Board 8 > English Literature Mafia Topic 13: A Dramatic Turn of Events

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Tom Bombadil posted...

Lea3Lea posted...

1. It is EXTREMELY scummy to complain you're getting lynched for reasons that aren't good enough.

I dunno, I get annoyed when I get lynched for what I perceive are dumb reasons both as town and scum.

I definitely get more annoyed as scum. But I get annoyed in both cases. I'm not concerned about how he's defending himself. I do want to know what people think it means that MZero is more confident in his scum reads this game than last one. Especially the big argument against SBell is similar to the argument against MZero, except SBell also votes.
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Lea3Lea posted...

MZero11 posted...

Lea3Lea posted...

YOUR READS DO NOT MAKE SENSE FROM A TOWN PERSPECTIVE ALL GAME.

wow you can type it in all caps and copy and paste it. good job. still not true but ok

Outstanding rebuttal. Truly top shelf. "not true". No real elaboration on why you can call Corrik and Chris, the best scum players "obvtown" day one. No clarification of why Eaed was your only scum read day one. Nothing on Sbell besides one post where he complained about Chris getting a conch, which is barely a reason at all.

Just "nuh uh".

ok so you're not reading my posts cool
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Votals (as of post 352)
(4) SBell: Puns, MZero, (Ben), (Lea), (Lopen), (Tom), (Corrik), Cam, Corrik
(3) MZero: (Lea), (Ben), (5tar), (Ulti), (Lea), (Ben), (Ulti), (Pez), Ulti, Lea, (Corrik), Ben
(3) Lolo: (Corrik), (Tom), SBell, Tom, Lopen, (Lea)
(1) Lea: (Tom), Hb
(1) Tom: (Lopen), Cam
(1) Cam: (5tar), (Ulti), (SBell), (Tom), Lolo, (Corrik)
(0) Pez: (Ben), (Ulti)
(0) Lopen: (Corrik)
(0) Hb: (Corrik)
(0) Puns: (SBell)
(0) Ben: (Lopen)
(0) Hb: (Lopen)

With 15 players alive, it takes 8 votes to reach a majority. Day will end on Wednesday, June 26th at 9PM EDT or if majority is reached ahead of time.

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Oh it is the classic sbell mislynch, don't you forget that.

I have not misrepresented myself this game. The only thing I'm guilty of is not applying myself to my fullest. Big game, big names, big voices, and in the first 48 hours we hit a ridiculous number of topics. I was not really prepared for that and I even stated in my opening post that I was going to drop out. However that's neither here nor there. I don't want you to feel manipulated.

I am Jim, Huck Finn. Town Vanillager.

Did you know Jim had a magic hairball he got from a cow? I didn't. But apparently it's not real so I'm just trodded down the river on my raft.

I'll try to give you more today but I gave a lot yesterday and I'm very busy at the office today.
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Can I give town points for making me laugh at vanillager

Also while I did call Corrik obvtown, I said Chris was only "probably town"

twisting my posts to make me look scummy tsk tsk

I actually haven't been scum reading Lea but I think she might be scum after all. She has been really manipulating posts to get me lynched all game
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Bed time. Night Tom.

5tarscream posted...

Bed time. Night Tom.

Hey Tom he announced he's going to bed.
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Obellisk posted...

I have not misrepresented myself this game. The only thing I'm guilty of is not applying myself to my fullest. Big game, big names, big voices, and in the first 48 hours we hit a ridiculous number of topics. I was not really prepared for that and I even stated in my opening post that I was going to drop out. However that's neither here nor there. I don't want you to feel manipulated.

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I'll try to give you more today but I gave a lot yesterday and I'm very busy at the office today.

See this is giving me pause. You've been so intentional about your play this game. Like you get called out and are like yup so what? So, you're intentionally not applying yourself? That doesn't sound quite right. I read your play the whole game as scum hiding in plain sight, or town trying to screw with scum by implying town power and letting them figure out if you really were or not. That doesn't sound like not applying yourself.
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okay 5tar is LOCK TOWN then (kidding, he's still 95% because everybody likes when I uses percentages and also when they are less than 100)

Lopen posted...

