Board 8 > Smash Ultimate Mafia Topic 9: Invasion Of The Clones

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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Pendragon71037 posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Pendragon71037 posted...

You never answered my question of why you think I mean scum.

Who is this directed at and what is it about?

Sultan. He says he thinks I'm Scum, but he has yet to elaborate. Which is a bit of a problem, as I'm about two hours from being lynched at this point, and I'm a claimed Doctor.

Your claim was really bad this is probably been the best and only real content other then the claim you've actually had

In what way was it bad? I tried to fakeclaim Vanilla, got called out due to a mistake I really don't think I would have made if I were Scum, and then claimed my actual role.
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VOTALS as of 283

[4] Pen - FD, (Terra), (Pirate), Doop, Sultan, Terra
[1] Sultan - hombad
[1] Terra - Pen
[0] IGCD (formerly Pirate) - (Sultan)
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##Vote: Terra

Unless he comes in here and gives a list of night actions there is no reason to believe his counter claim, unless there has been an extra kill flipped this is easily an attempt to win the game.
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In fact, if my claim is "bad", how bad is Terra's? The dude has hardly been here the whole game, a fact which is often true when he's Scum (and which I noticed and pointed out Day 1). He doesn't immediately counterclaim; doesn't counterclaim at all on the day I claimed, a fact which probably cost Shonen his life. He claimed today only because literally everyone told him to, and he doesn't even say what he did, just posts his role and stuff about "hinting" that he was doctor.
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Who did you protect night 1?
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eaedwards6400 posted...

VOTALS as of 283

[4] Pen - FD, (Terra), (Pirate), Doop, Sultan, Terra
[1] Sultan - hombad
[1] Terra - Pen
[0] IGCD (formerly Pirate) - (Sultan)

Didnt Geno vote Sultan?
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

Who did you protect night 1?

Chris, because, well, he's Chris, and Harris hadn't claimed yet.
He died anyway though, because htaeD (Town RB) used his ability on me.
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Pendragon71037 posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Who did you protect night 1?

Chris, because, well, he's Chris, and Harris hadn't claimed yet.
He died anyway though, because htaeD (Town RB) used his ability on me.

When did you claim to have protected Chris, was it before or after death revealed he roleblocked you?
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Pen you do make some good points.
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##unvote
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

Pendragon71037 posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Who did you protect night 1?

Chris, because, well, he's Chris, and Harris hadn't claimed yet.
He died anyway though, because htaeD (Town RB) used his ability on me.

When did you claim to have protected Chris, was it before or after death revealed he roleblocked you?

After, although...
Okay, let me give you the sequence of events.

Day...2, I think it was, htaeD says I'm Scum because he used his ability on me. Not quite sure of the logic there, because nothing really came of it. Maybe he was bluffing for a reaction. Day 3, he says he used his ability on Scare Night 2. Again, nothing really came of it. He died Night 3. Day 4, I'm forced to claim because, well, most everyone was forced to claim.
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Damn, that could mean he stopped you from submitting the regular kill on night 1, but there has been a night with no kill since then.



I think Terra is the better lynch than you are. There is nothing to make me believe that Terra's counter claim is legit.
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@Terra-enforcer get in here and play the game please, there is like 1 hour left.
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Rereading some stuff I'm not really sure why I buy terra more then Pen I disliked pen a little less then terra before pens claim... wish more people where around. Pen did also warn us about his period of inactive and when he was here has made some decent points. I think I might have just went blinde thinking hmm his vanilla claim seems off but it makes alot of sense.

The saves seem to add up pretty well, terra didnt give.us any. Ben was pushing the terra is doc thing I didnt buy it and I didnt vot lend yesterday so why did I buy it now... I though pen was town yesterday why am I changing my mind today.

Here is beacuse I think my logic today has been off and that I never had a good feeling about terra idk why I changed my mind maybe distracted today or something
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Rereading some stuff I'm not really sure why I buy terra more then Pen I disliked pen a little less then terra before pens claim... wish more people where around. Pen did also warn us about his period of inactive and when he was here has made some decent points. I think I might have just went blinde thinking hmm his vanilla claim seems off but it makes alot of sense.

