Board 8 > Wonder Woman - 90%+ on rottentomatoes

(+) Yeah! (+)

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/wonder_woman_2017

The curse was broken...?
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I saw it yesterday it's pretty good
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I liked Wonder Woman and I've been waiting for a movie for a while. I'm glad it is sounding like it is a huge success.
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I think that's what happens when you hire a competent, award winning director and screenwriter and not Zack Snyder/David Ayer.
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i'm glad it's gonna be successful just because that will piss off some certain people here
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OliviaTremor posted...

I think that's what happens when you hire a competent, award winning director and screenwriter and not Zack Snyder/David Ayer.

For real

I like Watchmen though.
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Glad to hear it's good. So is there hope for the other DC movies? Hoping Snyder won't be on Flash or Justice League

swordz9 posted...

Glad to hear it's good. So is there hope for the other DC movies? Hoping Snyder won't be on Flash or Justice League

Justice League is mostly finished. He was the director. They're doing reshoots later in the year, and he won't be the director for that due to a family tragedy, so Joss Whedon, who will also direct Batgirl, will step in.
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iiicon posted...

so Joss Whedon, who will also direct Batgirl, will step in.

I have mixed feelings about this quoted statement.
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Going to watch it today

Also I think it also has a good Metacritic score
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Wait what there's gonna be a Batgirl movie? I don't remember hearing about that. Please tell me we're at least getting a Robin/Nightwing/whatever movie

BowserCuffs posted...

I have mixed feelings about this quoted statement.

I mean, assuming it's going to be based stylistically on the Babs Tarr era Batgirl, it's not the worst pick. Given how frequently movie studios are plucking TV/indie/music video directors to helm their big franchises now, I wouldn't mind seeing someone like Lucia Aniello take on that role though.
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Due to the fact that we dont even have a Batman movie yet we dont know the state the Batfam is in

But knowing it includes batgirl and joss whedon scares the shit out of me.


Also i am still nervous about this despitr the positive press because the depth with which i hate Steve Trevor and "Mr. excitement" Chris Pine who is playing him runs pretty deep.

It doesnt help that DC has literally told the wonder woman origin story twice in the last two years and its kinda sucked both times despitr getting rave reviews.
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You have no idea how happy this makes me. A top 10 comic character with a top tier film!
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Just got out. Was really good! Like, not even 'for a DC film' good, just a solid film. The final sequence was a little jarring compared to the tone of the rest of the film, but yeah, good stuff. If WB make the rest of their films that good, they might have a fighting chance against Marvel.
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That's putting a lot of faith in them. I mean Marvel's worst MCU stuff is still kinda sorta ok. DC's has almost been Green Lantern and Catwoman bad >__>

Well yeah, I was just trying to emphasise its quality. I don't actually think there's any saving the DC cinematic universe at this point.

But hey, if nothing else, hopefully this prompts more female superhero movies from both Marvel and DC.
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I would be all over a Supergirl or Power Girl movie. Even a Birds of Prey movie with like Black Canary, Katana, Harley, Catwoman and Poison Ivy could be neat.

swordz9 posted...

Even a Birds of Prey movie with like Black Canary, Katana, Harley, Catwoman and Poison Ivy could be neat.

The Suicide Squad team is doing a Gotham City Sirens movie with Harley, Catwoman and Ivy.

So... probably a skip.
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swordz9 posted...

I would be all over a Supergirl or Power Girl movie.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supergirl_(film)
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So for those of you who have seen this already, is it as grimdark as the other DC movies or closer to the MCU in tone?
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Glad to hear this doesn't suck! I'll probably see it with my dad when I go home in a few weeks.
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iiicon posted...

swordz9 posted...

Even a Birds of Prey movie with like Black Canary, Katana, Harley, Catwoman and Poison Ivy could be neat.

The Suicide Squad team is doing a Gotham City Sirens movie with Harley, Catwoman and Ivy.

So... probably a skip.

Oh god :(

swordz9 posted...

Oh god :(

sorry for taking you on that journey

at least Marvel and DC offer a spectrum of quality:

Marvel: one out of four movies are good, the rest will probably bore you.
DC: one out of four movies are good, the rest will turn you into a nihilist.

and their positions are flipped for comics, so everybody wins
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I like most of the Marvel ones! I don't like how Suicide Squad basically made Arrow remove its own Suicide Squad characters that were basically all way better than the movie ones

swordz9 posted...

