Poll of the Day > Anime, Manga, VN, JRPG, Related Things Discussion Topic LXXXIX

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Zeus posted...

I think I'm going to get Ultra SFIV on sale, as boring of a selection as that might be >_>

Nothing else stood out to me either and, honestly, I generally don't buy games via Steam. The only other title I bought this year was UMvC3 last week because it was on sale for $7.50.

I don't have any console. Otherwise I would be getting most of what I have on my wishlist on PS4 or Switch. No bullshit DRM to deal with.

deoxxys posted...

Oh I bought a crap ton of Tower Defense games, because I love those.

Also on Ni no Kuni 2:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/916373-pc/78647336

I think after playing so many of them on Kongregate over the years that it became my least favorite genre next to music related ones. Orcs Must Die is fun at least.
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I too feel perma burned out on TD games from all the flash games I've played of them over the years.

Also finished rewatching kingdom S1 and S2 and caught up on S3. The art style change for season 3 is a bit hard to wrap my head around. I mean, it is better almost objectively, but it's different. Now Xin's eyes aren't 90% of his face and the strategist girl looks like a different person. The combat looks better and we actually have blood in slashes now. Overall I'm pretty satisfied with the quality of it's return. The story arc is also fucking hype. I kinda feel like it might be too hype for how relatively early in the series it is. Assuming the good guys win, it'll be pretty hard to top that.

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YoukaiSlayer posted...

I too feel perma burned out on TD games from all the flash games I've played of them over the years.

i lovem, tho my faves will always be kingdom rush and dungeon warfare.

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I'm just going to wait for the summer Steam sale instead.
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I went ahead and bought some stuff since I got stimulus money. Snagged FFX/X2 remaster, FF12 zodiac age, and .hack//GU remaster. No idea when I'll play em since I actually have a backlog due to illness. I'm tempted to get the nep game on sale but I haven't beaten the last 2 I bought. I hope I get better soon cause I got hella games to play.

I crave more kingdom but apparently it's on indefinitely delay cause of covid. That sucks. Starting tower of god now. Maybe it'll drive me back to reading the webtoon even though reading gives me a headache these days and I can't take anything for em.

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Alright, watched all the eps of tower of god that are out (up through episode 5). I think they've done a pretty good job honestly. The pacing is definitely fast and some minor stuff is skipped but the tests so far have been pretty well represented and it actually feels like they can wrap up the prologue in 13 eps without it feeling too rushed.

The few things I wished they had done was mention all the irregulars they did in the manga. We only hear about urek in the anime but there were some pretty cool other ones that just weren't shown here. They always bring change to the tower and thats been kind of glossed over. I guess they will probably get into them when they introduce FUG in season 2 though. They were at least nice enough to show us urek and his epic back tattoo and he's the only one that really matters for a while.

They also didn't mention needles (which is what the black march and all other similar looking things are). Hatz is actually pretty unique for having swords. Needles are made with razor thin blades to minimize shinsui resistance. They mention it on floor one when they bring up the black march in the source and it only takes like 2 seconds so they might as well have just kept it in the anime.

Finally, Bam's name is not bam. It's the twenty fifth Bam which means the 25th night. It's kind of intentionally not really a name. I mean, he is generally reffered to as just Bam (for now) but it's still important to know his full name. Maybe they will give some more flashbacks to him and Rachel and explain it then.

All minor issues though. They've still done a pretty good job at keeping us in the dark about everything. You can't even ever see very far. You have almost no concept of what the 2nd floor even really looks like despite seeing plenty of rooms and some grassland outside. The source did the same thing and really kept the whole thing feeling mysterious for all of season 1. Once season 2 starts we get more and more answers both directly and indirectly in the form of just seeing more of the various places they go to.

