Board 8 > English Literature Mafia Topic 14: Subtle Foreshadowing

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Hbthebattle posted...

Remember how we all were talking yesterday about there probably not being a cop because of Cam and 5tar? What happened to that, hm?

One of the many reasons I think he's lying. However, him lying in this manner has already been stated is a null tell at worst and a town tell at best.
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benjamin3740 posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

Remember how we all were talking yesterday about there probably not being a cop because of Cam and 5tar? What happened to that, hm?

Just go >_>

I scanned 3 mafia. Deal with it.

You're really mad about this why?

Because if I trusted you, I'd be supporting you. But I don't. Faking being a scanner is a totally possible play, especially when Red did it and people were reluctant to vote him until he was countered.
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Pre CONCH Day 1 votals:
(4) Dowolf: (Cam), (Cam), (ben), Scare, (Lea), Red, Death, (Ben), (Lea), (Sultan), Lopen
(3) Lea: (Cam), (Corrik), (Cam), (puns), (Chris), Tom, Hb, (5tar), (Scare), (Scare), (Ulti), Ulti
(2) SBell: (Corrik), (puns), (Lea), Chris, puns, (Lopen), (Lea)
(2) red: Cam, pezloco, (Lopen), (Lea), (Lea), (Lopen), (Lea)
(2) Ben: (Chris), (Corrik), (Lea), (dowolf), 5tar, (Chris), Luis
(1) MZero: (Lea), (Lea), (Lea), (Ben), (dowolf), (Cam), (Lea), (Lea), (Death), (Lea), (Lea), Lea
(1) Sir Chris: (Tom), (Ben), (puns), (Sultan), (Scare), Corrik, (puns), (Lea)
(1) Scare: (5tar), (puns), (Lea), dowolf
(0) Lopen: (Ulti), (Hb), (SBell), (Scare), (SBell), (Ulti)
(0) Tom: (Ulti)
(0) pezloco: (Ulti), (red)
(0) Hb: (Chris), (Lea), (puns), (Tom), (Corrik), (Death), (Cam), (Corrik)
(0) Sultan: (pezloco), (SBell), (Luis)
(0) Puns: (Lea), (Corrik), (Ulti), (Scare), (Lea)
(0) Cam: (Lopen), (Lea), (Sbell)
(0) Death: (Lea), (Chris)
(0) Lolo: (Lea), (Cam)
(0) Corrik: (Sultan)
(0) No Lynch: (pezloco), (Tom), (Lopen)
(0) Luis: (Lea)
(0) Ulti: (Lopen), (Hb), (Scare)
(0) 5tar: (Ulti)

Is there anyone not voted here?
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turbopuns3 posted...

Alright well I'm gonna just shut up now because there's nothing productive for me to say until you continue

(see how this isn't helpful. Anyway do whatever)

That's on you. Not me.

I like these reactions I'm getting personally.

There's still probably a 4th scum
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Lolo_Guru posted...

Pre CONCH Day 1 votals:
(4) Dowolf: (Cam), (Cam), (ben), Scare, (Lea), Red, Death, (Ben), (Lea), (Sultan), Lopen
(3) Lea: (Cam), (Corrik), (Cam), (puns), (Chris), Tom, Hb, (5tar), (Scare), (Scare), (Ulti), Ulti
(2) SBell: (Corrik), (puns), (Lea), Chris, puns, (Lopen), (Lea)
(2) red: Cam, pezloco, (Lopen), (Lea), (Lea), (Lopen), (Lea)
(2) Ben: (Chris), (Corrik), (Lea), (dowolf), 5tar, (Chris), Luis
(1) MZero: (Lea), (Lea), (Lea), (Ben), (dowolf), (Cam), (Lea), (Lea), (Death), (Lea), (Lea), Lea
(1) Sir Chris: (Tom), (Ben), (puns), (Sultan), (Scare), Corrik, (puns), (Lea)
(1) Scare: (5tar), (puns), (Lea), dowolf
(0) Lopen: (Ulti), (Hb), (SBell), (Scare), (SBell), (Ulti)
(0) Tom: (Ulti)
(0) pezloco: (Ulti), (red)
(0) Hb: (Chris), (Lea), (puns), (Tom), (Corrik), (Death), (Cam), (Corrik)
(0) Sultan: (pezloco), (SBell), (Luis)
(0) Puns: (Lea), (Corrik), (Ulti), (Scare), (Lea)
(0) Cam: (Lopen), (Lea), (Sbell)
(0) Death: (Lea), (Chris)
(0) Lolo: (Lea), (Cam)
(0) Corrik: (Sultan)
(0) No Lynch: (pezloco), (Tom), (Lopen)
(0) Luis: (Lea)
(0) Ulti: (Lopen), (Hb), (Scare)
(0) 5tar: (Ulti)

Is there anyone not voted here?

