Board 8 > English Literature Mafia Topic 9: The Chapters are not Named

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Would a Doc stop a Poisoner, theoretically?
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Hbthebattle posted...

Would a Doc stop a Poisoner, theoretically?

Depends on host. Not usually.
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htaeD posted...

Obellisk posted...

Could still be a poisoner on the scum team.

Roald Dahls Landlady anyone?

Poisoner was mentioned before yeah.
But they would still be seen targeting Chris.

Well yeah. One person was seen targeting Chris, according to red.

Speaking of, what if red dies tonight. Is red going to his grave with his scan for fear of outing the doc? I don't want to out a doc as much as the next guy but if both red and Chris are dead in the morning then we are so much worse off.
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Obellisk posted...

htaeD posted...

Obellisk posted...

Could still be a poisoner on the scum team.

Roald Dahls Landlady anyone?

Poisoner was mentioned before yeah.
But they would still be seen targeting Chris.

Well yeah. One person was seen targeting Chris, according to red.

Speaking of, what if red dies tonight. Is red going to his grave with his scan for fear of outing the doc? I don't want to out a doc as much as the next guy but if both red and Chris are dead in the morning then we are so much worse off.

Why would red die tonight if they supposedly couldn't kill chris last night?
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I thought there was a specific poison doctor for that.
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Corrik, if they have a poisoner then two would die night 2.
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Obellisk posted...

Corrik, if they have a poisoner then two would die night 2.

And? If they couldn't kill Chris directly last night, they can't kill red directly night 2 either. And, you are assuming a poison and you seem to also be assuming a multiple use poisoner.
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Chances of a doctor not on Chris last night are probably less than 3% unless the doctor is zany.
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They wouldnt know to target red until today tho.
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Corrik7 posted...

Obellisk posted...

Corrik, if they have a poisoner then two would die night 2.

And? If they couldn't kill Chris directly last night, they can't kill red directly night 2 either. And, you are assuming a poison and you seem to also be assuming a multiple use poisoner.

No. I am assuming a single use poisoner. Used night one on Chris.
I am assuming a normal mafia kill on scare night one.
I am assuming a normal kill on red night 2.
And Chris succumbing to his affliction night 2.
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Corrik7 posted...

Chances of a doctor not on Chris last night are probably less than 3% unless the doctor is zany.

So where did the scum kill go then? Do you actually think they killed Scare?
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Chances of a doctor not on Chris last night are probably less than 3% unless the doctor is zany. Regardless if Chris is town or not. Unless Chris specifically is the doctor. Which is not very likely.
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Also poisons get blocked by docsaves anyway, dont they?
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Lopen posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Chances of a doctor not on Chris last night are probably less than 3% unless the doctor is zany.

So where did the scum kill go then? Do you actually think they killed Scare?

Who would want a Town Scare dead?
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Random thought occured to me that we could have a busdriver.
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htaeD posted...

Random thought occured to me that we could have a busdriver.

Yeah that's just what we fucking need right now. A bus driver on top of a scum redirector?
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Lopen posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Chances of a doctor not on Chris last night are probably less than 3% unless the doctor is zany.

So where did the scum kill go then? Do you actually think they killed Scare?

No. Scare just died at night because he wasn't killed by scum and no one else has claimed it.

Is this serious?

There are three scenarios here.
1. Chris was targeted by a doctor solely.
2. Chris was targeted by a ninja and a doctor.
3. Red is scum and lying
4. Chris is doctor and was targeted by a poisoner.

Likely in that order as well.
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Corrik7 posted...

Is this serious?

There are three scenarios here.
1. Chris was targeted by a doctor solely.
2. Chris was targeted by a ninja and a doctor.
3. Red is scum and lying
4. Chris is doctor and was targeted by a poisoner.

Likely in that order as well.

So four scenarios?
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Scare does not seem like a likely scum kill by any stretch. You had at minimum dowolf and Chris as basically town confirmed and you had a lot of people suspecting Scare.
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Lopen posted...

Scare does not seem like a likely scum kill by any stretch. You had at minimum dowolf and Chris as basically town confirmed and you had a lot of people suspecting Scare.

Neither is confirmed town.
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You don't confirm them. Most people who aren't being wacky Corrik would, which basically makes them impossible to lynch for scum
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What if red and Chris are both scum. And the game is large enough to leave a practically confirmed player alive for another day. Shoot Scare. You know he's town and he came in wearing his big boy pants.
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Lea3Lea posted...

If the doctor mysteriously dies tonight, I suppose we'd find out

benjamin3740 posted...

What I take from that is that if Red is scum watcher, the doctor will turn up dead tomorrow

There's something to both of these folks immediately jumping to thinking about doc, but I'm not sure what. Doc+watcher is a pretty strong combo if they can find each other so iirc back in my day that combo was soft banned.
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Lopen posted...

You don't confirm them. Most people who aren't being wacky Corrik would, which basically makes them impossible to lynch for scum

Person who was likeliest the scum kill hence dead flipped town with no one else claiming the kill said they weren't confirmed town also. That person was scare.

Anyone trying to shove it down your throat these people are confirmed town is suspect. They are just confirmed not BOTH scum.
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Anyone speaking of scum watcher scenarios is insinuating they know the result red claimed is true.
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Obellisk posted...

Speaking of, what if red dies tonight. Is red going to his grave with his scan for fear of outing the doc?

