Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 132: WHAT HAPPENED now available in fantasy sections

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TheRock1525 posted...

So did anyone post what happened with Eric Bolling?

Fox News fired him.
Then his son committed suicide.

Holy shit.

To be clear he deserved to be fired (he sexually harassed several colleagues).

But yeah, the fact that his son committed suicide is terrible and I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
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CBS and Eric's Twitter suggest there's no self-harm. What source are you using?

Regardless, it's terrible. I had a friend who had a stomach aneurysm that killed him shortly before his dad was caught in an affair...didn't help he preached as well. It absolutely tore up their family -- the women of the family moved out of town and he became a janitor for a different church. I don't get the impression the rest of the family talks to the dad anymore either. This was eleven years ago and I hope the Bolling family can avoid a similar fate despite the sexual harassment.
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Just awful.

Mentally have to prepare myself for Ulti coming in to say Liberals are happy this happened now.
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If he goes that far, just block him imo. That shit doesn't need to be tolerated.
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C'mon guys, are we really gonna have the Ulti equivalent of Godwin's Law?

"When x happens, we must brace ourselves for Ulti's reaction."
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Did anyone see Ulti's like blowup in the Gamefaqs new moderation policy thread?
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My phone logged out of my account so I've gotten the full burst of Corrik talk.

Does it make anything better if you start imagining his words coming out of Tommy Wiseau's mouth? "No Mark, you are the one that is talking out of his ass. I guarantee this is all true, you just believe me, okay? Why are you all against me? I fed up with this world."
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TheRock1525 posted...

C'mon guys, are we really gonna have the Ulti equivalent of Godwin's Law?

"When x happens, we must brace ourselves for Ulti's reaction."

Well I mean if they still haven't blocked him for whatever reason they probably should brace themselves.
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redrocket_pub posted...

TheRock1525 posted...

C'mon guys, are we really gonna have the Ulti equivalent of Godwin's Law?

"When x happens, we must brace ourselves for Ulti's reaction."

Well I mean if they still haven't blocked him for whatever reason they probably should brace themselves.

And learn not to engage or quote him
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Do liberals here have a conservative on this board they like to argue with? I have my grievances with many of them (and expect the same back based on some past conversations -- it's cool), but the past few weeks it feels like this topic's riding B8 conservatives harder than usual. Not on the Nazi stuff, just more like the first point of opposition of various topics regardless of the user.

I don't have specific examples and you can decide if it's justified. Just a feeling I wanted to share in case I'm not alone. It feels like it's quicker to insults here lately.
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HaRRicH posted...

Do liberals here have a conservative on this board they like to argue with? I have my grievances with many of them (and expect the same back based on some past conversations -- it's cool), but the past few weeks it feels like this topic's riding B8 conservatives harder than usual. Not on the Nazi stuff, just more like the first point of opposition of various topics regardless of the user.

I don't have specific examples and you can decide if it's justified. Just a feeling I wanted to share in case I'm not alone. It feels like it's quicker to insults here lately.

Most of them tend to get scared off because of the shitty ones that like to talk. Which is kind of annoying.
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I mean, have you actually read the arguments? At all?
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redrocket_pub posted...

I mean, have you actually read the arguments? At all?

I am going to just throw this out there... that I think Kenri's arguments are worse than Ulti's at times. (A lot of times actually)
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HaRRicH posted...

Do liberals here have a conservative on this board they like to argue with? I have my grievances with many of them (and expect the same back based on some past conversations -- it's cool), but the past few weeks it feels like this topic's riding B8 conservatives harder than usual. Not on the Nazi stuff, just more like the first point of opposition of various topics regardless of the user.

I don't have specific examples and you can decide if it's justified. Just a feeling I wanted to share in case I'm not alone. It feels like it's quicker to insults here lately.

What conservatives even post here though? Corrik, who even the slower-to-pick-up-on-such-things here are realizing isn't interested in genuine, good faith discussion. Ulti, who's even less interested in that, and Seph who at least has moments where he's not trolling.

