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benjamin3740 06/22/19 8:20:56 AM #251: |
htaeD posted...
Ben List of not town reads doesn't equate to saying you're scum. It's just posting the names not on my town list since my town list is bigger than those not on it. You seem either paranoid, or reaching to be able to say you're worried about me! --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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htaeD 06/22/19 8:27:48 AM #252: |
Sure sounds like it to me!
You even said all the scum were likely in your list (of 7 players) Then again I somehow confused your past towngames for scumgames too, largely due to what I remember is you trying to get me to crack. So maybe a little paranoid. But it still feels different. --- 3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pezloco 06/22/19 8:32:06 AM #253: |
A few hours of sleep and screaming kids later I'm back. Let's see if I can explain my read on Sultan better or maybe understand why you guys don't agree.
About Sultan. I see him repeating what other people say or saying something that adds practically nothing to the conversation. For example his first suspicion on Tom for being fluffy. So i find it odd that scum would chose to kill scare over chris after chris choosing correctly so that seems odd. I guess maube they thought he would have been protected or something? Eirher way chris looks good now though he did give me some weird vibes yesterday so id say This was 2/3's of his opening D2 post. Chris is town, he did good. Corrik sheeped Chris. Nothing original or useful here. Lea looks good for pointing out flaws on luis page 2 yes cam i did actually see her post dont say i didnt hence the town points for lea but thats not here nor their Here's the rest of his first post. I can't say these thoughts come from others. But there's no meat here. There's no depth. I see a potential scum hiding behind CONTENT that isn't actually content. Maybe I should have been using the word shallow to describe him instead of cheap. ##Vote:Corrik This post makes me feel a little better I guess. Not because he stops being shallow, but if the profile I'm building of him is that he's trying to hide placing a vote down on Corrik is not a good way to hide. So, maybe here's a good hint at my read being wrong. TheSultanOfSlam posted... Hmm it is odd red is here too over scare who definitely felt out of the most exsperianced players who seemed the least threating since he was newly into the game but idk this is all bad meta trying tonthink of what the scum team would do. This however still fits that profile. Voicing a thought that was already bubbling around. TheSultanOfSlam posted... Pez doesnt loke me for taking the advice of o believe it was Han and maybe Ulti? to keep my reads short and sweet opposed to what i was doing in games of past. I have good reada just dont i guess exspress them the best. So no matter what i do it doesnt seem to help with atleast someone though form my experience the ones who pick on me for my reads the most are usually scum trying to convince everyone om scum beacuse im an easy miss lynch so let me go back and look into your game more beacuse right now im thinking this possibly what is going on Maybe I should take my own advice from the HB lynch where I said people tend to get stuck on something and not actually listen to the accused person's explanation of themselves. Like they read it and immediately dismiss it. What people don't do is take it and then go and reread. So, given I seem to be the only one who feels that Sultan is scum hiding behind other people's reads and reads that won't stick out, I'll hold off on him for now. --- I'm the Pez and I'm AWESOME ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Obellisk 06/22/19 8:39:04 AM #254: |
Morning kids.
Just checking in. Don't remember when I passed out. I'll have to do some catch up later. I got the girls dance recital this morning. No real thoughts at the moment. --- (\____/) ( SBell ) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pezloco 06/22/19 8:43:35 AM #255: |
TheSultanOfSlam posted...
pezloco posted... There was a post where I said the magic trick that Chris did town clears Chris, not that we really needed Chris town cleared, which was part of what Lopen and Chris said made Red scum. Chris' reasoning goes much farther than just that. However the only way the magic trick doesn't town clear Chris is if Red and Chris are scum together. So, the only way I'd consider Chris scum right now is if you consider Red scum too. That's my starting position when I read your post. --- I'm the Pez and I'm AWESOME ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pezloco 06/22/19 8:49:37 AM #256: |
Camarija posted...
Corrik7 posted...Camarija posted...Corrik7 posted...What could Chris possibly have on red Wait the timing? I totally thought it was that he responded "violently" that bothered you? Explain the timing please. --- I'm the Pez and I'm AWESOME ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pezloco 06/22/19 8:54:34 AM #257: |
Corrik7 posted...
