Board 8 > English Literature Mafia Topic 5: Don't Forget to Read the Forward

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MZero11 posted...

Ooooh boy people are voting me for barely posting Day 1 again

Just like literally every game I've ever been in

I was unexpectedly busy yesterday so I haven't even started reading topic 3 yet so I guess I'll do that after work

MZero11 posted three hours ago...

I have finished work time to read topic 3

And most of topic 4!

Ok not to put too fine a point on this but it's getting pretty late in Japan by now

Votals (as of post #100):
(2) Hb: (Chris), (Lea), (puns), (Tom), (Corrik), Death, (Cam), Corrik
(2) MZero: (Lea), (Lea), (Lea), Ben, dowolf, (Cam)
(2) Cam: Lopen, (Lea), Sbell
(2) Lea: (Cam), (Corrik), (Cam), (puns), (Chris), Tom, Hb, (5tar)
(2) Death: Lea, Chris
(2) pezloco: Ulti, red
(1) SBell: (Corrik), puns, (Lea)
(1) red: Cam, pezloco
(0) Lopen: (Ulti), (Hb), (SBell)
(0) eaed: (5tar)
(0) Sultan: (pezloco), (SBell)
(0) Lolo: (Lea), (Cam)
(0) Ben: (Chris), (Corrik), (Lea), (dowolf)
(0) Dowolf: (Cam), (Cam), (ben)
(0) Sir Chris: (Tom), (Ben), (puns)
(0) Corrik: (Sultan)
(0) No Lynch: (pezloco), (Tom), (Lopen)
(0) Luis: (Lea)
(0) Ulti: (Lopen), (Hb)
(0) Puns: (Lea), (Corrik), (Ulti)

With 21 alive, it takes 11 votes to reach majority! The day will end on Thursday at 9 pm EDT, or if majority is reached, whichever comes first.

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Ugh, this is the worst votal spread possible. At least if it was me and someone else it would be a meaningful debate.

Alright lynch, safe (2) Hb: (Chris), (Lea), (puns), (Tom), (Corrik), Death, (Cam), Corrik
Great lynch (2) MZero: (Lea), (Lea), (Lea), Ben, dowolf, (Cam)
RNG lynch (2) Cam: Lopen, (Lea), Sbell
Terrible lynch, but please try (2) Lea: (Cam), (Corrik), (Cam), (puns), (Chris), Tom, Hb, (5tar)
Good lynch (2) Death: Lea, Chris
Awful lynch (2) pezloco: Ulti, red
Decent lynch (1) SBell: (Corrik), puns, (Lea)
Reasonable lynch (1) red: Cam, pezloco

I already said I kinda went first instinct when I made that vote, but I already felt like HB did some things that made him look like scum. That just tipped me over.

It felt like a slip at the time. And while I am less sure that it is a scumslip now, I didnt see any reason to unvote HB either.

I can vote early when I want too you know.
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Ok I admit I was humoring Lea to see what came. That was a pretty quick shut down.

Hm.
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My problem with the MZero lynch is two-fold. Firstly he was practically invisible last game too and he was town. He claimed miller then did basically nothing but he was still town so inactivity could just be his thing. Secondly, the people on that lunch are not at all people I have any confidence in as town. Two neutral and a scum lean.

My problem with MZeros lynch is that hes an inactive, and there are better ways to handle inactive than a Day 1 lynch.
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Mzero is one of those players you just need to hope gets scanned or rolls power or something.
(Not trying to direct power here mind you)

We can poke him for more input still tho

@MZero11
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UltimaterializerX posted...

Im a bit wary of Tom. Anyone involved with last game should know full well I have to have a change in attitude to be allowed to keep playing here. So bringing up a change in tone as a leaning scum read seems off.

For most people Id shrug it off but he is literally the guy who gave me a Get Along shirt. And he also says he doesnt like Chris acting chill either.

Chris does that raise an alarm at all?

Good thing I was going after your behavior and not your time then!
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*tone

It begins
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The only inactive I am wary of is Eaed. Because I know he can be inactive as scum from just one game ago!
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That said, Chris.
Does a scum Lea bite the hand of a town that is trying to stick up for her? (Talking about me here).
I am thinking no myself, but dont let that influence your thoughts.
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Lea3Lea posted...

MZero11 posted...

Ooooh boy people are voting me for barely posting Day 1 again

Just like literally every game I've ever been in

I was unexpectedly busy yesterday so I haven't even started reading topic 3 yet so I guess I'll do that after work

MZero11 posted three hours ago...

I have finished work time to read topic 3

And most of topic 4!

