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SantaRPidgey posted...

what is your move when you are talking to a woman in a brief period of time and you will probably never see her again after that conversation? If there's a better move for that specific scenario I would love to hear it.

There isn't one. Don't ask her. Talk to a different woman.

If you don't have time to ask anything else then you don't have any reason to be that commited to her. And if you're just looking to hook up with a hot chick then I feel zero sympathy for you. Have some self control.
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SantaRPidgey posted...

what is your move when you are talking to a woman in a brief period of time and you will probably never see her again after that conversation? If there's a better move for that specific scenario I would love to hear it.

You're not entitled to future interaction with any particular woman
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Isn't Brie Larson engaged?
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Imagine being so bad at interacting with women that bothering a stranger for their phone number at work sounds like a good idea. Like there's no other place you can meet attractive women.

SantaRPidgey posted...

LordoftheMorons posted...

Like, it's easy to rationalize that it's not that big a deal to be asked for your number without any interaction by one guy one time, but if a similar experience happens, say, every few days to you it would really start to wear on you after a while. And that's the reality that many women live with.

This is kind of the crux of a lot of social justice movements, and of course its nonsense. People being annoying is not the same thing as people being problematic.

Oh. You're one of those.
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LapisLazuli posted...

There isn't one. Don't ask her. Talk to a different woman.

so that brings my .1 percent down to zero. Thats not a better pick up move, and if you limit yourself to "pick up moves people don't think are annoying" you're down to zero overall.

LapisLazuli posted...

If you don't have time to ask anything else then you don't have any reason to be that commited to her. And if you're just looking to hook up with a hot chick then I feel zero sympathy for you. Have some self control.

Ok so listen, I personally am never looking for someone to roast and ghost, but that's not any reason for you to shame people who are a little more sex positive? Some people like to just have sex with each other, male and female, it's not a matter of "self control"
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Imagine being so bad at interacting with women that you think that simply asking them for their number is some massive burden you're placing on them.
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SantaRPidgey posted...

so that brings my .1 percent down to zero. Thats not a better pick up move, and if you limit yourself to "pick up moves people don't think are annoying" you're down to zero overall.

...You don't have any other moves other than walking up to a woman and asking for her number?

Maybe that 1 in a 1000 is for a different reason.
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does anyone else find it amusing that ltm of all people is acting like an expert on asking women out
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Lopen posted...

Imagine being so bad at interacting with women that you think that simply asking them for their number is some massive burden you're placing on them.

I kinda gotta agree with this. Like, again... Yeah, it's unprofessional.

But to act like it's some super creepy thing, some massive burden, some horrible slight... It just makes it sound like you haven't had very many social interactions with women.

It's not worth getting upset over on EITHER side.
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LordoftheMorons posted...

You're not entitled to future interaction with any particular woman

Who said I was? I'm asking for a future interaction, if she refuses, that's fine. If the issue was that the TSA dude pushed her after she said no, then that's a different story, and I imagine we'd be in this topic unanimously agreeing with each other.

I know it's weird to think guys but some women out there enjoy being asked out, even some of the ones that are annoyed by it. If there was a way to know which were which without asking politely we'd probably be in some sort of Orwellian future with distinct and bizarre consequences.

I also want to point out, I'm not entitled to ANY interaction with ANYone, so if I try to smile, talk to, or wave at a woman and I get a cold stare right past me, that's 100% ok. There's no obligation to give someone your attention if you don't feel like it
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MariaTaylor posted...

does anyone else find it amusing that ltm of all people is acting like an expert on asking women out

I do.

It's absolutely incredible that people can be worse than me at it.
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LapisLazuli posted...

MariaTaylor posted...

does anyone else find it amusing that ltm of all people is acting like an expert on asking women out

I do.

It's absolutely incredible that people can be worse than me at it.

Well, from the way this topic is going, I don't think you gotta worry about that
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LapisLazuli posted...

...You don't have any other moves other than walking up to a woman and asking for her number?

Maybe that 1 in a 1000 is for a different reason.

We are talking specifically about the scenario we listed.

If you'd like to have a topic about my pick up methods, I'm sorry but those are classified until I'm married again, frankly this board already knows too much.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

MariaTaylor posted...

does anyone else find it amusing that ltm of all people is acting like an expert on asking women out

It's more amusing anyone has him unblocked. Dude is a miserable, hated human being in every circle he's tried being a part of on here.

the only people I put on ignore are like the weird robots that do nothing except post asinine polls
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(and that's just for convenience sake. it moves all other topics up and removes the ones that I know I would never click on)
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Also, for the record, LtM is an awesome user.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

LordoftheMorons posted...