Like legit of the active 'conservative' posters here, Seph is the lowest on the troll scale. Think about that for a second. It leads directly to
SupremeZero posted...

Most of them tend to get scared off because of the shitty ones that like to talk. Which is kind of annoying.

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Corrik posted...

Did anyone see Ulti's like blowup in the Gamefaqs new moderation policy thread?

Seeing him get shutdown was pretty cathartic.

Also, him referring to other users as "you Board 8 people" implies he no longer considers himself part of the board, which is great news.
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Yeah that's the issue. The most talkative self declared "conservatives" are self admitted trolls. And no that's not "They have an opinion I don't like, they're trolls". I mean they are literal trolls who admit to being as such, and do absolutely nothing but try to start shit.


Doesn't help that Ulti keeps playing the victim. >_>
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LapisLazuli posted...

Corrik posted...

Did anyone see Ulti's like blowup in the Gamefaqs new moderation policy thread?

Seeing him get shutdown was pretty cathartic.

Also, him referring to other users as "you Board 8 people" implies he no longer considers himself part of the board, which is great news.

My favorite part was when he was like "I've been very civil in this topic" and someone who's not even a B8er was like "uh, dude, not only is that not true but you seem super mad?"
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LapisLazuli posted...

Corrik posted...

Did anyone see Ulti's like blowup in the Gamefaqs new moderation policy thread?

Seeing him get shutdown was pretty cathartic.

Also, him referring to other users as "you Board 8 people" implies he no longer considers himself part of the board, which is great news.

I only saw a page or two. Went to reply with a suggestion about the new system but saw it was full and closed so I was like whatever and peaced out.

It didn't look pretty from what I saw though.
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Corrik posted...

LapisLazuli posted...

Corrik posted...

Did anyone see Ulti's like blowup in the Gamefaqs new moderation policy thread?

Seeing him get shutdown was pretty cathartic.

Also, him referring to other users as "you Board 8 people" implies he no longer considers himself part of the board, which is great news.

I only saw a page or two. Went to reply with a suggestion about the new system but saw it was full and closed so I was like whatever and peaced out.

It didn't look pretty from what I saw though.

There should be a second one up eventually.
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Dark Young Link posted...

Yeah that's the issue. The most talkative self declared "conservatives" are self admitted trolls. And no that's not "They have an opinion I don't like, they're trolls". I mean they are literal trolls who admit to being as such, and do absolutely nothing but try to start shit.


Doesn't help that Ulti keeps playing the victim. >_>

Who? I can think of one person (maybe 2) and at times that person(s) legitimately brings something to the table.

Trolling is literally like insulting people or saying offensive things on purpose to stir up problems.
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Dark Young Link posted...

Doesn't help that Ulti keeps playing the victim. >_>

Unless he has a post that was modded earlier (seems he was modded a lot), his very first post was in regards to his "persecution" for being a Conservative".

Nevermind that last I checked he still denied actually being one.
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LapisLazuli posted...

Corrik posted...

Did anyone see Ulti's like blowup in the Gamefaqs new moderation policy thread?

Seeing him get shutdown was pretty cathartic.

Also, him referring to other users as "you Board 8 people" implies he no longer considers himself part of the board, which is great news.

Let me ask about a comment he made against me there: did anybody else here know about Ulti being on drugs and being suicidal? He accused me of knowing that, then deleted that section of his larger attack against me. I'm aware of some home issues with his wife, but I want to make sure I'm not missing some larger issue if he's going to throw that accusation at me. I dunno if he deleted it because it was too big of an attack for him or because he decided he didn't want that so public on another board or what.
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HaRRicH posted...

LapisLazuli posted...

Corrik posted...

Did anyone see Ulti's like blowup in the Gamefaqs new moderation policy thread?

Seeing him get shutdown was pretty cathartic.

