Board 8 > English Literature Mafia Topic 5: Don't Forget to Read the Forward

(+) Yeah! (+)

Also for people who want me to be less chill:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWtfOHBF1_w&list=RDGWtfOHBF1_w&start_radio=1
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Er... Pez

Who I assume is VicPez of Mercs3 fame but you know, maybe it's some other Pez. I shouldn't assume that.
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Lopen posted...

Also don't like red13n continuing to focus on the Serial Killer thing when Vic has posted a ton of content since then. Seems lazy. Ulti doing it is a bit more forgivable but isn't red13n supposed to be good at this game. That's what the propaganda always tells me though I'm not sure I've ever seen it.

That's why I'm kind of side eyeing Tom calling Red Town for "doing stuff" day one.

It was very "citation needed"

Lopen posted...

Er... Pez

Who I assume is VicPez of Mercs3 fame but you know, maybe it's some other Pez. I shouldn't assume that.

Red Herring, AIM Mafia fame.
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Sbell's War Games reference is better than anything Lea has provided lately, 5tar.
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So, in other words:

##Unvote
##Vote: Lea

Lopens time will come, dont you worry.
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Look Lea we've created movement and are going to force someone to claim other than the person who I think is scum.

Did we do good? :)
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Yeah my time will come when I get day 1 night killed just like the good old days

Damn all you people saying I'm town
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Technically inaccurate

The person I thought was most scummy when I said we should focus on that person*
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##Vote: Lea

Time to stop playing around and actually give us a reason to not vote Im afraid

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Look Lea we've created movement and are going to force someone to claim other than the person who I think is scum.

Did we do good? :)

Are you implying that you dont think Lea is scum?
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Tough crowd this morning! Look, it's not shameful to not be good at mafia. I find a lot of things fun I'm not good at it. It's not woe is me, I'm so sad. It's an objective analysis of how I play and the results I've gotten. But fine, people like confidence, sure, who doesn't. But when the argument is "I'm playing worse than I should be as town" that's just not accurate and I'm kind of forced to point that out. I'll happily engage people all day, because I'm Very Bored at work these days, but let's not pretend this is some defense I'm pulling out of nowhere. It's a specific response.

Lopen posted...

Yeah my time will come when I get day 1 night killed just like the good old days

Damn all you people saying I'm town

I can only pray this is the outcome. No offense, Lopen, I just would like to play mafia for once.
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Hbthebattle posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Look Lea we've created movement and are going to force someone to claim other than the person who I think is scum.

Did we do good? :)

Are you implying that you dont think Lea is scum?

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Technically inaccurate

The person I thought was most scummy when I said we should focus on that person*

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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Look Lea we've created movement and are going to force someone to claim other than the person who I think is scum.

Did we do good? :)

I feel like you're not being sincere, but unironically yes.

Lea3Lea posted...

Tough crowd this morning! Look, it's not shameful to not be good at mafia. I find a lot of things fun I'm not good at it. It's not woe is me, I'm so sad. It's an objective analysis of how I play and the results I've gotten. But fine, people like confidence, sure, who doesn't. But when the argument is "I'm playing worse than I should be as town" that's just not accurate and I'm kind of forced to point that out. I'll happily engage people all day, because I'm Very Bored at work these days, but let's not pretend this is some defense I'm pulling out of nowhere. It's a specific response.

Do you have any defenses other than Oh, poor me? Because this is my first game with you in it, and I still find you scummy.
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Lea3Lea posted...

Tough crowd this morning! Look, it's not shameful to not be good at mafia. I find a lot of things fun I'm not good at it. It's not woe is me, I'm so sad. It's an objective analysis of how I play and the results I've gotten. But fine, people like confidence, sure, who doesn't. But when the argument is "I'm playing worse than I should be as town" that's just not accurate and I'm kind of forced to point that out. I'll happily engage people all day, because I'm Very Bored at work these days, but let's not pretend this is some defense I'm pulling out of nowhere. It's a specific response.

