Board 8 > English Literature Mafia Topic 8: Dedicated to Delseban Part II: The Musical

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Corrik7 posted...

Anyways, Red, are you intending to respond to the Chris argument thing? Or just gonna ignore it?

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(Also mafia people havent seen this account, don't ever timestamp scam me on this account because this account refreshes gfaqs every 5 seconds 24/7.)

Nobody with any respect uses timestamps. It is outside the mafia info.

*looking at you, red*
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Was going to get there in due time corrik(I'm not in a hurry, notice how few people are here).

But it is simply chris overthinking the situation, for the short answer.
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red13n posted...

Was going to get there in due time corrik(I'm not in a hurry, notice how few people are here).

But it is simply chris overthinking the situation, for the short answer.

Do you intend to claim in response or do you feel your 4 word response "chris overthinking the situation" is enough to sway voters off of you? (Despite the fact you could probably not post a single time the rest of the day and the voters on you will still disperse.)

I felt as town you would have fluidly reacted with a quicker snap to that response. But, I still feel you are town due to your day 1 play as it is.
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Red, btw you bussed your teammate last game as scum. You said you never do that as scum ever. So, you lied.
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Corrik7 posted...

Do you intend to claim in response or do you feel your 4 word response "chris overthinking the situation" is enough to sway voters off of you? (Despite the fact you could probably not post a single time the rest of the day and the voters on you will still disperse.)

I havent had a chance to read the whole day yet. I'm getting there.
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Corrik7 posted...

Red, btw you bussed your teammate last game as scum. You said you never do that as scum ever. So, you lied.

I was scum. You expect me to tell the truth?

Also I didn't actually intend to bus panth. But he actually returned with a really bad post that looked fucking damning as hell if I flipped. I even commented on the scumboard that I expected to flip first. I was trying to set him up to be the hero and he kind of blew it up right after.

It was -not- the plan but I saw the writing on the wall.
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red13n posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Red, btw you bussed your teammate last game as scum. You said you never do that as scum ever. So, you lied.

I was scum. You expect me to tell the truth?

Also I didn't actually intend to bus panth. But he actually returned with a really bad post that looked fucking damning as hell if I flipped. I even commented on the scumboard that I expected to flip first. I was trying to set him up to be the hero and he kind of blew it up right after.

It was -not- the plan but I saw the writing on the wall.

You were town in the previous games you stated it!

But, yeah...
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First thought: Woo Chris and woo dowolf.
Pretty sure no scum gets that role and no scumChris shoots a powerful scumrole like that. Not even to make himself look good. So its nice to have 2 townconfirmeds at once
Second more recent thought: Only one nightkill makes pez' SK talk better looking and makes me more concerned about everyone that voted him for that reason.

Third thought: Time to read a lot.
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4th thought: Starting to get worried about Ben.
Yes he always calls me scum, but now it feels more like he is doing it because its expected of him
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Oh Corrik started being coherent, nice.

I am going to be largely MIA until Sunday evening, on a weekend trip with the gf starting tomorrow morning. Uh... yeah I'll skim as much as possible, just let me know if you need anything.
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I can't find it but you said I could vouch for the fact that you don't apologize.

That was the one thing I asked for you to verify until that point(the work point).

The only other vouch I asked for was scare, likely something about how I throw metaphorical violence around in mafia all the time.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Oh Corrik started being coherent, nice.

I am going to be largely MIA until Sunday evening, on a weekend trip with the gf starting tomorrow morning. Uh... yeah I'll skim as much as possible, just let me know if you need anything.

ugh you better be here at some point I need you to actually realize I'm town.
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red13n posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Oh Corrik started being coherent, nice.

I am going to be largely MIA until Sunday evening, on a weekend trip with the gf starting tomorrow morning. Uh... yeah I'll skim as much as possible, just let me know if you need anything.

ugh you better be here at some point I need you to actually realize I'm town.

Doing things would be helpful. Also the way you've approached me is very, very poor. For reasons I and Lopen have laid out

But as always an instant claim will spare you~
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The red stuff is a little much to take in all at once.
I will get back to it when I am more awake, but I did think that scum wouldnt shoot a townred because he looks too scummy for them to want to kill him anyway. But he could also just be scum yes.
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Also one more order of business I had on the table prepared for today before i forget. Luis opened the day trying to justify puns' miller claim to hb. It was his first big interaction of the day and felt like it was very early town courting. Think you can reasonably put hb in any town pile.