Also, him referring to other users as "you Board 8 people" implies he no longer considers himself part of the board, which is great news.

Let me ask about a comment he made against me there: did anybody else here know about Ulti being on drugs and being suicidal? He accused me of knowing that, then deleted that section of his larger attack against me. I'm aware of some home issues with his wife, but I want to make sure I'm not missing some larger issue if he's going to throw that accusation at me. I dunno if he deleted it because it was too big of an attack for him or because he decided he didn't want that so public on another board or what.

I thought your comment I saw from you was very tasteless and unnecessary but I don't think I saw what you are referring to.
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The former is new to me.

I've seen some worrisome comments from time to time, but his overall mental health isn't exactly something I'm up to date on.

Why exactly was that brought up though?
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Dark Young Link posted...

The former is new to me.

I've seen some worrisome comments from time to time, but his overall mental health isn't exactly something I'm up to date on.

Why exactly was that brought up though?

From what I saw (may be wrong) Harrich brought up his mental health. Thats what i felt was unnecessary and tasteless. But i may have missed lead up or context
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Corrik posted...

I thought your comment I saw from you was very tasteless and unnecessary but I don't think I saw what you are referring to.

I thought so too at first, but reading it again it definitely reads like Harrich is responding to someone else about it.

I believe him that Ulti brought it up first and deleted it, there are like 4 consecutive deleted posts not long before.
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I brought up a past post of his, not his mental health, the one I sometimes post where Ulti admits he trolls and was a complete jerk about it to rile us up. He then brought up how he was suicidal and on lots of drugs during the time of that post (December last year).

I'll look up the posts, hold on.
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https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/11-team-gamefaqs/75743630?page=8

Ulti and I both posted sometime earlier in the topic and he apparently continued, often talking about leftists or whatever I saw from quotes. Since I saw he did this several times and my first post was indirectly about the type of behavior Ulti's gotten away with for a long time anyway, I thought people needed to know what he was about.

I came in on #429 and never mentioned his mental health -- decide for yourself if it was tasteless. #439 or #440 had him retaliate, where I know he mentioned him being on drugs and being suicidal at that time because of #441 and then found out it was deleted because of #463.

Is this something I should have known about him sooner as a B8 regular, or did ya'll not know too?
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HaRRicH posted...

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/11-team-gamefaqs/75743630?page=8

Ulti and I both posted sometime earlier in the topic and he apparently continued, often talking about leftists or whatever I saw from quotes. Since I saw he did this several times and my first post was indirectly about the type of behavior Ulti's gotten away with for a long time anyway, I thought people needed to know what he was about.

I came in on #429 and never mentioned his mental health -- decide for yourself if it was tasteless. #439 or #440 had him retaliate, where I know he mentioned him being on drugs and being suicidal at that time because of #441 and then found out it was deleted because of #463.

Is this something I should have known about him sooner as a B8 regular, or did ya'll not know too?

He said something about it IIRC, but later informed us he was in a better place and promised to stop trolling. You know how that story goes
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HaRRicH posted...

Is this something I should have known about him sooner as a B8 regular, or did ya'll not know too?

I've never seen him mention it
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It might also have been on Discord.
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Though ultimately? It's all irrelevant. Him having personal issues doesn't excuse him being an intentional dick to the board.

I mean, I used to be be a douche at times in the past... you didn't see me go "But guys, I'm going through a lot...." as an excuse. I just decided to stop(Or at least try).
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I just honestly wouldn't believe him, just like it's pretty obvious that he made up that story about going to therapy which was obviously a lie, if you wanna talk tasteless. The only mental issue Ulti has is his pathological lying, and his inability to hold that back has led to him making up a bunch of other issues.
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Okay, I remember hearing about therapy and something of a recent awareness about his mental health, but I don't immediately associate those to what he accused me of knowing there. I certainly did not bring those up until he did though, nor do I think I said anything out of line regarding them. This is the first time he mentioned those details too regarding the post I sometimes share of his, and then he deleted it.....

