Board 8 > English Literature Mafia Topic 9: The Chapters are not Named

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Lolo_Guru posted...

Lea3Lea posted...

Hi Lolo, do you still think Red shouldn't be lynched?

Nah, I'm not standing in the way of a red lynch. Still not going to vote him, though.

...What changed, then?

Votals (as of post 1)
(8) Red: 5tar, Lopen, Lea, Chris, Ben, (pez), Tom, pez, Hb
(2) SBell: (Chris), MZero, (Lopen), puns
(2) Corrik: dowolf, (Lea), (Ben), (Chris), Sultan
(1) Pez: Ulti, (Lea)
(1) Tom: Cam
(1) MZero: Corrik
(0) Chris: (Corrik)
(0) Lopen: (Lea), (Ulti)
(0) 5tar: (Ulti)

With 19 players alive, it takes 10 votes to reach a majority. Day will end on Sunday, June 23th at 9PM EDT or if majority is reached ahead of time.

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Is that all so he'll claim or did he have a damning post?
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I think that depends on who is voting him.
(and if I were voting him, it'd be a little of both columns, but mostly A)
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Lea3Lea posted...

Lolo_Guru posted...

Lea3Lea posted...

Hi Lolo, do you still think Red shouldn't be lynched?

Nah, I'm not standing in the way of a red lynch. Still not going to vote him, though.

...What changed, then?

Chris's "trap" happened.

Lopen posted...

Lolo you say you won't stand in the way but... is it more of a "he doesn't need more pressure" or a "I don't suspect him enough to vote him" thing.

If it came down to a multiple train lynch end of day, how many other players would you choose to lynch over red? Are there players who you'd lynch red over in a two train scenario?

It doesn't need pressure right now, for sure.
Really depends on what red does with the day. Now, I'm probably the last one who should be citing activity, but it makes a difference!
I can say with certainty that at this point I'd vote red over myself, at the very least! But for a more general thing, the answer is yes; there are players I'd vote over red, and the reverse is also true.

Why don't you give me a more concrete scenario than just a multi-train day end?
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I dunno. Could you give me a few you'd vote over red currently and a few you'd vote red over currently? It's a fancy way to say top X scum and town if you prefer. Also give me an idea of whether there are more in the "vote over Red" list than the "vote Red over" list
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Lolo do you have any other remarks about me based on my play in this game?

Your historical factoid seemed to have no bite whatsoever.

UltimaterializerX posted...

turbopuns3 posted...

Lolo do you have any other remarks about me based on my play in this game?

Your historical factoid seemed to have no bite whatsoever.

You jumping into the top tier player list and having a bunch of people with town reads on you always helps with that :D

Not really, not at this time. Nor will I be laying a vote this second. Haven't even iso'd you yet.
I went back and reread Scare's posts, as the thing people never do is see what confirmed town was after and why.
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Tag
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Lolo I would like an answer to that question as soon as you've done enough research on the game to feel comfortable giving it
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Tom Bombadil posted...

UltimaterializerX posted...

Tom... are the only people who have mentioned SK for literally zero reason

Citation needed pretty confident I've only mentioned it in response to pez or people pressing him on it or whoever it was earlier this morning I joked at (puns?)

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None of which is"zero reason", is my point. I'm not really worried about sk or lack thereof yet

It WAS puns btw
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Spoilers scare called me scum with poor reasoning

Pretty sure he came around on me just didn't explicitly state it. He stopped pursuing me and even joked by quoting me saying the words "I am mafia" out of context just saying "gottem"

Anyway as much as I'd like fight without claiming i am not high on time, town watcher(miss marple). There was one person that targetted Chris last night and i am not about to give that name out.

Huh. Not guaranteed town by any means, scum watcher exists, etc, but good enough for now.

##Unvote

##Vote: MZero

Oh
I cant say I expected that...

Anyone know if that flavor checks out?

Why did you target Chris? (dumb question I know, but humor me)
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I was also about to say what is the point of scumwatcher, but then I remembered how useful one was in the past.
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If the doctor mysteriously dies tonight, I suppose we'd find out

What I take from that is that if Red is scum watcher, the doctor will turn up dead tomorrow. YOUR MOVE SCUM.

##Unvote
##Vote: Mzero
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htaeD posted...

