC is no exception. The line between confidence and arrogance is very fine, and it's a line intelligent people know how to walk. TC clearly does not have the skill to do this, else situations like this could be avoided. Such a shame, for a guy that claims to be smart, he lacks the necessary ability to utilize that intelligence in any meaningful way.
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Akagami_Shanks
04/08/17 12:50:33 PM
#178:


jenningsnash313 posted...
TC's arrogance is hilarious. I didn't read most of the posts, but seeing TC gloat and brag about his reading ability and knowledge of the law and how it's superior to most people is giving me a good understanding about why this happens.

Whether it's true or not, people need social skills and humility to get by. TC may or may not be as smart as he thinks he is, but he lacks adequate skills to thrive in a world like this. It's the people that think they're amazing that tend to fall first, and TC is no exception. The line between confidence and arrogance is very fine, and it's a line intelligent people know how to walk. TC clearly does not have the skill to do this, else situations like this could be avoided. Such a shame, for a guy that claims to be smart, he lacks the necessary ability to utilize that intelligence in any meaningful way.

I thought we all came to this realization by now, if TC was so smart and had this knowledge of the law that he thinks he possesses, he wouldn't be in this situation

-Gavirulax- posted...
Bio1590 posted...
He only has the one account (or at least appears to as he legitimately disappears whenever it's Warned/Purg'd) and I don't believe he has the resources or smarts to continually create new accounts that don't link back to him. Plus as soon as he got back on CE he'd be like "Look at this video!" so it's not like he'd keep it hidden.


That's precisely what I mean, KoS list wasn't done away because of me or TRC but the many other people who decided it would be cool if their leaked pictures showed them on certain bad lists (and yes some did this solely for that purpose, Bashers was a good example).

There does exist a sort of "name KoS" (not officially) which some people have fallen under in the past, but only when people already had many accounts banned (DN).

when you say DN are you talking about that one guy that had meltdowns whenever you posted? Darth Nightmaricus or some shit?
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Akagami_Shanks
04/08/17 12:56:07 PM
#181:


-Gavirulax- posted...
Akagami_Shanks posted...
when you say DN are you talking about that one guy that had meltdowns whenever you posted? Darth Nightmaricus or some shit?


Yeah that's him.
He even begged (literally).

begged for?
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Akagami_Shanks
04/08/17 12:58:04 PM
#183:


-Gavirulax- posted...
Akagami_Shanks posted...
-Gavirulax- posted...
Akagami_Shanks posted...
when you say DN are you talking about that one guy that had meltdowns whenever you posted? Darth Nightmaricus or some shit?


Yeah that's him.
He even begged (literally).

begged for?


...an account lol.

oh, the board8wiki says it's a chick

http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Nightmaricus

wonder what it is... also idk how I remembered their name when this happened literally years ago
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PostCrisisJ2
04/08/17 12:59:27 PM
#184:


Akagami_Shanks posted...
PostCrisisJ2 posted...
I've been lurking these topics for awhile now and it's quite clear the TC needs serious help. More than anything, I'm concerned about his kid. I really hope that they're with their mom or someone who's capable of taking care of them since it obvious that it's not going to be him.

Squader himself says he hasn't seem them in a long time


Ah well. I guess that answers that then.

Shadow Don posted...
PostCrisisJ2 posted...
I'm concerned about his kid.


WTF this guy has a child?!


Evidently.
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Forlorn_Ass
04/08/17 1:03:45 PM
#185:


All of that because she ruined your voicemail....

Grow some balls TC.
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Akagami_Shanks
04/08/17 1:14:04 PM
#187:


post it
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whitelytning
04/08/17 1:16:45 PM
#188:


"I can't transport him because he keeps bashing his head against my cage..."

lol
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Akagami_Shanks
04/08/17 1:30:00 PM
#190:


Cpt_Pineapple posted...
am I being detained?!?!

am I free to go?
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apocalyptic_4
04/08/17 1:40:24 PM
#191:


The police said your free to go and you stood there continuing to argue LMAO

Your being sent to prison over your own BS dude
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Akagami_Shanks
04/08/17 1:51:04 PM
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honestly this video gets funnier everytime I watch it
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jenningsnash313
04/08/17 1:56:08 PM
#193:


Akagami_Shanks posted...
I thought we all came to this realization by now, if TC was so smart and had this knowledge of the law that he thinks he possesses, he wouldn't be in this situation


But that's not even necessarily true, is my point. Certainly, he doesn't have the knowledge he claims to, but even if he did, I don't agree with what you said.

TC's problem has nothing to do with his lack of intelligence. It's his blatant lack of common sense. He knows how to read a book and does his best to manipulate, but when it comes to bargaining and talking to people, he fails. TC is proof that intelligence, whether real or fake, is not enough to be successful. TC tries to twist his knowledge to get other people to bend, but he lacks the ability to do it efficiently, which is why it continues to blow up in his face. A good skill is knowing when to fold, and TC lacks that one crucial element of intelligence. It pretty much turns his smarts against him, if you will.
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Kim Kusanagi
04/08/17 2:18:38 PM
#195:


DawkinsNumber4 posted...
Kim Kusanagi posted...
I don't have a boiling point where I will hit myself against a police car.

No one but you does.



"No one but you does". You cannot possibly know if that is a true statement or not.


Yes I can. Most people are normal.
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Cornmuffins
04/08/17 3:14:27 PM
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OK I got a chance to watch the video. Thank you for posting.
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DawkinsNumber4
04/08/17 3:32:47 PM
#197:


Bio1590 posted...
and I don't believe he has the resources or smarts to continually create new accounts that don't link back to him.



"and I don't believe he has the resources or smarts to continually create new accounts that don't link back to him. "

Ask the mods about my current usermap.
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DawkinsNumber4
04/08/17 3:35:58 PM
#199:


JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
DawkinsNumber4 posted...
frozenshock posted...
Dude, you need to learn some meditation.

It's good for stress.

Ohhmmm.... ohm..... ohhhmmm...




Until the cops start kicking in your door for your method of meditating even though you are meditating legally according to state law.


Smoking marijuana is not meditating. It is meditative at times, and can be used as a tool while meditating, but it is not meditating nor is it required or suggested to those who want to meditate. You can meditate without pot, and if you don't think that, you really should truly meditate more - probably would help you and your situation.



Well I meditate the way I meditate by law and they had to backpedal on that already...
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NES4EVER
04/08/17 3:37:26 PM
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So if you could go back in time and not flip out on a woman for talking in a public place and avoid all the aftermath from it, would you?
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