Board 8 > English Literature Mafia Topic 14: Subtle Foreshadowing

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Obellisk posted...

Camarija posted...

Obellisk posted...

Two kills will make certain of the SK.

One kill ends that theory.

wut

If day 4 opens with two dead town. Then there is a SK and one kill was stopped night one.

If day 4 opens with one dead town. Then no SK.

How can you be certain?

This discounts so many unknown variables it feels fake.

Also, please no more talk of Serial Killers

There just aren't any this game

Luis_Sera made sure to let us know there weren't

And that Mafia have exactly 6 members

So... yeah

Just stop

Camarija posted...

Obellisk posted...

Camarija posted...

Obellisk posted...

Two kills will make certain of the SK.

One kill ends that theory.

wut

If day 4 opens with two dead town. Then there is a SK and one kill was stopped night one.

If day 4 opens with one dead town. Then no SK.

How can you be certain?

This discounts so many unknown variables it feels fake.

Umm because there is no way scum has two extra kills.

What the fuck are you even arguing right now
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For Whom The VOTALS Toll:
(5) MZero: (Lea), (Ben), (5tar), (Ulti), (Lea), (Ben), (Ulti), (Pez), Ulti, (Lea), (Corrik), Ben, SBell, Death, Lea
(3) SBell: Puns, MZero, (Ben), (Lea), (Lopen), (Tom), (Corrik), Cam, (Corrik), (Corrik), (Death)
(2) Lolo: (Corrik), (Tom), (SBell), Tom, Lopen, (Lea), (Lea)
(1) Lea: (Tom), Hb
(1) Cam: (5tar), (Ulti), (SBell), (Tom), Lolo, (Corrik)
(1) Hb: (Corrik), Corrik
(0) Tom: (Lopen), (Cam)
(0) Pez: (Ben), (Ulti)
(0) Lopen: (Corrik)
(0) Puns: (SBell)
(0) Ben: (Lopen)
(0) Hb: (Lopen)

With 15 players alive, it takes 8 votes to reach a majority. Day will end on Wednesday, June 26th at 9PM EDT, roughly 28 minutes from now, or if majority is reached ahead of time.
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I love when people act like things scum said are gospel.
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Well, if neither MZero or Sbell are scum, a lot of my dilemma would resolve itself... I think I might be up for it!
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Lolo was the lily Potter bg claim right?
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Also I think Cam said he doesn't want to claim his role. Lolo claimed BG.
Three HP characters and 2 of them are power?

hb's worst moments where when he got played by Lopen about the not reading thing. Then on top of that his defense was poor at best. I remember not liking Ben and SBell because they were doing more to defend hb than he was himself.

This is about the most active I've seen hb and all he's doing is saying maybe SBell but maybe MZero but maybe SBell.

Hbthebattle posted...

I also really don't like that Pez's argument partially hinges "He's too bad of a player to be scum in this case", but I admittedly have been distracted this game so he hasn't seen my full potential.

Define what good and bad mean though? I like Chris' term of range. But to me it means what kind of level you play at. Or what kind of tools you have in your tool box.

I felt like Chris was accusing you of trying to use a tool you wouldn't be good at using. Not that you are too bad of a player to be scum.
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Hb was a huge sbell isn't scum guy for the longest. I'd be sad for him to vote me.
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Obellisk posted...

Camarija posted...

Obellisk posted...

Camarija posted...

Obellisk posted...

Two kills will make certain of the SK.

One kill ends that theory.

wut

If day 4 opens with two dead town. Then there is a SK and one kill was stopped night one.

If day 4 opens with one dead town. Then no SK.

How can you be certain?

This discounts so many unknown variables it feels fake.

Umm because there is no way scum has two extra kills.

What the fuck are you even arguing right now

Why not?

Mafia Odd Night Vigilante + Town Chronomancer (thing Corrik claimed)

This is just ONE example of where your provisions fail

I discussed the various unknown variables earlier

Obellisk posted...

Lolo was the lily Potter bg claim right?

Are you even bothering to read the game? It's not like this was a minor moment.
Tell me why we should keep you around?

Hbthebattle posted...

Tom Bombadil posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

Tom Bombadil posted...

am I going to let the "BG to draw a shot" claim from last game go anytime soon? signs point to no

anyhwey

I feel like this is way too quiet for 35m before a kinda-up-in-the-air lynch. Kinda makes me wonder if we don't have two town on the chopping block even though I'm not a big fan of either.

Do you want to make a push for Lolo, then?

Ideally

Present your argument. I'm interested in this road because it has, admittedly, been quiet.