I don't want to harp on this any longer. Sorry to discuss it this much and thanks for helping clear this up for me.
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I probably haven't been paying attention to everything he says but I honestly didn't think anyone here could be more socially inept and disconnected from reality than Preston. (Referring to Ulti's consistent off the rail posting lately)

And to think he's still in the Top 3 of my B8'er list. Perhaps I need to seriously consider updating that ranking sometime soon...
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did anybody else here know about Ulti being on drugs and being suicidal?

I don't remember specifically the suicidal bit, but do remember a sort of general "I was in a bad place mentally" situation.

It's entirely possible he mentioned it before, but he could also just think he mentioned it because he's sort of bad about knowing what posts were sometimes.
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StealThisSheen posted...

Corrik posted...

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Corrik posted...

redrocket_pub posted...

Why is anyone even engaging a person who pretends to not understand the moral and legal differences between emergency medical care and what that cop was trying to pull?

It is funny how you say stuff like this while Kenri literally just said drawing someone's blood is assault and that it is better a cop was beaten and could have been killed instead of use force to stop a criminal.

What would YOU call drawing someone's blood without consent?

And also where did Kenri literally say a cop should have been beaten and maybe killed?

He said the woman who feared to use her weapon cuz the backlash over if she was wrong was a better outcome than her using force to stop a criminal who beat her and I think 2 other officers severely.

I don't want to gloss over how dumb Corrik is being, but this is pretty dumb, yeah.

Like, we shouldn't need to try to out-crazy Corrik, here.

"Corrik is dumb and crazy, but lemme just accept his version of events as if it's accurate."

Really? Like, I know you don't like me but maybe actually read my posts if you're gonna jump in on them? What I actually said is controversial enough without having to spin it.

FYI I didn't say anything about force as a general concept, I didn't say anything about whether lethal force in specific would have been justified here, and I definitely didn't say she deserved it or that her getting hurt was part of what made the resolution better than the alternative -- I just praised a cop for having restraint to not use lethal force even when being beaten, within an atmosphere of cops killing someone as soon as they "fear for their life" (whatever that means).

To me this is unquestionably a better resolution than one where someone gets shot to death without even a trial. But hey, I'm the maniac that thinks police shouldn't even carry guns. What do I know.


HaRRicH posted...

Do liberals here have a conservative on this board they like to argue with?

More leftist than liberal but assuming you're using it as a general term... I don't like arguing as a general rule but foolmo and Eddv are both conservatives that I always appreciate reading the posts of, at least. I don't argue with either one very much cuz we tend to agree on basic human rights stuff and that's 99% of what I argue about.
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I was being general, yeah.
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Kenri posted...

I just praised a cop for having restraint to not use lethal force even when being beaten, within an atmosphere of cops killing someone as soon as they "fear for their life" (whatever that means).

To me this is unquestionably a better resolution than one where someone gets shot to death without even a trial.

I mean, her almost getting beat to death came as a direct result of them not shooting the guy, so it's very hard to say it's a better resolution without saying... Yes, her getting beat was better than the criminal getting shot.

Also, since you said I don't like you, please understand that that isn't true. There's plenty I like about you. I don't like your politics, but if I'm able to separate Wang from his, I can definitely separate you from yours!
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StealThisSheen posted...

I mean, her almost getting beat to death came as a direct result of them not shooting the guy, so it's very hard to say it's a better resolution without saying... Yes, her getting beat was better than the criminal getting shot.

In the universe where he's shot to death immediately, how do you know if you averted a beating or just killed someone for no reason? I guess you could shoot him as he's actively beating you, which is pretty understandable, and that's why I think it's praiseworthy that she didn't.

(I'll admit I'm kind of unclear on the details of this -- it was the cop who got beaten half to death that didn't want to shoot, not her backup, right? Or both? I thought it was the former but I haven't read about this since it first made the news. It changes the scenario somewhat but not substantially, I guess.)

