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CountessRolab
06/23/17 1:51:38 PM
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wolfy42
06/23/17 1:52:49 PM
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I heard she has a life sized HP doll that she sleeps with.
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RCtheWSBC
06/23/17 1:52:53 PM
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Sorry, she can't hear you over her millions of dollars
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KevinceKostner
06/23/17 1:55:19 PM
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I really liked the books when I was in middle school but they did not hold up to later reading.
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Smarkil
06/23/17 2:00:07 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k0SmqbBIpQ

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Ogurisama
06/23/17 2:03:41 PM
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So Harry was named after his great grandfather?
How is this really a big deal?

Also she probably keeps publishing stuff with Harry Potter so she doesnt lose the copywright on it.
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adjl
06/23/17 2:05:34 PM
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If she's enjoying writing an expanded universe, and people are sufficiently interested in it to continue supporting her, why should she stop? Just don't read the extra stuff if you don't care, and carry on with your life.
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Ogurisama
06/23/17 2:08:11 PM
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I thought this topic was going to be about her whining about some political crap on twitter again. Which then i would have agreed
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Jen0125
06/23/17 2:19:37 PM
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RCtheWSBC posted...
Sorry, she can't hear you over her billions of dollars

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Jen0125
06/23/17 2:20:50 PM
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adjl posted...
If she's enjoying writing an expanded universe, and people are sufficiently interested in it to continue supporting her, why should she stop? Just don't read the extra stuff if you don't care, and carry on with your life.


yeah how is this any different than the expanded star wars universe that people go bat shit over
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06/23/17 2:23:45 PM
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Milk it
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ernieforss
06/23/17 2:31:14 PM
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"Before you go scratching your head, let Rowling, 51, break it down."

Why the hell did they bring her age into the article? Is she becoming senile?
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Troll_Police_
06/23/17 2:55:09 PM
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KevinceKostner posted...
I really liked the books when I was in middle school but they did not hold up to later reading.


thats because they are children's books....

the only reason they are popular is because your average person doesnt ever advance beyond like an 8th grade reading level.
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adjl
06/23/17 3:32:38 PM
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Troll_Police_ posted...
the only reason they are popular is because your average person doesnt ever advance beyond like an 8th grade reading level.


Reading level measurements are a matter of how much complexity one can handle, not what kind of content they like. You're going to have to dig a little deeper than that.

Jen0125 posted...
yeah how is this any different than the expanded star wars universe that people go bat s*** over


The biggest difference would be that the majority of the Harry Potter's EU is stuff Rowling's written herself (I believe), while Lucas didn't really have much of a hand in the Star Wars one. That doesn't really change anything as far as its validity goes, but it does mean that people that weren't already major fans of the main series aren't likely to explore it, since they won't be getting much by way of alternative perspectives on the universe.
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XcZeus3469
06/23/17 4:19:33 PM
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RCtheWSBC posted...
Sorry, she can't hear you over her millions of dollars


She gave away so much because it was making it hard to hear people, and shes still struggling; poor woman, I should help her out...
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OmegaM
06/23/17 6:33:28 PM
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Ogurisama posted...
So Harry was named after his great grandfather?How is this really a big deal?

Yes, that headline made me think that she'd revealed that the main Harry Potter series actually involved two different Harrys in different timelines or something.
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Zero_Maniac
06/23/17 7:05:02 PM
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Ogurisama posted...
So Harry was named after his great grandfather?
How is this really a big deal?

Also she probably keeps publishing stuff with Harry Potter so she doesnt lose the copywright on it.

You think she's going to be alive 70 years from now? That's how long it takes a copyright to expire, last I checked.
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Jen0125
06/23/17 7:17:23 PM
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Zero_Maniac posted...
You think she's going to be alive 70 years from now? That's how long it takes a copyright to expire, last I checked.


70 years after death i thought
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TheCyborgNinja
06/23/17 7:53:09 PM
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wolfy42 posted...
I heard she has a life sized HP doll that she sleeps with.