Not my argument, actually. You have never as town being one to say "Guess we can't lynch the good players day 1" I have been on the receiving end of town Le_ going "let's kill scum chris whee" day 1 and stabbing me over and over. My memory does not fade quickly.
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I mean, I want to be on the right side of history here, Im just not ready to make a determination on Lea yet.

the poor me is troubling, but prior to that I didn't get the vibe pulsing through everyones veins right now.
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I mean mind you I was town in that game, but still.
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Also I am for sure dead tonight because although I am apparently what's the quote... "a shell of my former self" I am the only person who has been able to push any lynches this game successfully <_<
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I think "Oh, poor me" is a defense that fits the offense, currently. Questionable lynch, here. Feels like it's a hollow pressure lynch for the sake of having a pressure lynch more than anything. Can people on the lynch go into more detail on their suspicions?
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Also Lea top suspicion that isn't based on activity and why go
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Also I am for sure dead tonight because although I am apparently what's the quote... "a shell of my former self" I am the only person who has been able to push any lynches this game successfully <_<

I offered you a spot on my porch, its safe here.
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Im hoping that Lea will provide some sort of argument as to who they think is a better lynch and why. I want to be convinced on who she thinks is scum and why I dont care about how she rates her ability at mafia. I feel the only way to get that response is to make the pressure more realistic. These afk guys look suspicious and Im bad at mafia are kind of useless

Lopen posted...

I think "Oh, poor me" is a defense that fits the offense, currently. Questionable lynch, here. Feels like it's a hollow pressure lynch for the sake of having a pressure lynch more than anything. Can people on the lynch go into more detail on their suspicions?

Gladly!

First off despite being pretty active Lea hasn't actually done anything, to my recollection. An example if you prompted HB discussion. Ulti has researched past games, Tom has chosen to poke me and stuck with it for a lot of the day. Lea has been posting but not pushing the game forward in any meaningful way.

Secondly that quote about not lynching good players is glaring when I have first hand knowledge that a town Lea goes on adventures after me specifically. She is trying to hang onto being the same but I know that cloak isn't true.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Lea3Lea posted...

Tough crowd this morning! Look, it's not shameful to not be good at mafia. I find a lot of things fun I'm not good at it. It's not woe is me, I'm so sad. It's an objective analysis of how I play and the results I've gotten. But fine, people like confidence, sure, who doesn't. But when the argument is "I'm playing worse than I should be as town" that's just not accurate and I'm kind of forced to point that out. I'll happily engage people all day, because I'm Very Bored at work these days, but let's not pretend this is some defense I'm pulling out of nowhere. It's a specific response.

Not my argument, actually. You have never as town being one to say "Guess we can't lynch the good players day 1" I have been on the receiving end of town Le_ going "let's kill scum chris whee" day 1 and stabbing me over and over. My memory does not fade quickly.

Really? I don't remember ever voting you, or any other power player in the past several years. Admittedly, I don't remember a lot of things but it still feels like you're making things up, in a similar vein to why on three separate occasions you've protected mzero

Lopen posted...

Also Lea top suspicion that isn't based on activity and why go

I think Htaed is scum.

Reason: gut

Obellisk posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Also I am for sure dead tonight because although I am apparently what's the quote... "a shell of my former self" I am the only person who has been able to push any lynches this game successfully <_<

I offered you a spot on my porch, its safe here.

I'll take it.
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5tarscream posted...

Im hoping that Lea will provide some sort of argument as to who they think is a better lynch and why. I want to be convinced on who she thinks is scum and why I dont care about how she rates her ability at mafia. I feel the only way to get that response is to make the pressure more realistic. These afk guys look suspicious and Im bad at mafia are kind of useless

Do you always join lynches explicitly for "pressure" without believing the target is scum?

Okay alot of push against lea i see. Well i think some of the people pushing the lea votes reasoning are a lot of waggoning. I think its possible a scum is hiding in it.

Looking at the reasoning so most of it is lea isnt playing well? Isnt playing well makes you scum now? I guess im probably scum every game right?

Looking at those voting lea

Chris tom hb and 5tar (Cam) and (Corrik)

Corrik is following chris (Still hate that play)

Cam has been jumping on and off that train so moght be worth keepong and eye on.

Im looking more at hb for our possible scum in the group maybe even cam if he is to jump back on again.
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Oh and 5 tar after that post interesting so he wants to put pressure on (never a bad thing but hasnt offered up much other reads)
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Lea3Lea posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Lea3Lea posted...