I would be all over a ... Power Girl movie.

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Well, I'm excited for Captain Marvel at least. But agreed, would love a She Hulk or Spider Woman film.

Kenri posted...

So for those of you who have seen this already, is it as grimdark as the other DC movies or closer to the MCU in tone?

Somewhere in between. Gal Gadot learning about the world from Chris Pine and trying to fit into London is very charming and funny. The film's set during World War I though, which isn't exactly a bright and shiny period of history, but it doesn't shove it down your throat either. It had a good balance.
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Katana especially though for my above comment. If the movie is why she isn't gonna be in more Arrow it's a tragedy because she is in the movie for all of like 2minutes and maybe 2 sentences :/

The obvious choices for actual good movies are Doom Patrol, Deadman and Adam Strange.
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I'm still a bit miffed that the awesome Batman from the Animated Series who was more than a moody crusader - an actual detective with heart who can show compassion to his enemies at the moment they need it while still knowing to use force to stop them if he has to - is the Batman that isn't really ever represented on the big screen, ever. Instead, we have a tamer version of that 3edgy5me murderous misanthrope.
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Suicide Squad seemed like it would be so fun and good in the trailers and then it basically uses 2 of the dozen or more characters ok enough and the rest......well I guess they exist at least

BowserCuffs posted...

I'm still a bit miffed that the awesome Batman from the Animated Series who was more than a moody crusader - an actual detective with heart who can show compassion to his enemies at the moment they need it while still knowing to use force to stop them if he has to - is the Batman that isn't really ever represented on the big screen, ever. Instead, we have a tamer version of that 3edgy5me murderous misanthrope.

Given his recent track record, I dont think we want the Bruce Timm version of any character doing anything
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please no doom patrol movie. I'm tired of stuff I like getting bad adaptations.
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MariaTaylor posted...

please no doom patrol movie. I'm tired of stuff I like getting bad adaptations.

Stop being defeatist. V for Vendetta had no chance of being a good movie and yet it was one.
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BowserCuffs posted...

I'm still a bit miffed that the awesome Batman from the Animated Series who was more than a moody crusader - an actual detective with heart who can show compassion to his enemies at the moment they need it while still knowing to use force to stop them if he has to - is the Batman that isn't really ever represented on the big screen, ever. Instead, we have a tamer version of that 3edgy5me murderous misanthrope.

Well it sounds like you need a TV show and not a movie. Because Marvel heroes have no nuance and neither do the DC ones on the silver screen. But you can give a character nuance when you have 12 hours instead of 2. IE: Preacher, Legion, etc.
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On the subject of that Sirens movie Catwoman would be a different actress right? That might not be bad at least

Different actress than the one already in the DCEU?
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BowserCuffs posted...

I'm still a bit miffed that the awesome Batman from the Animated Series who was more than a moody crusader - an actual detective with heart who can show compassion to his enemies at the moment they need it while still knowing to use force to stop them if he has to - is the Batman that isn't really ever represented on the big screen, ever. Instead, we have a tamer version of that 3edgy5me murderous misanthrope.

DCAU Batman gets pretty dark. He has his moments and definitely is a bit more nuanced, but the logical progression of that Bruce's character was a sad old man who had driven everyone he cared about away from him. I'd say it's a contributing factor to the edginess before a counterexample.
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scarletspeed7 posted...

Stop being defeatist.

I wouldn't say I'm a defeatist, I generally have a positive expectation for things. this is learned behavior. if you asked me 5 years ago I would have said a doom patrol movie was one of my most requested things. now... not so much.
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In my mind, DC has one of the best TV shows on TV right now. Wonder Woman is apparently one of the best superhero movies in recent years. In my mind, the goofier the property, the better the result from DC. So let's go obscure and make something mindblowing.

It worked for Fox with Legion.
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scarletspeed7 posted...

Different actress than the one already in the DCEU?

I mean not Hathaway. If there's already a replacement I dunno since I haven't gotten myself to watch Batman vs Superman still after all the awful I've heard >_>

scarletspeed7 posted...

BowserCuffs posted...