But even in your breakdown of the situation, yes, I think it's better for our legal system/society if police are not allowed to become judge, jury, and executioner even if that means they are occasionally hurt in a way that was preventable. That really really sucks for them but it's part of the job, and they should be trained better in de-escalation and non-lethal takedowns to make up for it.

Keep in mind also that the way Corrik (and others in the past) ran with this story was that she didn't shoot because she was afraid of the consequences of doing so. If we take that as true, it means nothing stopped her from shooting other than a feeling in the back of her mind of, "oh, maybe I'll get in trouble for this" which is absolutely, 100% of the time, the thing I want going through someone's mind when they're considering whether to end another human's life or not. At least then their decision has weight to it. (Actually, ideally it would be "is this moral to do?" but for a lot of people that's either equally or less constraining so whatever.)


StealThisSheen posted...

Also, since you said I don't like you, please understand that that isn't true. There's plenty I like about you. I don't like your politics, but if I'm able to separate Wang from his, I can definitely separate you from yours!

Well. Thank you I guess. I can't do that because from where I'm standing everything is inherently political or at least related to politics in some way, so *shrug*
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Kenri posted...

In the universe where he's shot to death immediately, how do you know if you averted a beating or just killed someone for no reason? I guess you could shoot him as he's actively beating you, which is pretty understandable, and that's why I think it's praiseworthy that she didn't.

(I'll admit I'm kind of unclear on the details of this -- it was the cop who got beaten half to death that didn't want to shoot, not her backup, right? Or both? I thought it was the former but I haven't read about this since it first made the news. It changes the scenario somewhat but not substantially, I guess.)

Both. She refused to shoot, but her partners also apparently did, too, as they were hurt while trying to pull the guy off of her.

And this is where we'll have to agree to disagree, mainly, since... I can't bring myself to say it's praiseworthy that she didn't shoot even while being attacked, since I think the situation would be different if she had died from the injuries. Like, I don't think anybody would be saying "Good on her for not shooting" if she died, so it's hard for me to say it when she almost died. So to me, it comes down to... Which life is more valuable, that of a good cop, or that of a violent criminal? In a perfect world, neither has to die... But this isn't a perfect world, and the cop basically lucked out in this case. I don't think good cops should have to worry about stopping violent criminals and potentially dying. A good cop shouldn't have to hesitate because of what some bad cops did.
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To me hesitation is part of what makes someone a good cop. You should hesitate when you're holding a gun. If ending someone's life is effortless for you mentally, I don't want you anywhere near a job where you have ample opportunity to do it.
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Kenri posted...

...it means nothing stopped her from shooting other than a feeling in the back of her mind of, "oh, maybe I'll get in trouble for this" which is absolutely, 100% of the time, the thing I want going through someone's mind when they're considering whether to end another human's life or not. At least then their decision has weight to it. (Actually, ideally it would be "is this moral to do?" but for a lot of people that's either equally or less constraining so whatever.)

Normally I stay out of these kind of debates but I've been watching the Justice network and other cop shows for quite some time and the most common thing they all say in a shooting situation is "It's them or me" so I really think the norm is that most cops are either trained or truly believe that the worst scenario is always the most likely scenario.

I do kind of agree with you though and think that cops should be better trained to "disarm or disable" an individual instead of always going for the kill. I haven't seen too many situations where someone is still a threat with their kneecaps blasted out.
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HaRRicH posted...

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/11-team-gamefaqs/75743630?page=8

Ulti and I both posted sometime earlier in the topic and he apparently continued, often talking about leftists or whatever I saw from quotes. Since I saw he did this several times and my first post was indirectly about the type of behavior Ulti's gotten away with for a long time anyway, I thought people needed to know what he was about.

I came in on #429 and never mentioned his mental health -- decide for yourself if it was tasteless. #439 or #440 had him retaliate, where I know he mentioned him being on drugs and being suicidal at that time because of #441 and then found out it was deleted because of #463.