You're not entitled to future interaction with any particular woman

http://www.doctornerdlove.com/white-knight-syndrome/all/1/

epic dude
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SantaRPidgey posted...

what is your move when you are talking to a woman in a brief period of time and you will probably never see her again after that conversation? If there's a better move for that specific scenario I would love to hear it.

Here's how I see it. If you just want a casual hookup then you might as well go for it (I know you said you weren't into casual hookups, but, like, in theory). But if you want a serious relationship then I feel like this is a weird move regardless because when you're just talking to someone for that short an amount of time, they're basically a total stranger -- how can you know you want a relationship with them? At that point I feel like it's a 100% crapshoot whether the person is even someone you'd want to be friends with, let alone in a more serious relationship.

I'm not really criticizing you because if you think you see something and you have just one shot, sure, go for it. I just feel 99% of the time you are going to be wasting your time, and that's assuming she says yes.
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he seems like he just has issues with women honestly. like, asking a woman out is creepy? really? if you think women are so mentally fragile that they cannot handle the strain of being asked on a date then you are straight up a complete sexist.

ltm just get over your internalized sexism and stop taking it out on everyone else.
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SantaRPidgey posted...

Who said I was? I'm asking for a future interaction, if she refuses, that's fine. If the issue was that the TSA dude pushed her after she said no, then that's a different story, and I imagine we'd be in this topic unanimously agreeing with each other.

Well, you're only led to the conclusion that you have to ask her out despite not being in a situation in which it's appropriate because you ruled out the possibility that there is no acceptable opportunity to ask the girl out and that you should just suck it up and try later with another girl under more appropriate circumstances.
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aw yeah L "logan" O "pen" pen agrees with me
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It's weird when 100% of people in a topic are wrong
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I mean my ex-wife asked for my number when she was a waitress in a restaurant I went to and we were together for 7 years so I feel like it's not impossible.

The truth is, asking for a number in a weird scenario is kind of like steroids for the longevity of a relationship. People like having a cute story of how they met, and it helps keep the relationship strong.

"haha he was this creeper TSA guy and he asked for my number" is a much better story a woman wants to tell than "oh we met as friends of friends"
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It's entirely unprofessional for the security guy to try and ask for a girl's number in that situation, but it's also totally ridiculous to imply that a woman has to live life on defense because Brie Larson had some airport security guy ask for her number.

Not a big deal IMO, security guy shouldn't have done it but it also doesn't matter much. I don't think it's crazy to think that saying no and moving on is a proper response to that situation, nor is it crazy to think that the security guy would never do anything bad given that response.
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wtf identified 18 year old has common sense WTF ban this topic /herp derp pragmatic social commentary better kill myself
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SantaRPidgey posted...

The truth is, asking for a number in a weird scenario is kind of like steroids for the longevity of a relationship. People like having a cute story of how they met, and it helps keep the relationship strong.

Meeting your wife on a failed terrorist suicide mission also makes for a cool story but that doesn't make terrorist suicide missions okay
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Better down better chemicals I say only real sucidal people drink Deoxybutin2Cyclone
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Drakeryn posted...

If you just want a casual hookup then you might as well go for it (I know you said you weren't into casual hookups, but, like, in theory). But if you want a serious relationship then I feel like this is a weird move regardless because when you're just talking to someone for that short an amount of time, they're basically a total stranger -- how can you know you want a relationship with them?

Well, I mean, you could possibly want a more serious relationship.

It's of course impossible to know at that moment, but after a date, you may have a better idea, or you may have just had a one and done casual hookup. But it's impossible to know ever if you don't ask for a number, given that situation, since you will likely never see this person again.

Given that situation, it's basically just someone has piqued your basest amount of curiosity enough that you would like a proper chance to interact with them in a way that isn't the hustle and bustle of the airport, and maybe go from there, maybe not. You're not asking them to move in with you for crissakes.
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LordoftheMorons posted...

Well, you're only led to the conclusion that you have to ask her out despite not being in a situation in which it's appropriate because you ruled out the possibility that there is no acceptable opportunity to ask the girl out and that you should just suck it up and try later with another girl under more appropriate circumstances.

"If you spend all day shuffling words around you can make anything sound bad"

You're using "appropriate" as if it's a constant. It's not. We don't have a universally accepted rulebook of interactions.
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holy shit of course there are people here defending this entitled bitch
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SantaRPidgey posted...

Also, for the record, LtM is an awesome user.

I resent that.
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Solioxrz362 posted...

It's entirely unprofessional for the security guy to try and ask for a girl's number in that situation, but it's also totally ridiculous to imply that a woman has to live life on defense because Brie Larson had some airport security guy ask for her number.