Lopen posted...Proof of my theory to myself and because I felt no risk in doing so. Also being a lightning rod can be a useful scum hunting tool. One I like because I can just focus on myself and get leads. Yay more Corrik being Corrik. --- I'm the Pez and I'm AWESOME ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pezloco 06/22/19 9:01:52 AM #258: |
Hbthebattle posted...
ok I finally caught up Red is the type of player to come in and out as both scum and town. The way to read him isn't volume but what's inside. Scum Red tends to try to look useful. I expect his skill to be high. So, when I see him skip over a topic of conversation that would benefit town my radar goes off on him. Last game he skipped over my read on Tom when he knows how well Tom and I read each other. This game he did something similar. Tom repeatedly said the way I discuss SK's and third parties was null. But Red skipped over that and voted me and a big part of his vote was the SK thing. Chris magic tricked Red into town clearing a Chris that didn't need to be town cleared. Scum Red trying to look useful gives a town clear on Chris. But it's not providing real content since Chris didn't really need to be cleared. --- I'm the Pez and I'm AWESOME ... Copied to Clipboard!
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5tarscream 06/22/19 9:02:27 AM #259: |
corriks gonna corrik he loves a good fishing expedition
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pezloco 06/22/19 9:03:38 AM #260: |
Hbthebattle posted...
Corrik if you make a statement like " There are no millers this game. Signed. Sealed. Delivered. " you better back it up He has no plans to do this. But that doesn't make him scum. --- I'm the Pez and I'm AWESOME ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoomTheGyarados 06/22/19 9:08:17 AM #261: |
Pez, you are expecting a bit too much skill out of the Sultan slot. He isn't top tier, he is trying his best and he has multiple data points pointing to town. But especially how Luis went hard on him.
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5tarscream 06/22/19 9:08:19 AM #262: |
pezloco posted...
Hbthebattle posted...Corrik if you make a statement like " There are no millers this game. Signed. Sealed. Delivered. " you better back it up It makes him Corrik. Corrik if youre here. Can you tell me why you think red is town without referring to Chris? Like if you take the Chris interactions from today out what makes this red so nailed on town to you? Also I thought you lived for claims. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoomTheGyarados 06/22/19 9:13:17 AM #263: |
So, I think an exercise that would prove useful today is to establish unaligned pairs among the living as well pursue our suspicions and triangulate Luis suspicions.
I want everyone to come up with... three unaligned pairs. Three sets of players who, not through their own actions but through the interactions with each other, are not mafia buddies and go into some reasons. --- Sir Chris ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tom Bombadil 06/22/19 9:14:53 AM #264: |
Lea3Lea posted...
That's what I'm askin', including from you Tom For my part a large chunk of it is following Chris's lead with the "Han never read Doom" bit so if he's not pushing then I'm not nearly as worried about you when there are other fish to fry that are actually getting traction. --- https://imgtc.com/i/uWMMlnN.png Tone yo' flab ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik7 06/22/19 9:14:59 AM #265: |
5tarscream posted...
pezloco posted...Hbthebattle posted...Corrik if you make a statement like " There are no millers this game. Signed. Sealed. Delivered. " you better back it up Red's effort level day 1 highly suggests town. Not guaranteed but highly suggests. Btw. Very confident Mzero is scum. ##unvote; ##vote: mzero Sorry Mzero. I like ya but you are scum this game. You are struggling to make arguments and they lack your logical coherence that you display when town. You sound like someone who knows they need to make an argument but doesn't know what argument to make. Very weak attempts. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Kingdom Hearts 3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoomTheGyarados 06/22/19 9:15:45 AM #266: |
Corrik7 posted...
5tarscream posted...pezloco posted...Hbthebattle posted...Corrik if you make a statement like " There are no millers this game. Signed. Sealed. Delivered. " you better back it up What was your favorite thing Red did day 1? --- Sir Chris ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tom Bombadil 06/22/19 9:15:46 AM #267: |
Corrik7 posted...
TheSultanOfSlam posted...Is it normal for corrik when people pit suspicion on him to just disappear? well gee I wonder where he would get the idea you were gonna disappear, guy who professed to be skipping d3 --- https://imgtc.com/i/uWMMlnN.png Tone yo' flab ... Copied to Clipboard!
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5tarscream 06/22/19 9:16:18 AM #268: |
What effort level? Like his reads or simply his visibility?
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Corrik7 06/22/19 9:18:26 AM #269: |
DoomTheGyarados posted...
Corrik7 posted...5tarscream posted...pezloco posted...Hbthebattle posted...Corrik if you make a statement like " There are no millers this game. Signed. Sealed. Delivered. " you better back it up Activity. I could pull posts if I re-read day 1, but he did more than I expected him to. Unless you are gonna suggest you being town had him shook, I don't see the extra effort. And, I am not convinced you are town anyways. I felt Red was much more likely to be town than you based on day 1 (particularly minus the last 20 minutes of day 1). --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Kingdom Hearts 3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoomTheGyarados 06/22/19 9:19:06 AM #270: |
Corrik7 posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...Corrik7 posted...5tarscream posted...pezloco posted...Hbthebattle posted...Corrik if you make a statement like " There are no millers this game. Signed. Sealed. Delivered. " you better back it up I say this with all of my heart. Red did nothing of value day 1. --- Sir Chris ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik7 06/22/19 9:20:17 AM #271: |
The only way I see Red as scum is if he is scum with Camarija. Because their spat is so ridiculous it seems like something scum would concoct to seem so ridiculous it has to be true to prove they aren't on the same team.
