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TheRock1525
08/20/20 1:31:28 AM
#51:


Harvey Dent.... can we trust him?

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StealThisSheen
08/20/20 1:36:22 AM
#52:


Harvey! Where did you go?! Two-Face is back, and he looks SUPER pissed.

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TheRock1525
08/20/20 1:38:51 AM
#53:


Oh good, Harvey, you're back. Use that gun on Two-Face the next time you see him.

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LordoftheMorons
08/20/20 1:43:55 AM
#54:


Russian opposition leader likely poisoned on a flight:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53844958

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Mr Lasastryke
08/20/20 7:00:33 AM
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KamikazePotato posted...
Surprised people here are dismissing him so quickly when Republicans refusing to vote for Trump is usually a pipe dream. Isn't this exactly what we want?

that's two different things.

yes, it's a good thing that stuart isn't voting for trump. it's also good that bolton isn't voting for trump.

no, stuart isn't not an asshole just because he went "i got the most republicans elected ever whoops sorry" in one interview.

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Mr Lasastryke
08/20/20 7:03:32 AM
#56:


Grimlyn posted...
https://twitter.com/GOP/status/1296282590979268610

they're still trying to make strawgate a thing

i like how they're flat out stating that the dems were NOT left-wing before this "takeover." they're implicitly admitting that politics in the US is so slanted to the right that both of the major parties are on the right.

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GentlemanGamer
08/20/20 8:11:39 AM
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I don't think it is good that John Bolton isn't voting for Trump. I definitely don't think it is good that people like Colin Powell are voting for Biden. This doesn't make me think that these horrible individuals have changed, because they have not. It makes me think the Joe Biden will be right wing economically, and imperialist in foreign policy, which is what makes them appealing to these people.
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LordoftheMorons
08/20/20 8:13:56 AM
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GentlemanGamer posted...
I don't think it is good that John Bolton isn't voting for Trump. I definitely don't think it is good that people like Colin Powell are voting for Biden. This doesn't make me think that these horrible individuals have changed, because they have not. It makes me think the Joe Biden will be right wing economically, and imperialist in foreign policy, which is what makes them appealing to these people.
Or maybe, and I know this sounds crazy so stick with me here, some people are capable of voting for someone who they disagree with on most issues if the alternative is an absolute lunatic who has let 170000 Americans die on his watch and still thinks that he's the biggest victim of the pandemic.

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GentlemanGamer
08/20/20 8:17:45 AM
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I don't see what voting for Biden, or thinking he is the better choice has to do with the fact that is is absolutely a bad sign that lunatics like Bolton and Powell are voting for him. That is incredibly a bad sign to anyone who knows anything about those men.
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Mr Lasastryke
08/20/20 8:21:59 AM
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GentlemanGamer posted...
This doesn't make me think that these horrible individuals have changed, because they have not. It makes me think the Joe Biden will be right wing economically, and imperialist in foreign policy, which is what makes them appealing to these people.

yeah, this is what i'm trying to say. if a bad person votes for - or refuses to vote for - a candidate, i think that often says more about the candidate than the voter. not always, but often.

like, when sephyg called himself "the biggest trump hater on the board," i didn't think "oh wow he recognizes how terrible trump is, maybe sephy's not so bad after all." if anything, this IMPROVED my opinion of trump at the time. it made me think "well if sephy hates trump this much, trump is probably doing SOMETHING right."

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Maniac64
08/20/20 8:25:04 AM
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GentlemanGamer posted...
I don't see what voting for Biden, or thinking he is the better choice has to do with the fact that is is absolutely a bad sign that lunatics like Bolton and Powell are voting for him. That is incredibly a bad sign to anyone who knows anything about those men.
You must have missed where Bolton isnt voting for Biden. He made that very clear that he wont't support Biden. So no bad sign there, heck you'd probably call it a good sign that Bolton refuses to vote Biden even when he hates Trump.

He just also wont vote for Trump.

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GentlemanGamer
08/20/20 8:27:21 AM
#62:


Maniac64 posted...
You must have missed where Bolton isnt voting for Biden. He made that very clear that he wont't support Biden. So no bad sign there, heck you'd probably call it a good sign that Bolton refuses to vote Biden even when he hates Trump.