She probably put tubing into it so it's able to vomit on her erotically.
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Zero_Maniac
06/24/17 12:05:39 AM
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Jen0125 posted...
Zero_Maniac posted...
You think she's going to be alive 70 years from now? That's how long it takes a copyright to expire, last I checked.


70 years after death i thought

I thought so too. Either that, or 70 years after the last time a company/entity uses the IP.
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helly
06/24/17 12:12:47 AM
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it's her ip, if she wants to keep adding shit to it, what difference does it make?

does it harm you? this is literally no different from any other extended universe for a series.
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Zeus
06/24/17 12:14:41 AM
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Kinda wonder how much of it is ego -- wanting to stay relevant and have a position -- vs money at this point, since she has to be loaded. Of course, if she had any serious literary inklings, I would imagine that she'd be annoyed that this is the only franchise she can really get over.

Ogurisama posted...
I thought this topic was going to be about her whining about some political crap on twitter again. Which then i would have agreed


Pretty much. We hear more about JK Rowling's completely uninformed opinions on US politics than the opinions of actual politicians.

Zero_Maniac posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Zero_Maniac posted...
You think she's going to be alive 70 years from now? That's how long it takes a copyright to expire, last I checked.


70 years after death i thought

I thought so too. Either that, or 70 years after the last time a company/entity uses the IP.


It's generally 70 years after death. If it was 70 years after a company uses the IP, shit would never expire. The estate of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle has tried to protect Sherlock Holmes from going into the public domain by arguing he wasn't a fleshed out character until the last novel, which didn't fly in courts.

At any rate, Rowling has probably sworn that great-grandkids will never go hungry again.
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creativerealms
06/24/17 12:46:47 AM
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She tried to move on and yet those books didn't do as well.
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DarkKirby2500
06/24/17 12:52:01 AM
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There are actually 3 Jokers.
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wwinterj25
06/24/17 1:24:45 AM
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Why does she needs to stop making money?
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NeoSarinatan
06/24/17 1:49:25 AM
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Calling it now, this is going to be something that will happen in Fantastic Beasts 2. Newt is going to meet Harry's great grandfather for some reason.
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Zeus
06/24/17 5:05:05 AM
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NeoSarinatan posted...
Calling it now, this is going to be something that will happen in Fantastic Beasts 2. Newt is going to meet Harry's great grandfather for some reason.


What if Newt turned out to be Harry's great grandfather for some reason? #WhataTwist
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ArvTheGreat
06/24/17 5:10:07 AM
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Then she's going to say that the 2 harry potters are in a relationship together
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ArvTheGreat
06/24/17 5:12:02 AM
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Sometimes ips need to be saved from their creators
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Zeus
06/24/17 5:25:27 PM
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ArvTheGreat posted...
Sometimes ips need to be saved from their creators


idk, Star Wars kinda left Lucas's hands now and it's still fucked up.
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Ogurisama
06/24/17 5:28:17 PM
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Zeus posted...
ArvTheGreat posted...
Sometimes ips need to be saved from their creators


idk, Star Wars kinda left Lucas's hands now and it's still fucked up.

Yeah 90% of the expanded universe in star wars wasnt even done by him
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Zeus
06/24/17 8:31:55 PM
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Ogurisama posted...
Zeus posted...
ArvTheGreat posted...
Sometimes ips need to be saved from their creators


idk, Star Wars kinda left Lucas's hands now and it's still fucked up.

Yeah 90% of the expanded universe in star wars wasnt even done by him


I was referring more to the Disney stuff where he's presumably barely involved if at all, since even the EU he had editorial control during.
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Umitencho
06/24/17 8:49:00 PM
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CountessRolab posted...
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/jk-rowling-reveals-harry-potters/story?id=48233974

Harry Potter is over. Let it die.


