Board 8 > English Literature Mafia Topic 14: Subtle Foreshadowing

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Lopen
06/27/19 9:08:24 PM
#251:


Every voter on MZero looks bad in my books. That was clearly a fall guy lynch. Really don't like Cam's position on it either. Looks like he was trying to avoid being on it until it was absolutely necessary.
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turbopuns3
06/27/19 9:08:41 PM
#252:


Camarija posted...
Dude randomly showed up at the literal last second to vote


It was literally the roughly same time he wakes up every day. He lives in asia. This has been repeated ad nauseum.
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Hbthebattle
06/27/19 9:09:03 PM
#254:


Alright baby, its time! We can probably assume that due to many people coming in later to save Lolo, hes likely scum, and many of those who stepped into save him are scum as well.
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Camarija
06/27/19 9:09:38 PM
#256:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Camarija posted...
Dude randomly showed up at the literal last second to vote

Felt like a Mafia last second sprint

The last vote was you though?


Go back for a second

MZero who basically refused to play the whole day shows up the literal last second to vote to save himself
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benjamin3740
06/27/19 9:09:41 PM
#257:


Hbthebattle posted...
Alright baby, its time! We can probably assume that due to many people coming in later to save Lolo, hes likely scum, and many of those who stepped into save him are scum as well.

Time for what?
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Camarija
06/27/19 9:09:53 PM
#258:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Lopen posted...
Every voter on MZero looks bad in my books. That was clearly a fall guy lynch. Really don't like Cam's position on it either. Looks like he was trying to avoid being on it until it was absolutely necessary.

Speaking of.

##Vote: Cam

Your one day pass is up. Claim.


I refuse outright
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Lopen
06/27/19 9:09:58 PM
#259:


Anyway Lolo is still the correct lynch here. Once we confirm that we can start looking into people on the MZero lynch, as I would be surprised if all 3 scum weren't on it.

##Vote: Lolo
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Hbthebattle
06/27/19 9:11:08 PM
#260:


UltimaterializerX posted...
What's even worse about that MZero lynch is objectively, no one on it can even "look bad by mislynching town" because the dude played so badly this game. That player slot could have been My Immortal or IGCD or Terra Enforcer or Blade. Christ.

Power roles, what say you for today?

Bull fucking shit
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Lopen
06/27/19 9:11:13 PM
#261:


Also how does the lone wolf work again? Do scum have to kill the lone wolf to make him informed mafia?
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turbopuns3
06/27/19 9:11:25 PM
#262:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Thoughts?


The odds of Lea and Ben both being town are.....bad.
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Camarija
06/27/19 9:11:57 PM
#263:


Hopefully Corrik will be able to confirm he saved Lolo and then we can lynch Tom
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pezloco
06/27/19 9:11:58 PM
#264:


Yo, a lot of votes getting thrown around so early. I still think Lolo is scum. But we have two important pieces of information we should be asking about.

I'm not putting a vote down until Corrik and 5tar tell us anything they want to tell us.
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Lopen
06/27/19 9:12:28 PM
#266:


Basically what I'm saying is could scum have burned their night kill last night to recruit Cam? Because if that's how it works that seems likely to me.
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pezloco
06/27/19 9:12:29 PM
#267:


Camarija posted...
Hopefully Corrik will be able to confirm he saved Lolo and then we can lynch Tom


I'd honestly be shocked if you got Tom lynched today.
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Hbthebattle
06/27/19 9:12:37 PM
#268:


##Vote: Lolo

benjamin3740 posted...
Hbthebattle posted...
Alright baby, its time! We can probably assume that due to many people coming in later to save Lolo, hes likely scum, and many of those who stepped into save him are scum as well.

Time for what?

Time to find the scum, of course. Ben, youre actions last night dont make you look too hot, and not does that excuse you gave about thinking its lame town/lame town.
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Camarija
06/27/19 9:12:42 PM
#269:


Lopen posted...
Also how does the lone wolf work again? Do scum have to kill the lone wolf to make him informed mafia?


Dude, it's not a thing in the game

Luis made it clear there are 6 Mafia
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Camarija
06/27/19 9:13:12 PM
#271:


pezloco posted...
Camarija posted...
Hopefully Corrik will be able to confirm he saved Lolo and then we can lynch Tom


I'd honestly be shocked if you got Tom lynched today.


I mean, he's Mafia so it'd be cool
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Obellisk
06/27/19 9:13:52 PM
#272:


Camarija posted...
Lopen posted...
Also how does the lone wolf work again? Do scum have to kill the lone wolf to make him informed mafia?


Dude, it's not a thing in the game

Luis made it clear there are 6 Mafia


I swear to God cam...
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benjamin3740
06/27/19 9:14:55 PM
#273:


turbopuns3 posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
Thoughts?


The odds of Lea and Ben both being town are.....bad.

Alright. Let's kill Lea then!
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Hbthebattle
06/27/19 9:15:34 PM
#274:


benjamin3740 posted...
turbopuns3 posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
Thoughts?


The odds of Lea and Ben both being town are.....bad.

