Board 8 > English Literature Mafia Topic 11: Rising Action

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Plus in the slim chance 5tar is scum and a red Gambit, he has to basically say he chose a scum to scan and them lie together tieing themselves together because he doesn't know the town's flavor unless he is a scum flavor cop.
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I mean, first we need to find out if 5tar even scans direct roles or just origins- he never actually called Res Nyarlotep, just from Lovecraft
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Corrik7 posted...

pezloco posted...

Corrik7 posted...

5tar, zero reason for you to not reveal your scan today. Have you done so?

Shouldn't he say who he scanned and make them claim first? Or at least try to same time it? Why would 5tar go first?

There is a flavor split. If he scanned scum, he scanned scum. Doesn't matter. He either confirms someone town or scum.

No one is gonna lie if he scanned them.

I would rather he reveal it first actually because if it is someone that is town they can confirm he is actually a flavor scanner and not just a red Gambit.

So same time it. Did I miss something? 5tar doesn't get the character name does he? I thought he just said Red is lovecraft related?
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Corrik7 posted...

He would have their real flavor. What is there to lie about.

they could try to counter since there's already a weird amount of distrust in 5tar?

actually with that logic what is stopping us from just mass flavor claiming before he reveals
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If I was 5tar, I would have scanned Lea and see if theres any truth in her claim.
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Hbthebattle posted...

Corrin have you noticed how every flipped scum has been semi-antagonistic and none of the dead town are so

That's exactly what Corrik means by flavor split I think.
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also in before 5tar is like a one-shot or a jack or something lol
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Hbthebattle posted...

I mean, first we need to find out if 5tar even scans direct roles or just origins- he never actually called Res Nyarlotep, just from Lovecraft

I guess that is true, but again scum has no reason to lie about their flavor if he is a weak flavor cop. They tell the truth and try to justify it. More concerned with him proving he is actual a flavor scanner or tieing himself to a scummate.
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I mean, I think he is town and it is probably extraneous, but it removes all doubt about his role being legit and not a scum ploy.

Doesn't mean he can't be a scum flavor cop, but he would have to confirm a town as town then if he is a scum flavor cop or again tie himself to a teammate. And we have more scanners than just him.
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Tom Bombadil posted...

actually with that logic what is stopping us from just mass flavor claiming before he reveals

Common sense. That's what

Scanning Lea is a waste of time because that claim is obviously fake. It's just whether it's town fake or scum fake.
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Unless 5tar scanned town and doesn't need them to claim. He can instead wait to see who is actively trying to lynch someone I know is town and let them expose themself.
Also,I am at work but it's photo day so I have a little more time than I usually would during the morning. I'll be in and out though not a constant presence.

Puns who do you think is scum the most?
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Corrik7 posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

I mean, first we need to find out if 5tar even scans direct roles or just origins- he never actually called Res Nyarlotep, just from Lovecraft

I guess that is true, but again scum has no reason to lie about their flavor if he is a weak flavor cop. They tell the truth and try to justify it. More concerned with him proving he is actual a flavor scanner or tieing himself to a scummate.

There is an easy solution.

Step 1, 5tar reveals who he has info on.
Step 2, we work out a time for a same time
Step 3, we do the same time.

Let's cover our bases. No need to rush anything here.
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turbopuns3 posted...

Tom Bombadil posted...

actually with that logic what is stopping us from just mass flavor claiming before he reveals

Common sense. That's what

what am I missing

we get all the benefits of a 5tar sametime plus the other scum have to gamble on whether or not they got scanned
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5tarscream posted...

Unless 5tar scanned town and doesn't need them to claim. He can instead wait to see who is actively trying to lynch someone I know is town and let them expose themself.
Also,I am at work but it's photo day so I have a little more time than I usually would during the morning. I'll be in and out though not a constant presence.

You can tell based on the flavor alone?
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5tarscream posted...

Unless 5tar scanned town and doesn't need them to claim. He can instead wait to see who is actively trying to lynch someone I know is town and let them expose themself.
Also,I am at work but it's photo day so I have a little more time than I usually would during the morning. I'll be in and out though not a constant presence.

