Board 8 > Fuck 2020 Mafia: Topic 1 - Stop The Votals!

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Fastbreak
11/16/20 1:00:29 PM
#351:


Crescent has never read me correctly and when she's wrong she immediately pretends it never happened so have fun with that

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Fastbreak
11/16/20 1:01:05 PM
#352:


Make Mafia Great Again

Vote Chris

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MajinZidane
11/16/20 1:01:42 PM
#353:


I personally went into this game planning to vote Chris day 1 asap myself, so how can I fault a guy for doing the same thing

I decided against it, ultimately, but still!

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Fastbreak
11/16/20 1:02:28 PM
#354:


MajinZidane posted...
I personally went into this game planning to vote Chris day 1 asap myself, so how can I fault a guy for doing the same thing

I decided against it, ultimately, but still!

See unlike you I am a man of conviction my friend and I follow through on my dumb pre game plans

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htaeD
11/16/20 1:03:53 PM
#355:


What?
That stuff about the cardinals?
I just like being a nice guy.
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masterplum
11/16/20 1:06:13 PM
#356:


Aecioo posted...
Im sorry, but is your argument that because he posts scummy stuff in all the games we should ignore him being scummy in this one?

Yes

because obviously people are wrong every time and so the things you think he is doing that are scummy are not actually scummy

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Dark Young Link
11/16/20 1:07:34 PM
#357:


Alright...

Fastbreak posted...
Scum: death

Townie: lea, johnbobb, battle, red

Lynching: Chris

Scare, could you explain... all of this? Why do you have these respective people as your reads, and why are you trying to policy lynch Chris despite Death being your sole scum read?

htaeD posted...
I feel like scum would be more likely to watch that video than town, since it would give them an excuse to not be focused on playing the game for 38 minutes.

It was less than ten minutes until 11:00 pm. If I wanted an excuse to not play the game, I could have just not posted and said I fell asleep. Easier than watching a video and making a very brief summary about it.

Boko making a post similar to what pj posted, coming in and worrying about being several topics behind. Not a fan of it. Compare that to Tange who at least makes an actual comment about the actual game.

Not sure what to make of Aecioo's vote on me. It seems... late? Like he could have voted me a lot earlier if he thought I was scum, but choose now? But no one else voted on me so it doesn't quite feel like a sheep vote.

Not feeling hb's vote on Plum. Feels rather kneejerky, and not focused on going after scum. Did Plum's post of "DYL is an easy mislynch" really make him more scummy in your eyes than me?


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Fastbreak
11/16/20 1:09:37 PM
#358:


Oh the scum wall is here, and he even defended death in it

Fun

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Dark Young Link
11/16/20 1:12:13 PM
#359:


Fastbreak posted...
he even defended death

In what way?

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turbopuns3
11/16/20 1:12:14 PM
#360:


Crescent I feel like you can figure out the answer to that question yourself, but I'll play along. my vote is still on ben because it just is. because I haven't had a full free minute to sit and read yet since passing out last night
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Fastbreak
11/16/20 1:13:42 PM
#362:


Dark Young Link posted...
In what way?
Its too late, you're tied at the hip scum buds

Vote chris to save face if you want, but everyone saw it

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Dark Young Link
11/16/20 1:14:09 PM
#363:


(Also holy shit you think that's a fucking wall? Have you forgotten what DYL walls were like? I was like the Native American of using character limits in my posts back then.)

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Fastbreak
11/16/20 1:14:11 PM
#364:


Leanansidhe posted...
You know it's still scummy even if you hang a lampshade on it, right? I had barely posted when you called me town. J'accuse.

You told me to keep my shirt off, I can't not scum read you okay

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Fastbreak
11/16/20 1:14:52 PM
#365:


Fastbreak posted...
You told me to keep my shirt off, I can't not scum read you okay

As in I cannot read you as scum once you do that. Words

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Fastbreak
11/16/20 1:15:43 PM
#367:


Dark Young Link posted...
(Also holy shit you think that's a fucking wall? Have you forgotten what DYL walls were like? I was like the Native American of using character limits in my posts back then.)

