Current Events > Kevin Hart steps down as Oscar host

(+) Yeah! (+)

He could have been modern about it, apologized, and hosted the Oscars.

But if this shit is that important to him, then he can go fuck himself. Get hip, little man.
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mooreandrew58 posted...

ImmatureContent posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

I'll agree to disagree. I nor my family or friends let celebrities opinions alter our views but I do guess the world is full of weak minded sheep who must follow other people's lead in order to form an opinion.

That is an incredibly ignorant take. You don't just decide everything on your own. Human beings are subconsciously influenced by things around them all the time. This includes the opinions of others. It isn't about actively adopting the opinion of a celebrity. That is not how it works. It is much more subtle. The fact that you aren't aware that you are being influenced doesn't change the fact that it is happening.

Not aware they aware they are influencing me? No I'm pretty damn aware. I disagree with most of my favorite celebs on a lot of things. When I form my opinion on something I actually sit down and think about it. My opinion has been influenced more by random people online who actually take the time to civilly talk about a issue and present evidence or facts to their side.

Aside from that the basis on my opinions stems from how I was raised. My mind has been changed on some things though

Also I go out of my way to avoid paying attention to celebs outside whatever it is they do that I like. Never got the whole following them on Twitter shit

It doesn't matter how aware you are. You have a subconscious like everyone else. Your brain absorbs and processes information in the background far beyond your active ability to think about it. You don't have to agree with a celebrity for them to impact your opinions. Just hearing their opinion becomes new information. It is stored away in your brain and having that knowledge affects you in some way. Celebrities reach a large audience. I agree with you when it comes to thinking for yourself. I highly applaud the idea of independent thinking. But that doesn't mean we aren't all being influenced whether we like it or not.
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ImmatureContent posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

ImmatureContent posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

I'll agree to disagree. I nor my family or friends let celebrities opinions alter our views but I do guess the world is full of weak minded sheep who must follow other people's lead in order to form an opinion.

That is an incredibly ignorant take. You don't just decide everything on your own. Human beings are subconsciously influenced by things around them all the time. This includes the opinions of others. It isn't about actively adopting the opinion of a celebrity. That is not how it works. It is much more subtle. The fact that you aren't aware that you are being influenced doesn't change the fact that it is happening.

Not aware they aware they are influencing me? No I'm pretty damn aware. I disagree with most of my favorite celebs on a lot of things. When I form my opinion on something I actually sit down and think about it. My opinion has been influenced more by random people online who actually take the time to civilly talk about a issue and present evidence or facts to their side.

Aside from that the basis on my opinions stems from how I was raised. My mind has been changed on some things though

Also I go out of my way to avoid paying attention to celebs outside whatever it is they do that I like. Never got the whole following them on Twitter shit

It doesn't matter how aware you are. You have a subconscious like everyone else. Your brain absorbs and processes information in the background far beyond your active ability to think about it. You don't have to agree with a celebrity for them to impact your opinions. Just hearing their opinion becomes new information. It is stored away in your brain and having that knowledge affects you in some way. Celebrities reach a large audience. I agree with you when it comes to thinking for yourself. I highly applaud the idea of independent thinking. But that doesn't mean we aren't all being influenced whether we like it or not.

Well as said if I wasn't clear I go out of my way to disregard anything a celeb says. I mean if they provide evidence/facts other than simply their opinion. Sure they might get some Influence. But rarely if ever do I see that happen (as said I avoid keeping up with them so idk if they do that commonly or not)

Either way my opinion boils down to I just dont like the idea of censoring people over their opinions. If anything I like bigots to be transparent so I know who they are.
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i don't even know why anyone ever posts something on social media under their real name. What may be "fine" today could be totally offensive a few years later and will ruin whatever it is you're trying to do
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mooreandrew58 posted...

Coastal_elite posted...

AmericaTheBrave posted...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/responding-homophobic-tweets-kevin-hart-draws-more-ire-013502169.html

Congrats Twitter mob, you got another one.

yeah his jokes and comments were inappropriate. But the guy isn't a Mike Pence-style homophobe.

The SJW justice mob always gets the not-so-bad people but doesn't do shit about the real bigots.

