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For the record I'm pretty close to the furthest thing from a pickup artist you can be while still being socially functional.

I'm just a normal guy who is capable of talking to women, realizes that asking or being asked for a number is not a big deal unless you make it one, and who realizes the reality of the situation of meeting someone in an airport.

Like I'm not even really trying to be insulting when I say "this says more about you"-- this is legitimately what I think. If your vision of a guy asking a girl for her number is one that is creepy by default, then like, you probably either haven't ever done it or you've done it in such an awkward way that of course it'd be creepy. It's just not a big deal.
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I just double check and confirmed that not single person in this topic who has brought up how it isn't weird to ask a girl for her number has added the specific connotation of it being the first thing he said.

Lopen, are you saying that you would be completely cool with walking up to a woman you've never met, having her turn towards you, and the first thing you say is "give me your number"?
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Lopen posted...

Imagine being so bad at interacting with women that you think that simply asking them for their number is some massive burden you're placing on them.

imagine being so dense that you leave out context in order to make your point

there's a difference between this and chatting her up in a social situation and asking for the number. i'm starting to think you're leaving this crucial detail out just to bolster your own point. i haven't read all the posts in this thread, so i can't comment on if anyone is literally saying this, but the gist of what i'm getting from reading the thread is that it was done while he was at work, which is what made it inappropriate
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holy shit is Corrik seriously gonna @Lopen to white knight him from now on because of the politics topic
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Woah I just had a blackout.
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GranzonEx posted...

How do you equate asking for someone's number to sexual harassment

I'm not. I'm saying they both contribute to an unfortunate reality of constantly receiving unwanted advances. This is similar to how minorities deal with a ton of implicit bias in addition to whatever overt racism they encounter. Those two things are not the same (and are not morally equivalent), but they both are real contributions to the problem that need to be addressed.
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The best job I ever had was the one where I interacted with other college students daily, and man oh man did I hit on plenty a lady.

For her to have this reaction, my gut tells me that either she's just a lame person or the TSA agent in question was super creepy and repulsive looking. If a normal dude steps up to the plate and politely strikes out, the girl walks away with an ego boost and nothing else is said of it.
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LordoftheMorons posted...

It isn't just people asking for girls' numbers. It's also creepy comments, catcalls, other sexual harassment, etc. This is definitely on the less bad end of that spectrum (and I'm not saying that the TSA agent is automatically a terrible person for doing it), but it all contributes to same problem to varying degrees.

Catcalls are wrong, sexual harassment is wrong, actual creepy comments are not acceptable.

I am talking about asking for a girl's number when you think she's attractive, which is what happened to Brie Larson, not accompanied by any of those other things that are wrong. It is unprofessional to do if you're on the job (anywhere, but especially if you work in a position of authority), but not wrong. It doesn't cross any moral boundary IMO. I don't even think asking for a girl's number, isolated as a single event that was not preceded or followed by any actually wrong thing, is on the same spectrum as those actually wrong things.
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CaptainOfCrush posted...

For her to have this reaction, my gut tells me that either she's just a lame person or the TSA agent in question was super creepy and repulsive looking.

or maybe she just doesn't want to be hit on when going about her business
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LapisLazuli posted...

Lopen, are you saying that you would be completely cool with walking up to a woman you've never met, having her turn towards you, and the first thing you say is "give me your number"?

Carly Rae Jepsen made a whole song about it and no one gave her a hard time about it!
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LapisLazuli posted...

I just double check and confirmed that not single person in this topic who has brought up how it isn't weird to ask a girl for her number has added the specific connotation of it being the first thing he said.

Lopen, are you saying that you would be completely cool with walking up to a woman you've never met, having her turn towards you, and the first thing you say is "give me your number"?

To be fair, she doesn't say it's the first thing HE said to her. She just says that her smile lead to him asking for his number. For all we know, he could have been trying to chat her up, told a joke, something, she smiled in response, and then he asked for the number.

And considering she follows it up by retweeting somebody who says "it sucks that women being polite is seen as an invitation for harassment by men (and sometimes can be the other way around)," that actually sounds like the case.
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Did Ulti just quote and respond to the exact same post two times in a row?
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Looks at topic title

The real answer:

https://myanimelist.net/anime/36259/Pingu_in_the_City/stats
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And then he @s him....new B8 crush?

I smell romance!
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Theo72 posted...

or maybe she just doesn't want to be hit on when going about her business

Sure but her posts about her "ordeal" are over-the-top lame.
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StealThisSheen posted...

LapisLazuli posted...

I just double check and confirmed that not single person in this topic who has brought up how it isn't weird to ask a girl for her number has added the specific connotation of it being the first thing he said.

Lopen, are you saying that you would be completely cool with walking up to a woman you've never met, having her turn towards you, and the first thing you say is "give me your number"?

