Board 8 > Jojo Mafia Topic 4: Diamond is Unbreakable

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Leanansidhe posted...

Possessor was literally a scum role two games ago. Doesn't work at all as a town role. Certainly a lie.

Possessor could absolutely work as a town role. If you possessed someone and sent them to player X, and player X died, you could infer that the possessed player was the killer, or if someone was a psychic and they got visited by the possessed player you could infer they have a power. There are things that could be done with the role by town.

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Possessor didnt actually make a player redirect their active power tho
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

I will abstain from voting until Han arrives

I'm catching up, but please don't do this. Shit like this is so Scummy

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HanOfTheNekos posted...

I'm catching up, but please don't do this. Shit like this is so Scummy

It is what it is. Yesterday is the reason I don't try and be a leader. Hell last game you guys saw it too. I will just reserve myself to following the best player.

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Still, you can put votes on without needing me to tell you.

If you just hide and sheep me, then I will vote you.

Anyway, regarding Corrik: guy still didn't lynch somebody who he said was Scum over a person who was close to tied in a train vs them, and stayed on a splinter. This day, with him looking bad, he's just doubled down on that same line of thought.

I am refusing to clear either Corrik or Death here, and still think there's a solid chance they are aligned, and with Red going down so easily, I wouldn't be surprised if the Scum strategy has turned into a bus game to gain some favor.

Of note - Sceptile has pointed towards Damion himself, though unenthusiastically.

tl;dr
We're not lynching Death today. Corrik's methodology ignores the possibility of anybody other than Death being Scum, so we're going to ignore that push for now.
I only thought Scept might be Town because I thought he stealth claimed Yasuho (wtf is Yasuho) but apparently that's false.

##Vote: Damion

We can begin here, though.

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HanOfTheNekos posted...

If you just hide and sheep me, then I will vote you.

If that's what happens then that's what happens. We have essentially bought a mislynch and if it needs to be used for me to atone for my sins then so be it.

##Vote: Damion

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Han go with me on the sceptile train

choo choo

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plum, what do you expect to get out of a Sceptile train at this moment in time?

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Are you fucking kidding me corrik

##vote: corrik

Death shame on you for entertaining that nonsense


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HanOfTheNekos posted...

plum, what do you expect to get out of a Sceptile train at this moment in time?

If every player was as good as you I would agree with your sentiment.

They arent.

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Fastbreak posted...

Are you fucking kidding me corrik

##vote: corrik

Death shame on you for entertaining that nonsense

*coughs*

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Bolt dropper a couple of points for me at start of day because he came a bit on edge considering we lynched scum and had a no kill in the night so I thought he seemed a bit tense in that regard, but I just don't think he and corrik are aligned so I'm dropping him back to town because fugk corrik

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masterplum posted...

*coughs*

What do you want plum

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Its just a silly vote right now. What are you hoping to achieve with it? Retribution?

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Plum, I respect your play and am convinced you are Town. Together, we will bring justice to the senate.

Sceptile has really good odds at being lynched today. He knows it. If he wants to avoid it, he has to make real reads and real plays. If not, I'd rather not put my vote on him and sleep the whole day while we wait for time to run out.

There are two specific other directions I am interested in at the moment. One of those is Damion, who has played similarly to Scept, but hasn't had a train on him for 50% of D1, so I would like to apply pressure to him in this instance.

I kind of don't want to say the other direction at the moment, because that will take momentum away when I make that play.

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Yeah, I understand the sentiment. I dont know if I trust town to mobilize at the end of the day enough for me to be comfortable going on side quests.

But I suppose we can see how it goes for a bit

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masterplum posted...

Its just a silly vote right now. What are you hoping to achieve with it? Retribution?

I'm hoping to achieve corrik getting lynched

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It worked on Red

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I just caught up its where I want to be

Give me votals and if there is an actual plan ill compromise but my compromise is corrik is going to fucking hang this game

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Yeah Corrik is probably scum, but I have seen town Corrik do all of these things before

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Scare, I want your reads of Sceptile, Damion, Death, Sultan, and Puns

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Fastbreak posted...

Are you fucking kidding me corrik

##vote: corrik

Death shame on you for entertaining that nonsense

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Scare, why don't you like me this game, pal?

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Corrik, I want you to put any sort of effort towards literally any player other than Death.

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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Corrik, I want you to put any sort of effort towards literally any player other than Death.

I gave reads on the entire game yesterday.

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It's not yesterday anymore.

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Corrik7 posted...

I gave reads on the entire game yesterday.

Did you?
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Corrik7 posted...

Scummies
death
Red (maybe!)

Buddies
han
Firebolt
Abacus
Chang
Scare
Sultan
Igcd

Corrik7 posted...

Ben. Likelier a scummy
Puns. Likelier a scummy.
Damion. Likelier a buddy.
Sceptile. Eh?
Mzero. Likelier a buddy.
Lea. Eh?