See it's a whole different ball park when they are in the government. They have real power.

Agreed.

But also, guys like Pence are legit hateful vs LGBT. Even if he weren't in government, there's a difference between Hart's "lulz dun be gay, son!" jokes vs Pence's "I want to give electroshocks to them all and try to electrocute the gay out of them, BTW they're all going to hell".

SSJCAT posted...

ok since apparently most of yall havent seen the tweets people are actually mad about, not that half-assed apology tweet, here you go:
https://mobile.twitter.com/benfraserlee/status/1070413541012893696

Spot on response to all this: "There are countries where people are being killed every day for their sexuality, but let's freak out 'cause Kevin Hart tweeted mean things ten years ago."
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Evol posted...

Coastal_elite posted...

AmericaTheBrave posted...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/responding-homophobic-tweets-kevin-hart-draws-more-ire-013502169.html

Congrats Twitter mob, you got another one.

yeah his jokes and comments were inappropriate. But the guy isn't a Mike Pence-style homophobe.

The SJW justice mob always gets the not-so-bad people but doesn't do shit about the real bigots.

What does that even mean? Are you literally pulling a whataboutPence? He has faced a lot of backlash as well, FYI. And theres not much people on social media can do about an elected politician...they can complain but that doesnt mean shit.

Not "what about Pence". It's more about the twitter SJW justice squad going after not-so-bad guys siply because they're the low hanging fruit. It's like beating the shit out of a 10 year old for throwing an empty soda can to the street (littering) while ignoring the MMA fighter taking a dump in the middle of the same street and leaving the toilet paper he used to wipe right there too

BruceWayneJr posted...

He could have been modern about it, apologized, and hosted the Oscars.

But if this shit is that important to him, then he can go fuck himself. Get hip, little man.

I don't think he could, man.

The Oscars people probably told him to step down but gave him the chance to say he chose to step down so he can save face. Had he hosted the oscars you can bet something would have happened too: maybe booing, and throwing tomatoes at him or something.

He did say he has evolved and no longer holds those views too.

Coastal_elite posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

Coastal_elite posted...

AmericaTheBrave posted...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/responding-homophobic-tweets-kevin-hart-draws-more-ire-013502169.html

Congrats Twitter mob, you got another one.

yeah his jokes and comments were inappropriate. But the guy isn't a Mike Pence-style homophobe.

The SJW justice mob always gets the not-so-bad people but doesn't do shit about the real bigots.

See it's a whole different ball park when they are in the government. They have real power.

Agreed.

But also, guys like Pence are legit hateful vs LGBT. Even if he weren't in government, there's a difference between Hart's "lulz dun be gay, son!" jokes vs Pence's "I want to give electroshocks to them all and try to electrocute the gay out of them, BTW they're all going to hell".

Yeah but he'd be less issue if not in government. As said in another post I like bigots being transparent. As long as it's just words I'll be fine ill just know they ain't anyone I'd want to have any dealings with.

Like chic fil a I don't think they should shut down but I definitely don't give em my money
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Coastal_elite posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

Coastal_elite posted...

AmericaTheBrave posted...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/responding-homophobic-tweets-kevin-hart-draws-more-ire-013502169.html

Congrats Twitter mob, you got another one.

yeah his jokes and comments were inappropriate. But the guy isn't a Mike Pence-style homophobe.

The SJW justice mob always gets the not-so-bad people but doesn't do shit about the real bigots.

See it's a whole different ball park when they are in the government. They have real power.

Agreed.

But also, guys like Pence are legit hateful vs LGBT. Even if he weren't in government, there's a difference between Hart's "lulz dun be gay, son!" jokes vs Pence's "I want to give electroshocks to them all and try to electrocute the gay out of them, BTW they're all going to hell".

"I'd beat my son up if I caught him being gay" is hardly much better.
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mooreandrew58 posted...

Coastal_elite posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

Coastal_elite posted...

AmericaTheBrave posted...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/responding-homophobic-tweets-kevin-hart-draws-more-ire-013502169.html

Congrats Twitter mob, you got another one.

yeah his jokes and comments were inappropriate. But the guy isn't a Mike Pence-style homophobe.

