Board 8 > Freedom, Liberty, Ron Paul - Reject the politics of healthy eating [dwmf]

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SmartMuffin posted...

Nor has any specific person that you can/will actually point to.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/10/18/sessions-says-he-cant-make-a-blanket-commitment-not-to-jail-journalists/
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How many left-wingers has Trump/Sessions actually jailed for offensive speech?
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SmartMuffin posted...

How many left-wingers has Trump/Sessions actually jailed for offensive speech?

so because they haven't done this yet, their comments are totally fine?
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

SmartMuffin posted...

How many left-wingers has Trump/Sessions actually jailed for offensive speech?

so because they haven't done this yet, their comments are totally fine?

In comparison to those who have already jailed hundreds? YES!!!

This is like when some Muslim terrorist murders 10 people and every right-thinking progressive shows up to insist that "the real tragedy would be if this led to an increase in Islamophobia!" No, the real tragedy is the ten dead people you partisan fuck!
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SmartMuffin posted...

In comparison to those who have already jailed hundreds? YES!!!

the scottish government has jailed hundreds of people for making tasteless nazi jokes?! i agree, that's really horrible.
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SmartMuffin posted...

How many left-wingers has Trump/Sessions actually jailed for offensive speech?

Moving the goalposts I see

But heres one!
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/10/reporter-arrested-while-asking-health-chief-tom-price-questions.html
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Jakyl25 posted...

SmartMuffin posted...

How many left-wingers has Trump/Sessions actually jailed for offensive speech?

Moving the goalposts I see

But heres one!
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/10/reporter-arrested-while-asking-health-chief-tom-price-questions.html

oh come on, that's not even close to the same thing and you know it
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https://twitter.com/amber_athey/status/975858897666936833

at least as scientifically valid of a model as those being used to predict climate change
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Theyre both jailing people for speech the state doesnt like. I fail to see the difference.
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Also and you know it is such a BS Ulti-style rhetorical tactic
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He was essentially charged with trespassing/disturbing the peace, not for the specific content of his speech
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Thats not why he was arrested and you know it
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SmartMuffin posted...

Mr Lasastryke posted...

SmartMuffin posted...

How many left-wingers has Trump/Sessions actually jailed for offensive speech?

so because they haven't done this yet, their comments are totally fine?

In comparison to those who have already jailed hundreds? YES!!!

This is like when some Muslim terrorist murders 10 people and every right-thinking progressive shows up to insist that "the real tragedy would be if this led to an increase in Islamophobia!" No, the real tragedy is the ten dead people you partisan fuck!

one of my favorite norm macdonald jokes
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Oh god is Muffin stealing jokes without credit now?
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it's not really a joke so much as it was a hilarious jab at Margaret Cho on his podcast
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Jakyl25 posted...

Thats not why he was arrested and you know it

If your point is that he wouldn't have been arrested if he was asking questions they wanted to be asked, then yes, you're right.

Conversely, people aren't trespassing on my property if I invite them and they behave themselves.
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I still dont understand how the concept of property works from a libertarian mindset

If worse comes to worst and everything goes fucking terribly, keep fighting for free speech, the great meme war."

I mean, my eyes are my property and your memelord put this shit there uninvited.
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https://www.theonion.com/my-god-i-ve-discovered-the-missing-link-in-the-russia-1823923525
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SmartMuffin posted...

And you try and lump this guy in with that even though he has never called for his political opponents to be jailed for their speech. Nor have I. Nor has any specific person that you can/will actually point to. Just vague accusations and guilt by association.

I don't give a shit what anyone calls for. That's just words. I don't give a shit about right or left either, we don't even know what this guy's politics is.

I care about actions and cultural decisions that leads to actual changes.

Jailing him for that video is obviously bad, even Lasa wouldn't defend that. If you just to jerk off about that for 30 posts with people who only see red vs blue then Vlado has a great topic for you.

The reality is, this guy is hurting the true sentiment of free speech. All edgelords are. They believe they are defending it, but they are hurting it in a very real way. All for the sake of never admitting anything you've done could possibly be wrong.