22 votes there, the 21 players and NL
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Hbthebattle posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

Remember how we all were talking yesterday about there probably not being a cop because of Cam and 5tar? What happened to that, hm?

Just go >_>

I scanned 3 mafia. Deal with it.

You're really mad about this why?

Because if I trusted you, I'd be supporting you. But I don't. Faking being a scanner is a totally possible play, especially when Red did it and people were reluctant to vote him until he was countered.

Guess what, I dont even care because when I die, 3 scum will follow suit
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I wonder if everyone sulking is assuming they and their team got scanned. That's what dearly departed Mzero, an angel too pure for this world would have thought.

Second reason to stall this:

The longer he stalls, the less time town has to confirm or deny if he pushed lynches in the direction of his scan results.
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And that is why I have no reason to reveal other scans so suddenly. Let scum keep guessing on whether I'm bluffing or not.

Play the rest of the game as normal. It's win win for town. Sorry
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Lopen posted...

Second reason to stall this:

The longer he stalls, the less time town has to confirm or deny if he pushed lynches in the direction of his scan results.

Are we really accusing him of stalling when day has been up for less than 1.5 hours? Still plenty of time for everything to play out.
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1. Pezloco: no end of day votes
2. UltimaterializerX: no end of day votes
3. Lea3Lea: no end of day votes
4. Benjamin: no end of day votes if D1 doesn't count
5. SBell (Obellisk): VOTES
6. Camarija: no end of day votes
8. 5tarscream: no end of day votes
9. Hbthebattle: same
10. Death (HtaeD): no votes if D1 doesn't count
11. Tom Bombadil: VOTES
12. Lopen: no eodv
13. turbopuns3: no eodv
14. Corrik: VOTES
15. Lolo_Guru: VOTES

.....everybody has been voted at this point >_>
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Lopen posted...

Second reason to stall this:

The longer he stalls, the less time town has to confirm or deny if he pushed lynches in the direction of his scan results.

Keep in mind I tried my best to NOT tip scum off that I was cop either. >_> I didnt try to hint TOO hard
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Lea3Lea posted...

I wonder if everyone sulking is assuming they and their team got scanned. That's what dearly departed Mzero, an angel too pure for this world would have thought.

Oh man gg how has my scum game fallen so sharply /eyeroll

pezloco posted...

Lopen posted...

Second reason to stall this:

The longer he stalls, the less time town has to confirm or deny if he pushed lynches in the direction of his scan results.

Are we really accusing him of stalling when day has been up for less than 1.5 hours? Still plenty of time for everything to play out.

Yes. Thank you!

WHat a world when scum is more understanding of the situation than your own team!
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Yeah that's how I play cop. Leave no indication I know who the scum are, just assume I won't be killed until night 4, leaving town with no hints
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Puns and Lea have the best town reactions so far
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Well anyway I'm continuing to vote Lea as that reaction to being pressured over voting MZero is basically a scum confession

Literally no reason to believe Pez has a guilty on him at this point

I was very afraid that scum would randomly shoot D1 claimed town vanilla Ben before he revealed scans as well

This cop claim is basically a scum confession.
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The last time Ben got this brazen, it was RDR2.
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And Ben was the scum MVP during RDR2.
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benjamin3740 posted...

WHat a world when scum is more understanding of the situation than your own team!

Literally scum benefits more from stalling this than town

100% not debatable

Like i said, a 4th scum is probably godfather. No reason to wait it out any longer.

But I dont want to just reveal all 3 at once either because we really dont make any progress toward the godfather that way. Unless you are all dying to go do some ISO's?

....Should I reveal night 1 scan?
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I think Ben saw the writing on the wall when I identified all the scum and decided to go nuts
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benjamin3740 posted...

Like i said, a 4th scum is probably godfather. No reason to wait it out any longer.

But I dont want to just reveal all 3 at once either because we really dont make any progress toward the godfather that way. Unless you are all dying to go do some ISO's?