I don't see Red as scum though, and I don't see Camarija as informed scum. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Kingdom Hearts 3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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5tarscream 06/22/19 9:20:19 AM #272: |
Can you pull 2 of your favourite red posts or reads from D1?
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Obellisk 06/22/19 9:20:27 AM #273: |
I like that mzero vote just cause it fits with my theory that Luis knew he was scum.
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DoomTheGyarados 06/22/19 9:22:41 AM #274: |
I am going to be on the road soon but girlfriend decided to drive for the three hour trip so you will have phone Chris giving MAXIMUM EFFORT.
So you guys have some homework assignments. Note these things are to kind of focus the game in a way to prime you guys for problem solving and to think about how we go forward. I lynched scum yesterday, which is awesome, but it doesn't increase the number of mislynches we have to play with just holds them static so we can't be too happy with ourselves. I learned in a game on another site a month ago that happiness is not achieved until your faction wins, even if you storm the gates and make the scum team really disoriented. No half-measures. Not anymore. So. 1. As previously asked for three unaligned combos 2. Your top four scum suspects, reasoning or not is up to you. --- Sir Chris ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik7 06/22/19 9:23:31 AM #275: |
DoomTheGyarados posted...
Corrik7 posted...DoomTheGyarados posted...Corrik7 posted...5tarscream posted...pezloco posted...Hbthebattle posted...Corrik if you make a statement like " There are no millers this game. Signed. Sealed. Delivered. " you better back it up Red very rarely makes strong pushes or arguments day 1 as town. He usually just parks a vote as Blade does. But, red, unlike Blade, stays on top of the game and gives thoughts regarding the game that make sense day 1 as town. As scum, he tends to slink away and not say much of importance. I felt he was the town former rather than the scum latter. You seem to disagree, but that is not the impression I took from day 1. Mzero is very likely scum tho. If you are trying to distract off his Lynch, it only further cements my scum thoughts regarding you. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Kingdom Hearts 3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoomTheGyarados 06/22/19 9:24:17 AM #276: |
Mzero could be scum for sure, from my memory I haven't had anything good for him.
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Corrik7 06/22/19 9:25:42 AM #277: |
DoomTheGyarados posted...
Mzero could be scum for sure, from my memory I haven't had anything good for him. I quoted posts today that reek of a guy trying to make arguments but not knowing what to say. It is extremely unlike Mzero. Mzero proved last game he can make some really good logical insights and could give a shit less about making arguments he didn't seem worthy of making. His play this game lacks desire. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Kingdom Hearts 3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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5tarscream 06/22/19 9:25:57 AM #278: |
The lynch you only voted after I started asking you about red?
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htaeD 06/22/19 9:26:18 AM #279: |
Off the top of my head I feel like Puns and Sbell arent scum together, but I base that just on a few same interactions where they sniped at each other.
I also dont think Red and Pez would be scum together, if only because why would red bus his own teammate in such a terrible way? Also I had to read through it several times, but I think I get Chris' magic trick now. I dont know scumred well nor do I remember him doing much in WWE Mafia. But putting him being 'red', it was pretty pointless that he made such a big deal out of Chris first suspecting Luis. --- 3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoomTheGyarados 06/22/19 9:26:46 AM #280: |
Mzero is not stupid it is true. I will read those in the car.
Now please give me information that I requested so I can be a good town supercomputer for all of you. --- Sir Chris ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik7 06/22/19 9:27:34 AM #281: |
The only correct answer is that Chris and Dowolf cannot be scum together. It is rulebreaking.
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Tom Bombadil 06/22/19 9:27:50 AM #282: |
Camarija posted...
Is Corrik always belligerent P much yeah --- https://imgtc.com/i/uWMMlnN.png Tone yo' flab ... Copied to Clipboard!
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htaeD 06/22/19 9:28:06 AM #283: |
Top 4 will have come to later.
My previous top 5 is thrown all out of whack now. --- 3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoomTheGyarados 06/22/19 9:28:12 AM #284: |
I mean yes that is accurate but you can give estimations using thst top 7 town brain of yours.
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Tom Bombadil 06/22/19 9:28:55 AM #285: |
Camarija posted...