Tough crowd this morning! Look, it's not shameful to not be good at mafia. I find a lot of things fun I'm not good at it. It's not woe is me, I'm so sad. It's an objective analysis of how I play and the results I've gotten. But fine, people like confidence, sure, who doesn't. But when the argument is "I'm playing worse than I should be as town" that's just not accurate and I'm kind of forced to point that out. I'll happily engage people all day, because I'm Very Bored at work these days, but let's not pretend this is some defense I'm pulling out of nowhere. It's a specific response.

Not my argument, actually. You have never as town being one to say "Guess we can't lynch the good players day 1" I have been on the receiving end of town Le_ going "let's kill scum chris whee" day 1 and stabbing me over and over. My memory does not fade quickly.

Really? I don't remember ever voting you, or any other power player in the past several years. Admittedly, I don't remember a lot of things but it still feels like you're making things up, in a similar vein to why on three separate occasions you've protected mzero

I'll protect him all day if I please ;)

I also don't make things up
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##Unvote

##Vote: Death

Death, j'accuse. Voting HB seemed very out of character for you. Very early.

Look, it's one thing to think I'm scummy, that's a feature not a bug. But I won't stand for being characterized as insecure and woe is me. I'm clearly supremely confident if I'm willing to poke so many bears. Please be more flattering to my ego with your scum arguments, thank you~

##unvote:
##vote: Death

Change of course I'm down with this.
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Lea3Lea posted...

Voting HB seemed very out of character for you. Very early.

Explain why it was out of character please. Just because he was early on the lynch?
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Lea3Lea posted...

5tarscream posted...

Im hoping that Lea will provide some sort of argument as to who they think is a better lynch and why. I want to be convinced on who she thinks is scum and why I dont care about how she rates her ability at mafia. I feel the only way to get that response is to make the pressure more realistic. These afk guys look suspicious and Im bad at mafia are kind of useless

Do you always join lynches explicitly for "pressure" without believing the target is scum?

Not always. If it makes you feel better I dont read you as town either. Im basically neutral on you and I feel like you could be doing more and I feel this is the best way to get that.

Interesting turn to death chris and lea can you provide a bit more to this vote on death?
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Lopen posted...

Lea3Lea posted...

Voting HB seemed very out of character for you. Very early.

Explain why it was out of character please. Just because he was early on the lynch?

Town Death will routinely not vote as long as possible. His level of enthusiasm for voting HB seemed unrealistic, especially based on saying vanilla over villager. Death is someone I consider to be the pinnacle of mafia conservatism. There's also the fact he hasn't done anything I consider meaningful since then.

I think Death got caught up in the whole Vanilla/Villager recently. He was putting in a lot of effort, especially with researching old games. If he was truly scum, I dont think hed need to try that hard to stay on me and look relatively fine. I dont buy it.
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Lea3Lea posted...

Death, j'accuse. Voting HB seemed very out of character for you. Very early.

So youve played enough mafia with death to know what is and isnt in his nature as a town player? Then why did it take so long for you to start playing today.

##Unvote:

Did you know Death was the first player to see what I was doing with Hb, before even Chris?

Does that change your feelings on him at all?
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Hbthebattle posted...

I think Death got caught up in the whole Vanilla/Villager recently. He was putting in a lot of effort, especially with researching old games. If he was truly scum, I dont think hed need to try that hard to stay on me and look relatively fine. I dont buy it.

Death would totally do that as scum tbh
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Lopen posted...

Did you know Death was the first player to see what I was doing with Hb, before even Chris?

Does that change your feelings on him at all?

What did he do with it precisely?
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I've played quite a bit today

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

I think Death got caught up in the whole Vanilla/Villager recently. He was putting in a lot of effort, especially with researching old games. If he was truly scum, I dont think hed need to try that hard to stay on me and look relatively fine. I dont buy it.

Death would totally do that as scum tbh

But the way he was voting me was IMO less scummy than the way Lea (and Puns) did so. More reasoned, less quick. He followed up and they didnt. Who looks scummier between the two, Lea or Death?
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He aided a bit in pressuring early, and dropped a vote later.

Honestly if you were to ask me which players on the hb lynch made the most sense he would be top 3.
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Well, sounds like some Death is quite focused on looking good! Highly suspicious imho