.... Yes?
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sorry for popping in and out; am at family event.

but the bus driver talk made something come to mind:

hey Red: were you told that one person targeted Chris, or that you saw one person visit the target?
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Scare was only the likely scum kill in that we can't account for the source. He seems like a poor scum kill if you paid attention to his reception from town yesterday.

If you think in terms of results scare makes sense as the scum kill. If you think in terms of where night actions are likely going he does not.
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Tom Bombadil posted...

Obellisk posted...

Speaking of, what if red dies tonight. Is red going to his grave with his scan for fear of outing the doc?

.... Yes?

When you don't quote the full thought you sure can respond that way.

Don't make it out like something it's not.
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That's sorta scummy Tom.
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Lopen posted...

Scare was only the likely scum kill in that we can't account for the source. He seems like a poor scum kill if you paid attention to his reception from town yesterday.

If you think in terms of results scare makes sense as the scum kill. If you think in terms of where night actions are likely going he does not.

But it's not a ridiculous thought, especially if people you think make more sense to be the kill are actually the people doing the killing.
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##unvote: red
##vote: pez

Tempted to move sbell up to the top of the list for dat fish but might as well get myself actually on the record

This is still not roommate Powers before you ask
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Tom Bombadil posted...

##unvote: red
##vote: pez

Tempted to move sbell up to the top of the list for dat fish but might as well get myself actually on the record

This is still not roommate Powers before you ask

Thats not a fish. It's a discussion point. I am not speaking to red. I'm speaking to the game.
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Obellisk posted...

htaeD posted...

Obellisk posted...

Could still be a poisoner on the scum team.

Roald Dahls Landlady anyone?

Poisoner was mentioned before yeah.
But they would still be seen targeting Chris.

Well yeah. One person was seen targeting Chris, according to red.

Speaking of, what if red dies tonight. Is red going to his grave with his scan for fear of outing the doc? I don't want to out a doc as much as the next guy but if both red and Chris are dead in the morning then we are so much worse off.

Okay fine here's the whole post if you want. My response is still "stop trying to fish."
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What would you like us to discuss. That it sucks if watcher red dies? I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish if not pushing for red to reveal what is reasonable likely to be a protection
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Hey Tom, off subject a bit. Why was your vote on red again?
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so like of all possible things red could have claimed that is pretty close to the most convenient thing for scum he could have possibly claimed

I guess Tom forgot why.
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I'm inclined to think some of town is just capable of critical thinking in the face in "OH NO NOT THE POWER ROLE" and realizes that claim is clearly nonsense
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Obellisk posted...

htaeD posted...

Random thought occured to me that we could have a busdriver.

Yeah that's just what we fucking need right now. A bus driver on top of a scum redirector?

Bus Driver:
Swap Players A and B

Redirector:
Redirect Lopen posted...

Scare was only the likely scum kill in that we can't account for the source. He seems like a poor scum kill if you paid attention to his reception from town yesterday.

If you think in terms of results scare makes sense as the scum kill. If you think in terms of where night actions are likely going he does not.

Lopen, I had you as a patsy but this concerns me

Who is Town in this post?

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Votals (as of post 1)
(8) Red: 5tar, Lopen, Lea, Chris, Ben, (pez), Tom, pez, Hb
(2) SBell: (Chris), MZero, (Lopen), puns
(2) Corrik: dowolf, (Lea), (Ben), (Chris), Sultan
(1) Pez: Ulti, (Lea)
(1) Tom: Cam
(1) MZero: Corrik
(0) Chris: (Corrik)
(0) Lopen: (Lea), (Ulti)
(0) 5tar: (Ulti)

With 19 players alive, it takes 10 votes to reach a majority. Day will end on Sunday, June 23th at 9PM EDT or if majority is reached ahead of time.

lol, red was 1 vote away from early hammer

Camarija posted...

Obellisk posted...

htaeD posted...

Random thought occured to me that we could have a busdriver.

Yeah that's just what we fucking need right now. A bus driver on top of a scum redirector?

Bus Driver:
Swap Players A and B

Redirector:
Redirect Lopen posted...

Scare was only the likely scum kill in that we can't account for the source. He seems like a poor scum kill if you paid attention to his reception from town yesterday.

If you think in terms of results scare makes sense as the scum kill. If you think in terms of where night actions are likely going he does not.

Lopen, I had you as a patsy but this concerns me

Who is Town in this post?

Thats a great catch.
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Scare was one of the people with lynch trains towards end of day it dissipated before topic 7 begin but (1) Scare: (5tar), (puns), (Lea), dowolf existed.

He had very few people defending him. He also was a member of the initial dowolf chaos wagon which would possibly have subjected him to scrutiny today.

Basically eaed put him in the hole and there's very little reason scum would prioritize killing him I think. At least not night 1.
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The votes on Corrik, Pez, Tom, and 5star are probably the most spicy votes today

If Red is Mafia, I kind of expect him being sacrificed here

I had Ulti as an under the radar monster, but his prodding into unknown corners looks good for him

And yeah @Lopen I still want to know who you meant by:

"if you paid attention to his reception from town yesterday."

Obellisk posted...

Hey Tom, off subject a bit. Why was your vote on red again?

Mostly Chris committing to him
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I meant "the town" as in the playerbase at laege not any specific who. I wasn't tracking specific scare reactions much but his reception did not come off as terribly positive to me,
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ben was pretty sure scare was town fwiw