The saves seem to add up pretty well, terra didnt give.us any. Ben was pushing the terra is doc thing I didnt buy it and I didnt vot lend yesterday so why did I buy it now... I though pen was town yesterday why am I changing my mind today.

Here is beacuse I think my logic today has been off and that I never had a good feeling about terra idk why I changed my mind maybe distracted today or something

Vote Terra.
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God if terra doesn't show up and exsplain some stuff I will
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Let me break it down for you guys right now. If Terra is the extra kill he could have planned to counter the doc or get the doc to try and counter him the whole time. Because if he can counter the doc and get them lynched then they use their extra kill that night knowing there is no doc to save anyone. At the point we are at right now this play would win the game. So unless Death did RB the regular kill and scum decided to no kill for some reason...

Terra refusing to play at such a crucial moment is pretty shitty of him if he is town.
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

God if terra doesn't show up and exsplain some stuff I will

Ok good.
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I think that makes some sense, IGCD.
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VOTALS as of 317

[3] Pen - FD, (Terra), (Pirate), Doop, (Sultan), Terra
[2] Sultan - hombad, Geno
[2] Terra - Pen, IGCD
[0] IGCD (formerly Pirate) - (Sultan)

Day ends in 40 Minutes or 6 votes.
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##Vote: Terra

Just going to throw caution to the winds.
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Lolo from outta nowhere
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Five minute warning before I vote you @Terra-enforcer
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Lolo from outta nowhere

Better than not showing up at all imho
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Lolo_Guru posted...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Lolo from outta nowhere

Better than not showing up at all imho

Yep. The end of the day is pretty important after all. Those are some interesting points that have been brought up about Terra, nice job thinking so quickly when you just swapped in, IGCD. Ill need to consider them a bit myself before I commit to a vote though
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Alright yeah, Im convinced.

##Unvote
##Vote: Terra
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20 mins left in day and no one is here...
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Based on the supposed scum reads from most of the game that vote would be suspect.
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VOTALS as of 327

[4] Terra - Pen, IGCD, hombad, Lolo
[3] Pen - FD, (Terra), (Pirate), Doop, (Sultan), Terra
[2] Sultan - (hombad), Geno
[0] IGCD (formerly Pirate) - (Sultan)

Day ends in 15 Minutes or 6 votes.
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5 mins ##vote: terra

You did this to yourself really way to no show a true doc possibly being misslynches would be here
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UltimaterializerX posted...

Ed has this under control. Off to play some more.......

Castlevania Symphony of the Night. What, were you expecting something else? =p

Yes, I was expecting Hearthstone.
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STOPs
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As the players continued to calm as more and more of their stock ran out. A young boy continued to dodge attacks until finally it all became too much.

Terra-Enforcer has been lynched! He was Ness, VETERAN PSI Shield (Doctor)

It was at that point that the town was unable defend itself for the enemy team had gotten a Smash Ball!

IfGodCouldDie has been killed in the endgame. He was Mario, VETERAN Cape (Cop).
TheSultanOfSlam has been killed in the endgame. He was PokeMon Trainer, VETERAN Miller.
Forceful_Dragon has been killed in the endgame. He was Marth, VETERAN Vanilla.
Doopliss_Power has been killed in the endgame. He was Samus, VETERAN Vanilla.
Lolo_Guru has been killed in the endgame. He was Luigi, VETERAN Vanilla.

GAME!

The winner is the NEWCOMERS:
Hbthebattle he was Pichu, NEWCOMER Quick-Attack (Godfather).
ScareChan he was Incineroar, NEWCOMER Wrestler.
Hombad64 he was King K. Rool, NEWCOMER Bulletproof.
Pendragon he was Inklong, NEWCOMER Untrackable.
Red13n he was Simon Belmont, NEWCOMER Vanilla.
Geno4Smash4 he was Ridley, NEWCOMEE Vanilla.