I suggest you avoid any franchises like Marvel or DC(or any longstanding manga series) in general. When you create high fantasy, you tend to expand on it a lot if it has any amount of significant success. And among Western writers, she is not unique(aside from pottermore). You got a lot to learn about Western fiction and fiction in general. Maybe Goldylocks and the Three Bears is up to your speed. One story and done.
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ArvTheGreat
06/24/17 9:11:22 PM
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The thing with jk Rowling the stuff she adds she acts like it's been their the whole time like wasn't made up on the spot
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Dreaming_King
06/24/17 9:52:22 PM
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ArvTheGreat posted...
The thing with jk Rowling the stuff she adds she acts like it's been their the whole time like wasn't made up on the spot

As a creator myself, I can definitely tell you we come up with all sorts of things like this, years before anything is even published/put out just to help ourselves with world building and other reasons. Not everything "canon" gets put into the final project for obvious reasons though, and there's no harm in her talking about the stuff that didn't since so many people love the series.
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Umitencho
06/24/17 10:46:23 PM
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Dreaming_King posted...
ArvTheGreat posted...
The thing with jk Rowling the stuff she adds she acts like it's been their the whole time like wasn't made up on the spot

As a creator myself, I can definitely tell you we come up with all sorts of things like this, years before anything is even published/put out just to help ourselves with world building and other reasons. Not everything "canon" gets put into the final project for obvious reasons though, and there's no harm in her talking about the stuff that didn't since so many people love the series.


Agreed, anyone that looks under the hood of the LOTR franchise sees that Tolkien had a multitude of stuff to choose from when it came time to put his books together. He had so much material written that his son just sits there an puts the pieces back together. People don't realize that writers do a lot of well writing and planning that may never get put into an novel because it may break the flow of the story or be seen as trivia non-sense. For high fantasy, it's a tricky balance between fluff and world building.
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Zeus
06/25/17 12:09:14 AM
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Umitencho posted...
CountessRolab posted...
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/jk-rowling-reveals-harry-potters/story?id=48233974

Harry Potter is over. Let it die.


I suggest you avoid any franchises like Marvel or DC(or any longstanding manga series) in general. When you create high fantasy, you tend to expand on it a lot if it has any amount of significant success. And among Western writers, she is not unique(aside from pottermore). You got a lot to learn about Western fiction and fiction in general. Maybe Goldylocks and the Three Bears is up to your speed. One story and done.


That's not a high fantasy thing. That's more a matter of just keeping the ball rolling for profits.

Dreaming_King posted...
ArvTheGreat posted...
The thing with jk Rowling the stuff she adds she acts like it's been their the whole time like wasn't made up on the spot

As a creator myself, I can definitely tell you we come up with all sorts of things like this, years before anything is even published/put out just to help ourselves with world building and other reasons. Not everything "canon" gets put into the final project for obvious reasons though, and there's no harm in her talking about the stuff that didn't since so many people love the series.


Actually, the whole point of canon is something being within the work. If it's not in the final published work, it's not canonical. Granted, she can always expand the canon with new works, but an author's word by itself doesn't mean much before then particularly because they can always change their mind.
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Umitencho
06/25/17 1:38:50 AM
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Zeus posted...
Umitencho posted...
CountessRolab posted...
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/jk-rowling-reveals-harry-potters/story?id=48233974

Harry Potter is over. Let it die.


I suggest you avoid any franchises like Marvel or DC(or any longstanding manga series) in general. When you create high fantasy, you tend to expand on it a lot if it has any amount of significant success. And among Western writers, she is not unique(aside from pottermore). You got a lot to learn about Western fiction and fiction in general. Maybe Goldylocks and the Three Bears is up to your speed. One story and done.


That's not a high fantasy thing. That's more a matter of just keeping the ball rolling for profits.

Dreaming_King posted...
ArvTheGreat posted...
The thing with jk Rowling the stuff she adds she acts like it's been their the whole time like wasn't made up on the spot

As a creator myself, I can definitely tell you we come up with all sorts of things like this, years before anything is even published/put out just to help ourselves with world building and other reasons. Not everything "canon" gets put into the final project for obvious reasons though, and there's no harm in her talking about the stuff that didn't since so many people love the series.