Is this something I should have known about him sooner as a B8 regular, or did ya'll not know too?

Not the post I am thinking about and I don't feel like looking for it. Just remember seeing one and being like... yeah... this seems to be out of the normal play book where a user tries to inadvertently mention a user has issues or insinuates they do to tear down their credibility to help their argument. Which should be unnecessary. Ulti was clearly a bit out of control in the topic and it was plain as day to see.
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Dark Young Link posted...

Though ultimately? It's all irrelevant. Him having personal issues doesn't excuse him being an intentional dick to the board.

I mean, I used to be be a douche at times in the past... you didn't see me go "But guys, I'm going through a lot...." as an excuse. I just decided to stop(Or at least try).

Do you not know the ulti playbook?

Step 1. I want everyone to like me so I suck up to them. I generally do not care about them.

Step 2. Now that I feel people like me, I want to be the center of attention and command utmost respect and popularity.

Step 3. Take trying to be the center of attention wrong and inadvertently insult or offend a bunch of people.

Step 4. Not care I offended a bunch of people because I still feel like a core enough still like me because of all the sucking up I have done.

Step 5. Realize almost no one still cares for me and I am not longer center of attention.

Step 6. Say I know I was wrong and make x through z excuse of why I acted this way and say I am in a better place or working on it now (sympathy draw)

Step 1/7. Begin sucking up to users.

Etc etc

This has played out in mafia so many times and it is ridiculous.

1. Wow corrik you seem like a good guy you should play mafia

2. Corrk and you all know I am a good person and try my best. Trust me.

3. I am the best you all fucking suck and are shitty players.

4. I am not an ass to people and it is just certain people crybabying because they suck. Hell ask Corrik or Chris. They are the best players around here. They will say I am fine.. I am fine it is all you being bitches that is the issues.

5. Wow Corrik even you are really saying my play is an issue now. Well fuck you you fucking suck also. You are terrible. You are the worst user. Anyone who acts like I am bad is a joke and you are a joke also.

6. Sorry guys works been stressful. I am trying my best but its hard and I go to a dark place sometimes when stressed. I hope you understand and don't hold it against me or ban me. I didn't mean it.

1/7 Corrik you are a good player. I didn't mean it. I really need players to fill my wrestling mafia and I need good players. I need you man. "Dude you just rampaged how much I suck and am a piece of shit". Well, I had to say that stuff because everyone was against me and you were the only other target to rally around. I didn't mean it and was just in a bad placem. Please join I need good players.

2/8. Hey everyone you seebln I am a good person and doing better. No way I should be banned. I love playing here because everyone here is so good and such great people. Please don't hold it against me cuz I had some bad times. You are all my friends and the best players I know.

3/9. You are going to lynch me because I haven't posted in 2 days and clearly never read the game? Fuck you all. I am the best here and you are all pieces of shit and terrible. You are all out just to get me and treat me like shit. Fuck you all.

4/10. Yeah last game I was upset but I was scum and trying to not get mislynched. Surely Corrik and Chris or the othet good players can explain playing to win to you.

5/11. "Ulti you are scum this game". This is fucking bullshit people are just trying to ruin my experience because they are fucking shitty people and have no life. They are pathetic. I thought better of you all but no you are all just pieces of shit. I don't even know why I play with a bunch of trolls anymore who hace nothing better to do in their lives.

6/12. Sorry guys. I am having a bad time in my life. You all aren't trolls and shouldn't ban me. I didn't mean it. Surely you understand. Yadda yadda.

Repeat ad nauseum
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StealThisSheen posted...

Kenri posted...

In the universe where he's shot to death immediately, how do you know if you averted a beating or just killed someone for no reason? I guess you could shoot him as he's actively beating you, which is pretty understandable, and that's why I think it's praiseworthy that she didn't.