(I actually need to finish digging through Luis, didn't get a chance to finish today).
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Doing things would be helpful. Also the way you've approached me is very, very poor. For reasons I and Lopen have laid out

But as always an instant claim will spare you~

honestly, you kind of surprised me not just answering right away(Actually, shouldn't have been). I was kind of hoping for a quicker less tailored response from you but it was fine anyway. But I was literally in a hurry at work. Also don't tell me an insta-claim will spare me thats just dumb.
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Also I reworded that and am tired dont you dare comment.
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Let's see how you do day 2. I admit I like my magic trick but given enough data i am always willing to change my mind.
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hmph...Luis looks like he was blatantly fishing on cam. But cam ends up responding with pure crazy(the whole lost wolf talk started rather arbitrarily at that point).
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red13n posted...

hmph...Luis looks like he was blatantly fishing on cam. But cam ends up responding with pure crazy(the whole lost wolf talk started rather arbitrarily at that point).

:D

NONE SHALL PASS

Also cam if it makes you feel better I had no idea how little Luis had actually posted simply because he was a person I had a couple direct interactions with in the first half of the day.

at least through the first half and change anyway.
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also bigger points for hb with Luis coming in and calling him naive.
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For the sake of argument, lets say eaed and Chris were both scum, and more to the point, you suspect both are equally likely to be scum. Sure lynching eaed is the path of least resistance and any scum lynch is a good one, but what good does it do if Chris is left up days later when the most assertive townies, and possibly yourself, are dead and can't confront him?

i wish eaed was still in the game he'd be riding high as probable confirmed town here.
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Lopen is my strongest town reading; I've found myself agreeing with his insights the most, acting like affirmation of my own thoughts of sorts.

welcome to being town listed, Lopen.
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Also I usually am pretty good at ignoring Lea's shitposting but...

Kill the scum! Cut his throat! Kill the scum! Bash him in!

The metaphorical violence oh no.
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Also it should be kind of obvious but I'm going to restate it before someone(cam comes to mind) forgets it. Luis basically spent a post telling chris to kill puns.
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also the word last was supposed to be in that sentence somewhere. you guys know what i meant.
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Is this your big defense? It seems like all your doing is trying to set up other people to look good in future.

Still reading, slowly. About to hit the red wall.

Something is going on with the bitterness about Chris using his role early. Mostly with what Puns and Sbell said. Sbell is even so petty that he complains about Puns complaining as well. Not sure which of the two that makes less or more suspicious tho.

(Btw Corrik saying Chris using the shot day1 is bad is hilarious given how he actually used his gladiate last game.)
Corrik turning on Chris also feels too dumb to be genuine. He should be able to see the myriad of reasons scum could have to not kill Chris right away.
Perhaps he knows scum has a strongman/assassin type role.
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As an extension of that, Mzero has some good townish fire going on when he calls Sbell salty.

Question for @benjamin3740
Why did you have red in your town reads?
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and Cam should really put his cliffnote opinions in a separate list at the bottom
Now I cant even tell if he made any of his own conclusions from Luis' posts.
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5tarscream posted...

Is this your big defense? It seems like all your doing is trying to set up other people to look good in future.

No, that is me sorting through the obvious from the game.

What exactly kind of a big defense are you expecting anyway? I can tell you the obvious that I'm town. I can tell you where my head is spinning when things are sorted, and i can tell you what my thoughts were at various periods of the game. But the day is still young, there is a lot of time still. (in game time, truth be told i spent the last hour sleeping).

Oh there was a Pez train huh.
That quickly went nowhere, but I am surprised people even jumped on so fast.
Because of roommate powers or because they thought Tom softclaimed a scan?
(admittedly I am only thinking of the latter because it would be funny if he got to the scanner with the 'this guy is totes scum yall', after I did it to him last game)
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I am also upset that Pez gets vet credit while I do not.
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Im expecting you to show me something significant. Something individual. Something you as town player with nearly 60 hours of reading can find and say ok this is what Ive got. Alternatively you could claim.

htaeD posted...

