Board 8 > Wonder Woman - 90%+ on rottentomatoes

(+) Yeah! (+)

yeah, don't care much for vulture (though this version of him could be cool).

bring on mysterio already geez.
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MrGreenonion posted...

PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

Every time I'm with my buddies and we see a Mummy trailer, we say to each other "I miss Brenden Frasier." I don't know why they would betray what the originals were like, which were great movies. If you want to make a "Horrorverse" they probably would have been better off starting with a different movie, like Creature from the Black Lagoon, except just call it The Creature and make it an actually quality film. Kickstart it with a surprise that nobody expects.

They tried to kick it off with Dracula Untold a couple years ago but for whatever reason they decided after the fact to drop it from their new canon.

Probably the same reason the Ryan Reynolds Green Lantern movie isn't part of the DCEU, if I had to guess. <_<
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azuarc posted...

swordz9 posted...

I didn't even know about the new Mummy until recently and was even more surprised it was starring Tom Cruise

DeathChicken posted...

And this really had no advertising to speak of either (Mummy ads were everywhere). Amazing what making a goodass movie and letting word of mouth go from there will do

I didn't know there was a Mummy movie until this week. By contrast, I've known Wonder Woman's release date for months and have seen YouTube and online ads for it for a while. So I'm a little confused when people say there was no advertising for Wonder Woman.

This seems to be location based, because we had a big topic about it. I've never seen a Wonder Woman ad once other than Dr. Pepper cans, and a lot of people were talking about the lack of advertising, while others say they had tons of them.
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I think it's because they marketed Wonder Woman to non-super hero audience because they knew people would see it anyway, had a lot of faith in it, and knew word of mouth would get any unsure comic fans to see it. The people they needed to sell on this weren't the hardcore like all of us. It was the casual audience.
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JonThePenguin posted...

MrGreenonion posted...

PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

Every time I'm with my buddies and we see a Mummy trailer, we say to each other "I miss Brenden Frasier." I don't know why they would betray what the originals were like, which were great movies. If you want to make a "Horrorverse" they probably would have been better off starting with a different movie, like Creature from the Black Lagoon, except just call it The Creature and make it an actually quality film. Kickstart it with a surprise that nobody expects.

They tried to kick it off with Dracula Untold a couple years ago but for whatever reason they decided after the fact to drop it from their new canon.

Probably the same reason the Ryan Reynolds Green Lantern movie isn't part of the DCEU, if I had to guess. <_<

Dracula Untold was actually pretty alright. Based on how people are reacting to The Mummy it's certainly the better of the two.
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Going to see WW this weekend. I've heard a lot of good things.
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Vulture is low on the chain of Spidey villains for me, too, but he's one of the original bad guys and he hasn't been used before, so I'm good with it.
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I wonder when the Spidey movies will start re-using villains that have been done in earlier reboots. Not counting the Tom Hardy Venom movie since that's apparently not a Spider-Man movie. I get that they want to distance themselves from earlier movies and there's a larger rogues gallery than most Marvel heroes, but at some point they've gotta want to do some of those iconic characters that have already been done.

I mean I guess they used the Harry Osborn Goblin in both the Tobey and Garfield boots but he was never the main antagonist of the picture.
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MrGreenonion posted...

I wonder when the Spidey movies will start re-using villains

Amazing Spider-Man 2 AND technically 1 since the Lizard was in fact in the Tobeyverse.
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I really want Mysterio, Mysterio's Menance on the GBA was legit as fuck
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Sam Raimi intended to cast Bruce Campbell as Mysterio in the original franchise.
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Yea I saw the storyboard pieces for that, super fun
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I honestly wish Raimi had been allowed to continue with the series as he planned. One mediocre movie shouldn't torpedo a director with a great track record. Ah well.
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scarletspeed7 posted...

I honestly wish Raimi had been allowed to continue with the series as he planned. One mediocre movie shouldn't torpedo a director with a great track record. Ah well.

I don't want to live in a world where Maguire continued to be Spiderman.
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scarletspeed7 posted...

MrGreenonion posted...

I wonder when the Spidey movies will start re-using villains

Amazing Spider-Man 2 AND technically 1 since the Lizard was in fact in the Tobeyverse.

A. I already mentioned Harry Goblin but didn't count him as he was never a main antagonist in either version, and
B. The Lizard was never in the Tobey boot, Curt Connors was.
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LapisLazuli posted...

I don't want to live in a world where Maguire continued to be Spiderman.

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MrGreenonion posted...

B. The Lizard was never in the Tobey boot, Curt Connors was.

Curt Connors is the Lizard
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scarletspeed7 posted...

MrGreenonion posted...

B. The Lizard was never in the Tobey boot, Curt Connors was.

Curt Connors is the Lizard

It doesn't count if he doesn't transform
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LeonhartFour posted...

LapisLazuli posted...

I don't want to live in a world where Maguire continued to be Spiderman.

Post a single scene where he's funny as Spiderman.
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And I'm gonna second that unless they become the villain they don't count. Two Face wasn't in Batman Returns
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LapisLazuli posted...

Post a single scene where he's funny as Spiderman.