The SJW justice mob always gets the not-so-bad people but doesn't do shit about the real bigots.

See it's a whole different ball park when they are in the government. They have real power.

Agreed.

But also, guys like Pence are legit hateful vs LGBT. Even if he weren't in government, there's a difference between Hart's "lulz dun be gay, son!" jokes vs Pence's "I want to give electroshocks to them all and try to electrocute the gay out of them, BTW they're all going to hell".

Yeah but he'd be less issue if not in government. As said in another post I like bigots being transparent. As long as it's just words I'll be fine ill just know they ain't anyone I'd want to have any dealings with.

Like chic fil a I don't think they should shut down but I definitely don't give em my money

makes sense, yeah

Were his tweets supposed to be jokes or was he actually being straight out homophobic? They failed at being funny if they were jokes, but he has no reason to apologize ever if they were jokes. If he just hated gay people, then it's honestly fair.

nemu posted...

Were his tweets supposed to be jokes or was he actually being straight out homophobic? They failed at being funny if they were jokes, but he has no reason to apologize ever if they were jokes. If he just hated gay people, then it's honestly fair.

One was a joke as he said boom I'm.on fire today. Can't speak for the rest
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The Oscars is just white liberals sucking each other off anyway.
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

I would bet most of the fake outrage isn't even from people who are gay or bisexual. It's from the SJW crowd who wants to feel offended on someone else's behalf.

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goldenBoi45 posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

I would bet most of the fake outrage isn't even from people who are gay or bisexual. It's from the SJW crowd who wants to feel offended on someone else's behalf.

Yeah, imagine feeling offended on behalf of the human race because you expect better from them.
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Conflict posted...

Everyone should just stop using twitter tbh

Yea Honestly
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@BruceWayneJr posted...

He could have been modern about it, apologized, and hosted the Oscars.

But if this shit is that important to him, then he can go fuck himself. Get hip, little man.

He stepped down and then apologized immediately afterwards. He regretted his actions and has grown as a person but he didn't want people to think its okay for nerd online to keep using twitter to bully celebrities into doing what they want. His apology seems more sincere that way because he apologized because he wanted to, not because the job was on the line
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Coastal_elite posted...

Evol posted...

Coastal_elite posted...

AmericaTheBrave posted...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/responding-homophobic-tweets-kevin-hart-draws-more-ire-013502169.html

Congrats Twitter mob, you got another one.

yeah his jokes and comments were inappropriate. But the guy isn't a Mike Pence-style homophobe.

The SJW justice mob always gets the not-so-bad people but doesn't do shit about the real bigots.

What does that even mean? Are you literally pulling a whataboutPence? He has faced a lot of backlash as well, FYI. And theres not much people on social media can do about an elected politician...they can complain but that doesnt mean shit.

Not "what about Pence". It's more about the twitter SJW justice squad going after not-so-bad guys siply because they're the low hanging fruit. It's like beating the shit out of a 10 year old for throwing an empty soda can to the street (littering) while ignoring the MMA fighter taking a dump in the middle of the same street and leaving the toilet paper he used to wipe right there too

You honestly think they havent been going after Pence and other bigot politicians? Look at the midterms, good people can make a fuss about awful shit these politicians have said and they still get elected. Voters (Republicans) dont care about the bigots in their own party and will vote them in regardless of what they have done and said. A lot of people have been talking about all of them.

goldenBoi45 posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

I would bet most of the fake outrage isn't even from people who are gay or bisexual. It's from the SJW crowd who wants to feel offended on someone else's behalf.

Im a gay man who takes issue with what was said. Multiple LGBTQ+ people in this topic and online are offended as I have personally seen. But dont let that stop you from peddling your fake talking points.

Evol posted...

goldenBoi45 posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

I would bet most of the fake outrage isn't even from people who are gay or bisexual. It's from the SJW crowd who wants to feel offended on someone else's behalf.

Im a gay man who takes issue with what was said. Multiple LGBTQ+ people in this topic and online are offended as I have personally seen. But dont let that stop you from peddling your fake talking points.

What he said eight years ago? And has had a change of heart? Seems like fake outrage to me.
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SaithSayer posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

SaithSayer posted...

iPhone_7 posted...