What's really changed? Ben is likelier town now. Puns hasn't changed. Sceptile likelier scum Lea likelier scum. Damien more of an eh? Everyone else is the same. Hasn't been much movement because I was relatively right red was scum.

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Don't lie, you didn't think Red was Scum.

If you did, you would've voted to lynch him over Lea

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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Don't lie, you didn't think Red was Scum.

If you did, you would've voted to lynch him over Lea

I said red was likely scum multiple times.

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Anyway, I appreciate the adjustments but without actual backing, you've still got work to do. Unless your claim is that Death is the ONLY Scum in the game, you should be exploring different directions.

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Corrik7 posted...

I said red was likely scum multiple times.

ah but you didn't want him lynched

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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Anyway, I appreciate the adjustments but without actual backing, you've still got work to do. Unless your claim is that Death is the ONLY Scum in the game, you should be exploring different directions.

I have talked about different people being scum today. I talked about Lea and the likelihood that Sceptile and Lea are paired. I talked about how Lea's vote was trapped in red. I talked about red's interaction with me at the end of the day. I adjusted Ben's alignment based on the end of the day.

I am doing quite plenty.

The fact that you are viewing someone is scum because they aren't vote hopping and because they took a wait and see approach on a lynch that didn't require their vote is silly.

Yes, I told you red was likely scum. I said I felt death was more likelier scum so I left my vote there. This is consistent with my town game how many times that irks Chris to kingdom come. If it had gone to a tie, I would have been forced to make a decision. It didn't. I wasn't relatively unhappy if Lea got lynched either there because her claim was very suspect. I said as much yesterday. I also have Lea likelier as scum today because of how that all unfolded.

It was better to sit back and analyze what happened on the lynch. Without having to make a vote, I am able to analyze more people who did make votes.

I can't say 100% I would have voted red in the moment if it went to a tiebreaker as I started to believe they were both scum towards the end. But, I can tell you I thought red was scum earlier on because he wasn't doing anything. I called him out on it multiple times.

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Okay. Talk to me about Damion and Puns.

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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Scare, I want your reads of Sceptile, Damion, Death, Sultan, and Puns

I was on board with you with scept and damion and them being scummy

I dont see death aligned with corrik so death is town

Sultan I didn't like but now that I look at that its a lot of scum reads to have so he would probably be bottom of my list

I'm okay with puns. I liked his end of day despite what others may say

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Fastbreak posted...

I was on board with you with scept and damion and them being scummy

I dont see death aligned with corrik so death is town

Sultan I didn't like but now that I look at that its a lot of scum reads to have so he would probably be bottom of my list

I'm okay with puns. I liked his end of day despite what others may say

What did Puns do at end of day that there is to like?

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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Okay. Talk to me about Damion and Puns.

Puns has done absolutely nothing at all this game. Usually he is more of an entity as either alignment. But in seems more jarring from a him being a town perspective than scum.

Damion has never been a really active player, and I feel like the entire case on him is less activity than last game, which was an outlier likely to obscure his identity.

I said he was likelier town yesterday, and I am relatively going to stick with that now, but I did not stick to that during the night phase.

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Thank you, Corrik.

I still plan on pressuring Damion and ignoring Death for now. I got a pretty good read of Damion last game, to the point where I thought he was Town before he was lynched, so I am comfortable pushing him until he can show me what he did that last game. Or die!

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I wouldn't mind a Damion claim.

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PunishedBen posted...

What did Puns do at end of day that there is to like?

He followed me on lea, duh

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I think there is an argument that scum puns wouldnt have so brazenly voted Lea at the end

I dont know think thats a good argument, but I would entertain it.

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I think Puns knows it was an incredibly Scummy play, but also, this might be the limit of energy he's willing to put in, so the strategy would be challenging us to believe he would make such a Scummy play as Scum.

Which, I totally believe he could do.


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Votals;
Sceptile - 3 - Plum, Ben, Chang, (Sultan)
Damion - 3 - Sultan, Han, IGCD
Corrik - 2 - Death, (Plum), Scare
Death - 1 - Corrik
Puns - 1 - Lea

9 votes are needed to autolynch. Day ends in approx. 27 hours, 30 minutes.
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Sup

Stop worrying about me guys, unless you're scum or whatever

I was playing in a diplomacy tournament til midnight last night then I spent the next few hours watching back the live commentary over said tournament, then slept til the late afternoon

What's happened

Hi Lea do I nees to go dig up your posts or do you wanna just rehash it here

I just realized Corrik didnt even unvote me.
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htaeD posted...

I just realized Corrik didnt even unvote me.

Very astute, my man.

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turbopuns3 posted...

Sup

Stop worrying about me guys, unless you're scum or whatever

I was playing in a diplomacy tournament til midnight last night then I spent the next few hours watching back the live commentary over said tournament, then slept til the late afternoon

What's happened

That wasn't canceled?

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