Pretty sure no scum gets that role

Why not?
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htaeD posted...

4th thought: Starting to get worried about Ben.
Yes he always calls me scum, but now it feels more like he is doing it because its expected of him

Point to where I did that?
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pezloco posted...

Am I really the only one who thinks Sultan's posts are cheap? No one seemed to care yesterday. And no one seems to care today. But no one has pointed out what I'm missing. I feel like it's just being lost in everything else.

I think I'd agree with that? But my instinct, looking over his interactions with Luis, is that he comes out looking better for it.
Hbthebattle posted...

One other interesting tidbit is why Chris may have survived. In scumchat for Endgame, Corrik was super anti killing Han, partially because he thought Cam was the cop, partially because he thought Han wasn't that strong, and most importantly, partially because he wanted to let the big town players get a chance to play the game. It's not a definite guarantee Corrik is scum, but it's worth looking into.

this is a really bad argument. especially because I also survived, and I wouldn't call myself a "big town player."

finally: so red hasn't claimed with all those votes on him huh?
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Red is so experienced that he doesnt seem remotely rattled. He feels he can just pop in and out and eventually people will decide its pointless wasting their time and voters will drop off. He also has the all powerful all seeing Corrik for support

htaeD posted...

The red stuff is a little much to take in all at once.
I will get back to it when I am more awake, but I did think that scum wouldnt shoot a townred because he looks too scummy for them to want to kill him anyway. But he could also just be scum yes.

When did you think that? When you were planning the shot? (Okay NOW I just insinuated you're scum LOL)
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MZero11 posted...

htaeD posted...

Pretty sure no scum gets that role

Why not?

Whats to stop them from giving it to scum?
Is what I thought at first

But now that you made me think again, it does remind me of my Robb Stark dayvig role which could only target town. So perhaps not. I am not feeling like entertaining that possibility at all yet though
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Lopen posted...

Hey @Tom_Bombadil when you get back could you go into when Pez became one of your top suspects for me?

As previously alluded to it's mostly his tone doesn't feel right. I don't have much quantifiable to give you but I rarely do when I peg him. That said I like him a bit better today and the sk hunting argument has always been junk
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htaeD posted...

As an extension of that, Mzero has some good townish fire going on when he calls Sbell salty.

Question for
Why did you have red in your town reads?

I missed his name. Skimmed down the playerlist but still skipped his somehow. Then a few minutes later saw someone mention Red and remembered I didn't put him on the NON- town reads list
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We also had a scum lawayer that could only change a lynch from scum to town

I don't think a dowolf lynch is worth pushing today but I don't think he's confirmed town by any stretch
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Ben
1: You posted a list of not town reads and included me on it. (also I am pretty sure you called me scummy before that)

2. I thought that specifically when I woke up and saw posts discussing why scum would keep red alive. But to be more loosely accurate, I do always wonder who the nightkill is going to be every time. Because sometimes I either fear of getting killed as townpower, or I want to get killed as town nilla.
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benjamin3740 posted...

htaeD posted...

As an extension of that, Mzero has some good townish fire going on when he calls Sbell salty.

Question for
Why did you have red in your town reads?

I missed his name. Skimmed down the playerlist but still skipped his somehow. Then a few minutes later saw someone mention Red and remembered I didn't put him on the NON- town reads list

Well I did miss your later list then, but thats plausible. It is a bigger game than usual.
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MZero11 posted...

We also had a scum lawayer that could only change a lynch from scum to town

I don't think a dowolf lynch is worth pushing today but I don't think he's confirmed town by any stretch

healthy suspicion is good. just don't let it become stupid paranoia.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

Tom and Pez and Red have a very similar relationship to Red and Chris, as far as I can tell, insofar as when they're on different teams you know it really quickly. My thought process is literally "oh these dudes are all alive, maybe they're on the same team after all", and then I changed my mind after asking Tom for his read. Which I'm allowed to do, I would assume.

This makes a bit more sense but look at it through my lens: I think there's a pretty good chance all three of you are scum, I've been on Pez pretty much all game (there's the other half of my answer lopen) and don't see much reason to lump red in with me either. So regardless of whatever else you've done it looks like a way to sneak a clear in

Pez and I have a lot of history with red but not so much that he's the third roommate btw
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