He just also wont vote for Trump.

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LordoftheMorons
08/20/20 8:40:36 AM
#63:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
yeah, this is what i'm trying to say. if a bad person votes for - or refuses to vote for - a candidate, i think that often says more about the candidate than the voter. not always, but often.

like, when sephyg called himself "the biggest trump hater on the board," i didn't think "oh wow he recognizes how terrible trump is, maybe sephy's not so bad after all." if anything, this IMPROVED my opinion of trump at the time. it made me think "well if sephy hates trump this much, trump is probably doing SOMETHING right."
Maybe the fact that Trump does not, in fact, have any redeeming qualities as a president should make you rethink this logic!

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Peace___Frog
08/20/20 8:41:29 AM
#64:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
yeah, this is what i'm trying to say. if a bad person votes for - or refuses to vote for - a candidate, i think that often says more about the candidate than the voter. not always, but often.

like, when sephyg called himself "the biggest trump hater on the board," i didn't think "oh wow he recognizes how terrible trump is, maybe sephy's not so bad after all." if anything, this IMPROVED my opinion of trump at the time. it made me think "well if sephy hates trump this much, trump is probably doing SOMETHING right."
The fact that you are taking seph at his word on anything is enough to show that your thought process is flawed.

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Mr Lasastryke
08/20/20 8:44:57 AM
#65:


for clarity's sake, i only thought that for a very brief period of time.

after that quote, seph did nothing but praise trump and i'm pretty sure he called him a top 5 president of all time by the time he nominated gorsuch so yeah >_>

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Peace___Frog
08/20/20 8:45:56 AM
#66:


Ok, thank you for the clarification lol

As far as the current discussion goes, I think that in elections with only two real choices it's foolish to base your opinion of a candidate on how others react to the candidate.

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kevwaffles
08/20/20 9:03:01 AM
#67:


TheRock1525 posted...
Oh good, Harvey, you're back. Use that gun on Two-Face the next time you see him.

It's "Use that gun you're holding next time Two-Face shows his faces!"
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Mr Lasastryke
08/20/20 9:03:45 AM
#68:


i think sephy is a good illustration of the point i'm trying to make, though. i agree that most of what he says is just trolling bullshit but the shit he said about trump makes total sense if you know him.

seph said he was pleasantly surprised trump turned out to be so fiscally conservative. seph passionately hates presidents who do anything that helps the poor in the slightest. during the campaign, he hated trump because he thought trump would turn out to be such a president (probably because he said he'd "look into bernie's plan" and shit like that). after becoming president, it very quickly became clear that trump wasn't going to be such a president so he went from being a trump hater to a trump lover.

had seph been consistent and would he have remained stating that he's "the biggest trump hater on the board," i probably still wouldn't have liked trump but my opinion of trump would have improved considerably. it wouldn't have improved my opinion of seph. i'm 100% certain seph is never, ever going to have empathy for the poor, so my opinion of him is never going to improve.

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TheRock1525
08/20/20 9:12:19 AM
#69:


kevwaffles posted...
It's "Use that gun you're holding next time Two-Face shows his faces!"
Full disclosure... it's kinda been a crazy day, and this suit is really hot. I kind of go in and out.

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Dancedreamer
08/20/20 9:22:45 AM
#70:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
yeah, this is what i'm trying to say. if a bad person votes for - or refuses to vote for - a candidate, i think that often says more about the candidate than the voter. not always, but often.

I don't think it says much about either.

Joe Rogan is a bad person. He supported Bernie Sanders. I didn't think less of Bernie because Joe Rogan was voting for him. Nor did I think more of Joe for voting for Bernie Sanders. (I did think Bernie shouldn't have touted his endorsement the way he did.)

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Mr Lasastryke
08/20/20 9:37:19 AM
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i think rogan is a different case, though, because he's not politically principled at all for the most part. yeah, now he "supports bernie sanders" but when gary johnson comes on his show, he's suddenly a fucking full blown libertarian.

but when a principled bad person supports bernie, it could affect my view of bernie. depends on what their reasoning for supporting bernie is.