Eliminated:
[LD1] Jedimess - Pikachu, VETERAN Vanilla
[NK1] DoomTheGyarados - Captain Falcon, VETERAN Falcon Punch (1-Shot Vigilante)
[NK1] red13n - Simon Belmont, NEWCOMER Vanilla
[LD2] Hanofthenekos - Mega Man, VETERAN Leaf Shield (Bodyguard)
[NK2] htaeD - Fox McCloud - VETERAN Reflector (Roleblocker)
[LD3] ScareChan - Incineroar - NEWCOMER Wrestler (Jack of All Trades)
[LD4] Shonen_Bat - Jigglypuff - VETERAN Sleep (Prosty)
[NK4] benjamin3740 - Duck Hunt - VETERAN Vanilla

Day 1 Votals:
Jedimess [5] - Chris, jombad46, (Ben), (Scare), Pendadragon, (Pirate), Scare, (Pirate), (HB), Ben
Scare [4] - (Chris), (Ben), (LoLo), Death, (Han), (FD), Doop, Terra, Han
Chris [3] - (Scare), (Sultan), (Han), Shonen, Lolo, Pirate
red13n [1] - (FD), (Chris), (Ben), (Shonen), (Han), (Lolo), (Sultan), (HB), FD, (Pirate)
Han [1] - (HB), Geno
Terra [1] - Sultan
Lolo [0] - (Han)
death [0] - (Ben), (Scare), (Pirate), (Ben)
FD [0] - (Scare)
geno [0] - (hombad46), (HB)
hombad46 [0] - (Sultan)

Day 2 Votals:
[8] Han - Scare, (Ben), Pendragon, (Sultan), (HB), FD, lolo, Death, (Shoenin), HB, (Pirate), Hombad, Pirate
[6] Scare - Terra, (Death), (Doop), Geno, (Doop), Han, (Pirate), Ben, (Pirate), Doop, Shoenin
[1] lolo - (hombad), Sultan
[0] Death - (Scare), (Ben), (Doop)
[0] Doop - (Han)
[0] Hombad - (Doop)
[0] Pendragon - (Han)
[0] Sultan - (lolo)

Day 3 Votals
[5] Scarechan - HB, (Doop), Shonen, FD, Pirate, (hombad), hombad

Day 4 Votals
[6] Shonen - hombad, (Doop), (Pirate), (Sultan), Hbattle, Pend, (FD), FD, Pirate, Sultan
[5] Pendragon - (ben), (Doop), (Lolo), Shonen, geno, Terra, Lolo, Ben
[1] Geno - Doop, (Pirate), (Sultan), (Ben)
[0] FD - (Lolo)
[0] Ben - (LoLo)
[0] Terra - (Sultan)

Day 5 Votal
[5] Terra - Pen, IGCD, hombad, Lolo, Sultan
[3] Pen - FD, (Terra), (Pirate), Doop, (Sultan), Terra
[2] Sultan - (hombad), Geno
[0] IGCD (formerly Pirate) - (Sultan)

I hope you all had fun. I would like to apologize for not having my best hosting effort. It just seemed like the people wanted a game after the other guys game folded. I'll post the other details in a moment.
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Just going to pour myself a whiskey here and sit on down.

Scum, you can leave the topic whenever. I think you played a poor game but I am not going to be the man who degrades scum for doing what it needed to win, so good job on the win. You never have to apologize for winning the game of mafia, despite some critique I may level later on here they are mostly critique of town in responding. You won, good job.

Just going to take a sip of my drink.

I am really angry as someone who just loves mafia. I am trying really hard to just take deep, calming breaths and not to lash out as this was probably physically painful for me to watch.

First off, FD and Sultan... please never invoke my name in a game of mafia again. If you do, and I see it, I will interrupt the game and say you do not speak to me. There is no player or host that is going to stop me from saying that. You do not get to invoke the name of Chris in your play ever again. I do not care more about this community at moment than I do my personal pride, you will not sully my good name.

