Board 8 > Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1308

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creativename posted...

I dont think Link will get 88% or whatever on Ganon again, for instance (could be wrong).

which is the worst thing about that match

we're about to ruin the mystique of the one great thing Link ever did
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Inglebird posted...

It's 2018 and Luigi has done a LOT more since then. Tifa hasn't done shit all. She should not win this

Excuse the fuck out of me you misogynist piece of trash, but Tifa has been in classics like Final Fantasy VII: Dirge of Cerberus and Dissidia since then.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

Inglebird posted...

UltimaterializerX posted...

Inglebird posted...

Does not connect to the contest at hand bub. This is a video game Character contest where the most memorable and best characters should win. I'm all for Lugi losing to like, Samus Aran but Tifa is a one off dead hacked bimbo from an overrated game. Luigi is still thriving with many games and his own series. So fuck Tifa.

The literal contest rules say it's a popularity contest and rallies are allowed. Cry more.

Sorry that your boy Kirby lost to Bowser hahahaa.

So you literally cannot read. Noted.

You are literally still crying about Kirby I bet. Noted.

@ExThaNemesis is about to have a heart attack

Inglebird posted...

KamikazePotato posted...

Inglebird posted...

KamikazePotato posted...

What woman with DD breasts hurt you?

Read my first comment unless you're dyslexic.

Hate to break it you buddy, but



Sorry to inform you that the other characters you think are deserving of beating Tifa are also 'hacked bimbos'.

They are actually in thriving game series currently. They got relevancy to back themselves up. Tifa is dead in the water

Ehhhh, when was the last Metroid game? I'd be realy hesitant to call it 'thriving' when the last entry was absolute trash (Other M)
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So what you're saying is that the only characters deserving of doing well are those that are currently in high profile, popular games? Do you have no opinions of your own, or do you always let the popular consensus decide what's worthwhile?
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Tifa was awesome in Advent Children and Kingdom Hearts II.
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ExThaNemesis posted...

classics like Final Fantasy VII: Dirge of Cerberus

Let's not get hasty there man.
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BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

when was the last Metroid game?

last year on the 3DS
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ExThaNemesis posted...

Inglebird posted...

It's 2018 and Luigi has done a LOT more since then. Tifa hasn't done shit all. She should not win this

Excuse the fuck out of me you misogynist piece of trash, but Tifa has been in classics like Final Fantasy VII: Dirge of Cerberus and Dissidia since then.

classics

Dirge of Cerberus

lol extha
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ExThaNemesis posted...

Inglebird posted...

It's 2018 and Luigi has done a LOT more since then. Tifa hasn't done shit all. She should not win this

Excuse the fuck out of me you misogynist piece of trash, but Tifa has been in classics like Final Fantasy VII: Dirge of Cerberus and Dissidia since then.

Not as a starting role and both are minor spinoffs.

I like lots of female characters, but not ones like Tifa winning through porn rallies and not based on merit. She would have lost back at Mewtwo without them. Your girl is overrated, accept it.

KamikazePotato posted...

Let's not get hasty there man.

Ssh let me troll this guy
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BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

ExThaNemesis posted...

Inglebird posted...

It's 2018 and Luigi has done a LOT more since then. Tifa hasn't done shit all. She should not win this

Excuse the fuck out of me you misogynist piece of trash, but Tifa has been in classics like Final Fantasy VII: Dirge of Cerberus and Dissidia since then.

classics

Dirge of Cerberus

lol extha

Ikr??

I'm pretty sure ExTha was being facetious there guys
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Inglebird posted...

I like lots of female characters, but not ones like Tifa winning through porn rallies and not based on merit. She would have lost back at Mewtwo without them. Your girl is overrated, accept it.

She fuckin' crushed Mewtwo bro

SPEAKING OF the only interesting thing about Mewtwo is the fuckin Pokemon movie and that came out in the goddamn 90's
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Inglebird posted...

ExThaNemesis posted...

Inglebird posted...

It's 2018 and Luigi has done a LOT more since then. Tifa hasn't done shit all. She should not win this

Excuse the fuck out of me you misogynist piece of trash, but Tifa has been in classics like Final Fantasy VII: Dirge of Cerberus and Dissidia since then.

Not as a starting role and both are minor spinoffs.

I like lots of female characters, but not ones like Tifa winning through porn rallies and not based on merit. She would have lost back at Mewtwo without them. Your girl is overrated, accept it.

Uh Tifa destroyed Mewtwo without any rally support

Mewtwo just isnt that great
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Inglebird posted...

like lots of female characters, but not ones like Tifa winning through porn rallies and not based on merit.

Spoilers: MMX rallied too

She would have lost back at Mewtwo without them.

What
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LeonhartFour posted...

I'm pretty sure ExTha was being facetious there guys

It's hard to tell, since I don't think he knows what that word means.