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GuessMyUserName
08/20/20 9:42:21 AM
#72:


https://twitter.com/Tom_Winter/status/1296440877620109317

BREAKING / NBC News: Former advisor to President Trump, Steve Bannon, and four others have been indicted for illegally funneling money from the "We Build The Wall" fund.

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Dancedreamer
08/20/20 9:57:54 AM
#73:


Maybe it's because I'm originally from NY and I knew too much about Donald Trump before he ever took office that I couldn't think more of him based on anything anyone said. He's a fraud, a phoney, and a fake. He's a con-artist. That's all he ever was. I think a lot of people knew this before the election, then threw it out the window as soon as he became their con-artist. As long as it gets them more judges, they don't give two fucks. They'll support him no matter what he does. He could rip the constitution up and declare himself dictator for life and the Republicans voting for him would applaud. Winning is all that matters.

Those who refuse to vote for him because of how dangerous he is, I'd say i think a little more of them. Not a lot, mind you. I don't suddenly think the people at the Lincoln Project are good people. But I'd think a lot less of them if they were unprincipled and voted Trump in hopes of putting their policies in place.

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ChaosTonyV4
08/20/20 10:35:13 AM
#74:


Dancedreamer posted...
I don't think it says much about either.

Joe Rogan is a bad person. He supported Bernie Sanders. I didn't think less of Bernie because Joe Rogan was voting for him. Nor did I think more of Joe for voting for Bernie Sanders. (I did think Bernie shouldn't have touted his endorsement the way he did.)

Joe Rogan is a bad person? Wut


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Jakyl25
08/20/20 11:03:46 AM
#75:


You seen his COVID takes?
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Dancedreamer
08/20/20 11:05:02 AM
#76:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Joe Rogan is a bad person? Wut

Homophobic, Transphobic, Sexist, racist. Also friends with Alex Jones, and is perfectly fine with Trump as President. So yeah, he's a bad person.

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Forceful_Dragon
08/20/20 11:07:34 AM
#77:


Joe Rogan is like how water takes the shape of it's container.

He will occasionally have GOOD people on his podcast and he will appear to agree with them and it's a good thing that his platform helps to give them a voice.

But then he also has BAD people on his podcast and agrees with them too, or he makes it clear that his own preferences slant towards awful on a variety of topics.

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Peace___Frog
08/20/20 11:08:33 AM
#78:


Rogan is shit.

You know who else is shit?

Steve Bannon, another criminal associated with the Trump campaign, indicted on charges of fraud.

https://twitter.com/margbrennan/status/1296445655699918857

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xp1337
08/20/20 11:13:41 AM
#79:


by the postal service no less

it's all connected

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TotallyNotMI
08/20/20 11:19:37 AM
#80:


Can... can postal service employees make arrests??

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Dancedreamer
08/20/20 11:23:09 AM
#81:


TotallyNotMI posted...
Can... can postal service employees make arrests??

Yes. They are sworn federal agents.

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PerfectChaosZ
08/20/20 11:37:56 AM
#82:


If your occasionally a bad person you cant really be a good person, can you? Like these other guys; its great they arent voting for Trump but you shouldnt really get praised for doing the bad thing for years and suddenly not doing the bad thing. Tell me when they start doing good things and Ill praise them. Thats the problem in this topic; they think the people who didnt automatically praise them are gonna stop people from what, ever turning from Trump? They need to be constantly praised for even the slightest actions or theyll start crying and run back to his arms? They have to have constant reassurance or theyll do bad things and they call the left special snowflakes.
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xp1337
08/20/20 11:44:30 AM
#83:


TotallyNotMI posted...
Can... can postal service employees make arrests??
man forget that

they arrested bannon on board a boat

they have a navy

(i don't believe they have a navy)

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Mr Lasastryke
08/20/20 11:56:57 AM
#84:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Joe Rogan is a bad person? Wut

i know you like rogan but come on. by now, you should know he's not exactly popular in this topic >_>

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TotallyNotMI
08/20/20 11:58:50 AM
#85:


Dancedreamer posted...
Yes. They are sworn federal agents.
Like...

The person who brings me my mail everyday? She could arrest me?

I can't wrap my head around this.

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TotallyNotMI
08/20/20 11:59:10 AM
#86:


xp1337 posted...
man forget that

they arrested bannon on board a boat

they have a navy

(i don't believe they have a navy)
This is wild.