Actually, the whole point of canon is something being within the work. If it's not in the final published work, it's not canonical. Granted, she can always expand the canon with new works, but an author's word by itself doesn't mean much before then particularly because they can always change their mind.


I recommend you read one shot stories for now on. High Fantasy isn't for you clearly.
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Zeus
06/25/17 2:09:58 AM
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Umitencho posted...
Zeus posted...
Umitencho posted...
CountessRolab posted...
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/jk-rowling-reveals-harry-potters/story?id=48233974

Harry Potter is over. Let it die.


I suggest you avoid any franchises like Marvel or DC(or any longstanding manga series) in general. When you create high fantasy, you tend to expand on it a lot if it has any amount of significant success. And among Western writers, she is not unique(aside from pottermore). You got a lot to learn about Western fiction and fiction in general. Maybe Goldylocks and the Three Bears is up to your speed. One story and done.


That's not a high fantasy thing. That's more a matter of just keeping the ball rolling for profits.

Dreaming_King posted...
ArvTheGreat posted...
The thing with jk Rowling the stuff she adds she acts like it's been their the whole time like wasn't made up on the spot

As a creator myself, I can definitely tell you we come up with all sorts of things like this, years before anything is even published/put out just to help ourselves with world building and other reasons. Not everything "canon" gets put into the final project for obvious reasons though, and there's no harm in her talking about the stuff that didn't since so many people love the series.


Actually, the whole point of canon is something being within the work. If it's not in the final published work, it's not canonical. Granted, she can always expand the canon with new works, but an author's word by itself doesn't mean much before then particularly because they can always change their mind.


I recommend you read one shot stories for now on. High Fantasy isn't for you clearly.


And I recommend that you learn what actual high fantasy is rather than wrongly apply the label to any long-running work. Doubly so considering that Harry Potter is actually an example of low fantasy.
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mignoncurieux
06/25/17 3:23:31 AM
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CountessRolab posted...
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/jk-rowling-reveals-harry-potters/story?id=48233974

Harry Potter is over. Let it die.

No, fuck you. She can do whatever the hell she wants, us Harry Potter fans love it.
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Dreaming_King
06/25/17 6:52:53 AM
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Wow, Zeus being hilariously ignorant, again. What a shocker.
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Zeus
06/25/17 1:53:47 PM
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Dreaming_King posted...
Wow, Zeus being hilariously ignorant, again. What a shocker.


These are basic, fundamental definitions, not a matter of opinion. If you don't understand them, then you know nothing about the subject matter. That or you're trolling about not knowing anything about the subject material, fake SK.
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CountessRolab
06/25/17 4:50:06 PM
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Dreaming_King posted...
Wow, Zeus being hilariously ignorant, again. What a shocker.


The best part is that he doesnt even realize he is a joke on this board, and nobody takes him seriously.
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Zeus
06/25/17 6:14:43 PM
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CountessRolab posted...
Dreaming_King posted...
Wow, Zeus being hilariously ignorant, again. What a shocker.


The best part is that he doesnt even realize he is a joke on this board, and nobody takes him seriously.


The irony is burning a hole through reality.
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CountessRolab
06/25/17 6:32:30 PM
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Zeus posted...
CountessRolab posted...
Dreaming_King posted...
Wow, Zeus being hilariously ignorant, again. What a shocker.


The best part is that he doesnt even realize he is a joke on this board, and nobody takes him seriously.


The irony is burning a hole through reality.


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Zeus
06/25/17 6:42:34 PM
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CountessRolab posted...
Zeus posted...
CountessRolab posted...
Dreaming_King posted...
Wow, Zeus being hilariously ignorant, again. What a shocker.


The best part is that he doesnt even realize he is a joke on this board, and nobody takes him seriously.


The irony is burning a hole through reality.


keep posting


Ok, if you insist. I'm waiting to hear back from Umitencho and fake SK anyway.
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CountessRolab
06/25/17 6:47:59 PM
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Zeus posted...
Ok, if you insist. I'm waiting to hear back from Umitencho and fake SK anyway.