Here, let's put it in to terms that his maturity level can understand.

ExTha, was that a 'work', or a 'shoot'?
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Inglebird posted...

FinaIFantasy posted...

If it helps at all....

She absolutely beats him one on one in 2002 with out cheating (yes, I know she cheated too in the Sonic match, but not Mario levels).

No fucking question.

In 2002 Mario was #8. End of story.

And no amount of RSFF, or Nintendo fans get in line was going to make up that difference they had. Now blatant cheating and CJ failing.... yeah sure. But actual strength, not even close.

Mario trounces her every other year from 03 onwards however.

Oh yeah, 2002 is when Luigi was still a shadow and not developed. Ff7 was still fresh. Fine.

It's 2018 and Luigi has done a LOT more since then. Tifa hasn't done shit all. She should not win this

Uh....
This was about Mario Samus..

LeonhartFour posted...

creativename posted...

I dont think Link will get 88% or whatever on Ganon again, for instance (could be wrong).

which is the worst thing about that match

we're about to ruin the mystique of the one great thing Link ever did

Hey now. The Draven match was the GOAT contest performance.

Still bitter about that @&$#%!! downtime.

Also not to derail this high-class argument, but Tifa just erased all of Luigi's progress in like 3 updates. This is also the hour where she started to grain traction against MMX.

I'm legitimately fascinated at how closely the trends of these matches are lining up, down to individual hours and sometimes individual updates.
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didn't count if Link didn't win
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KamikazePotato posted...

Also not to derail this high-class argument, but Tifa just erased all of Luigi's progress in like 3 updates. This is also the hour where she started to grain traction against MMX.

I'm legitimately fascinated at how closely the trends of these matches are lining up, down to individual hours and sometimes individual updates.

That will change soon. Tifa won't take off nearly as much overnight. Will be a more steady build to a bigger lead than she had over X. Luigi should stall with the day vote, but I expect Tifa to win pretty much every hour of this match.

Note: The trends don't account for rally bullshit, so if some strange Luigi hentai community exists out there, who the fuck knows
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ExThaNemesis posted...

Inglebird posted...

I like lots of female characters, but not ones like Tifa winning through porn rallies and not based on merit. She would have lost back at Mewtwo without them. Your girl is overrated, accept it.

She fuckin' crushed Mewtwo bro

SPEAKING OF the only interesting thing about Mewtwo is the fuckin Pokemon movie and that came out in the goddamn 90's

Bro, I think half this site wakes up in the morning and is shocked to find out it isnt still the 90s.

BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

LeonhartFour posted...

I'm pretty sure ExTha was being facetious there guys

It's hard to tell, since I don't think he knows what that word means.

Here, let's put it in to terms that his maturity level can understand.

ExTha, was that a 'work', or a 'shoot'?

OK I gotta say that work/shoot thing is gold!

Huh, Tifa's actually winning in Canada right now while losing in the U.S. Weird, because Canada is usually even more hardcore Nintendo than the U.S. is!
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BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

ExTha, was that a 'work', or a 'shoot'?

Dumbass.

A shoot can be a work.
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Alright let's talk about things @creativename I'm going to break down everything I've said, and everything I believe you've said. I'm going to try to avoid psychoanalyzing and you try to avoid using the consensus crutch.

The basic premise here is that Samus likely boosted in 2005, just like the rest of Nintendo, which means the "Samus only lost by a lot because Mario boosted" is a lot harder to sell.

Argument 1: There's no reason whatsoever you should believe it was Mario exclusively as there's no reason to trace that shift to something Mario specific. Compare Kirby, Donkey Kong, Zelda (to 03), Ganondorf (to 03), Link himself in the ToC, all have seemingly boosted. Mario's crew got a slightly bigger boost but that's mostly because Mario himself is the flagship of Nintendo.

Counterargument 1: Samus has been consistent before 05 and since 05.

Her percentage in 06 vs Solid Snake, given Solid Snake's percentage vs guys like Mega Man and Sonic, does not imply this is the case. She has only been consistent if you take the following assumptions.

The first is that Mega Man/Link SFF doesn't exist. Between his match in 04, unadjusted, making Mega Man look like a clown, and his matches in 07 with Samus and Link involved making him look like a clown, it's pretty safe to say we've got a lot of evidence for Mega Man/Nintendo SFF/LFF existing. This seems like a poor assumption to make-- it also makes her number vs Cloud in 07 not to be taken at face value as she has reason to be drug down by Mega Man and Link in those matches.

The second is that Sonic 04 = Sonic 06. This also seems silly as Sonic has always seemed a few steps behind Mario and Crono, yet he beats Crono in 06 and does better against Snake than Mega Man does, which again, is well above his projections from earlier years.