Why is that so insanely important? Can't you see how that fanaticism is the foundation of American statism?
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Wow 20 whole posts arguing about completely irrelevant republicans

I sure am the one spewing bullshit in this topic
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-19/bitcoin-bust-reminds-morgan-stanley-of-nasdaq-crash-but-faster

What they don't mention, of course, is that the NASDAQ today isn't worth zero, but rather, is worth about 1.5x what it was in 2000.
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today i voted in a referendum against a law that would make it easier for my government to monitor phone conversations. you guys can be proud of me!
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LMAO their exhibit 1. Both the X and Y axes are at different scales and offsets. I'm pretty sure there's a mathematical theorem that says you can make any 2 charts look similar if you're allowed to adjust scales.

Anyways, the point is, if crypto is following the tech bubble now, which crypto is the Amazon or Google?
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

today i voted in a referendum against a law that would make it easier for my government to monitor phone conversations. you guys can be proud of me!

Too bad voting doesn't matter

I could prob buy your phone calls from the CIA right now if I had the connections. The US is close friends with the Netherlands.
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foolm0r0n posted...

Too bad voting doesn't matter

especially because this particular kind of referendum doesn't legally require the government to actually follow the result. it's just a fun way for the government to gauge what the people think, i guess.
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/austin-bomber-dead-suspect-kills-himself-early-today-round-rock-tx-2018-03-21-live-updates/

Man the FBI is becoming way too obvious with their murder suicides. Can't identify the body, sure...
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foolm0r0n posted...

LMAO their exhibit 1. Both the X and Y axes are at different scales and offsets. I'm pretty sure there's a mathematical theorem that says you can make any 2 charts look similar if you're allowed to adjust scales.

Anyways, the point is, if crypto is following the tech bubble now, which crypto is the Amazon or Google?

Exactly. People really don't understand bubbles very well at all. Almost all of them eventually recovered. Except Tulips I guess, but that's a Dutch thing. American bubbles rebound in the long term!

If you could time travel back to 1999, "Don't invest in any internet companies!" would be fucking terrible advice.
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Tulips weren't a bubble either
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http://takimag.com/article/diversity_bridge_is_falling_down_my_fair_lady_david_cole/print#axzz5AILbfJrU
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that article is shit.
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https://xkcd.com/385/

Plus that's an insane amount of text for a point that is summarized pretty succinctly laid out in the last 2 paragraphs. I guess the rest is a ton of cheering of racism and nazism for the sake of the commenters.

But actually it was miscalculations by the engineers that caused the accident. The company is known for rushing construction and cutting tons of corners which resulted in several collapses before. This time, they skipped adding the crucial center support for the bridge so obviously it fell. Also it was a bunch of dudes fault:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/was-all-female-responsible-bridge-collapse/

That's why taki's (last 2 paragraphs) point is good. This was, as usual, a bunch of dumbass greedy white men who killed a bunch of people, but it was presented as a woman-led thing, so diversity gets the blame.

Or does it? If you are an intelligent person who wants to avoid bridges killing people in the future, knowing that it wasn't diversity's fault, are you going to keep blaming women just to spite some lefty marketing team? Or are you going to blame the shitty engineers and CEOs who have actual blood on their hands?
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This is an extremely common phenomenon btw, for centuries. The majority race/gender gets all the credit for success, while minorities are scapegoated for any failures. Stupid people love the simplicity of these spins so it's very popular.
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lol, the exit poll of the referendum indicates that it's going to be a 50/50 split.

a lot of people here are so deadly afraid of islamic terrorism that they think "it's ABSOLUTELY necessary for the government to monitor everyone's phone conversations," even though the last islamic terrorist attack here was 14 fucking years ago.
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To be fair if you're still using a phone to call people you're probably a terrorist
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my grandma is a terrorist
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foolm0r0n posted...

This is an extremely common phenomenon btw, for centuries. The majority race/gender gets all the credit for success, while minorities are scapegoated for any failures. Stupid people love the simplicity of these spins so it's very popular.

Its the opposite tho - at least by all the actual authorities. The only people claiming what you are suggesting are right-wing fringe bloggers.

They marched in this strong black woman to show her daughter that women could also build bridges when everything seemed fine. But then the second it collapsed, they threw up STRONG BLACK WOMAN HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS BRIDGE!!!! disclaimers all over the place.