There is zero reason to not reveal your scan and any arguing not to is pointing to scum again.

We wanna know why you chose who you did and it should be a scumspect who u can clear as town.
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Please help

Flavor Split :: DEFINITION = ??

Mafia = Evil Flavor

Town = Justice Flavor

??

Lopen posted...

It's just whether it's town fake or scum fake.

I've seen town lie before but I am not yet used to this meta where it's *common*
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benjamin3740 posted...

5tarscream posted...

Unless 5tar scanned town and doesn't need them to claim. He can instead wait to see who is actively trying to lynch someone I know is town and let them expose themself.
Also,I am at work but it's photo day so I have a little more time than I usually would during the morning. I'll be in and out though not a constant presence.

You can tell based on the flavor alone?

Actually, dont even answer that.

He doesnt want a same time with his target.
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benjamin3740 posted...

Puns who do you think is scum the most?

My posts today indicate the answer

(SBell)

I scanned based on yesterdays votes and their opinions on red.

Tom Bombadil posted...

I've seen town lie before but I am not yet used to this meta where it's *common*

1. Do you think she is telling the truth about her flavor?
2. Do you think if she's lying she's a lot more likely to be scum?
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When do you want to tell us whom you scanned, if not now, 5tar? Halfway through the day? 3/4ths through the day?
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5tarscream posted...

I scanned based on yesterdays votes and their opinions on red.

Oh you're still pretending

Ok cool

5tarscream posted...

I scanned based on yesterdays votes and their opinions on red.

So here's a little flaw in your reasoning. You scanned a person you think could be scum. Your scan reveals they are likely town and not scum. But you plan to put suspicion on people who vote for the person you scanned because you thought they could be scum.

I'm not sure you're setting up a trap or WIFOM. But if you think it's wise to withhold it by all means, I'll just assume I'm missing something.
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Lopen posted...

Tom Bombadil posted...

I've seen town lie before but I am not yet used to this meta where it's *common*

1. Do you think she is telling the truth about her flavor?
2. Do you think if she's lying she's a lot more likely to be scum?

I would think both of those answers are obvious from my vote on her but we can do this again if you want I guess

1. No. Chris straight up caught her in that.
2. Yep.
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turbopuns3 posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Puns who do you think is scum the most?

My posts today indicate the answer

(SBell)

Okay cool.

##Unvote
##Vote: Sbell

You're the only one I can trust.

Well, besides these people

2. UltimaterializerX
3. Lea3Lea
4. Benjamin
6. Camarija
8. 5tarscream
9. Hbthebattle
12. Lopen
14. Corrik
15. Lolo_Guru

But you're the only one I can trust to be smart. Also fairly sure we're at the stage where we can just lynch everyone not on this list and win.
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He probably scanned someone who already gave their flavor.

Someone he suspected a lot.

(he scanned me)
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So more people go after me dammit
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Tom Bombadil posted...

He tried a lot harder last game!

Still got lynched.

I've read up to this point. Will be back.
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anyway we should get that benjamin guy ##ben
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Camarija posted...

Please help

Flavor Split :: DEFINITION = ??

Mafia = Evil Flavor

Town = Justice Flavor

??

Beep

benjamin3740 posted...

He probably scanned someone who already gave their flavor.

Someone he suspected a lot.

(he scanned me)

That might indeed be what I'm missing. Thanks.
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Obellisk posted...

Still got lynched.

so at best you're unmotivated town cool
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Why aren't you pushing harder for her to be lynched based on the second point then? I think it's potentially compelling!

Me I think the audacity to claim Doom to Chris's face smells more of a town move but I'd be interested in why you think it's more likely to be scum.
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Camarija posted...

Camarija posted...

Please help

Flavor Split :: DEFINITION = ??

Mafia = Evil Flavor

Town = Justice Flavor

??

Beep

boop
(I have no idea what you want)
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My flavour is not fake, goddammit. Sorry to offend your literary sensibilities when we literally have a bojack horseman character and the letter g as characters.