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Triple post but I can't edit and no one else is posting. Watched the 5 eps of the villainess show that are out and holy shit was it a pleasant surprise. It actually gives me similar vibes to bofuri. Also this is the first mixed harem I can think of in anime. Like, occasionally we get maybe 1 girl or 1 guy at the edge of harem but this harem is straight up 4 guys, 3 girls. This may be the closest to a yuri harem anime I get.

The main character sure is oblivious though in a way that would make the average male harem MC jealous. The characters are so into her they aren't that far off from going yandere and she has absolutely no clue they like her at all. I hope we get more episodes soon. I'd be happy with her ending up with any of the girls.

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villainess isekai is so great

feels like the moral of the story is "just be a nice person"

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agesboy posted...

feels like the moral of the story is "just be a nice person"

Seems like it. I do like how my proposed strategy of just become the love interest is sorta what she's doing anyway, although she's doing it to cock block the dudes from having events with maria, it's still the same result.

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Random thought: The Great Saiyaman would fit right in with the JoJo crowd.

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YoukaiSlayer posted...

Triple post but I can't edit and no one else is posting.

Sure, blame the victims.

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Can someone recommend an anime that is similar to Roujin Z or silent Mobius. I miss they 80s-90s style modern anime has way to much cute.

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ScritchOwl posted...

Can someone recommend an anime that is similar to Roujin Z or silent Mobius. I miss they 80s-90s style modern anime has way to much cute.

Silent Mobius looks cute, though... Roujin Z looks kinda cute as well.

idk, could just watch older anime. Iria: Zeiram the Animation, for instance. The heroine is kinda cute like the other anime you cited but it has a more serious style and content. It's also scifi.

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people who haven't read The House in Fata Morgana are up in arms because at one point they translate tsundere as "fragile male ego" and tried to raise a stink about it over twitter saying they were inserting politics into translations

the original japanese developer responded by saying that in the context of the story it fit perfectly and they stood behind the translator's decision

https://twitter.com/KillScottKill/status/1257659022502760449

it's a good day

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That's fantastic. There are certainly extremists on both ends of the spectrum, and having a knee-jerk reaction to certain words without knowing the context or characters is just dumb.

What's BTFO?

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Man people really will be offended by anything.

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keyblader1985 posted...

What's BTFO?

blown the fuck out aka getting owned

YoukaiSlayer posted...

Man people really will be offended by anything.

the best part was that this was all triggered by the translator themselves talking about how they thought about how to translate that particular line for weeks and finally settled on "fragile male ego"

but people latched onto "they translated tsundere as fragile male ego!!!!" without context and it got posted in a bunch of anti-sjw hiveminds

they literally wouldn't have known if the translator wasn't talking about, you know, how proper translation is hard and not 1 to 1

it's also actually hilarious they picked fata morgana of all things to get pissy about considering it is one of the most feminist VNs out there period

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Saw Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex complete collection at Walmart for $13 and figured why not. ..Then found out it's actually "complete" season one.

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keyblader1985 posted...

Saw Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex complete collection at Walmart for $13 and figured why not. ..Then found out it's actually "complete" season one.

Well, you at least got the actual main "meat" of SAC since S2 is pretty bleh compared to S1


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agesboy posted...

people who haven't read The House in Fata Morgana are up in arms because at one point they translate tsundere as "fragile male ego" and tried to raise a stink about it over twitter saying they were inserting politics into translations

the original japanese developer responded by saying that in the context of the story it fit perfectly and they stood behind the translator's decision

https://twitter.com/KillScottKill/status/1257659022502760449

it's a good day

agesboy posted...

people who haven't read The House in Fata Morgana are up in arms because at one point they translate tsundere as "fragile male ego" and tried to raise a stink about it over twitter saying they were inserting politics into translations

the original japanese developer responded by saying that in the context of the story it fit perfectly and they stood behind the translator's decision

https://twitter.com/KillScottKill/status/1257659022502760449

it's a good day

I don't know where you got that from. It says "We stand for the translator's opinion" It doesn't say anything about it fitting the story. It's wrong regardless since translations are supposed to be as literal as possible. Funimation had awful ones like the Gamergate one or " male patriarchy" lines.
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Revelation34 posted...