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Dancedreamer
08/20/20 12:05:17 PM
#87:


TotallyNotMI posted...
The person who brings me my mail everyday? She could arrest me?

No. Postal Inspectors can arrest people.

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neonreaper
08/20/20 12:05:23 PM
#88:


mail carriers arent the same as their inspection agents, so its not what youre thinking. Still funny though

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Forceful_Dragon
08/20/20 12:06:20 PM
#89:


TotallyNotMI posted...
Like...

The person who brings me my mail everyday? She could arrest me?

I can't wrap my head around this.

yeah idk. I was also sworn in when I was hired. I don't know that this gives me the ability to arrest people. But if the post office has official "agents" who are tasked to enforce laws then I can see where that would be different.

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UshiromiyaEva
08/20/20 12:10:38 PM
#90:


My YouTube is being flooded with Pro Trump ads, and when I check my setting it says it's because I live in Georgia.

This sucks.

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xp1337
08/20/20 12:23:12 PM
#91:


TotallyNotMI posted...
Like...

The person who brings me my mail everyday? She could arrest me?

I can't wrap my head around this.
well prepare for your mind to be blown

they have (had?) a saturday morning tv show

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCjG78McFxQ

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Suprak the Stud
08/20/20 12:28:24 PM
#92:


You sound worried MI.

You will finally get your comeuppance for your great stamp heist all those years back.

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ChaosTonyV4
08/20/20 12:30:57 PM
#93:


Dancedreamer posted...
Homophobic, Transphobic, Sexist, racist. Also friends with Alex Jones, and is perfectly fine with Trump as President. So yeah, he's a bad person.

You could say hes transphobic because of his view on combat sports, but the rest of that is totally wrong (minus being friends with Alex Jones).

In Alex Jones case, he literally wouldnt let Alex onto his show unless Alex denounced his school shooting truther-ism.

Mr Lasastryke posted...
i know you like rogan but come on. by now, you should know he's not exactly popular in this topic >_>

lol of course I do, as the only person whos ever paid attention to him, its basically required that Im his defender

Anyway, as far as the bad people he has on, he had Shapiro on recently and embarrassed him pretty badly by explaining systemic racism to him like he was a child (and arguing against him, saying he was wrong!)

It was good to see

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Peace___Frog
08/20/20 12:44:40 PM
#94:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
My YouTube is being flooded with Pro Trump ads, and when I check my setting it says it's because I live in Georgia.

This sucks.
Same, but when I tried to check my settings it didn't point to any one thing in particular. Only things I can think of are that I'm an unmarried, childless male between 25 and 34 who watches videos about cooking and gaming.

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UshiromiyaEva
08/20/20 12:48:42 PM
#95:


I even turn off target ads and they still don't go away.

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DoomTheGyarados
08/20/20 12:50:25 PM
#96:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
I even turn off target ads and they still don't go away.

Means they are wasting money!

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TheRock1525
08/20/20 12:51:38 PM
#97:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
I even turn off target ads and they still don't go away.
Maybe it turned off the wrong Target.

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Mr Lasastryke
08/20/20 1:05:18 PM
#98:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Anyway, as far as the bad people he has on, he had Shapiro on recently and embarrassed him pretty badly by explaining systemic racism to him like he was a child (and arguing against him, saying he was wrong!)

It was good to see

that's pretty cool tbqh.

if rogan invites assholes on and calls them out on their bullshit (which he sometimes does), i'm fine with him. i have a problem with him when he's not being critical at all or even agrees with them.

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Mr Lasastryke
08/20/20 1:10:42 PM
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that being said, was that the THIRD time rogan has had shapiro on the show? >_>

seriously don't get why he likes hanging out with assholes like alex jones and shapiro so much.

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HeroDelTiempo17
08/20/20 2:47:41 PM
#100:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
that being said, was that the THIRD time rogan has had shapiro on the show? >_>

seriously don't get why he likes hanging out with assholes like alex jones and shapiro so much.

Maybe because they get a shitload of views, have some amount of overlapping fanbases, and we are talking about three multimillionaire podcast hosts who enjoy making more money?

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