-There was no reason as town to claim BG when he did
-His being a Harry Potter is the most suspect I think of the three if you think there are < 3 of em, plus you've got the Harry/Voldy matched set kinda thing going
-BG sticks out like a sore thumb next to all the weird roles we've seen in flips and claims (that are still being claimed, anyway)
-Chronomancer+BG is a goofy interaction and bordering on being a lot for town, especially if you throw in that Lightning Rod theory of Corrik's. And I buy Corrik over Lolo if it comes to that.
-He lurk
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Ok cam. Your theories are right, my theories are wrong. Go smell your own farts in your prius.
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Alright, I think this is the best road.
##Vote: Lolo
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Camarija posted...

Luis_Sera made sure to let us know there weren't

And that Mafia have exactly 6 members

how would he know the former D1
and why would he tell town the truth if he did

I'm not too worried about SK right now but you confuse me.
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Obellisk posted...

I love when people act like things scum said are gospel.

Luis thought he wouldn't get got day 1

He opened up making a big information instead of analysis post

He wanted to sound right

I believe when he explained Mafia have exactly 6 members and there is NO serial killer

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When it became clear Red would die, he tried talking about Serial Killer

Why?

To throw us off

This was obvious

Chris even pointed this out at the end of Day 2

Obvious stuff is obvious

Hbthebattle posted...

Obellisk posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

Obellisk posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

But overall, both Mzero and Sbell have looked pretty lazy, though Sbell has looked the better of the two. Sbell, however, is normally a strong player, so this behavior is out of character more for him than MZero, who's always been semi-inactive.

You've only ever seen sbell with power. Wifom I know, but a true statement.

No, that's wrong. HZD, you were powerless and town.

What is hzd?

And I'll trust your memory better than mine. I feel like I haven't been vanilla in ages.

Horizon Zero Dawn, the game where the only power was the cop who got killed N1.

I kind of want to make a game where all the scum are godfathers and all the town vanilla are cops. But that's a better game for AIM than for the board.
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5tarscream posted...

Obellisk posted...

Lolo was the lily Potter bg claim right?

Are you even bothering to read the game? It's not like this was a minor moment.
Tell me why we should keep you around?

Jesus there are 3 hp claims. I wanna get them right.

Ya know what. You can all kiss my ass. Just lynch me, I didn't rush home to get berated by a bunch of people that literally no no more than I do and are just shooting in the dark.
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Tom Bombadil posted...

Camarija posted...

Luis_Sera made sure to let us know there weren't

And that Mafia have exactly 6 members

how would he know the former D1
and why would he tell town the truth if he did

I'm not too worried about SK right now but you confuse me.

Tom Bombadil posted...

Camarija posted...

Luis_Sera made sure to let us know there weren't

And that Mafia have exactly 6 members

how would he know the former D1
and why would he tell town the truth if he did

I'm not too worried about SK right now but you confuse me.

I appreciate the lengths you go

Good effort

Obellisk posted...

I love when people act like things scum said are gospel.

I've quit trying to convince him of things.
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Camarija posted...

I believe

I believe things too. Doesn't mean I'm right.
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Obellisk posted...

5tarscream posted...

Obellisk posted...

Lolo was the lily Potter bg claim right?

Are you even bothering to read the game? It's not like this was a minor moment.
Tell me why we should keep you around?

Jesus there are 3 hp claims. I wanna get them right.

Ya know what. You can all kiss my ass. Just lynch me, I didn't rush home to get berated by a bunch of people that literally no no more than I do and are just shooting in the dark.

You know what Obellisk

Now I won't lynch you

Just so you must suffer longer with the rest of us

Obellisk posted...

5tarscream posted...

Obellisk posted...

Lolo was the lily Potter bg claim right?

Are you even bothering to read the game? It's not like this was a minor moment.
Tell me why we should keep you around?

Jesus there are 3 hp claims. I wanna get them right.

Ya know what. You can all kiss my ass. Just lynch me, I didn't rush home to get berated by a bunch of people that literally no no more than I do and are just shooting in the dark.

Umm, this is a change in tone I wasn't expecting.
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Hbthebattle posted...

Alright, I think this is the best road.
##Vote: Lolo

one of us one of us
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Like, I always hate it when People say "one or the other of these two MUST be scum" because it often creates a false dichotomy. And there's people I am worried heavily about like Lea or Corrik (well he was on Sbell) on either lynch at the moment. So I think I'm going back on what I said about Lolo earlier and being worried to lynch protection.
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Camarija posted...

Obellisk posted...

5tarscream posted...

Obellisk posted...

Lolo was the lily Potter bg claim right?

Are you even bothering to read the game? It's not like this was a minor moment.
Tell me why we should keep you around?

Jesus there are 3 hp claims. I wanna get them right.

Ya know what. You can all kiss my ass. Just lynch me, I didn't rush home to get berated by a bunch of people that literally no no more than I do and are just shooting in the dark.

