Board 8 > Wonder Woman - 90%+ on rottentomatoes

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Superhero movies I gotta see still:

Batman vs Superman
GotG 2
Civil War
Wonder Woman
Lego Batman

I think I got them all

Guess I could include that awful F4 movie too

BowserCuffs posted...

scarletspeed7 posted...

BowserCuffs posted...

scarletspeed7 posted...

Civil War is faithful to the characters involved in it. Tony Stark is an arrogant prick that believes when he finds a cause it is more important than anything else - including the other people he works with. Cap just wants MURICA to be MURICA and Tony Stark is not the MURICA he used to know.

Civil War is actual SJWs vs. MURICANs in all honesty. Politically correct superheroes are acceptable, heroes that go around and try to seize their destiny and dole out independent punishment in the name of FREEDOM and MURICA are bad.

That's a bit odd because the trailers made it feel like it was the other way around - Cap was the one trying to fight for an ideal to the exclusion of doing things the "right way" and Tony Stark was the one trying to keep him in a certain line.

I guess trailers do lie.

I haven't seen the movie and I don't plan to.

I'm talking about the comic.

Which you said the movie was true to so... *shrugs*

Just saying that the trailers made things seem opposite how you described them. I'm not trying to comment on something I know nothing about, this time.

I said the comic is true to its characters. I realize now that I didn't say a crucial thought in there - they should have stuck to the comic.
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JackMan posted...

Well, I'm excited for Captain Marvel at least. But agreed, would love a She Hulk or Spider Woman film.

Kenri posted...

So for those of you who have seen this already, is it as grimdark as the other DC movies or closer to the MCU in tone?

Somewhere in between. Gal Gadot learning about the world from Chris Pine and trying to fit into London is very charming and funny. The film's set during World War I though, which isn't exactly a bright and shiny period of history, but it doesn't shove it down your throat either. It had a good balance.

Good to hear, thanks! I generally like goofier superhero stuff but it sounds like this won't be too far in the opposite direction to bug me too much.
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Interestingly it's worth knowing that Snyder did supervise this one creatively, and was hands-off for Suicide Squad. David Ayer has a good record as well.

I think the reason this one succeeds is that they got it together on the production end. BvS and SS were messes in that sense. This is the first one produced since WB actually got people in to guide these films (as Kevin Feige does for Marvel) and it shows. Also the first one Geoff Johns is involved with. No Goyer also helps - this makes me more confident in Justice League as Chris Terrio alone is writing.

Wishing all the best to Zack Snyder by the way, what he went through was awful.
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Cannot WAIT to see this.
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By the way does Civil War break the 3rd curse by being amazing or does it end up not being as good as the second and/or possibly not so good at all?

I still put Winter Soldier on a tier that only GotG has really been close to reaching but Civil War is a great movie
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swordz9 posted...

By the way does Civil War break the 3rd curse by being amazing or does it end up not being as good as the second and/or possibly not so good at all?

there's like 2 good scenes
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Civil War I didn't find as good as the others, most of it was hamfisted and in the idling moments of the film I found myself wondering why the various parties were acting the way they did.

It's not a bad film, certainly not great though imo.

Glad to hear good things about WW, bout time DC started getting it together.
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swordz9 posted...

By the way does Civil War break the 3rd curse by being amazing or does it end up not being as good as the second and/or possibly not so good at all?

Do you consider it the third Captain America, or the 3rd Avengers? Because both are pretty valid.

It's better than the second Avengers, and the first Cap.
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Civil War = best superhero movie
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Civil War lacked a war. It was a spat in an airport parking lot.
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age of ultron is the worst (not including x-men movies)

civil war is a bit better, due to not being the worst
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Well these sound conflicting, but it can't be any worse than Iron Man 2-3 and Thor 2 and if it is I will be incredibly baffled

swordz9 posted...

Well these sound conflicting, but it can't be any worse than Iron Man 2-3 and Thor 2 and if it is I will be incredibly baffled

That much is true.
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I thought Iron Man 3 was actually really solid

Iron Man 2 and Thor 2 year fair enough

Age of Ultron is def worse than Civil War for one main reason
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Age of Ultron is in hindsight the worst Marvel movie yet. Nothing makes sense. There are no stakes. The acting is pretty bad. The music is awful.
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the acting is very bad, it's one of the first things I noticed. the directing for the action scenes was also very uninspired. I was just reading my age of ultron review yesterday (going through some old posts/topics while I was bored) and so a lot of this is still fresh in my mind now.
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I honestly don't remember any acting that really stuck out to me as bad per se but man fuck Black WidowXHulk
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Worst superhero movies I've seen (not all are hot garbage, but some were disappointing after their original/second movie):

Hulk
Daredevil
Catwoman
Green Lantern
Spider-Man 3
X-Men The Last Stand
Wolverine Origins
Iron Man 2-3
Thor 2
Batman TDKR
Amazing Spider-Man
Fantastic 4 1-2 (dunno how I forgot them until the Edit)

Bane_Of_Despair posted...

I thought Iron Man 3 was actually really solid

Same, it doesn't deserve all the hate it gets.

Bane_Of_Despair posted...

I honestly don't remember any acting that really stuck out to me as bad per se but man fuck Black WidowXHulk

The first time I watched it, that was the only truly terrible scene, but then on a second watchthrough, there is a really bad combination of writing and acting for most of these characters. When they have to spout the technobabble in regards to Ultron's birth/Vision's birth, it's so damn disingenuous. None of these actors know what they're talking about because it's garbage, and it's so easy to laugh at it.