Mafia doesn't shoot confirmed with no ability early. SK, particularly when town is ahead, cares more about those because they need to have anyone but them be the lynch target. Mafia would sooner be shooting at random targets that haven't claimed and are generally trusted in hopes that they hit a power role, or trying to play chicken with the doctor and shoot Chris/5tar.

That's not how I would've played it as scum but I can see your argument.

Obellisk posted...

I gave a lot yesterday

oh

Am feeling better about the mzero lynch the longer he goes without really defending but would still prefer Lolo or Sbell. Maybe I'll take him over Lea though!!
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pezloco posted...

Obellisk posted...

I have not misrepresented myself this game. The only thing I'm guilty of is not applying myself to my fullest. Big game, big names, big voices, and in the first 48 hours we hit a ridiculous number of topics. I was not really prepared for that and I even stated in my opening post that I was going to drop out. However that's neither here nor there. I don't want you to feel manipulated.

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I'll try to give you more today but I gave a lot yesterday and I'm very busy at the office today.

See this is giving me pause. You've been so intentional about your play this game. Like you get called out and are like yup so what? So, you're intentionally not applying yourself? That doesn't sound quite right. I read your play the whole game as scum hiding in plain sight, or town trying to screw with scum by implying town power and letting them figure out if you really were or not. That doesn't sound like not applying yourself.

I didn't read most of day one and was lost day two. Relying on others to fill me in with limited reading. I didn't apply myself and as such tried to make myself a shoot able target.

You want my full claim, you got it.

I'm not dead yet, sorry I wasn't as good a vsnillager as scare and Chris eating them nks like bosses.
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Now if you are town I ask you to please unvote me so we can see all the scum looking to still pull out that mislynch.

Thanks.
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... Guess we still got 4 scums alive, guys.
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TRAPPED

caps
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Wow, Sbell claimed because a lot of people wanted him too, what a pro-town attitude. Very commendable.

MZero11 posted...

Also while I did call Corrik obvtown, I said Chris was only "probably town"

twisting my posts to make me look scummy tsk tsk

I actually haven't been scum reading Lea but I think she might be scum after all. She has been really manipulating posts to get me lynched all game

Alright but here's the thing, calling Chris "probably town" is still an unsubstantiated belief. People had Chris Fear after he votestuff lynched a mafia redirector day one but you are totally capable of calling him probably town day one for reasons that don't exist, or possibly that I forgot.

False alarm. My ability only works on the night the shot is actually made. Not literally. So I assumed correctly.

##unvote
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##vote: Sbell

Don't want you to think I purposely tried to derail your lynch, great one.
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Ah
Doesnt exactly clear anyone either, but it does put the idea of wanting to lynch the claimed BG out of my head.
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I think Sbell is town for what it is worth, and I am super, super wary of Lopen. He seems to know their is a SK when there has been nothing to show for it.

There is 1 town scenario for this. Which is why I am just keeping an eye on him.
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htaeD posted...

Ah
Doesnt exactly clear anyone either, but it does put the idea of wanting to lynch the claimed BG out of my head.

I'll just outright say this.

Lopen is strongly implying he is protection. He thinks there is a SK because he is basically saying he feels he blocked a nightkill somehow.

He doubts Lolo because it's too much protection.

That is the only town scenario that makes sense for him.
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And you are sticking to your claim as well?
Then where are you him VS Lolo yourself?

(I would pick Lopen in a heartbeat)
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also sbell is town according you
but you vote him
????
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htaeD posted...

also sbell is town according you
but you vote him
????

It has been decreed from a higher power unfortunately.
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Hey someone remind me why no one thinks Puns is scum, I forget

Corrik7 posted...

False alarm. My ability only works on the night the shot is actually made. Not literally. So I assumed correctly.

##unvote

dang

still kinda like a lololynch though but also tempted to hop to sbell or maybe miz
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htaeD posted...

And you are sticking to your claim as well?
Then where are you him VS Lolo yourself?

(I would pick Lopen in a heartbeat)

My claim is absolute.

I am not convinced Lolo doesn't make sense with me. He can absorb a kill. I can move a kill.

If Lopen is lightning rod, then bodyguard is maybe very redundant.
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Lea3Lea posted...