Why did you target Chris? (dumb question I know, but humor me)

There really isn't much of an explanation i could actually give you for this. It was kind of the obvious option and I didn't really have to think hard on it.

classic ninja'd
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Leafeon13N posted...

htaeD posted...

Why did you target Chris? (dumb question I know, but humor me)

There really isn't much of an explanation i could actually give you for this. It was kind of the obvious option and I didn't really have to think hard on it.

A prolonged explanation I would have found more suspect, so good on that account at least.
Did you consider dowolf being targeted though?
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On mobile but red resolves easily enough.
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The more I read of Luis, the more it just seems like Cam is town.
I dont think scumCam would purposely add Luis to a list of players he doesnt remember much of when Luis clearly talked to him before.
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htaeD posted...

Did you consider dowolf being targeted though?

Dowolf is already power sapped, i didn't consider much that scum would have reason to target him on n1.

True enough
(watch as dowolf reveals he is like a crazy day jack or something)
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htaeD posted...

True enough
(watch as dowolf reveals he is like a crazy day jack or something)

The Conch Demands Blood: Death
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(this doesn't actually do anything don't worry)

but yeah let's get off of red and get onto corrik now?
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Not buying it. No way is there only one kill on scare with Chris being watched and targeted by just one person.
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i'm not really buying it either, but at this point d2, I'm hard-pressed to argue for lynching the only claimed scanner we have.
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dowolf posted...

(this doesn't actually do anything don't worry)

I am more disappointed than anything, lol.
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I'm fine with it. Belief in him as a scanner positions him to force a mislynch later when he just happens to watch someone who made a kill. Really strong scum claim to cut losses. Too conveniently strong. I'd be more inclined to believe vanilla.

Feel like watcher is a rare role and hard to balance, too, so it's just not seen very often.
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##Unvote
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It resolves itself when he forces a mislynch later, yes.
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Has scum ever had a non-strongman/assassin type for a second kill?
If they did have one, I cant ever see them using it on Scare.
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I mean, in all likelihood if Red is telling the truth, Chris was just visited by the doc
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anyway I finished my own ISO
Cams cliffnotes helped, but I disagree at some points. I dont think Luis threw shade at Mzero, he just sat on the fence and gave himself an excuse to not vote Mzero.
Also Lopen didnt sound as bad to me, since he did question Luis initially.

It wasnt that useful, since a lot of players never even mentioned Luis (which I care more about than players Luis mentioned)
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But I can input that data into a PoE machine (my brain)

PoE
Like a bit more due to various Luis interactions:
Lea
Chris
Dowolf
Cam
Puns

Watcher claim bonus:
Red

Already liked before today:
5tar

mixed feelings about:
Lopen
Ben (Luis voted him of all people in topic6, but there was no fire behind it)
Pez/Tom (dont think both are scum at the same

That leaves these people who I feel nothing to bad about (in no particular order besides the alphabet):
Corrik
HB (honestly what has he done lately)
Lolo (maybe he needs a replace?)
Mzero/Sultan (could be bussing, could be trying to attack a weak player. He did forget about suspecting Sultan later thoug... and Mzero as well.)
Sbell
Ulti (has been kinda under the radar)
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That's the implication he's feeding us

The problem is that implies that we had one kill last night, on scare, who the scum would be ridiculous to kill, while the doc was protecting Chris. It's too perfect a story. Gives us no information and seeds him as a power role to force a mislynch later.
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Of course HB starts posting again in the middle of typing my list, but still..
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Lopen posted...

That's the implication he's feeding us

The problem is that implies that we had one kill last night, on scare, who the scum would be ridiculous to kill, while the doc was protecting Chris. It's too perfect a story. Gives us no information and seeds him as a power role to force a mislynch later.

It would be suspect as hell if red even got another scan off to begin with.
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Scum didn't kill him because doc was still at large obv
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Could still be a poisoner on the scum team.

Roald Dahls Landlady anyone?
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Town Watcher?

Hmmm.

Anyone trying to lynch the town watcher today is ridiculous.
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town watcher claim*
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Obellisk posted...

Could still be a poisoner on the scum team.

Roald Dahls Landlady anyone?

Poisoner was mentioned before yeah.
But they would still be seen targeting Chris.
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