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Awkward scene.
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Tobey was hilarious as Spider-man in the videogames, so I'm inclined to think it was just the terrible script
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People always talk about how great a Peter he is but he may be the worst Spiderman in anything ever.

Andrew Garfield had the opposite problem.
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Well that's like how Christian Bale was a great Bruce Wayne but not Batman so much
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I saw it last night. Thought it was okay.

Well of course Andrew Garfield was an awful Peter. They didn't write him as a Peter Parker at all. And considering all the accolades he's gotten from that one war movie he's in, I'd say if they wrote Peter to be more of a nerd, Andrew Garfield would have been perfect for that.
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maguire played peter very well but he was too old, especially in the first one. can't really buy a 27 year old man as a high school student.
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Wonder Woman - 15 million
The Mummy - 12 million

Lol.
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https://twitter.com/TheyCallMeYDG/status/872990936871129090
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I thought this movie was gonna bomb but I'm glad to see that isn't the case



I saw it some days ago and it was damn good
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It's at 163 million and climbing. Appropriate tracking is Mockingjay 2 right now. Probably could land around 300 million if things keep holding well.
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saw it last night. movie was good but took itself way too seriously and the big fight was just straight up them going "FUCK we made Captain America by accident, let's throw in some anime shit to make her sorta Superman-lite."

seriously, she just turned super saiyan. and Ares uses Archer's rocket swords/warped form of gate of babylon. and that was Jojo/a fighting game super when she did the rushdown on generic mooks.
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It was pretty accurate to her powers in the Azzarello run, no harm there. She's substantially underpowered for most of the movie tbqh.
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oh no, i totally agree with that.
it was just such a wild contrast and the anime aspects were super in your face and pretty random.

what? the hero who has no chance to beat the villain has a person extremely close to them literally explode, prompting them to get pissed off and they release a ton of power in a giant, golden, glowing aura? never seen THAT before.


my other big issue is that this doesn't explain WW2 very well. honestly, it should've ended with him still trying to convince her to join his side, leaving and saying he'll leave humans be for a while, let her see how they develop even without him, and then you get Hitler and Stalin in WW2 and him showing up with a "see, i told you so."
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Well it's World War I, not World War II so.
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scarletspeed7 posted...

Well it's World War I, not World War II so.

The argument he's making is that Ares is at the root of man's conflicts. WW2 otoh is unaccounted for if Diana's around and he isn't. You'd think she'd intervene and do something about it.
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AH! Gotcha.

The Spear of Destiny explains World War II.
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LMAO I forgot that thing

Was that ever shown in the comics or was that a retroactive explanation?
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Steven_Cynthia posted...

LMAO I forgot that thing

Was that ever shown in the comics or was that a retroactive explanation?

It's actually an integral part of DC's best series of the early 80s, All-Star Squadron. The series was set in the 40s and featured the Justice Society and other Golden Age heroes, and it answered a lot fo the questions people had formulated over the years. It's a pretty neat tale. Anyways, Hitler's Spear of Destiny was concocted specifically for that tale.
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azuarc posted...

The argument he's making is that Ares is at the root of man's conflicts.

But he's not. Ares didn't lie about that. That was the entire point.
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Just saw it. I was pleasantly surprised, it's much better than the other DCEU movies. Not as good as Captain america 2 (for comparison), but still good.
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Saw it last night. Thought it was... good.

I haven't seen any other recent superhero movies (assuming the Nolan trilogy doesn't count since no one talks about them in these conversations) apart from Deadpool, which I appreciated more than WW because it was so much more unique.

All I knew about Wonder Woman heading in was the amazing praise from audiences and critics, so I expected something more than what wound up being a pretty boilerplate movie plot. Granted it was done well - the action was fun, the locations/effects looked cool (maybe discounting the last fight, which seemed out of place with the rest of the movie), and Gadot did an amazing job - there was just little interesting about the movie.

I don't want to knock WW itself too much, but if this really is considered one of the best superhero movies since they took over the box office, then the rest of them must generally suck. >_>
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I don't think they mean in general there. As DC universe movies go it's "competition" is Man of Steel, Batman vs Superman and Suicide Squad which were all generally disappointing and/or bad to most people. Not sure how they measure it compared to the Marvel movies.
My plans fell through so I probably can't see it until Wednesday now

Saw it last night. I thought it was really good! I was a little confused because I thought it was World War II at first and not world war I. Only disappointment was that the secretary wasn't in it more. It was obvious that Diana was the Godkiller, and not the sword. but I feel it was handled pretty well.
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swordz9 posted...

I don't think they mean in general there. As DC universe movies go it's "competition" is Man of Steel, Batman vs Superman and Suicide Squad which were all generally disappointing and/or bad to most people. Not sure how they measure it compared to the Marvel movies.
My plans fell through so I probably can't see it until Wednesday now

Better than everything Marvel's put out since Guardians 1.
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Mummy lost by about 20 million dollars to Wonder Woman this weekend.
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Only 20 million?
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Well it pulled a 57 million dollar second weekend and Mummy pulled about 32. That's really bad for a movie that was supposed to become part of a regular tentpole franchise.
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Saw it. It's good, but that's as far as I'd go.

Best DC movie, but doesn't touch stuff like Captain America 2 or the GotG movies.
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