You know what Obellisk

Now I won't lynch you

Just so you must suffer longer with the rest of us

now that's just mean
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All Quiet On The VOTALS Front:
(5) MZero: (Lea), (Ben), (5tar), (Ulti), (Lea), (Ben), (Ulti), (Pez), Ulti, (Lea), (Corrik), Ben, SBell, Death, Lea
(3) SBell: Puns, MZero, (Ben), (Lea), (Lopen), (Tom), (Corrik), Cam, (Corrik), (Corrik), (Death)
(2) Lolo: (Corrik), (Tom), (SBell), Tom, Lopen, (Lea), (Lea)
(1) Lea: (Tom), Hb
(1) Cam: (5tar), (Ulti), (SBell), (Tom), Lolo, (Corrik)
(1) Hb: (Corrik), Corrik
(0) Tom: (Lopen), (Cam)
(0) Pez: (Ben), (Ulti)
(0) Lopen: (Corrik)
(0) Puns: (SBell)
(0) Ben: (Lopen)
(0) Hb: (Lopen)

With 15 players alive, it takes 8 votes to reach a majority. Day will end on Wednesday, June 26th at 9PM EDT, roughly 20 minutes from now, or if majority is reached ahead of time.
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Camarija posted...

Obellisk posted...

5tarscream posted...

Obellisk posted...

Lolo was the lily Potter bg claim right?

Are you even bothering to read the game? It's not like this was a minor moment.
Tell me why we should keep you around?

Jesus there are 3 hp claims. I wanna get them right.

Ya know what. You can all kiss my ass. Just lynch me, I didn't rush home to get berated by a bunch of people that literally no no more than I do and are just shooting in the dark.

You know what Obellisk

Now I won't lynch you

Just so you must suffer longer with the rest of us

You son of a b...
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hey @Suprak_the_Stud Hb jumped to Lolo
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oh wait, I forgot to unvote
##Unvote
##Vote: Lolo
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##unvote
##vote: Lolo

If people aren't going to put SBell over MZero maybe they'll do Lolo

Nothing really points to him being town here outside a random flash of Chris's gut

pezloco posted...

Obellisk posted...

5tarscream posted...

Obellisk posted...

Lolo was the lily Potter bg claim right?

Are you even bothering to read the game? It's not like this was a minor moment.
Tell me why we should keep you around?

Jesus there are 3 hp claims. I wanna get them right.

Ya know what. You can all kiss my ass. Just lynch me, I didn't rush home to get berated by a bunch of people that literally no no more than I do and are just shooting in the dark.

Umm, this is a change in tone I wasn't expecting.

If no one cares about what I say before days end and just keep telling me I'm wrong then why bother trying to help
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I'm out and drink. Lunch mz

Clown fiesta I have lessons

Lea3Lea posted...

I'm out and drink. Lunch mz

What if we lynch Lolo instead?
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clown....fiesta?
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Honestly I'm leaning towards MZero lynch anyway

I just wanted you to do something fun and cool, Obellisk

Remember Day 1 when I thought you were a hidden power role?

I thought you were laying low for that purpose

I also kind of expected you to start playing like a mad man soon enough

I understand it may have been an unfair expectation

But you know, I thought you would do stuff

Yeahhh son. LOLO. GET LOLO.
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I'm not voting Lolo

They have a self-resolving claim ~74% of the time

oh hey lopen
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Camarija posted...

Honestly I'm leaning towards MZero lynch anyway

I just wanted you to do something fun and cool, Obellisk

Remember Day 1 when I thought you were a hidden power role?

I thought you were laying low for that purpose

I also kind of expected you to start playing like a mad man soon enough

I understand it may have been an unfair expectation

But you know, I thought you would do stuff

Yeah I let myself go too long this game to come back with fun theatrics.

Let's dwindle the numbers a bit. If forced to win the game I am sure I can pull a puns. It wouldn't be the first time. Scum won't want me in a final three that's for damn sure.
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Sbell, what if you help us lynch Lolo?
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Camarija posted...

I'm not voting Lolo

They have a self-resolving claim ~74% of the time

Red was self-resolving. It was still the right idea to lynch him. Town relies too much on power and not enough on reads. It's why I don't like the idea of pushing votes to force claims.
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Camarija posted...

I'm not voting Lolo

They have a self-resolving claim ~74% of the time

So did Red and look how that turned out
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I calculated they lie 83% of the time, meaning at BEST that claim has a 12.58% chance of winnin at sacrifice.
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Hey Tom what's up. Did I miss anything on page 2 of this topic.
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Hbthebattle posted...

Sbell, what if you help us lynch Lolo?

dunno my iso of MZero felt like I found scum.

I also sense a trap. Like I'll switch my vote and then everyone will be like "ahhhhhhh, he scum!". And I die anyway.
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Lopen posted...

I calculated they lie 83% of the time, meaning at BEST that claim has a 12.58% chance of winnin at sacrifice.

ok
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wait we lynched red???

(this is a joke about how a lot of people seem to have missed key moments of the game)
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