Hey someone remind me why no one thinks Puns is scum, I forget

Cuz he "claimed miller".

No other reason exists.
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^ which is why I asked puns if he isn't concerned that camarija completely has him town cleared. He seemed to be running with it happily tho.
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Here's the problem Corrik.

I was going to follow your lynch choice since I truly don't know who makes more sense to kill.

3 Pottereros?
SenorZero
Puns just for the hell of it.

But if you land on me, we'll I just got no where to go. We already know you can't vote for yourself, Lopen tried on day one.
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Obellisk posted...

Here's the problem Corrik.

I was going to follow your lynch choice since I truly don't know who makes more sense to kill.

3 Pottereros?
SenorZero
Puns just for the hell of it.

But if you land on me, we'll I just got no where to go. We already know you can't vote for yourself, Lopen tried on day one.

I don't think ur scum mostly cuz your play is so emo it is null. I have nothing on you besides playing so emo.
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Corrik7 posted...

Obellisk posted...

Here's the problem Corrik.

I was going to follow your lynch choice since I truly don't know who makes more sense to kill.

3 Pottereros?
SenorZero
Puns just for the hell of it.

But if you land on me, we'll I just got no where to go. We already know you can't vote for yourself, Lopen tried on day one.

I don't think ur scum mostly cuz your play is so emo it is null. I have nothing on you besides playing so emo.

But I literally have no emotions towards this game.

Harumph
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I'm still hung up on mzero not claiming because he's not satisfied with the reason behind his lynch. He "doesn't want to reward poor play."

And yet, if he's town, why would there ever be a "good" case? It's not like anything he'd do would be a scum action. Ah well, he's made his choice. When you play the game of claim or die, you claim or you die

I suspect he feels no fear because in mediocre apathy like today a scum team can tip the scales

How does this make you feel sbell?

##Vote: Sbell
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Lea3Lea posted...

And yet, if he's town, why would there ever be a "good" case? It's not like anything he'd do would be a scum action. Ah well, he's made his choice. When you play the game of claim or die, you claim or you die

There can be a good case because no one knows I am town except me, and town can play poorly/anti-town
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MZero11 posted...

Obellisk posted...

Oh right, I can't be upset that you took a chance instead of killing a fake claim designed to pander to you? Thats level headed.

Lets try again,

Oh great and powerful chris, thank you for killing a scum, which you had no idea was actually scum unless you are scum yourself. Luck will forever be on your side.

what

The entire game of mafia is based on reads and not knowing 100%

You're really reaching here. The dude killed scum power. And also you can't know "it was a fake claimed pandered to him" unless you are scum yourself!

##Vote: SBell

Good bye salty scum

Fake anger is fake. I literally said the only way he would know he was scum was if he was scum. I get attacked by Mzero because mafia is about not knowing things 100%. At the time of my post I still believed Chris could be "in on it". This is classic, lets misconstrue whats being said and use it against the speaker.

##unvote
##vote: Mzero

I started ISO yesterday, and only had Scum Points for MZero, still haven't found a town point yet. I laughed when i couldn't find a single post of MZero's in Topic 6.
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htaeD posted...

How does this make you feel sbell?

##Vote: Sbell

i'm apathetic to the votes at this point, I know what i deserve, i'll attempt to set right what once went wrong.
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sbell: I will be honest and say that honest sounding attitude is almost winning me over.
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oh look, i should have kept reading, Ben agrees with me.
benjamin3740 posted...

Such fake. Would kill on any given Saturday

So according to MZero:
Flavor meta makes you scummy, so we should all blindly agree that 3 HP claims make perfect sense.
Scum like to look like the Parents of the game by pushing "dont be stupid" talk. Its the informed superiority that they hold over town, sometimes it can't help but leak out.

MZero11 posted...

Scare getting shot N1 as vanilla two games in a row is pretty clutch btw

And gloating. The kind of thing he should keep to the scum board.

MZero11 posted...

I think everyone suspecting Chris today is smelly

not that Chris can't be scum but...

This post is so helpful. You stink if you think X, although X is possible...

On to topic 8. he has like all of 3 posts and its literally nothing except "I dont think we should lynch dowolf"

Onto topic 9:
MZero11 posted...