Alright. Let's kill Lea then!

Ah ah ah. Were killing Lolo first here.
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pezloco
06/27/19 9:16:04 PM
#275:


Camarija posted...
pezloco posted...
Camarija posted...
Hopefully Corrik will be able to confirm he saved Lolo and then we can lynch Tom


I'd honestly be shocked if you got Tom lynched today.


I mean, he's Mafia so it'd be cool


At this point I'm more certain than at any other point in the game that he is in fact not mafia.
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5tarscream
06/27/19 9:16:17 PM
#276:


I wish Id trusted my instinct on the scan last night. I felt like it was a waste of time scanning hb but on the bright side. I can confirm he is Harry Potter.

I think Ulti has made a truly terrible start to the day and saying MZero popped up last second to vote is ridiculous.

Of course he voted Lolo. That was the other lynch option. It was vote Lolo or die himself. Cams switch was really poor. I dunno what he was trying to do with the pez thing either.
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turbopuns3
06/27/19 9:16:18 PM
#277:


Lopen posted...
Basically what I'm saying is could scum have burned their night kill last night to recruit Cam? Because if that's how it works that seems likely to me.


How are you picturing that role working. Like what does scum gain by doing it
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Camarija
06/27/19 9:17:24 PM
#278:


Hbthebattle posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
turbopuns3 posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
Thoughts?


The odds of Lea and Ben both being town are.....bad.

Alright. Let's kill Lea then!

Ah ah ah. Were killing Lolo first here.


I'm holding my horses

One of the last things Chris told me was:

CAM

NEVER LOLO

NEVER LOLO

or something like that

so you know... I want to believe Chris had the good read there
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Hbthebattle
06/27/19 9:18:22 PM
#281:


Camarija posted...
Hbthebattle posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
turbopuns3 posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
Thoughts?


The odds of Lea and Ben both being town are.....bad.

Alright. Let's kill Lea then!

Ah ah ah. Were killing Lolo first here.


I'm holding my horses

One of the last things Chris told me was:

CAM

NEVER LOLO

NEVER LOLO

or something like that

so you know... I want to believe Chris had the good read there

Chris is not perfect. Chris can be wrong.
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pezloco
06/27/19 9:18:43 PM
#282:


5tarscream posted...
I wish Id trusted my instinct on the scan last night. I felt like it was a waste of time scanning hb but on the bright side. I can confirm he is Harry Potter.

I think Ulti has made a truly terrible start to the day and saying MZero popped up last second to vote is ridiculous.

Of course he voted Lolo. That was the other lynch option. It was vote Lolo or die himself. Cams switch was really poor. I dunno what he was trying to do with the pez thing either.


Cam's vote on me makes sense. He thought MZero was scum. I was clearly trying to derail the MZero lynch. I was a POE scum suspect. It was a decent vote based on his reads. We're not lynching Cam today.
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Camarija
06/27/19 9:19:22 PM
#283:


5tarscream posted...
I wish Id trusted my instinct on the scan last night. I felt like it was a waste of time scanning hb but on the bright side. I can confirm he is Harry Potter.

I think Ulti has made a truly terrible start to the day and saying MZero popped up last second to vote is ridiculous.

Of course he voted Lolo. That was the other lynch option. It was vote Lolo or die himself. Cams switch was really poor. I dunno what he was trying to do with the pez thing either.


I was trying to lynch Pez I guess

Also, I don't think it was a poor switch

I believe Lolo is Town Bodyguard

And cool, good to know Hb is town I guess

But we kind of recognized this Day 1 when everyone piled on him
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Hbthebattle
06/27/19 9:19:32 PM
#284:


The person we should be lynching today is clear based on yesterday's results.
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turbopuns3
06/27/19 9:19:54 PM
#285:


Camarija posted...
so you know... I want to believe Chris had the good read there


That lolo read was the least "chill chris = peak chris" thing he did honestly.

You said mzero looked bad for showing up last second to vote?

How in the world does lolo not look worse for showing up even sooner than mzero did...only to vote and say nothing
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Lopen
06/27/19 9:19:59 PM
#286:


turbopuns3 posted...
Lopen posted...
Basically what I'm saying is could scum have burned their night kill last night to recruit Cam? Because if that's how it works that seems likely to me.


How are you picturing that role working. Like what does scum gain by doing it


Having an informed scum is better than a non-informed scum? Maybe he gains some manner of ability if recruited?

I did find what I assumed to be the appropriate role on "Mafia Universe" as Traitor. Sometimes it's implemented by sending the kill on the traitor, so that is a possibility. I think if we don't get two kills tomorrow we should definitely put on the table the possibility of Cam having been recruited. Of course the possibility of him being real scum is very real too, with that v scummy vote on MZero at the very last second.
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Camarija
06/27/19 9:20:31 PM
#287:


pezloco posted...
5tarscream posted...
I wish Id trusted my instinct on the scan last night. I felt like it was a waste of time scanning hb but on the bright side. I can confirm he is Harry Potter.