##Unvote

##Vote: Sbell

The Mzero lynch is only feeble because I have -5 reputation this game, but sure, I'll compromise. Sbell prolly scum too

Tom Bombadil posted...

Camarija posted...

Camarija posted...

Please help

Flavor Split :: DEFINITION = ??

Mafia = Evil Flavor

Town = Justice Flavor

??

Beep

boop
(I have no idea what you want)

What does flavor split mean?

It's not about literary sensibilities it's about coincidences and not believing in them
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pezloco posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

He probably scanned someone who already gave their flavor.

Someone he suspected a lot.

(he scanned me)

That might indeed be what I'm missing. Thanks.

Tom Bombadil posted...

anyway we should get that benjamin guy ##ben

The mafia team realizing exactly what happened and being relieved
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Lopen posted...

Why aren't you pushing harder for her to be lynched based on the second point then? I think it's potentially compelling!

Me I think the audacity to claim Doom to Chris's face smells more of a town move but I'd be interested in why you think it's more likely to be scum.

It's a pandering move and a desperate one. Maybe less desperate one than it looked like before we had the letter G flip, but still.

I am voting her and the argument has been out there since yesterday with little response and she's not really doing much today what else would you like from me
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Lopen posted...

Why aren't you pushing harder for her to be lynched based on the second point then? I think it's potentially compelling!

Me I think the audacity to claim Doom to Chris's face smells more of a town move but I'd be interested in why you think it's more likely to be scum.

I read it as more of a null. She claimed Doom to Chris' face sure. It's almost certainly a fake claim. But because it's so out there as flavor, why would that be indicative in either direction?

Faking it to Chris' face could be seen as a challenge. But it could also be seen as something funny to do (she's joked about almost everything). From all of her other posts it seems like it's a her thing to do.

Tom, I don't think Doom makes her look scummy. Lopen, I don't think Doom makes her look town.
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Well I thought it was obvious-- I'd like you to explain why you think it makes more sense for scum to claim that? To me it makes a lot less sense for scum to claim that.
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Camarija posted...

Tom Bombadil posted...

Camarija posted...

Camarija posted...

Please help

Flavor Split :: DEFINITION = ??

Mafia = Evil Flavor

Town = Justice Flavor

??

Beep

boop
(I have no idea what you want)

What does flavor split mean?

Who is town and who is mafia. Like 90% of the time the town will be the good guys from whatever the theme is and the scum will be the bad guys. But not always! I remember one game where the scum were all the purple-eyed characters.
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I dont think Mzero and Sbell are BOTH scum. A scum team can only have one lazy guy who doesnt get replaced.
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Tom Bombadil posted...

Camarija posted...

Tom Bombadil posted...

Camarija posted...

Camarija posted...

Please help

Flavor Split :: DEFINITION = ??

Mafia = Evil Flavor

Town = Justice Flavor

??

Beep

boop
(I have no idea what you want)

What does flavor split mean?

Who is town and who is mafia. Like 90% of the time the town will be the good guys from whatever the theme is and the scum will be the bad guys. But not always! I remember one game where the scum were all the purple-eyed characters.

Yes

So 5tarscream saying they are flavor cop, got Red as Cthulu being alignment indicative, it's just wrong

Lopen posted...

Well I thought it was obvious-- I'd like you to explain why you think it makes more sense for scum to claim that? To me it makes a lot less sense for scum to claim that.

He kinda had her over a barrel at that point, or at least was bluffing such. I think the safest way to deal with town Chris as scum is to butter him up, and what dang better way to do that than literally claim Doom the Gyarados if it's on your safelist (which it gives me that vibe) or just completely out of left field (which is probably more likely in actuality)
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And Lolo was managing to play even LESS than both Mzero and Sbell day 1. Dont think he posted at all day 1? Except to say he was reading maybe? Feel he absolutely would have been replaced if he was scum.

Thus town (Now this is a kind of meta I like)
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Tom Bombadil posted...

Doom the Gyarados if it's on your safelist (which it gives me that vibe)

what.
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