I'm still a bit miffed that the awesome Batman from the Animated Series who was more than a moody crusader - an actual detective with heart who can show compassion to his enemies at the moment they need it while still knowing to use force to stop them if he has to - is the Batman that isn't really ever represented on the big screen, ever. Instead, we have a tamer version of that 3edgy5me murderous misanthrope.

Well it sounds like you need a TV show and not a movie. Because Marvel heroes have no nuance and neither do the DC ones on the silver screen. But you can give a character nuance when you have 12 hours instead of 2. IE: Preacher, Legion, etc.

I feel like they did a good job of giving Captain America a bit of nuance. Less than a TV show mind you, but certainly a cut above the others in terms of compassion.
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You're right, Chris. Then they torpedoed it in Civil War.
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scarletspeed7 posted...

You're right, Chris. Then they torpedoed it in Civil War.

it could've been worse.

They could've made him a Hydra agent.
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I went to see WW tonight and i was honestly astounded. It was awesome. One of the best films ive seen in years and definitely one of, if not the, best superhero movie.
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To make Civil War thematically faithful, I think you have to get the characters to the point where their nuance is lost and they're engrossed in Us vs Them. I think they did that well for Cap and Tony at least.
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Jakyl25 posted...

To make Civil War thematically faithful, I think you have to get the characters to the point where their nuance is lost and they're engrossed in Us vs Them. I think they did that well for Cap and Tony at least.

Civil War is faithful to the characters involved in it. Tony Stark is an arrogant prick that believes when he finds a cause it is more important than anything else - including the other people he works with. Cap just wants MURICA to be MURICA and Tony Stark is not the MURICA he used to know.

Civil War is actual SJWs vs. MURICANs in all honesty. Politically correct superheroes are acceptable, heroes that go around and try to seize their destiny and dole out independent punishment in the name of FREEDOM and MURICA are bad.
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scarletspeed7 posted...

Civil War is faithful to the characters involved in it. Tony Stark is an arrogant prick that believes when he finds a cause it is more important than anything else - including the other people he works with. Cap just wants MURICA to be MURICA and Tony Stark is not the MURICA he used to know.

Civil War is actual SJWs vs. MURICANs in all honesty. Politically correct superheroes are acceptable, heroes that go around and try to seize their destiny and dole out independent punishment in the name of FREEDOM and MURICA are bad.

That's a bit odd because the trailers made it feel like it was the other way around - Cap was the one trying to fight for an ideal to the exclusion of doing things the "right way" and Tony Stark was the one trying to keep him in a certain line.

I guess trailers do lie.

I haven't seen the movie and I don't plan to.
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BowserCuffs posted...

scarletspeed7 posted...

Civil War is faithful to the characters involved in it. Tony Stark is an arrogant prick that believes when he finds a cause it is more important than anything else - including the other people he works with. Cap just wants MURICA to be MURICA and Tony Stark is not the MURICA he used to know.

Civil War is actual SJWs vs. MURICANs in all honesty. Politically correct superheroes are acceptable, heroes that go around and try to seize their destiny and dole out independent punishment in the name of FREEDOM and MURICA are bad.

That's a bit odd because the trailers made it feel like it was the other way around - Cap was the one trying to fight for an ideal to the exclusion of doing things the "right way" and Tony Stark was the one trying to keep him in a certain line.

I guess trailers do lie.

I haven't seen the movie and I don't plan to.

I'm talking about the comic.
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scarletspeed7 posted...

BowserCuffs posted...

scarletspeed7 posted...

Civil War is faithful to the characters involved in it. Tony Stark is an arrogant prick that believes when he finds a cause it is more important than anything else - including the other people he works with. Cap just wants MURICA to be MURICA and Tony Stark is not the MURICA he used to know.

Civil War is actual SJWs vs. MURICANs in all honesty. Politically correct superheroes are acceptable, heroes that go around and try to seize their destiny and dole out independent punishment in the name of FREEDOM and MURICA are bad.

That's a bit odd because the trailers made it feel like it was the other way around - Cap was the one trying to fight for an ideal to the exclusion of doing things the "right way" and Tony Stark was the one trying to keep him in a certain line.

I guess trailers do lie.

I haven't seen the movie and I don't plan to.

I'm talking about the comic.

Which you said the movie was true to so... *shrugs*

Just saying that the trailers made things seem opposite how you described them. I'm not trying to comment on something I know nothing about, this time.
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