I don't know where you got that from. It says "We stand for the translator's opinion" It doesn't say anything about it fitting the story.

https://twitter.com/Novectacle_EN/status/1257649844811751425

tldr: tsundere as used was not the traditional term but meant to imply something about that character. fragile male ego implies it better

Revelation34 posted...

It's wrong regardless since translations are supposed to be as literal as possible.

no they aren't, they're meant to preserve the spirit and intention of the conveyed message while flowing well. obviously there are many cases where the translation takes too many liberties, but this is not one of them

fata morgana's setting is also western and using the term tsundere without translating it would actually be idiotic

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agesboy posted...

https://twitter.com/Novectacle_EN/status/1257649844811751425

tldr: tsundere as used was not the traditional term but meant to imply something about that character. fragile male ego implies it better

no they aren't, they're meant to preserve the spirit and intention of the conveyed message while flowing well. obviously there are many cases where the translation takes too many liberties, but this is not one of them

fata morgana's setting is also western and using the term tsundere without translating it would actually be idiotic

I you're going by that logic then it shouldn't be used at all since it has no actual translation.
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that's right, tsundere wasn't used at all. they used another term with the exact same implication and hostility that fit the tone and pacing of the scene

the translator "added" nothing to the scene that wasn't already there

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agesboy posted...

that's right, tsundere wasn't used at all. they used another term with the exact same implication and hostility that fit the tone and pacing of the scene

the translator "added" nothing to the scene that wasn't already there

Then that makes no sense. All the people complaining are saying the word was used.
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it was fan translators that translated it as tsundere

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no, tsundere was used in the original japanese language script, people are complaining that the english script has "fragile male ego"

people are complaining because they think tsundere -> fragile male ego was either a bad literal translation or inserting gender politics into the vn

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I love the Golden Week sales on PSN, it lets me get so much weird stuff. I got Punch Line, a visual novel / puzzle game about a guy who lost his body haunting a house with multiple females, and seeing panties too often will end the world by meteor. Written by the guy behind the Zero Escape games, which I admit is what tempted me despite the weird sounding plot, I loved 999. It also has an anime, because of course it does.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punch_Line

Anyone else watched it or played the game?
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DeltaBladeX posted...

Anyone else watched it or played the game?

I watched demolition d+ talk about it for like 20 seconds.

Speaking of which, can't believe he actually posted a new video like a month ago. Was like 4 years since his last one.

I think I heard the anime was ok but not amazing.

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I might check it out later, I finished the first episode in the game. The only shame is that the game works out at more content, it has an extra 10 episodes of content over the anime.
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DeltaBladeX posted...

Anyone else watched it or played the game?

I watched it
It was honestly pretty bad and the humour fell pretty flat for me

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arachnid ended stupidly

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DeltaBladeX posted...

Written by the guy behind the Zero Escape games, which I admit is what tempted me despite the weird sounding plot, I loved 999.

whens ever17

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DeltaBladeX posted...

Anyone else watched it or played the game?

I have watched the anime, which is equal parts funny and bizarre, but I was unaware that the game had been translated, so ... thanks for the inadvertent tip, Delta. *hat tip*

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I_Abibde posted...

I have watched the anime, which is equal parts funny and bizarre, but I was unaware that the game had been translated, so ... thanks for the inadvertent tip, Delta. *hat tip*

No problem. PS4 version is currently discounted for a few more days, $12, so I grabbed it. No sale on the Vita version sadly, if you have one of those.
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All I have seen recently was this seasons batch of "Ascendance of a Bookworm", love it.

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bought EDF5 the other day and jesus christ this is the wildest game i've played in a long time

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Watched Monthly Girls' Nozaki-kun, which was pretty good mostly for the manga side of things. I'm hoping it gets a second season so I don't have to search for the manga, especially since I'm not even sure what free manga resources exist any more since the ones I was using kinda closed.

keyblader1985 posted...