Counterargument 1b: Bowser and Ganondorf regress a bit in 06.

While this is true, people have speculated, and frankly, it seems to make sense to me, that they got a temporary boost from the villains contest of 05, but what's important is 06 Bowser and Dorf still look stronger than 03/04 Bowser and Dorf, meaning there was likely a boost for them there.

Argument 2: Measuring Frog through Samus 05, he drops way more than he should even considering things like sprites and Solid ****, particularly because Master Chief remains almost completely consistent between 04 and 05.

Counterargument 2: Frog should have dropped as he had a miracle run in 04. Also Chief had reason to be stronger in 05.

I don't doubt he dropped, but 2004 Frog and 2005 Chief both 60-40 2005 Frog. It's interesting that they were fairly close to consistent. In fact I would say the meat of your inconsistency would be found in adjusting Frog up to a bit below where 2005 Chief is (let's say halfway between 05 Chief and Frog's current position as a compromise) and running with whereever that puts Samus as her 2k5 value. Let's also keep in mind that, historically, Halo hype has been about as potent as Halo releases. Round 1 2007 Chief (pre Halo 3) was stronger than Round 1 2008 Chief (one year out from Halo 3) so it's plausible that Chief about 1 year out from Halo 2 isn't necessarily much different as far as strength goes than Chief during hype for Halo 2. Bungie was very good at their hype for a time!

I... think that's about it. I don't believe you've adequately dismissed these arguments with anything beyond handwaves and claiming "no one ever argued these things before." Definitely not enough to put it in the area that I'm doing "gymnastics" I'm just using the numbers that are there.
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Also BT for someone so obviously superior to it, you sure do know a lot of Wrestling lingo!!
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This is legitimately my favorite stats topic of the contest so far. What an absolute disaster.
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whats happening
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Is that a work KP or are you shooting RN?
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Sephiroth is gonna pass 60% easily at this rate BTW.

Guess who picked him to lose to Ryu and is ALSO gonna pick him to beat Mario in his second chance bracket?

THIS GUY
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Lopen posted...

but what's important is 06 Bowser and Dorf still look stronger than 03/04 Bowser and Dorf, meaning there was likely a boost for them there.

Oh, no doubt. Ganondorf was equal to Tidus and Magus in 2003, after all. I do still think Bowser and Ganondorf were a little overinflated in 2005 (their prediction percentages were absurd that year, meaning they probably benefited from bracket voting way more than they normally do), but yeah, even after that, still stronger than they were pre-Nintendo Boost.
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ExThaNemesis posted...

Also BT for someone so obviously superior to it, you sure do know a lot of Wrestling lingo!!

Unfortunately, being around the various manchildren on Board 8 for 14 years, I have been exposed to some of the pro-wrasslin lingo
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KamikazePotato posted...

This is legitimately my favorite stats topic of the contest so far. What an absolute disaster.

Better than the one in the midst of the hentai rallies?
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ExThaNemesis posted...

Is that a work KP or are you shooting RN?

I don't know the difference!

LeonhartFour posted...

KamikazePotato posted...

This is legitimately my favorite stats topic of the contest so far. What an absolute disaster.

Better than the one in the midst of the hentai rallies?

I stand corrected.
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BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

Unfortunately, being around the various manchildren on Board 8 for 14 years, I have been exposed to some of the pro-wrasslin lingo

I call bullshit. You don't learn what a work or a shoot is without being involved enough to pick which side of the Montreal Screwjob you stand on.

Face it, you're one of us BT.
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(HBK all the way, btw)
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Inglebird posted...

idk who Luigi loses to but it won't be to this bitch.

I am literally tearing up I'm loling so hard
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ExThaNemesis posted...

Sephiroth is gonna pass 60% easily at this rate BTW.

Guess who picked him to lose to Ryu and is ALSO gonna pick him to beat Mario in his second chance bracket?

THIS GUY

I'm vaguely skeptical of this Sephiroth result. It makes so many characters look so bad. Ryu consistently overperformed until this! Sephiroth would still be beating him down but 60%+ is, yikes.
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Bret Hart forever
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KamikazePotato posted...

I'm vaguely skeptical of this Sephiroth result. It makes so many characters look so bad. Ryu consistently overperformed until this! Sephiroth would still be beating him down but 60%+ is, yikes.

Ehhhhhh, it's more than likely that just nobody in Ryu's half of the bracket is any good to begin with.
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Sephiroth SFFing Ryu

Ryu is a hard man with a strong body
Sephiroth is a beautiful man with a long stiff sword
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Maybe we should rally r/cuckold they seem like the kind of people that would vote for Luigi
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They're not, but we're approaching Ryu~Amaterasu levels and I don't pick him to struggle in that match in a million years.

EDIT: Actually Lloyd is decent by fodder standards and he's looking extremely bad right now.
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