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Doopliss_Power
12/09/18 9:36:11 AM
#251:


Yeah, Smash has most of my attention right now, but is there anyone other than Pen, geno, and Sultan that's not okay with lynching Pen today?
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Terra-enforcer
12/09/18 10:02:00 AM
#252:


@Pirate_Harris posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
Pirate_Harris posted...
Pend is obvious scum and it would be a waste of a scan if I did it on him

What was your reason for not voting him yesterday then??? I don't see obvious scum and go for the claimed scanning role instead.

Because I bought his doc claim which by the way you didn't counter at all as ben was claiming you did...

This makes no sense wtf? That's literally the point I was making. Is he "obvious scum" or is he "doc"? You can't play both cards and act like you knew the entire time when your vote was on the claimed scanner. If you bought his claim then you should have scanned him or me to confirm.

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TheSultanOfSlam
12/09/18 10:04:26 AM
#253:


Doopliss_Power posted...
Yeah, Smash has most of my attention right now, but is there anyone other than Pen, geno, and Sultan that's not okay with lynching Pen today?


My vote is on pen people made a huge stink about it
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Terra-enforcer
12/09/18 10:06:04 AM
#254:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
I don't this is the case, but major props to the scum team if they seriously decided against nk'ing one night so I'd falsely assume I protected the claimed cop and subsequently waste all my shots protecting a fakeclaimed cop. Harris's picks for scans are almost too coincidentally bad.


This is nearly exactly how I feel about Shonen. Unfortunately it was a trap, but alas.

And just to clarify, Terra, you are titled pi spells, not you are actually a doctor yes?

Because that's still a ****ing LOT of protection. Like a lot. And we haven't even seen evidence of a scum power outside of the jack.

I am doctor. The "doctor" is in parenthesis after the title I claimed before (PSI Shield).
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Terra-enforcer
12/09/18 10:07:32 AM
#255:


Pendragon71037 posted...
Lolo, Sultan, Terra, and Geno.

Huh, so Lolo and/or Sultan are most likely scum. Thanks for sharing so we get something out of this lynch since I'm probably dead tonight.
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IfGodCouldDie
12/09/18 10:13:18 AM
#256:


hombad46 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Is anything archived?


Yes, but the name of the site where things are LOGged cant be said on gameFAQS.COM

Yea, I know about that site, was hoping more for a legit archiving by one of the archivists.
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IfGodCouldDie
12/09/18 10:15:41 AM
#257:


How many players are alive right now?
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IfGodCouldDie
12/09/18 10:24:08 AM
#258:


Can I get everyone's reads with reasonings.
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TheSultanOfSlam
12/09/18 10:56:42 AM
#259:


1. Hombad (Corrik)- leaning town (corrik doing corrik shit had me convinced he was scum but hom came in and has done an amazing job giving that spot town points so I feel like hom is probably town
2. Doopliss_Power- doop has been very interesting to me so I'm not sure on doop either
3. geno4smash- only thing people actually liked about geno was his claim but the claim was all kinds of fucked up beacuse his role is Ridley newcomer veteran just sounds soo odd and he was originally drunk so couldn't remember his role until night 2. I honestly though he could be town but since apparently people thinking 2 people cant be Miller then if that's the case he is scum beacuse I know what my PM said
4. Hbthebattle- battle has been back and forth for me.
5. Lolo_Guru - scum nothing lolo has done this game has looked remotely town.
6. Pendragon71037- probably the biggest scum read his claim was terrible hasnt really done anything to convince us that he actually us the doctor. His play has been every lacking he is like 95% scum
7. Forecful_Dragon- Fd has been really quite this game no typical FD rants I find this kind of concerning BUT IF what Pirate said is true he is in fact town
8. Pirate_Harris (Shad)- pirate has made some really questionable plays as "Cop" I believe him but maybe just inexsperice and bad game play could sum up all of the negative twords pirate
9. Terra-enforcer- terra has made some decent points and is the more believable town protection
10. TheSultanOfSlam- people liked my play until I apparently didnt 100% understand what my role did and claimed late beacuse I didnt want our cop to waste a scan on me beacuse I'm Miller I sort of had the concept right but I though if scum where to scan me or something that it come back inconclusive so I combined 2 rules in my head and no I look bad and people are going to try and mislynch me beacuse of it.
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IfGodCouldDie
12/09/18 11:58:17 AM
#260:


@TheSultanOfSlam can you recap your original and 2nd claims for me?
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TheSultanOfSlam
12/09/18 12:04:15 PM
#261:


So my claim basically was trying to help pirate decide who to scan so I was like you're between these people you can narrow it down one beacuse I am Miller and it come back inconclusive. And I thought nothing of Geno already claiming Miller beacuse I thought it's very possible to have 2 millers I've been on games where they have 2 of the same role before

I am Pokeman trainer Veteran Miller
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Doopliss_Power
12/09/18 1:13:58 PM
#262:


Scum
Pen - Very scummy play at the beginning of the game, making posts with a lot of words and not much to say. We definitely don't have two Doctors, and I don't think Terra 1-for-1s with this player.
geno - If I have to choose between geno and Sultan, I guess I'll say that geno's claim looks worse to me than Sultan's play, but it's pretty close between the two.
Lolo - prolly three scum left yeah that seems right

Town
IGCD & FD - Uncountered Cop claim and Townscan from an uncountered Cop claim.
HB & Hombad - Their play screams Town to me, HB approaches everything from the perspective of Town trying to find their way, and Hombad's just doing so much in the way of thinking that he just wouldn't have a reason to do if he were scum.
Terra - I mean someone has to have saved Harris unless he's scum and playing us all by intentionally missing a night kill, and both Terra and Pen are scum that claimed Doctor to try and confirm whoever doesn't get lynched, but if that's true, then they deserve the win tbqh
Sultan - His play has seemed pretty bad to me, his aggressiveness and insistence on the same points over and over reminds me of scum me, but there have been times where he fails to understand things in such a way that I think he has to be Town. My weakest Town read, but I still think he's Town over geno
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hombad46
12/09/18 2:04:57 PM
#263:


1. Hombad (Corrik): me, Im Town
2. Doopliss_Power: scanned town, not likely Godfather IMO
3. geno4smash: weird. Had no reason to claim Ridley as scum...
4. Hbthebattle: one of the most Town read people Ive seen, and Ive seen no reason to disagree
5. Lolo_Guru: has Been scumread by both Chris and Han, which is a pretty big red flag yeah
6. Pendragon71037: looks pretty scummy, but that couldve just been bad Doctor Play?
7. Forecful_Dragon: scanned town, more likely godfather than Doop IMO, but Im not actually accusing him of that unless therere no more options
8. Pirate_Harris (Shad): no cop counterclaim after 3 days is pretty convincing that youre town
9. Terra-enforcer: counterclaimed doc today. I guess its more believable, but why wasnt he killed last night after hinting it so strongly?
10. TheSultanOfSlam: seems pretty suspicious, suddenly deciding to claim Miller so late into the previous day
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Forceful_Dragon
12/09/18 2:08:56 PM
#264:


It's a very slow day, but I think we'll be okay.

We have Pendragon today and we have time before the next day to figure out where to go next. I firmly believe that enough have been said that the answer to remaining scum can be found in the logs.

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With that said, I am going to the Metallica concert tonight so I'm not sure how much more I'll be around today. But expect some tangible content from me at the dawn of day 6. Unless I'm killed, but I think Terra will have the honors tonigh.lt. RIP

So Terra id like as much from you as possible today since you (likely) won't be around to say it tomorrow.

We probably can't mislynch anymore, but I still feel this is a more than solvable situation and it's our game to lose.
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Pendragon71037
12/09/18 4:24:27 PM
#265:


>we probably can't mislynch anymore
>we're lynching Pen today

Pick one.

Also, Sultan, what exactly makes you think I'm Scum? Lots of people have been throwing it around, but I don't think anyone's given any real reason yet.
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Forceful_Dragon
12/09/18 4:40:48 PM
#266:


Pen you have not been fighting like someone who actually believes that their Lynch will result in the End Of The Game.

If I were the lynch leader today you can bet i would be fighting tooth and nail.
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Doopliss_Power
12/09/18 4:46:37 PM
#267:


Pendragon71037 posted...
>we probably can't mislynch anymore
>we're lynching Pen today

Pick one.

guys I wanted to lynch him before but he makes a good point here /s
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Pendragon71037
12/09/18 5:28:10 PM
#268:


Doopliss_Power posted...
Pendragon71037 posted...
>we probably can't mislynch anymore
>we're lynching Pen today

Pick one.

guys I wanted to lynch him before but he makes a good point here /s

Dude, you were like, the one person who actually believed me. Why do you suddenly think I'm lying?

Forceful_Dragon posted...
Pen you have not been fighting like someone who actually believes that their Lynch will result in the End Of The Game.