If every dude you smiled at thought they had a shot you would probably be a little more guarded with your smile. I'm sure the amount of creepers Brie Larson encounters is higher than the average person though.
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I'll admit that I'm being biased by being hardcore anti hookup culture. I never have or would want to ask a girl out that I didn't already know I had actual interest in trying to be with.

If just wanting to get with chicks is something you actually want to do, then you probably see the world in a different way than I do.
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MariaTaylor posted...

he seems like he just has issues with women honestly. like, asking a woman out is creepy? really? if you think women are so mentally fragile that they cannot handle the strain of being asked on a date then you are straight up a complete sexist.

ltm just get over your internalized sexism and stop taking it out on everyone else.

he belongs to the white knight order of Tumblr, the Tumblrinas
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The most noteworthy thing I've read from either the twitter thread or this one is that Brie Larson wants to "create a network" which "cannot be stopped"

Like, what
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lordloki12 posted...

Solioxrz362 posted...

It's entirely unprofessional for the security guy to try and ask for a girl's number in that situation, but it's also totally ridiculous to imply that a woman has to live life on defense because Brie Larson had some airport security guy ask for her number.

If every dude you smiled at thought they had a shot you would probably be a little more guarded with your smile. I'm sure the amount of creepers Brie Larson encounters is higher than the average person though.

It'd possibly get annoying if I was a girl and every guy I smiled at asked me for my number, yes. I would tell them no and move on, and maybe smile at guys less.

I don't know if I would claim that I have to live life on defense because of it though. If I were an attractive person (like Brie Larson is), I would get asked for my number more than less attractive people. Not a big deal. It's human nature in a way. Attractive people attract people. It's not something that would hurt my quality of life.
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foolm0r0n posted...

Meeting your wife on a failed terrorist suicide mission also makes for a cool story but that doesn't make terrorist suicide missions okay

that argument wasn't to justify the act itself, but to justify using the act to find someone who you're planning on more than hook up with. It was directed at Draykern
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Maybe it's because I'm not a "strong, powerful" female who nonetheless lives in a constant state of irrational fear of being raped, but I'm failing to see the difference between being asked for my number and being asked if I want a sample of orange chicken from the Panda Express employee in the food court.

"No thanks."

"Ok no problem, bye."

*traumatic event over*
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Tim, you probably shouldn't be calling anyone an entitled bitch in a vacuum with your moderation history.

Shockingly that's a legit piece of advice that should really be common sense. I don't beleive you've lasted more than a couple weeks at a time in like....a year.
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lordloki12 posted...

I'm sure the amount of creepers Brie Larson encounters is higher than the average person though.

Probably below average since he is ridiculously attractive. Men are extremely weak and protective of their egos so they will often avoid going for women like that. The "average" girl will get more attention.
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well, she could have lived life on the offense and asked for his number instead

i also like how if this TSA agent was attractive all of a sudden the same behavior is flattering
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The real power move is getting one of those phones that share contacts with touch and just walking around bumping pockets with as many hot women as possible.

That may not be how they work off the factory line, but I'm sure that jailbreak is on the way.

And then another jailbreak shortly after.
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Solioxrz362 posted...

lordloki12 posted...

Solioxrz362 posted...

It's entirely unprofessional for the security guy to try and ask for a girl's number in that situation, but it's also totally ridiculous to imply that a woman has to live life on defense because Brie Larson had some airport security guy ask for her number.

If every dude you smiled at thought they had a shot you would probably be a little more guarded with your smile. I'm sure the amount of creepers Brie Larson encounters is higher than the average person though.

It'd possibly get annoying if I was a girl and every guy I smiled at asked me for my number, yes. I would tell them no and move on, and maybe smile at guys less.

I don't know if I would claim that I have to live life on defense because of it though. If I were an attractive person (like Brie Larson is), I would get asked for my number more than less attractive people. Not a big deal. It's human nature in a way. Attractive people attract people. It's not something that would hurt my quality of life.

It isn't just people asking for girls' numbers. It's also creepy comments, catcalls, other sexual harassment, etc. This is definitely on the less bad end of that spectrum (and I'm not saying that the TSA agent is automatically a terrible person for doing it), but it all contributes to same problem to varying degrees.
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How do you equate asking for someone's number to sexual harassment
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LapisLazuli posted...

The real power move is getting one of those phones that share contacts with touch and just walking around bumping pockets with as many hot women as possible.

That may not be how they work off the factory line, but I'm sure that jailbreak is on the way.

And then another jailbreak shortly after.

oh damn you do have moves
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