And in hindsight, Ultron makes no sense. How is the robot born from a computer less human than the robot imbued life by a magical gemstone. Ultron hates the emotions and behaviors of humans... so he makes sarcastic comments, jokes, gasps at times? It's just nonsense.
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Green Lantern and Daredevil were fucking tragedies, and I've never seen Catwoman cus I figured it was just an excuse to put Halle Berry in a catsuit, which I can applaud but still, it looked shit.
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swordz9 posted...

Amazing Spider-Man

Watch ASM2 and marvel at how to be even more inept at writing a script, filming an action sequence or making anything compelling.
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Eh ASM and ASM2 were alright as action movies go. I've seen plenty worse anyway, maybe my standards have been lowered through attrition.
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scarletspeed7 posted...

swordz9 posted...

Amazing Spider-Man

Watch ASM2 and marvel at how to be even more inept at writing a script, filming an action sequence or making anything compelling.

All I remember about that one is seeing the trailer and being horrified how Harry looked.
I should watch it at some point.

I think the ASM movies are a bit underrated. There's some good stuff in there, for instance, Spider-Man actually acting like Spider-Man. And the dubstep battle with Electro is pretty sweet. I think the issue is more than there was a shit ton of Sony meddling that wrecked the movies, especially the second one.
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scarletspeed7 posted...

Bane_Of_Despair posted...

I honestly don't remember any acting that really stuck out to me as bad per se but man fuck Black WidowXHulk

The first time I watched it, that was the only truly terrible scene, but then on a second watchthrough, there is a really bad combination of writing and acting for most of these characters. When they have to spout the technobabble in regards to Ultron's birth/Vision's birth, it's so damn disingenuous. None of these actors know what they're talking about because it's garbage, and it's so easy to laugh at it.

And in hindsight, Ultron makes no sense. How is the robot born from a computer less human than the robot imbued life by a magical gemstone. Ultron hates the emotions and behaviors of humans... so he makes sarcastic comments, jokes, gasps at times? It's just nonsense.

I mean I know it's a cliche now to never trust trailers, but I have never felt so betrayed by trailers as I was with AoU. They did such a good job hyping the movie up to be so dark! I was super pumped for Ultron to be a complete monster of a villain, maybe even like a movie version of AM (I know, slap me for having hopes like that). And then what we got was, just awful. Even the dark version of I Have No Strings which, impossibly, was somehow awesome in the trailer was completely forced and ridiculous in the actual movie. And none of this is Spader's fault. He did an outstanding job with what he was given, he was just given total shit.
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Man, maybe my standards are low or something, but I've liked just about every superhero movie I've seen, which is a lot of them. Green Lantern and maybe Daredevil are the only ones I could say I disliked, and DD still had some cool parts. I've enjoyed every MCU and DCCU movie, as well as all the Spiderman and X-men movies (even Wolverine Origins had some fun parts).
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Also, Ultron is the best villain in the MCU by a long shot.
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just saw it. Amazing.
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Mac Arrowny posted...

Also, Ultron is the best villain in the MCU by a long shot.

Loki, sorry.
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Mac Arrowny posted...

Also, Ultron is the best villain in the MCU by a long shot.

Jesus what.

I mean he's probably not that close to being the worst because lol MCU villains.

But the best is Loki by miles. Indisputably.
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Loki is great, but Robert Redford is my favorite villain. He's the one that actually terrifies me.
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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

Mac Arrowny posted...

Also, Ultron is the best villain in the MCU by a long shot.

Loki, sorry.

Don't be absurd, the best MCU villain is Purple Man.
Yes I know it's supposed to be movies, but no one clarified, so there.
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MenuWars posted...

Green Lantern and Daredevil were fucking tragedies, and I've never seen Catwoman cus I figured it was just an excuse to put Halle Berry in a catsuit, which I can applaud but still, it looked shit.

I enjoyed Catwoman for reasons other than sexuality but my tastes tend to be different from mainstream opinion.
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scarletspeed7 posted...

Loki is great, but Robert Redford is my favorite villain. He's the one that actually terrifies me.

Robert Redford who played... uh... erm.... ummmm...
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Netflix Marvel villains are on a whole 'nother level from the movie villains. The freakin' Owl is probably above half the MCU villains. That said, I'd put Kingpin/Ultron/Purple Man all on the same level of being awesome.
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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

scarletspeed7 posted...

Loki is great, but Robert Redford is my favorite villain. He's the one that actually terrifies me.

Robert Redford who played... uh... erm.... ummmm...

Pierce.
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It looks really good, I'm pretty hyped.
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Ultron's the best
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I liked ASM2 a whoooooole lot.
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Watch ASM2 and try to explain any scene with Aunt May, any scene about his parents and any scene with the Rhino and how they relate to the rest of the movie.
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Electro's theme was sick.

I liked the very last scene a lot.

I don't even remember anything about the 3 things you just mentioned except the Rhino scene at the end.
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I've got about a month to watch the entire MCU (at least the movies) before Spider-Man comes out

I better get on that
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LapisLazuli posted...

Electro's theme was sick.

I liked the very last scene a lot.

I don't even remember anything about the 3 things you just mentioned except the Rhino scene at the end.

They were about 40% of the movie.
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I liked ASM2, though I admit it was flawed. Electro was the standout for me. I think the movie could've been really great if it just focused on him rather than having all those other elements.
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Mac Arrowny posted...

Also, Ultron is the best villain in the MCU by a long shot.

No, but he has the best butt.

The Adventures of Wonder Woman and Captain Kirk was a good movie.
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Just saw Wonder Woman and uh yeah that was a fucking great movie. Like, by any metric, this isn't even just "super hero movie" good.
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Just saw it as well

Absolutely loved it
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