I'm fine lynching and vigging both Red and Corrik Let's not do that --- https://imgtc.com/i/uWMMlnN.png Tone yo' flab ... Copied to Clipboard!
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htaeD 06/22/19 9:29:07 AM #286: |
Corrik7 posted...
The only correct answer is that Chris and Dowolf cannot be scum together. It is rulebreaking. Good point. But thats a freebie. --- 3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice ... Copied to Clipboard!
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htaeD 06/22/19 9:29:48 AM #287: |
Why do people keep talking like they know a vig exists?
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Corrik7 06/22/19 9:30:22 AM #288: |
I should prolly re-read the end of day 1 since I just poutposted the entire time and didn't read anything really during the sequence.
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DoomTheGyarados 06/22/19 9:30:37 AM #289: |
I mean if vig doesn't exist mafia redirector is a lot less fun for scum.
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5tarscream 06/22/19 9:30:54 AM #290: |
Red
corrik Mzero I hesitate to give a 4th because those 3 seem much stronger than any other. I would absolutely buy Corrik and red bussing MZero to either save red or at the very least buy him an extra day. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoomTheGyarados 06/22/19 9:32:08 AM #291: |
5tarscream posted...
Red Probably too much connective tissue there. I understand all of these reads but corrik tting himself to two buddies in differentvwsta start of day 2 would be an odd choice. No? --- Sir Chris ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoomTheGyarados 06/22/19 9:32:50 AM #292: |
Am I allowed to edit to fix typos in the rules my phone self does not proof read.
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pezloco 06/22/19 9:33:07 AM #293: |
DoomTheGyarados posted...
Pez, you are expecting a bit too much skill out of the Sultan slot. He isn't top tier, he is trying his best and he has multiple data points pointing to town. But especially how Luis went hard on him. I tend to ignore scum interactions on players until more data comes in, there's just so much noise and WIFOM on the data. So at the moment Luis' attack on him means little to me. I don't feel good about him, but I recognize that my mental state last night was not top form. And this morning I've spent 2 of the 3 hours I've been awake dealing with two screaming kids. Combining my mental state with how almost no one reads the same, I'm dropping it for now. I still think he's more likely scum than not. But unless something changes it's not beneficial to continue pushing him. Maybe if I get a chance to nap this afternoon I'll be able to have a clearer head about it tonight after my boys go to sleep. Speaking of, my kids won't stop picking on each other. I'm going to take a mental health day from the game. What I mean by this is that it seems like my kids need a lot of attention today and also I have tutoring and church both today. I will try to check back in around 10-11 ET after my kids are asleep and I've had an hour or two of quiet in the house. I really don't trust my reasoning until then. I'm going to try to finish catching up on what's been posted right now, so there might be one or two more posts before I disappear. --- I'm the Pez and I'm AWESOME ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik7 06/22/19 9:33:52 AM #294: |
5tarscream posted...
Red Makes zero sense. Scum is down a re-director off the bat. Scum isn't trying to buy time. They are trying to win. Chris shooting the re-director is possible as scum. But, scum surely isn't trying to bus to buy time day 2 when down in the hole. They struck out on hitting power and can't stop power. (Most likely). Def no go. And what could they possibly need an extra day for. It isn't day 1. This post is extremely illogical. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Kingdom Hearts 3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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5tarscream 06/22/19 9:34:00 AM #295: |
I dont think Cam and Corrik arent aligned because not even Corrik would be this rude to a teammate just to throw of the scent.
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DoomTheGyarados 06/22/19 9:34:13 AM #296: |
Ok well mafia interactions are amazing ways to start looking at the game so maybe you ought to look into that.
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htaeD 06/22/19 9:34:36 AM #297: |
3. You are forbidden from talking to another player about the game outside the topic, unless you have a special board, or permission from the host to do so. You are forbidden from posting in the topic during the night phase. You are forbidden from editing or deleting posts. This includes players who have been eliminated from the game, and I would appreciate if spectators would do the same. I wouldnt risk it without asking Han first. --- 3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoomTheGyarados 06/22/19 9:35:33 AM #298: |
5tarscream posted...
I dont think Cam and Corrik arent aligned because not even Corrik would be this rude to a teammate just to throw of the scent. Yes he would. But cam is lock town already so fair --- Sir Chris ... Copied to Clipboard!
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5tarscream 06/22/19 9:36:49 AM #299: |
Maybe reds role is better than mzeros to scum?
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Tom Bombadil 06/22/19 9:38:28 AM #300: |
htaeD posted...
they thought Tom softclaimed a scan? I will offer that I rarely feel the need to scan pez --- https://imgtc.com/i/uWMMlnN.png Tone yo' flab ... Copied to Clipboard!
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