Ok not to put too fine a point on this but it's getting pretty late in Japan by now

yeah I work pretty late

almost done with topic 3 yay

Lopen/Corrik/puns obvTown
Chris is probably town
eaed is probably scum

subject to change I still have over 500 posts to read
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htaeD posted...

That said, Chris.
Does a scum Lea bite the hand of a town that is trying to stick up for her? (Talking about me here).
I am thinking no myself, but dont let that influence your thoughts.

Name three scum for me?
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Lopen posted...

I feel like I saw the "Chris is too chill" argument last game or two I lurked he was in too and honestly it hasn't really applied for years I don't think. Dude stopped being a seething rage monster years ago. Chris being chill is just a thing he does now. Shouldn't really be a tell either way. I also feel like Tom should know that better than a lot of people so to me him bringing that up is kinda weird.

My last real interaction with Chris was mercs so
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He can be, but theres ways to deal with him without wasting the Day 1 lynch. If he flips town, we learn little, and if he flips scum, we learn little. Theres just little to gain from lynching an inactive this early.
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5tarscream posted...

My problem with the MZero lynch is two-fold. Firstly he was practically invisible last game too and he was town. He claimed miller then did basically nothing but he was still town so inactivity could just be his thing

Wow man I was the only one defending you on the day you got lynched. Did that mean nothing to you?!
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I fair to see how Corrik is obv Town. Sheeping like this in uncharacteristic of him. In Endgame scum chat, he was the only one of us who didnt want to lynch Han because he said he played badly, and wanted to lynch Cam instead. Thinking highly of other players isnt a normal behavior for him.
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Actually I should expand on that for those of you who are not lpen

The last time I even really saw Chris he went peak Chris on me and played me like a dang fiddle and we fought about it a bit

Fun fact pez remember when I randomly asked you about electricity that is related
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MZero11 posted...

Lea3Lea posted...

MZero11 posted...

Ooooh boy people are voting me for barely posting Day 1 again

Just like literally every game I've ever been in

I was unexpectedly busy yesterday so I haven't even started reading topic 3 yet so I guess I'll do that after work

MZero11 posted three hours ago...

I have finished work time to read topic 3

And most of topic 4!

Ok not to put too fine a point on this but it's getting pretty late in Japan by now

yeah I work pretty late

almost done with topic 3 yay

Lopen/Corrik/puns obvTown
Chris is probably town
eaed is probably scum

subject to change I still have over 500 posts to read

....Why do you think Corrik is obvtown?

Do you think Eaed is scum for not posting because if so yikes

Last game Mzero was confirmed town by claiming miller, I don't think it's a strong comparison to this game.

Tom Bombadil posted...

Actually I should expand on that for those of you who are not lpen

The last time I even really saw Chris he went peak Chris on me and played me like a dang fiddle and we fought about it a bit

Fun fact pez remember when I randomly asked you about electricity that is related

Can I point out that was about three years ago... the summer my friend was murdered at pulse <_<

Can bygones be bygones?
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Oh, yeah. Well I think mercs was the last time we saw that Chris

I think
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

htaeD posted...

That said, Chris.
Does a scum Lea bite the hand of a town that is trying to stick up for her? (Talking about me here).
I am thinking no myself, but dont let that influence your thoughts.

Name three scum for me?

Had you asked me this earlier I would have had HB on the top3 for sure.
Him not just throwing me under the bus when he could has me confused about his alignment.
In lieu of that I will have to drop him down to an HM
I dont have good scumreads yet either I would say, but I dont trust:
Eaed, Luis (hasnt done much either to my memory) and Cam (though I dont think he is a lone wolf)

Just coming down from work, so I should have more time to read up on some players I didnt really focus on yet.
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Can I just point out I started that Mercs pretty chill too and then bad things happened :(
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Im heading to bed but my preferred lynches would be one of

HB because he STILL hasnt addressed the whole Chris is important but Im not going use him question.

Ben because his defense of HB was weak and he offered nothing else other than lets lynch the inactive when EA has done nothing so the reasoning is stupid. I feel like he was soft backing hb so if he flipped town Ben gets to go see Im so town despite never really trying to say why hb was town or mzero is scum.

SBell because he also just seems to be so different from last game where was town on a mission day 1. Suggests he either isnt trying as hard as town which is lazy and unhelpful or hes scum.

Ulti because I feel like we need to find out if this is I want to play mafia so I gotta be nice and I dont know how to scumhunt and be nice so Im scared of crossing a line. Or its just scum Ulti. Also the arguments against Lopen, pez and Tom are weird to me because they are three of my strongest town reads this game. Hes clearly seeing something Im not and maybe thats a perspective issue because Im town and maybe hes scum.