Homophonic s***lord, hopefully this bigot gets less work in Hollywood.

I know what you mean. I need every entertainer to share my morals too. Hilarious? Oh well. Great with a guitar? Can sing your ass off? Doesn't matter! Better think like me or I'm comin' for ya!

I mean, that's a pretty crazy strawman. Obviously no one is saying that enjoyment is entirely based on unrelated views of a person, but most artforms tend to reflect the person creating them. Comedy is especially centered around the personality of the comedian. Like, you wouldn't assume that George Carlin was a super patriotic, ultra-religious conservative, or that Seinfeld is a polite, unobservant man who hates sarcasm, or that Sarah Silverman is a super religious, prim and proper lady who despises blue humor in real life. What is especially weird about that argument is that the comments themselves are being defended as 'jokes', so the controversial statements are literally part of his work.

Anyone that thinks a comedian should have to be careful about what they say probably shouldn't even say George Carlin.

Alright, you are completely ignoring what I said. That's that then.

The joke could be called insensitive, sure, but what do people want him to do? Not care if his son is gay or straight? Is there anything wrong with having a preference? I don't want my son to be homosexual either, is that taboo now? Will I get modded for saying it? I'm not trying to demean anyone, it's a personal view that I hold, can we not hold personal views anymore? How will my homosexual son produce grandsons and extend my lineage?
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That is what people are freaking out over?

lmao

But Kevin Hart sucks so not much is lost
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Mister_Spyker posted...

but what do people want him to do? Not care if his son is gay or straight?

...yes?
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I mean, isn't stand up comedy at it's core inherently offensive? Are gay people above being made fun of in stand up? I'm genuinely asking.

Like, I'm a pretty big guy but I don't get mad over fat jokes because I know how to laugh at myself.
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SSJCAT posted...
ok since apparently most of yall havent seen the tweets people are actually mad about, not that half-assed apology tweet, here you go:
https://mobile.twitter.com/benfraserlee/status/1070413541012893696

Since people don't want to look through the topic, or they like to pretend it wasn't posted, I'll re-post this link.

He always annoyed me with his yelling in his comedy, so I wasn't really a fan, but these tweets just go to show how unfunny and ignorant he is. If you believe he has evolved since then, good for you, but I don't. I believe he just knows how easily he could lose his career over expressing how he truly feels about gay people.
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BlueBoy675 posted...

I mean, isn't stand up comedy at it's core inherently offensive? Are gay people above being made fun of in stand up? I'm genuinely asking.

Like, I'm a pretty big guy but I don't get mad over fat jokes because I know how to laugh at myself.

I'm fine myself if someone wanted to make a sexist or homophobic joke as long as they injected some comedy into it. Kevin Heart just said he'd beat his kid up if he was gay and left no room for comedy in his remark about a genuine fear and thing many gay kids suffer from.
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PleaseClap posted...

Mister_Spyker posted...

but what do people want him to do? Not care if his son is gay or straight?

...yes?

But what if he does care? Is he supposed to pretend he doesn't, so he can conform? Should he dismiss his personal views to please the public? Do you think that's the answer? There are several valid reasons to prefer having heterosexual children. You can't dismiss the fact that a homosexual can't breed with his partner. Sure they can adopt, but those aren't his genes.
That doesn't mean you won't love your child, but this stuff isn't black and white for either party.
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He eats poop!
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Mister_Spyker posted...

PleaseClap posted...

Mister_Spyker posted...

but what do people want him to do? Not care if his son is gay or straight?

...yes?

But what if he does care? Is he supposed to pretend he doesn't, so he can conform? Should he dismiss his personal views to please the public? Do you think that's the answer? There are several valid reasons to prefer having heterosexual children. You can't dismiss the fact that a homosexual can't breed with his partner. Sure they can adopt, but those aren't his genes.
That doesn't mean you won't love your child, but this stuff isn't black and white for either party.

So.

I don't know if I really have to explain this, but your children don't live for you. It's not about what you want, their life is about them. They aren't a vessel for your desires, and they're going to be gay no matter what you "prefer".