I think Ulti has made a truly terrible start to the day and saying MZero popped up last second to vote is ridiculous.

Of course he voted Lolo. That was the other lynch option. It was vote Lolo or die himself. Cams switch was really poor. I dunno what he was trying to do with the pez thing either.


Cam's vote on me makes sense. He thought MZero was scum. I was clearly trying to derail the MZero lynch. I was a POE scum suspect. It was a decent vote based on his reads. We're not lynching Cam today.


Yeah my bad, it felt a bit too convenient there

I read afterwards that you weren't so much pushing MZero and placeholder voting there
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Tom Bombadil
06/27/19 9:21:14 PM
#288:


Camarija posted...

Luis made it clear there are 6 Mafia


Luis was mafia so

I don't see any particular reason not to try the Lolo thing again but I'm not in a rush to get votes down

Ben needs more of an eye than I've Ben giving him too

Mafia using their night kill to recruit a lone Wolf instead seems an oddly specific thing to be worried about unless that's become a thing since my day, even accounting for that bit with Cam a while back
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pezloco
06/27/19 9:21:26 PM
#289:


Hbthebattle posted...
The person we should be lynching today is clear based on yesterday's results.


I don't think we should assume anything is clear. Let people come in and give their opinions. Let's not decide who we will lynch in the first half hour the day is up.
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turbopuns3
06/27/19 9:21:33 PM
#290:


Chris's Lolo read came when he was riding the high of pegging red and he just thought he was ON FIRE etc.
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Camarija
06/27/19 9:21:34 PM
#291:


Lopen posted...
turbopuns3 posted...
Lopen posted...
Basically what I'm saying is could scum have burned their night kill last night to recruit Cam? Because if that's how it works that seems likely to me.


How are you picturing that role working. Like what does scum gain by doing it


Having an informed scum is better than a non-informed scum? Maybe he gains some manner of ability if recruited?

I did find what I assumed to be the appropriate role on "Mafia Universe" as Traitor. Sometimes it's implemented by sending the kill on the traitor, so that is a possibility. I think if we don't get two kills tomorrow we should definitely put on the table the possibility of Cam having been recruited. Of course the possibility of him being real scum is very real too, with that v scummy vote on MZero at the very last second.


I'm cool with whatever the wisdom of crowd wants

But I'll keep pushing for Mafia lynches over mislynching myself
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Lopen
06/27/19 9:22:47 PM
#292:


Chris's Lolo read also came before he made an obviously scum claim so it should not be trusted by any stretch.
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Hbthebattle
06/27/19 9:23:39 PM
#293:


So Cam, you want to lynch one of the people who was NOT on the mislynch yesterday? How does that work out?
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Lea3Lea
06/27/19 9:24:30 PM
#294:


I did warn y'all I was bad at Mafia. I also warned Mzero it was claim or die. Oh well, them's the breaks! One could argue that there's zero benefit for scum to tunnel someone like Mzero into oblivion, but even I felt scummy after that flip. I'm just gonna go back to safe fluffy sheep land.
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Camarija
06/27/19 9:26:17 PM
#295:


6. Camarija

7. 5tarscream
2. UltimaterializerX
8. Hbthebattle

3. Lea3Lea

13. Corrik
14. Lolo_Guru

1. Pezloco - I'm wary of Pez, consistently in my POE
4. Benjamin - I like Ben
5. SBell (Obellisk) - I'm wary of Obellisk
9. Death (HtaeD) - I like Death
10. Tom Bombadil - I'm wary of Tom
11. Lopen - I'm wary of Lopen, but Chris was positive they are Town
12. turbopuns3 - I like Puns

so here I'm around:

Pez
Obellisk
Tom

but I'm still missing more Mafia right?

Also I could be 100% wrong
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turbopuns3
06/27/19 9:27:16 PM
#296:


Lea3Lea posted...
I did warn y'all I was bad at Mafia. I also warned Mzero it was claim or die.


Ok you can hang

##Unvote
##Vote: Lea
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Hbthebattle
06/27/19 9:27:20 PM
#297:


Cam, what makes Lea so town to you, especially after the person she pushed for for so long flipped town?
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Camarija
06/27/19 9:27:40 PM
#298:


Hbthebattle posted...
So Cam, you want to lynch one of the people who was NOT on the mislynch yesterday? How does that work out?


Why would you phrase the question this way?

You're making an incredible assumption that Lolo WASN'T also a mislynch

The major difference is that players on Lolo actively WANTED to mislynch the Town Bodyguard (if claim is real)

I believe the claim is real
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Lopen
06/27/19 9:28:04 PM
#299:


Honestly I think like, the game is probably winnable just by going through members of the MZero lynch

Ulti, (Lea), (Corrik), (Ben), SBell, Death, Lea, Lolo, Ben, Cam

Lolo > Ben > Lea > Cam > SBell > Death > Ulti

Granted we can't get to Death and Ulti but Ulti is soft confirmed and the game is probably over by the time we get to Cam.
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Hbthebattle
06/27/19 9:28:09 PM
#300:


Don't give me things like "I like X", you need to tell us why.
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