I tried to go back and format it better. You better appreciate it Tom.

MZero11 posted...

5tarscream posted...

My problem with the MZero lynch is two-fold. Firstly he was practically invisible last game too and he was town. He claimed miller then did basically nothing but he was still town so inactivity could just be his thing

Wow man I was the only one defending you on the day you got lynched. Did that mean nothing to you?!

No puns was town too. Haha.

Lopen posted...

Er... Pez

Who I assume is VicPez of Mercs3 fame but you know, maybe it's some other Pez. I shouldn't assume that.

Nope
Did you miss the whole roommate Powers discussions
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##Vote: Ben

I don't understand how Mzero came up with that list in the slightest

##Unvote

##Vote: Mzero

5tarscream posted...

##Vote: Ben

Why? Elaborate?

I hate votes like this
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##unvote:
##vote: Ben

And we come back to the beginning! I like where 5tar is at in this game. Let's go.
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Starscream justified in post 126

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

5tarscream posted...

##Vote: Ben

Why? Elaborate?

I hate votes like this

He did a few posts up.
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Lea3Lea posted...

Mzero was confirmed town by claiming miller

where do I file an official town disagreement form

Chris is doing a shit ton if Vote jumping

Usually when i see this the person is typically scum.

Chris has been giving me bad feelings so far this game as well like i said before thats why i dont like how corrik was playing.

Anyone else getting very bad vibes from chris?
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chris do you have the pocket-size cliff notes of why ben is scum handy?

Lea3Lea posted...

Lopen posted...

Also don't like red13n continuing to focus on the Serial Killer thing when Vic has posted a ton of content since then. Seems lazy. Ulti doing it is a bit more forgivable but isn't red13n supposed to be good at this game. That's what the propaganda always tells me though I'm not sure I've ever seen it.

That's why I'm kind of side eyeing Tom calling Red Town for "doing stuff" day one.

It was very "citation needed"

Compare last game where he didn't do stuff

The bar is low for him d1 but this is not SCUM d1 red activity in my experience
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turbopuns3 posted...

chris do you have the pocket-size cliff notes of why ben is scum handy?

This would be useful i havent seen much if an argument on ben id like to see more of the argument
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5tarscream posted...

SBell because he also just seems to be so different from last game where was town on a mission day 1. Suggests he either isnt trying as hard as town which is lazy and unhelpful or hes scum.

I've also in a round about way been defending hb this entire game. Yet its not part of your reasoning for not liking me.

Last game I was town on a mission, how many people did i even vote day 1? Two maybe, one was you for sure. So far this game i've gone after Cam, Lopen, Sultan. I guarantee at least one in the three ( i know i said i've given you three earlier but lets be real, i'm not THAT good on Day1). So you want to say i'm lazy and unhelpful? Try again hot shot.
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Also he was at Disney last game true but
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Yeah, Chris normally is more solid, and waits to apply more pressure to a person before jumping. He left Lea just because she pointed out someone new she suspected, which I feel is far more light.
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Lea3Lea posted...

....Why do you think Corrik is obvtown?

Do you think Eaed is scum for not posting because if so yikes

Corrik's interaction with puns early was exactly what I expect from Town Corrik

not all inactivity is created equal. eaed griping about how many topics there are reeks of fake content. He's trying to justify his activity by blaming everyone for posting so much when I think town eaed just gets caught up and posts his thoughts. at least that's my head meta of him
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I feel really cheated out of a brawl tbh.

turbopuns3 posted...

Lea3Lea posted...

Mzero was confirmed town by claiming miller

where do I file an official town disagreement form

Especially cause town was in full miller paranoia mode from the previous game apparently
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turbopuns3 posted...

chris do you have the pocket-size cliff notes of why ben is scum handy?

In my wall of posts I noted I liked 5tar's thinking on Ben but I disagreed because I thought HB was scum.

Buuut HB's been doing some earnest defending of people this topic that made me waffle on that more and thus Ben's grr defense of HB looks like TMI
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It is pretty convenient how Eaed technically posts just enough to not be replaced

Hbthebattle posted...

Yeah, Chris normally is more solid, and waits to apply more pressure to a person before jumping. He left Lea just because she pointed out someone new she suspected, which I feel is far more light.

To be fair, I think Chris has voted me every time we play together. (even when we're scum together)
Points to Sultan for calling Chris out though. Pretty sure thats a townsultan trait.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

In my wall of posts I noted I liked 5tar's thinking on Ben but I disagreed because I thought HB was scum.

Is there any link between Ben and Lea in your view