Secondly, this community is banning strongman or I am not playing anymore. It is a thoughtless, trash role that is made more thoughtless and more trash because it may as well be called a Kill Chris button. Mafia should be a game of skill. Not of thoughtless obvious play. I would love to hear the counter argument that mafia NEEDS an assured night kill like that given that it is almost exclusively used on me.

Thirdly props to Han for understanding that when scum trade they do not trade, they bring you closer to death. No one else in this game seemed to understand that scum trading themselves 1 for 1 is often EXTREMELY valuable to themselves. Because outside of Vigs (so I made up for my mislynch day 1 by burying Red, and not that anyone cared to do wagon analysis but my going to jedimess baited two scum to switch off of scum Scare but literally no one just did simple vote analysis the entire game, instead trying to do some weird, fancy version instead of seeing that HB/Pen/Homwere on the wrong contested lynch every time basically but I guess no one wanted to care about that) but yeah. Trade are often in scum's favor. Why people do not think so, I don't know.

Fourthly, one cop and one prostitute is pretty underpowered for two scanning in 18. Why anyone thought there was too much scanning is baffling to me. You were just wrong. I would have expected there to be more scanning if not for the fact that town had a RB/Doctor/BG which is extensive protection. But to constantly question both cop and prosty on balance reasons is just not knowing how to balance a game. At all. You should never speak on balance of a game again based off of that.

Fifthly, I like how when it became obvious there was a doctor and an RB and a BG no one turned to the horrible lightning rod claim and be like Um, there's no way. Not one person did this. I am not going to degrade HB, you play to your audience after all, but shame on town.

Sixthly, which my word processor tells me is not a word, if you don't have time to play don't sign up. Town lost this game because Terra could not play properly. I am not saying Terra made bad decisions, but it is unacceptable for so much time to pass and for a player to be unavailable. It's just not. If Terra counters that same day Pen dies, flips Untrackable, and Bat is confirmed because Untrackable is the counter to his role and the game plays out much differently. Instead a slot goes silent and town makes a poor decision because of it.

I am just so done for now. No one did any scum hunting (aside from Han), you just saw red's corpse drop and finished off the mangled corpse of Scare a day late after murdering someone over him.

I have had the flu all week and I feel sicker to my stomach now than I did during the height of it.
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https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/vulture/2017/06/26/villains/26-evil-captain-america.w700.h700.2x.jpg
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Sorry for playing so poorly.

And I mean it, I was just awful.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Fifthly, I like how when it became obvious there was a doctor and an RB and a BG no one turned to the horrible lightning rod claim and be like Um, there's no way. Not one person did this. I am not going to degrade HB, you play to your audience after all, but shame on town.

He was supposed to just claim vanilla. I thought lightning rod was 100% suicide. The actions he claimed didnt even make logical sense but I'm not sure anybody ever brought any of it up.
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oh and.

https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/vulture/2017/06/26/villains/26-evil-captain-america.w700.h700.2x.jpg
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I will probably not be playing mafia again for another year.
See you in 2020!
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How in the goddamn did you guys pull off that in the last 2 hours I wasnt there
Jesus Christ I thought Pen was screwed

Wtf
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Hbthebattle posted...

How in the goddamn did you guys pull off that in the last 2 hours I wasnt there
Jesus Christ I thought Pen was screwed

Wtf

IGCD saved us
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Hbthebattle posted...

How in the goddamn did you guys pull off that in the last 2 hours I wasnt there
Jesus Christ I thought Pen was screwed

Wtf

They didn't, town just played it very poorly. Again, no offense guys, you play to win and you won but like... town killed their power for the most part not scum.

The EoD switch to Bat and Terra were unforced errors really.