To be fair, she doesn't say it's the first thing HE said to her. She just says that her smile lead to him asking for his number. For all we know, he could have been trying to chat her up, told a joke, something, she smiled in response, and then he asked for the number.

And considering she follows it up by retweeting somebody who says "it sucks that women being polite is seen as an invitation for harassment by men (and sometimes can be the other way around)," that actually sounds like the case.

That would be very different if so. Then the only issue is the unprofessionalism
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LordoftheMorons posted...

. This is similar to how minorities deal with a ton of implicit bias in addition to whatever overt racism they encounter

ok no the fuck it's not sit your white ass down
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LordoftheMorons posted...

GranzonEx posted...

How do you equate asking for someone's number to sexual harassment

I'm not. I'm saying they both contribute to an unfortunate reality of constantly receiving unwanted advances. This is similar to how minorities deal with a ton of implicit bias in addition to whatever overt racism they encounter. Those two things are not the same (and are not morally equivalent), but they both are real contributions to the problem that need to be addressed.

uh what

UltimaterializerX posted...

GranzonEx posted...

How do you equate asking for someone's number to sexual harassment

Go read the politics topic some time, and take note of how awkward the users in that topic are.

Those are the same types of people pushing the narrative you speak of. It's not hard to figure out bro.

I try to avoid circle jerks whenever possible :^)

Pointless to argue with self loathing anti-America nutjobs
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LapisLazuli posted...

That would be very different if so.

So... a corny joke or three lines of dialogue is enough to make it not creepy? Your line in the sand is in a super weird place.
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GranzonEx posted...

I try to avoid circle jerks whenever possible :^)

Liar, you're with b8anime.
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An attempt was made to be human, and you can try and gauge whether someone is uncomfortable or not. Seems like the least effort that could be made.
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JetJaguar posted...

holy shit of course there are people here defending this entitled bitch

Im in the she was uncomfortable that sucks the end camp.

This shes a bitch and liberals rahrah anger makes no sense. Like honestly who cares?
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I mean, to be fair, she really did go from 0 to 60 in like, two seconds.

I merely smiled at a TSA agent and he asked for my phone number. To live life as a woman is to live life on the defense.

As always, I stand with the brave survivors of sexual assault and harassment. It's not your fault. I believe you.

it sucks that women being polite is seen as an invitation for harassment by men (and sometimes can be the other way around)

But, yeah. It shouldn't be a big deal on either side. Dude was a bit unprofessional, she blew it up too much, but all in all... Who cares?
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StealThisSheen posted...

I mean, to be fair, she really did go from 0 to 60 in like, two seconds.

I merely smiled at a TSA agent and he asked for my phone number. To live life as a woman is to live life on the defense.

As always, I stand with the brave survivors of sexual assault and harassment. It's not your fault. I believe you.

it sucks that women being polite is seen as an invitation for harassment by men (and sometimes can be the other way around)

But, yeah. It shouldn't be a big deal on either side. Dude was a bit unprofessional, she blew it up too much, but all in all... Who cares?

I agree
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LapisLazuli posted...

That would be very different if so. Then the only issue is the unprofessionalism

I have never in my life seen or heard an interaction begin with "can I have your number." I think most people would assume the situation played out more like the one SEP described versus the agent literally mouthing "number" as soon as he saw her.
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That's what Santa says he does!
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Corrik @s me all the time nothing to do with recent politics topic.

Also I think the distinction of it being at work makes it unprofessional. Have said that from the start.
Unprofessional != creepy though.
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LapisLazuli posted...

Am attempt was made to be human, and you can gauge whether someone is uncomfortable or not. Seems like the least effort that could be made.

Ok that's fair, I'll give you that. Though I would argue you can do more with non-verbal communication at that stage than verbal.

Also, yeah I want to make it clear (sadly I have to) I got nothing against brie larson. If she felt uncomfortable, I have genuine sympathy for her, no one likes an interaction that makes you feel weird in a public place. The fact that she took this so heavy strikes me as really odd, but that doesn't mean she's a bitch (Why would it? [this is a rhetorical question please don't attempt to genuinely respond])
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LapisLazuli posted...

That's what Santa says he does!

You have to understand I don't just walk up to a woman unsolicited and ask "HEY I WANT YOUR NUMBER" Usually there will be signaling between the two of us before that takes place. I didn't specify that because I figured it would be assumed.
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Well.

Then.

I have been lied to for the last time tonight.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

LordoftheMorons posted...

GranzonEx posted...

How do you equate asking for someone's number to sexual harassment

I'm not. I'm saying they both contribute to an unfortunate reality of constantly receiving unwanted advances. This is similar to how minorities deal with a ton of implicit bias in addition to whatever overt racism they encounter. Those two things are not the same (and are not morally equivalent), but they both are real contributions to the problem that need to be addressed.