CountessRolab posted...
Dreaming_King posted...
Wow, Zeus being hilariously ignorant, again. What a shocker.


The best part is that he doesnt even realize he is a joke on this board, and nobody takes him seriously.

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Umitencho
06/25/17 8:43:11 PM
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Zeus posted...
CountessRolab posted...
Zeus posted...
CountessRolab posted...
Dreaming_King posted...
Wow, Zeus being hilariously ignorant, again. What a shocker.


The best part is that he doesnt even realize he is a joke on this board, and nobody takes him seriously.


The irony is burning a hole through reality.


keep posting


Ok, if you insist. I'm waiting to hear back from Umitencho and fake SK anyway.


I made my argument and I am done "debating" with you. Idk how things are done here, but I do not get into endless debates with no end in sight. It's simple, you are not cut out for high fantasy at all. I suggest you avoid Tolkien like a plague because he did a lot of what you attacking JKR over to the next level to the point that there are book(s) devoted to just compiling his out of verse statements on his universe.

I will concede my point when you decide and declare that you will only read one shot stories for now on. Since that ain't happening within reason, and I fill like I am gonna be arguing with you in circles, I am ending my contribution to this discussion. Maybe you are one of those "must get the last word in" types?
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Zero_Maniac
06/25/17 9:19:10 PM
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Umitencho posted...
Zeus posted...
CountessRolab posted...
Zeus posted...
CountessRolab posted...
Dreaming_King posted...
Wow, Zeus being hilariously ignorant, again. What a shocker.


The best part is that he doesnt even realize he is a joke on this board, and nobody takes him seriously.


The irony is burning a hole through reality.


keep posting


Ok, if you insist. I'm waiting to hear back from Umitencho and fake SK anyway.


I made my argument and I am done "debating" with you. Idk how things are done here, but I do not get into endless debates with no end in sight. It's simple, you are not cut out for high fantasy at all. I suggest you avoid Tolkien like a plague because he did a lot of what you attacking JKR over to the next level to the point that there are book(s) devoted to just compiling his out of verse statements on his universe.

I will concede my point when you decide and declare that you will only read one shot stories for now on. Since that ain't happening within reason, and I fill like I am gonna be arguing with you in circles, I am ending my contribution to this discussion. Maybe you are one of those "must get the last word in" types?

Wait, is your argument that:

"This person does not like Harry Potter, and therefore would not like any book series similar to it"? If this is your argument, I do have a few criticisms:

1. This statement suggests that Harry Potter is one of the best book series in its genre, which is in fact low fantasy (If you think it's not low fantasy, you don't know the definition of low fantasy). It's not.

2. Even if it were considered a great work, the fact that it is a great work does not mean someone would not enjoy a book series within the same genre of lesser quality. That's just not how it works.
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Zeus
06/27/17 2:14:34 PM
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Umitencho posted...
I made my argument and I am done "debating" with you. Idk how things are done here, but I do not get into endless debates with no end in sight. It's simple, you are not cut out for high fantasy at all. I suggest you avoid Tolkien like a plague because he did a lot of what you attacking JKR over to the next level to the point that there are book(s) devoted to just compiling his out of verse statements on his universe.

I will concede my point when you decide and declare that you will only read one shot stories for now on. Since that ain't happening within reason, and I fill like I am gonna be arguing with you in circles, I am ending my contribution to this discussion. Maybe you are one of those "must get the last word in" types?


You literally don't know the difference between high fantasy and low fantasy, then start to flame me out of said ignorance. I wouldn't call that a "debate" either. It's even more ironic given that you chose to bring Tolkien into this, who actually DID high fantasy and provides a pretty massive contrast with Harry Potter which should have easily illustrated the difference between high and low fantasy for you.

Zero_Maniac posted...
"This person does not like Harry Potter, and therefore would not like any book series similar to it"? If this is your argument, I do have a few criticisms:


Umi's argument was based on ignorance and, rather than familiarize himself with the terms being used, he chose to double-down on his wrong position. If he'd taken two seconds to google the terms, pretty much all of this would be avoidable.
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