So which was it? Were they lying when they gave her the credit for a seeming success? Or are they lying now when they say she had nothing to do with the project?
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I searched quite a bit to find that snopes article, everything else on google was "fringe" bloggers cheering the demise of diversity. Maybe all the lefties are too afraid to comment on the event or something.

But if the point is that media will use whatever spin they want regardless of the facts, then yes that's my point.

SmartMuffin posted...

Were they lying when they gave her the credit for a seeming success?

Obviously this one. If you actually look at what they did, it's pure marketing nonsense. It also makes sense when you see that the companies behind this don't give a shit about construction and are all about gimmicks that have backfired multiple times.
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Obviously this one. If you actually look at what they did, it's pure marketing nonsense.

Cool. So, given this, the next time I read some article about a STRONG BLACK WOMAN who did some impressive scientific thing to show her daughter that she could follow her dreams - should I take it at face value? Or assume it's a bunch of lies made up for marketing purposes?
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SmartMuffin posted...

So, given this, the next time I read some article about a STRONG BLACK WOMAN who did some impressive scientific thing to show her daughter that she could follow her dreams - should I take it at face value? Or assume it's a bunch of lies made up for marketing purposes?

depends. there's no scientific law that determines whether or not you should take an article seriously.

given how often you take bullshit articles from extremely questionable sources at face value and how often you dismiss legit articles, i'm not sure why you care though!!
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SmartMuffin posted...

should I take it at face value?

How about you look at the facts and think for yourself? Is that still an option nowadays?
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2018/03/20/box-office-black-panther-has-become-hollywoods-worst-nightmare/#543b8da0566a

For example, diversity wouldn't be credited for the success of a movie. But it would be credited with the decimation of the box office (as if seeings movies is a zero-sum game??)

The article is totally true though. My first reaction to the movie was also how unbelievably wide its themes were without being bland. It's definitely Disney's most brilliant execution of a universally appealing movie, something they tried and (somewhat) failed at with TLJ.

It did fail to say anything powerful though. Of course it's Marvel so they need to play it safe, but I wonder if a focus on hyper-diversity necessitates that - to ensure no one can disagree and feel left out.
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http://thedailyfacepalm.com/2018/03/fbi-sees-surge-job-applications-reports-mccabes-retirement-package/

I met the founder/author of this site on the Contra Cruise last year. He started out kinda rough but is starting to find his groove.
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https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/976545731560595457

the worst part is, when they get destroyed in the next election, the media will be like ITS BECAUSE THEY WERE TOO CONSERVATIVE AND RACIST and everyone (including the republicans themselves) will believe it
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SmartMuffin posted...

https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/976545731560595457

the worst part is, when they get destroyed in the next election, the media will be like ITS BECAUSE THEY WERE TOO CONSERVATIVE AND RACIST and everyone (including the republicans themselves) will believe it

So do you think theyre gonna be destroyed? They werent last time.

I think we just have to face the facts that neocon ideas are very very popular
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https://twitter.com/NYMag/status/976636374240694277

although damn, if he can spin this into some regulatory capture, it might work out for them after all

or at least, will work out for longer
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Jakyl25 posted...

So do you think theyre gonna be destroyed? They werent last time.

I think we just have to face the facts that neocon ideas are very very popular

Gun control and massive spending hikes aren't really "neocon" ideas - they're outright Democrat ideas. Republicans always lose when they try and act like Democrats. Trump won because he said "Iraq was a lie, the deep state sucks, Obamacare is terrible, build the wall"
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They're already being destroyed

2 sides is great for playing ping pong
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You sure about massive spending hikes? I was under the impression W spent A LOT

Then Obama spent even more
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SmartMuffin posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

So do you think theyre gonna be destroyed? They werent last time.

I think we just have to face the facts that neocon ideas are very very popular

Gun control and massive spending hikes aren't really "neocon" ideas - they're outright Democrat ideas. Republicans always lose when they try and act like Democrats. Trump won because he said "Iraq was a lie, the deep state sucks, Obamacare is terrible, build the wall"

And he barely won running that way.

I don't think Trumpism works outside of for Trump himself. Several other candidates have tried to run Trump-style campaigns and got stomped.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5524031/PICTURED-Felon-wheel-killer-self-driving-Uber-car.html

dafuq

well this just got a whole lot weirder
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