If I were the lynch leader today you can bet i would be fighting tooth and nail.

I'm...sorry I'm not living up to your standards of mafia play?
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Terra-enforcer
12/09/18 5:42:47 PM
#269:


Okay I'm not going to be able to be around much again, so I want to make sure my vote is in so some nonsense doesn't happen like yesterday (which is a lot due to my own fault for not being here to post but can't do much about that now).

##Vote: Pendragon
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Terra-enforcer
12/09/18 5:46:28 PM
#270:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
So my claim basically was trying to help pirate decide who to scan so I was like you're between these people you can narrow it down one beacuse I am Miller and it come back inconclusive. And I thought nothing of Geno already claiming Miller beacuse I thought it's very possible to have 2 millers I've been on games where they have 2 of the same role before

I am Pokeman trainer Veteran Miller

Two millers though? It's extremely uncommon at best, and I'm finding it harder to believe you over Geno when you didn't seem to bat an eye to his claim.
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Pendragon71037
12/09/18 5:47:39 PM
#271:


Like, seriously. My whole weekend has been busier than I've had in months, my allergies chose now to return in force...forgive me if I'm not posting a lot in an online game.
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Pendragon71037
12/09/18 5:53:46 PM
#272:


Doop, you think I'm scum because I in your words, 'made a lot of posts without much in them'. Well, that's all I had at the time. What did you want me to do, make stuff up? And furthermore, what about Terra? What did he do early on to make you think he was Town?
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Lolo_Guru
12/09/18 6:26:30 PM
#273:


Well, Pen.

I think Ben's biggest concern of yours was why you said you were ignoring suspicion of you. Anything to address there?
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TheSultanOfSlam
12/09/18 6:38:30 PM
#274:


Wait can we get a count! I think pen might have just ben lynched
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Pendragon71037
12/09/18 6:41:41 PM
#275:


Lolo_Guru posted...
Well, Pen.

I think Ben's biggest concern of yours was why you said you were ignoring suspicion of you. Anything to address there?

I should think so. Like I said, I was fine with the suspicion, because until it actually came to voting me (as it has yesterday and today) all it would do would be to convince Scum that they didn't need to NK me to get rid of me. He took that and exagggerated it a fair amount, saying I was "trying to get myself lynched", when, no, that's not at all what I was doing- almost literally the opposite. That's why I claimed after I realized I had messed up the Vanilla fakeclaim too severely for anyone to let it skate by- people were starting to actually vote for me.
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TheSultanOfSlam
12/09/18 6:47:33 PM
#276:


Nvm i counted wrong
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IfGodCouldDie
12/09/18 6:57:29 PM
#277:


Who has claimed what so far?
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IfGodCouldDie
12/09/18 7:03:08 PM
#278:


When did Pendragon claim and when did Terra claim?
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Lolo_Guru
12/09/18 7:09:32 PM
#279:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
When did Pendragon claim and when did Terra claim?

Pendragon claimed doctor halfway through day 4.
Terra did not claim yesterday, and is claiming doctor today.
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Forceful_Dragon
12/09/18 7:11:45 PM
#280:


Pendragon claimed doc yesterday. Terra indicated she didn't believe and Ben too that to be a counter claim. Terra then proceeded to not be around that final day of day4 to confirm if it was actually a counter claim or not so we lynched the prosty instead.

Terra has now also claimed doc and has generally seemed better this game than Pen.

I made a list of claims during day 4 somewhere not o don't have time to find it. But you can host Ctrl+f my posts and you should stumble across it.
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IfGodCouldDie
12/09/18 7:14:23 PM
#281:


What topic(s) is day 4?
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Lolo_Guru
12/09/18 7:15:19 PM
#282:


This one and topic 8.
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Pendragon71037
12/09/18 7:16:28 PM
#283:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
Pendragon claimed doc yesterday. Terra indicated she didn't believe and Ben too that to be a counter claim. Terra then proceeded to not be around that final day of day4 to confirm if it was actually a counter claim or not so we lynched the prosty instead.

Terra has now also claimed doc and has generally seemed better this game than Pen.

I made a list of claims during day 4 somewhere not o don't have time to find it. But you can host Ctrl+f my posts and you should stumble across it.

Show your work. Terra's barely even been here all game.
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eaedwards6400
12/09/18 7:46:32 PM
#284:


VOTALS as of 283

[4] Pen - FD, (Terra), (Pirate), Doop, Sultan, Terra
[1] Sultan - hombad
[0] IGCD (formerly Pirate) - (Sultan)

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IfGodCouldDie
12/09/18 7:55:47 PM
#285:


Why did Sultan vote this slot?
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IfGodCouldDie
12/09/18 8:00:59 PM
#286:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Can I get everyone's reads with reasonings.