....Should I reveal night 1 scan?

Yes, your riddle is too difficult

turbopuns3 posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

WHat a world when scum is more understanding of the situation than your own team!

Literally scum benefits more from stalling this than town

100% not debatable

Now you're making me feel bad

I'm trying to play this the best I can. What do you want?
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Realistically, with three guilty scans there's already enough content to find the 4th scum in the first three days of the game already. I dunno what reactions are really valuable here

I scanned Death night 1.

DEATH IS MAFIA
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Watch it be someone criticizing him right now. My best guess is that it'll be Lopen.
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Oh wow Death is Mafia!!! Please tell me more scum cop.
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Lea3Lea posted...

Realistically, with three guilty scans there's already enough content to find the 4th scum in the first three days of the game already. I dunno what reactions are really valuable here

I've been liking yours. That's good info for me. Maybe not for you if you're town and all. But I got info out of that
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I knew a town Death wouldn't go voting so aggressively! I mean I sort of did and then I abandoned it, but y'know

benjamin3740 posted...

Lopen posted...

Really don't like how Benjamin is continually steering lynches to causes that are dead in the water without really trying to build a case, rather than consolidating lynches.

1. Lolo
2. Ben
Distant 3. Tom
Distanter 4. SBell

These are the acceptable lynches to me today. I accept nothing else at the moment.

What does that mean a cause is dead in the water? I dont really want to lynch any of the Harry potterites today. They're all already on my town list and I really want to resolve the leftovers who are VERY likely scum because my reads actually have a history of being good, I just never push a lynch hard enough and never get my way. Trying to push them this time!

This post is why I think Ben made the calculated risk of faking a scan on me.
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Convenient that it's someone who isn't around right now. What's the point of waiting with Death- he isn't around to give reactions and you know that.
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Hbthebattle posted...

Watch it be someone criticizing him right now. My best guess is that it'll be Lopen.

Why do you hate cops

Oh yeah it's 2019
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Lopen posted...

Oh wow Death is Mafia!!! Please tell me more scum cop.

What exactly is the scum motive here?

I'm going to let him reveal the third scan, then I can reveal his gambit.
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Hbthebattle posted...

Convenient that it's someone who isn't around right now. What's the point of waiting with Death- he isn't around to give reactions and you know that.

Hence why i wanted to fucking wait

Now Death comes in knowing I'm most likely legit and that everything he says will be judged

Thank you.
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Lopen is scum isn't he.
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Day 1 I had no say in the lynch

Day 2 I had no say in the lynch

Day 3 we braindead lynched a town read of mine

Now you are taking complete control of the day again

Sorry it's just frustrating feeling like a spectator within the game

Lopen posted...

Oh wow Death is Mafia!!! Please tell me more scum cop.

This one is actually possible. He's on my POE list.
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Wow! Ben didn't vote Death at ALL during D2, despite having a scan on him!
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I'm not scum, but here, let me show you how I can magically transform into one

##Unvote
##Vote: Ben

Reveal the guilty scan on me I'm tired of waiting.
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Hbthebattle posted...

Wow! Ben didn't vote Death at ALL during D2, despite having a scan on him!

Ok, this one is actually pretty terrible

turbopuns3 posted...

Day 1 I had no say in the lynch

Day 2 I had no say in the lynch

Day 3 we braindead lynched a town read of mine

Now you are taking complete control of the day again

Sorry it's just frustrating feeling like a spectator within the game

Who'd you want to lynch today? Sbell?

Sorry I had to save him. Read Pez's posts near EoD yesterday and I think it'll be clear.

That is assuming you have the info I do that Pez is scum.

Which I have given you
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Hbthebattle posted...

Wow! Ben didn't vote Death at ALL during D2, despite having a scan on him!

I was already risking it voting Pez with little backup evidence. Was not going to vote Death for no reason
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benjamin3740 posted...

turbopuns3 posted...

Day 1 I had no say in the lynch

Day 2 I had no say in the lynch

Day 3 we braindead lynched a town read of mine

Now you are taking complete control of the day again

Sorry it's just frustrating feeling like a spectator within the game

Who'd you want to lynch today? Sbell?

Sorry I had to save him. Read Pez's posts near EoD yesterday and I think it'll be clear.

That is assuming you have the info I do that Pez is scum.

Which I have given you

I'd really rather not have to out who I think is the last town power to show everyone you're lying.
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