So yeah, the answer is to not care if your kid is gay or not, because there are no valid reasons for "preferring" that they're straight
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PleaseClap posted...

So.

I don't know if I really have to explain this, but your children don't live for you. It's not about what you want, their life is about them. They aren't a vessel for your desires, and they're going to be gay no matter what you "prefer".

So yeah, the answer is to not care if your kid is gay or not, because there are no valid reasons for "preferring" that they're straight

Every actual parent knows that you will have dreams for your child. This is normal. Not caring is not normal.
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And every good parent recognizes that their dreams are unimportant compared to the actual wants and needs of their child
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Evol posted...

goldenBoi45 posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

I would bet most of the fake outrage isn't even from people who are gay or bisexual. It's from the SJW crowd who wants to feel offended on someone else's behalf.

Im a gay man who takes issue with what was said.

Avoid comedy if anything a comic says gets you up in arms.

SaithSayer posted...

Evol posted...

goldenBoi45 posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

I would bet most of the fake outrage isn't even from people who are gay or bisexual. It's from the SJW crowd who wants to feel offended on someone else's behalf.

Im a gay man who takes issue with what was said.

Avoid comedy if anything a comic says gets you up in arms.

Sure, if it's an actual joke and not just a really ignorant expression of that 'comedian's' hate.
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SquirrelyDan posted...

SaithSayer posted...

Evol posted...

goldenBoi45 posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

I would bet most of the fake outrage isn't even from people who are gay or bisexual. It's from the SJW crowd who wants to feel offended on someone else's behalf.

Im a gay man who takes issue with what was said.

Avoid comedy if anything a comic says gets you up in arms.

Sure, if it's an actual joke and not just a really ignorant expression of that 'comedian's' hate.

Kevin Hart is one of the most successful comedians. Either way, he's just a comic. It's stupid to care about his feelings on anything. Anyone that needs entertainers to share your views to be able to enjoy their media is daft.

SaithSayer posted...

SquirrelyDan posted...

SaithSayer posted...

Evol posted...

goldenBoi45 posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

I would bet most of the fake outrage isn't even from people who are gay or bisexual. It's from the SJW crowd who wants to feel offended on someone else's behalf.

Im a gay man who takes issue with what was said.

Avoid comedy if anything a comic says gets you up in arms.

Sure, if it's an actual joke and not just a really ignorant expression of that 'comedian's' hate.

Kevin Hart is one of the most successful comedians. Either way, he's just a comic. It's stupid to care about his feelings on anything. Anyone that needs entertainers to share your views to be able to enjoy their media is daft.

So given that you only post for your own entertainment, maybe you should have the clarity of mind to realize that deriving joy from gaslighting someone is just sadistic and abusive. Cut that shit out.
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SaithSayer posted...

SquirrelyDan posted...

SaithSayer posted...

Evol posted...

goldenBoi45 posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

I would bet most of the fake outrage isn't even from people who are gay or bisexual. It's from the SJW crowd who wants to feel offended on someone else's behalf.

Im a gay man who takes issue with what was said.

Avoid comedy if anything a comic says gets you up in arms.

Sure, if it's an actual joke and not just a really ignorant expression of that 'comedian's' hate.

Kevin Hart is one of the most successful comedians. Either way, he's just a comic. It's stupid to care about his feelings on anything. Anyone that needs entertainers to share your views to be able to enjoy their media is daft.

I don't care what his views are, but just because he's a comic doesn't make everything he says a joke. If any person, celebrity or not, posts hateful things on the internet then they have to deal with the results. I'm talking specifically about people getting upset, not him losing jobs or a career necessarily. It's the reality we live in today. If he's too stubborn to apologize again that's his choice, but he doesn't get to choose how other people react to his choices. I'll say again that I don't believe he has evolved nor grown when it comes to his views on gay people. If he really did grow as a person he would care that his words hurt some people. He doesn't care.
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i really wish he had just said a good message about not beating your gay kids... and not directing the apology to "the gay community" like it's some shit he's never had to deal with but maybe directing it at his target audience of dads and other family members who might be going through that shit literally.

i already hated kevin hart for being short and cheating on his wife but whatever, overall it is damaging to our free internet speech for this to happen and i care about that too.
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