I'm missing a list from FD, Terra, Pen, Lolo, battle, and Geno(though I am pretty sure is probably asleep by now.)
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Pendragon71037
12/09/18 8:08:08 PM
#287:


Pendragon71037 posted...
(Brought up from a while back because I've been crazy busy compared to my normal Saturday.)

TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Pendragon71037 posted...
FD, if I wasn't the Doc, how do you explain the lack of an NK the night before last?


Who is scum to u

Man, I don't even know anymore. Everyone I thought was scum before has ended up dead and very much not scum.
Let's do some process of elimination here.
I believe Pirate (now IGCD) is actually the Cop, simply because I can't imagine a Scum Pirate keeping the act up this long. By extension, that confirms Doop and FD as Town.
I would be shocked if Battle or Hombad were Scum.
I'm Town, leaving four names out of six- Lolo, Sultan, Terra, and Geno.
Assuming a five-man scum team at start, with red and Scare gone that leaves three, and of those four names, I think I find the Town-est to be either Lolo or Geno.

Then again, I kind of have to ##Vote: Terra because, now that he's officially claimed Doc, I know he's actually lying, and not just not buying my claim because he thought I was Scum beforehand.

Posted this just after you replaced in, IGCD.
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Pendragon71037
12/09/18 8:09:09 PM
#288:


Speaking of, you forgot my vote, host. I removed the bold from the first time, but just in case, here it is again.

##Vote: Terra
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Pendragon71037
12/09/18 8:16:07 PM
#289:


Figures that now that I've finally got time to post y'all disappear...
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TheSultanOfSlam
12/09/18 8:26:51 PM
#290:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Why did Sultan vote this slot?


Very confused on the kill of ben and why is the cop not dead?
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Pendragon71037
12/09/18 8:41:48 PM
#291:


You never answered my question of why you think I mean scum.
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Pendragon71037
12/09/18 8:41:59 PM
#292:


*i'm
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IfGodCouldDie
12/09/18 8:43:35 PM
#293:


Pendragon71037 posted...
Figures that now that I've finally got time to post y'all disappear...

Sorry was doing a family FaceTime with my Aunt, her husband and my wife and kids.
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IfGodCouldDie
12/09/18 8:44:19 PM
#294:


Pendragon71037 posted...
You never answered my question of why you think I mean scum.

Who is this directed at and what is it about?
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Pendragon71037
12/09/18 8:47:10 PM
#295:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Pendragon71037 posted...
You never answered my question of why you think I mean scum.

Who is this directed at and what is it about?

Sultan. He says he thinks I'm Scum, but he has yet to elaborate. Which is a bit of a problem, as I'm about two hours from being lynched at this point, and I'm a claimed Doctor.
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Pendragon71037
12/09/18 8:48:25 PM
#296:


A claimed Doctor who's been protecting your slot since Night 2, I might add.
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TheSultanOfSlam
12/09/18 8:53:19 PM
#297:


Pendragon71037 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Pendragon71037 posted...
You never answered my question of why you think I mean scum.

Who is this directed at and what is it about?

Sultan. He says he thinks I'm Scum, but he has yet to elaborate. Which is a bit of a problem, as I'm about two hours from being lynched at this point, and I'm a claimed Doctor.


Your claim was really bad this is probably been the best and only real content other then the claim you've actually had
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IfGodCouldDie
12/09/18 8:53:32 PM
#298:


Are at 10 people if we assume 3 scum left we have 2 mislynches. Has there been any extra kills yet?
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IfGodCouldDie
12/09/18 8:54:11 PM
#299:


Pendragon71037 posted...
A claimed Doctor who's been protecting your slot since Night 2, I might add.

Where have Terra's claimed actions gone every night?
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Pendragon71037
12/09/18 9:01:05 PM
#300:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Pendragon71037 posted...
A claimed Doctor who's been protecting your slot since Night 2, I might add.

Where have Terra's claimed actions gone every night?

I don't believe he has claimed previous actions.

There has been one extra kill so far- red13, who was a Scum, was (we think) killed by Chris (Town Vig) on the same night Chris himself was killed (N1). Other than that (and N3, where there were no kills because Scum either skipped for some reason or tried to kill you and I stopped it) there's been one kill every night.
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