Your presence on Board 8 is an unwanted advance and yet you're still here, therefore you are sexually assaulting us.

This is literally the exact logic you're using.

(@GranzonExzon, dudes like this are exactly what I'm talking about.)

They love to just follow you and Vlado and Corrik around and harass you. But it's not harassment because you're white. That's how they justify their circle jerk.

WhiteLens posted...

GranzonEx posted...

I try to avoid circle jerks whenever possible :^)

Liar, you're with b8anime.

It's the only circlejerk that lets me make fun of myself for liking Chinese children's cartoons from Area 11!
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honestly I wasn't expecting santa to be as flirty as he was when I visited
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I don't remember flirting with anyone around you except cute denim girl

really wish I was going through a divorce before I picked you up from the airport because cute denim girl was totally a woman I would have gotten the number from.
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and the bikini barista!

but even denim it's like as soon as I'm off the plane you're already on the hunt
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oh well bikini baristas don't count! They charge you extra for the coffee and in return you get to be a little flirty guilt free.
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GranzonEx posted...

They love to just follow you and Vlado and Corrik around and harass you. But it's not harassment because you're white. That's how they justify their circle jerk.

Are you going full parody right now?
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well yes I considered that fact butt still
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

This shes a bitch and liberals rahrah anger makes no sense. Like honestly who cares?

I think it's an accumulation of hearing about this kind of thing all the time. There are people who are sick, poor, starving, or you know, actually being harassed, and this rich woman makes a huge stink because a guy asked for her number? I imagine a lot of people who are struggling with real problems feel a bit irritated by this, even if I don't personally I can at least understand it. I do get a little annoyed by the constant whining about such minor things though
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MZero11 posted...

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

This shes a bitch and liberals rahrah anger makes no sense. Like honestly who cares?

I think it's an accumulation of hearing about this kind of thing all the time. There are people who are sick, poor, starving, or you know, actually being harassed, and this rich woman makes a huge stink because a guy asked for her number? I imagine a lot of people who are struggling with real problems feel a bit irritated by this, even if I don't personally I can at least understand it. I do get a little annoyed by the constant whining about such minor things though

There are people who are sick, poor, starving, and you guys are spending your time focusing on this rich woman who literally just used Twitter?
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MZero11 posted...

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

This shes a bitch and liberals rahrah anger makes no sense. Like honestly who cares?

I think it's an accumulation of hearing about this kind of thing all the time. There are people who are sick, poor, starving, or you know, actually being harassed, and this rich woman makes a huge stink because a guy asked for her number? I imagine a lot of people who are struggling with real problems feel a bit irritated by this, even if I don't personally I can at least understand it. I do get a little annoyed by the constant whining about such minor things though

So you think that single incidents of complaining about things like this aren't a big deal, but the accumulation of tons of those complaints is annoying. That's literally the exact same logic behind why a number of incidents like this, while not a big deal in isolation, become a draining part of life for some people. I really doubt that Larson would have written the tweet if it was the only such interaction she had experienced.
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Holy fuck that FFD exchange lmao
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MZero11 posted...

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

This shes a bitch and liberals rahrah anger makes no sense. Like honestly who cares?

I think it's an accumulation of hearing about this kind of thing all the time. There are people who are sick, poor, starving, or you know, actually being harassed, and this rich woman makes a huge stink because a guy asked for her number? I imagine a lot of people who are struggling with real problems feel a bit irritated by this, even if I don't personally I can at least understand it. I do get a little annoyed by the constant whining about such minor things though

I mean... huge stink? She tweeted about how she didn't like it, it's not like she got the guy fired or something. People tweet about dumb stuff they don't like all the time, it's what Twitter is for.
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LordoftheMorons posted...

I really doubt that Larson would have written the tweet if it was the only such interaction she had experienced.

Eh, to be fair, she's a poor example for your point. She's gotten super preachy lately and is jumping at any opportunity she gets, so I wouldn't be surprised if this one interaction really was sorta a "I can use this as a platform" kind of thing.

Doesn't really take much away from your argument, though.
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MZero11 posted...

I imagine a lot of people who are struggling with real problems feel a bit irritated by this

Yeah and there's starving kids in Africa so finish your peas!

What kind of childish logic is this. This notion that compassion is a zero sum game. Just be honest and admit you hate hearing stuff like this because it makes you uncomfortable. Faux compassion is the worst way to cover yourself up.
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also would anyone who's mad at her actually like to be propositioned by a TSA agent?

I can't see how that would be appealing to anyone.
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Look at the anti-men crap SJW "comedians" are putting out now to stop men from talking to women. This kind of nonsense would never have come out 10 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTFZyl7hfBw
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I don't actually know who Brie Larson is.
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