Also you had a very good day 1, gj HB. Was not nearly as impressed with you and hom when you kept doing mental gynmnastics to vote town but no one alive noticed so
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Mario, VETERAN Cape (Cop) - Your cape will turn the opponent around and show their alignment.
Ness, VETERAN PSI Shield (Doctor) - Your shield Blocks a shot from an opponent.
Captain Falcon,VETERAN Falcon Punch (1-Shot Vigilante) - Your Falcon Punch is more like the N64 and completely broken and will knock someone off the screen.
Jigglypuff, VETERAN Sleep (Prostitute) - You put your enemy to sleep and will be told if your target got up last night.
Mega Man, VETERAN Leaf Shield (Bodyguard) - It is a shield you can send to someone else but leave yourself open. Well not really but that's what it is going to do in mafia. You'll take a shot for someone else and then die.
Fox, VETERAN Reflector (Roleblocker) - Step in front of an opponent and block their attack.
Pokemon Trainer - VETERAN Miller - One fourth of you is returning to Smash and therefore a Veteran. Other than that you have no powers.
Marth, VETERAN Vanilla - Sorry. You have no powers.
Samus, VETERAN Vanilla - Surprisingly. You have no powers.
Luigi, VETERAN Vanilla - You don't have any powers but are you really surprised about that?
Pikachu, VETERAN Vanilla - LETS GO! Wait Shockingly, you have no powers.
Duck Hunt, VETERAN Vanilla - Ruff. You don't have any powers.

You win when all threats to town are eliminated.

Pichu, NEWCOMER Quick-Attack (Godfather) - You're so quick that they think they scanned you VETERAN. As far as a split goes, because you weren't in Smash 4 you're technically a NEWCOMER.
Incineroar, NEWCOMER Darkest Lariat/Revenge/Run Ropes (1 Replacement Undefendable Shot/1 Roleblock/1 Commute) - A man of many amazing looking moves gives you man different talents. Your Darkest Lariat will kill anyone, it is not dependable. However, it only replaces the normal nightly kill. Revenge allows you to block one action.
King K. Rool - NEWCOMER Stomach (Bulletproof) - Your belly is so hard that if shot it in the attack will bounce off.
Inkling - NEWCOMER Squid (Untrackable) - You dive into your paint at night and are therefore not trackable.
Simon Belmont, NEWCOMER Vanilla - Cool, awesome third party get for Smash. No powers.
Ridley, NEWCOMER Vanilla - After long last you are finally in Smash. However, too much hype and no powers.

You win when your faction gains/ties a majority. You Mafia board is here: http://newsincesmash4.proboards.com/

Night 1

Pirate scans Chris. He is innocent
Chris Falcon Punches Red. Works
Terra saves Death. Works
Scare Darkest Lariats Chris. Works
Death blocks pendadragon. Works.
Shoenon_Bat puts FD to Sleep. FD does not awaken. Works.

Night 2
Scare Block Pirate Harris. Blocked.
Pendragon kills Death. Confirmed.
Pirate investigated Doop. Doop is Innocent.
Shonen slept with. ScareChan did not get up.
Terra protected Pirate Harris. Confirmed.
Death Block Scarechan. Confirmed.

Night 3
Scan FD. FD is innocent.
Shonen_Bat sleeps with Pirate Harris
Terra saves Pirate Harris
Pendragon kills Pirate Harris. Saved by Doctor.

Night 4
Pen kills Ben
Harris scans Ben. Ben is innocent.
Terra saves Pirate. Okay.
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Also I was todl if Han BGs me it would have stopped the unblockable. What a different game that would have been.
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Hey, I don't want to call anyone out or offend anyone, but why is this game taken as seriously as it is? The stakes are pretty low and games seem to be reasonably frequent.
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Scum board is now open.
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Shonen_Bat posted...

Hey, I don't want to call anyone out or offend anyone, but why is this game taken as seriously as it is? The stakes are pretty low and games seem to be reasonably frequent.

I suppose I'll field this. Because I like doing well in my hobbies. I devote time and energy to this game. If I didn't want to take it seriously I just wouldn't play. I would do something else. Because I value my time tremendously and to see it played really poorly is just upsetting.
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