(I'll admit I'm kind of unclear on the details of this -- it was the cop who got beaten half to death that didn't want to shoot, not her backup, right? Or both? I thought it was the former but I haven't read about this since it first made the news. It changes the scenario somewhat but not substantially, I guess.)

Both. She refused to shoot, but her partners also apparently did, too, as they were hurt while trying to pull the guy off of her.

And this is where we'll have to agree to disagree, mainly, since... I can't bring myself to say it's praiseworthy that she didn't shoot even while being attacked, since I think the situation would be different if she had died from the injuries. Like, I don't think anybody would be saying "Good on her for not shooting" if she died, so it's hard for me to say it when she almost died. So to me, it comes down to... Which life is more valuable, that of a good cop, or that of a violent criminal? In a perfect world, neither has to die... But this isn't a perfect world, and the cop basically lucked out in this case. I don't think good cops should have to worry about stopping violent criminals and potentially dying. A good cop shouldn't have to hesitate because of what some bad cops did.

Quality post.
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Kenri posted...

To me hesitation is part of what makes someone a good cop. You should hesitate when you're holding a gun. If ending someone's life is effortless for you mentally, I don't want you anywhere near a job where you have ample opportunity to do it.

Hesitation can cost lives and lives of other innocents.

Some situations allow for hesitation. Others clearly do not and cost you your life.

That is why a lot of scenarios regarding police you must remember that they sometimes have to just make these decisions as they come up. And, mistakes can happen in certain situations.
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Corrik posted...

this seems to be out of the normal play book where a user tries to inadvertently mention a user has issues or insinuates they do to tear down their credibility to help their argument. Which should be unnecessary.

Wait a minute... your hands aren't exactly clean when it comes to this scenario.

I'm almost pretty sure you jumped on the band wagon once or twice to try and discredit me for having mental issues in the past. (Even though I actually am bi-polar the goal wasn't to bring it to light but to troll and defame.)

Don't ask for proof because I don't save that crap.

Anyway, it seems like you are always trying to defend Ulti or give credence to his trolling behavior. Why is that? I honestly thought you had changed in the last year or so and moved away from supporting this kind of activity. Have I just not been paying close enough attention?

Edit: Welp, I guess you can skip my last statement since you ninja'd me with that Ulti breakdown.lol
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HaRRicH posted...

Do liberals here have a conservative on this board they like to argue with?

in this topic, not really.

on board 8, some. particularly foolmo. he's a total asshole and he certainly has his flaws as a debater, but he's a gazillion times better to argue with than any conservative regularly posting here.

FWIW, i think corrik is probably the best conservative in this topic - i don't think he's trolling so that makes him a lot better than most of the others by default. he's just INCREDIBLY stubborn - when someone explains he has something wrong, he'll sooner accuse that person of being a liar than consider the possibility that he's wrong. if he would be less hostile towards liberals and less convinced that his stances are undeniably correct he'd probably be a decent conservative to argue with.
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Se7enthrust posted...

Corrik posted...

this seems to be out of the normal play book where a user tries to inadvertently mention a user has issues or insinuates they do to tear down their credibility to help their argument. Which should be unnecessary.

Wait a minute... your hands aren't exactly clean when it comes to this scenario.

I'm almost pretty sure you jumped on the band wagon once or twice to try and discredit me for having mental issues in the past. (Even though I actually am bi-polar the goal wasn't to bring it to light but to troll and defame.)

Don't ask for proof because I don't save that crap.

Anyway, it seems like you are always trying to defend Ulti or give credence to his trolling behavior. Why is that? I honestly thought you had changed in the last year or so and moved away from supporting this kind of activity. Have I just not been paying close enough attention?

Edit: Welp, I guess you can skip my last statement since you ninja'd me with that Ulti breakdown.lol

I don't support Ulti's antics. He occassionally makes a good argument but he too much is out of control.

I am saying that if you are discussing a political discussion of some sort and saying "well you know I won't bring up your supposed mental issues in the past..." as part of your preface to your argument is just dumb.
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