Saw Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex complete collection at Walmart for $13 and figured why not. ..Then found out it's actually "complete" season one.

Technically that kinda is the complete collection, since season 1 was "Stand Alone Complex" and season 2 was "2nd Gig". Granted, $13 would have been a good price for SAC, 2nd Gig, and SSS.


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agesboy posted...

bought EDF5 the other day and jesus christ this is the wildest game i've played in a long time

The only problem with that game is that it's like EDF 4.5. They've got some of the same levels that were in the game like 4 games ago. Lots of recycled content.

It's super damn fun though, especially with friends on inferno.

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isn't much of a problem when i'm totally new to the series!

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Indeed. The games are so much stupid fun that it's honestly worth rebuying most of the same experience over and over. They even did everyone a great service with how they changed armor to be shared IIRC. Now if only they buffed it so it dropped more per pick up on higher difficulties.

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Just watched the new episode of villainess. This show is too damn enjoyable. I'm already sad I have to wait an entire week to see more. They gonna need a new genre for stuff like this and bofuri. Overpowered idiot girls have a good time is more of a winning formula than I thought it would be. I guess it's sort of an evolution of cute girls do cute things but more actually happens. I hope theres many more like it. It's as easy to consume as shonen. I feel like I could watch 50 episodes of this casually.

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YoukaiSlayer posted...

They gonna need a new genre for stuff like this and bofuri. Overpowered idiot girls have a good time is more of a winning formula than I thought it would be.

that's just isekai with donkan protagonist

i do agree in a different way though, isekai tends to be MUCH more entertaining when your protagonist has significant character traits

ride-on king, kage no jitsuryokusha ni naritakute, yakuza reincarnation, and akuyaku reijou tensei oji-san are all interesting because of their protagonists' rather extreme (compared to the average isekai protagonist, anyways) personalities

the first because it's shirtless bear-riding putin memes realized, the second because of all the problems he's accidentally and unknowingly solving by living out his chuuni fantasies, the third because yakuza problem solving in an isekai world, and the fourth because nice ojisan has the same effect on the plot as katarina does

god all four need anime

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I don't feel like isekai is even needed for this though. You could easily have a normal human in the normal world being dumb and having everything work out. Like I could imagine an anime where a dumbass girl accidentally climbs her way up the cooperate ladder starting as a McDonald's employee or something. She'd just have to continue to have odd wholesome ideas that work out because she gets lucky, meanwhile she is oblivious to how effective it is and how everyone else is trying to gain her favor.

The formula could really be applied to almost anything that you can be good at.

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I'm probably going to be going over this list to pick out stuff to watch
https://i.imgur.com/Fzf6bqs.jpg
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quigonzel posted...

Tactics style Gundam game is just what I needed during these quarantine days.

what differentiates this from a super robot wars game?

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Ooo, I can answer this one, since I play both series (including Cross Rays on my DS).

The SD Gundam G Generation franchise -- and it is a franchise, almost as big as SRW in terms of the number of games -- is, at its most basic level, Super Robot Wars featuring only Gundam units, but the customization, deployment, game play, etc. is different. Hard to explain without being overly technical. I find that G Gen is a step above SRW in terms of map design and unit variety, but it lacks any overarching story because it tends not to deviate from the story of the individual Gundam series that make up its level selection. It also tends to be a lot harder, with a much steeper difficulty curve unless you are playing one of the newer titles (e.g. G Gen Genesis, available on PS4 with English subs).

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I've finally read the entirety of Tower of God. Ask me anything.

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eating4fun posted...

I've finally read the entirety of Tower of God. Ask me anything.

Damn, I want to finish it but I get a headache nowadays when I read. It's even got me trying to watch dubbed anime. I think I'm at the beginning of the hell train arc.

Anyway, how'd you like it? How many floors do you think there actually are?

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