SBell still scum imo but red probably is too. I trust 5tar here

SBell vote looks like scum resigned to the fact that red is toast. Throwing shade on likely town puns in the process. I'm fine with the red lynch here but hope SBell gets his due attention tomorrow

Also I've flipped on my Corrik read. He's probably scum because his attack on me is really lazy. Corrik is really good at reading me as Town and I think he's just looking for an easy mislynch. His attack on me doesn't make a lot of sense and I expect better from him tbh

One post in Topic 9 to make sure it shows he wants to lynch red but also make sure its clear that we should really be lynching me.

Four total topics of MZero content. And now i have to ask everyone trying to lynch me. Why aren't we lynching MZero?
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Obellisk posted...

I laughed when i couldn't find a single post of MZero's in Topic 6.

I mean that entire topic happened between 5am and 9am my time and I usually wake up at 10

Which shouldn't be surprsing considering it's currently 2am and I'm still awake

Also wow you guys filled an entire topic in 4 hours jeez no wonder I barely posted day 1 >_>
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MZero11 posted...

Obellisk posted...

I laughed when i couldn't find a single post of MZero's in Topic 6.

I mean that entire topic happened between 5am and 9am my time and I usually wake up at 10

Which shouldn't be surprsing considering it's currently 2am and I'm still awake

Also wow you guys filled an entire topic in 4 hours jeez no wonder I barely posted day 1 >_>

hush little one, i wasn't commenting on the timing, i know when you is wake and when you is sleep.
Pretty sure you can find topics in this game where i didn't post either.
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Also, for everyone playing at home.

MZero didn't address a single thing i said except me laughing at an mzeroless topic.

take note.
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Obellisk posted...

Fake anger is fake. I literally said the only way he would know he was scum was if he was scum. I get attacked by Mzero because mafia is about not knowing things 100%. At the time of my post I still believed Chris could be "in on it". This is classic, lets misconstrue whats being said and use it against the speaker.

Yeah but your counter is he should have shot Lea for an "obviously fake claim" and the only way he or you could know that is also if you/he is scum so it's a hypocrtical argument. And you discrediting Chris for making a good read because he didn't know 100% that Luis was scum is ridiculous and scummy because no one can ever know someone is scum 100% as town
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Obellisk posted...

Flavor meta makes you scummy, so we should all blindly

I never said this. Where are you getting this?

Obellisk posted...

And gloating. The kind of thing he should keep to the scum board.

I'm not sure what your point is here?

Obellisk posted...

This post is so helpful. You stink if you think X, although X is possible...

I was saying the chances of Chris being scum were so low that it was suspicious to try and push it that day but thanks for cutting that part of the quote out
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Tom I am going to bed
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MZero11 posted...

Obellisk posted...

Fake anger is fake. I literally said the only way he would know he was scum was if he was scum. I get attacked by Mzero because mafia is about not knowing things 100%. At the time of my post I still believed Chris could be "in on it". This is classic, lets misconstrue whats being said and use it against the speaker.

Yeah but your counter is he should have shot Lea for an "obviously fake claim" and the only way he or you could know that is also if you/he is scum so it's a hypocrtical argument. And you discrediting Chris for making a good read because he didn't know 100% that Luis was scum is ridiculous and scummy because no one can ever know someone is scum 100% as town

Saying i still think Lea is scum because the claim is preposterous does not make me scum. I wasn't discrediting Chris, i was saying i still dont fully trust him. There is a difference.

Turning this post into something to attack me with is, if anything, indicative of your alignment and not mine.
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MZero11 posted...

Obellisk posted...
Flavor meta makes you scummy, so we should all blindly

I never said this. Where are you getting this?

MZero11 posted...

I don't flavor meta

I remember when someone claimed death's flavor and death asked if it even fit in the the game before claiming it later

he was town

I was scum and spent like 3 days trying to kill him

anyway no flavor meta will ever be scummier than asking if your flavor would even make sense in the game before claiming it later >_>

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MZero11 posted...

Tom I am going to bed

Good Night, Mzero, good work, sleep well, i'll most likely kill you in the morning.
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Uhh when IS his morning?
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