Using italics to denote you need to post this out of character confirms that you're scum and have to pull back the curtain to address that you pulled back

Thank you for this scare talk, sorry you got got

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Dark Young Link
11/16/20 1:15:44 PM
#368:


No Scare, enough of your bullshit.

I want you to explain your list.

I want you to point out how I "defended" Death in any way.


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Johnbobb
11/16/20 1:16:28 PM
#369:




masterplum posted...
I didn't think it was necessary to do a harder defense of DYL, but if you insist

Lynching people who are mislynches often as town is stupid and a sure sign of someone who is absolutely terrible at mafia. He is an easy target. If you vote him for what he has said so far means you are either scum or bad at mafia
Hbthebattle posted...
"If you point out that a player who has been acting scummy is acting scummy, you are scum or bad"


ugh quoting multiple responses is annoying now

anyway I kinda agree with plum's argument here

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Fastbreak
11/16/20 1:17:00 PM
#370:


Everyone saw it. Your post was rigged and everyone knows it

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Crescent-Moon
11/16/20 1:17:11 PM
#371:


Fastbreak posted...
Oh the scum wall is here, and he even defended death in it

Fun
That wasn't a wall and he didn't defend Death. You never elaborated on your suspicions when asked. You didn't actually read his post if you took that as a defense of Death.

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Dark Young Link
11/16/20 1:19:08 PM
#372:


##Unvote
##Vote: Scare

So Scare is scum.

Has a list with no explanation.
Useless vote that is accomplishing absolutely nothing.
Making up falsehoods about me instead of actually addressing what I said.

Better luck next year Scare.

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htaeD
11/16/20 1:26:32 PM
#373:


Fastbreak posted...
Everyone saw it. Your post was rigged and everyone knows it


Are you claiming trump then?
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Crescent-Moon
11/16/20 1:28:43 PM
#376:


Dark Young Chris

Lord save us all.

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dowolf
11/16/20 1:30:07 PM
#377:


Hbthebattle posted...

"If you point out that a player who has been acting scummy is acting scummy, you are scum or bad"
#Unvote
#Vote: Plum

##Vote: HB

I was like the Native American of using character limits in my posts back then.


What does that even mean?
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dowolf
11/16/20 1:30:40 PM
#378:


whoa when did they get rid of quote chains with the quote button?

Sadness.
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masterplum
11/16/20 1:31:18 PM
#379:


htaeD posted...
Are you claiming trump then?

No. Bad

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Fastbreak
11/16/20 1:32:37 PM
#380:


htaeD posted...
Are you claiming trump then?

Look at this scum role fishing

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Dark Young Link
11/16/20 1:35:26 PM
#381:


Crescent-Moon posted...
Dark Young Chris

Lord save us all.

Oh if I was as good as Chris but still had my lack of impulse control... Horrifying.

dowolf posted...


What does that even mean?

It means I used every character, every part of the post(animal). I often had to break my posts up.

So scare going "omg wall" falls flat. He's played games with me before, he knows what a DYL wall is actually like.

But that's not as important as the other shit he's done or hasn't done.

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Hbthebattle
11/16/20 1:39:48 PM
#382:


dowolf posted...
##Vote: HB
We got a live one, gang! Funny how three of the scum just decided to drop into our laps :^)

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Crescent-Moon
11/16/20 1:47:52 PM
#383:


Hbthebattle posted...
We got a live one, gang! Funny how three of the scum just decided to drop into our laps :^)
Do you have reasons beyond "he voted for me"?

htaeD posted... Nope.
and
I dont even know what the Cardinals are..

htaeD posted...
I am starting to connect the dots that this is related to sports and unfortunate outcomes.

Well uhm.. cheer up Dowolf! I am sure they'll win again some other time?
Ok, looked it up myself since Scare wouldn't answer. These are the only posts Death has made related to Dowolf

It feels *maybe* slightly weird but I also don't have enough frame of reference to make any sort of read based on this. To be sure Death is scum based on this does feel like overblowing what actually happened.

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Hbthebattle
11/16/20 1:52:39 PM
#384:


Crescent-Moon posted...
Do you have reasons beyond "he voted for me"?
That was partially a joke, but anyone coming in after doing effectively nothing with a no-explanation vote is suspicious.


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Crescent-Moon
11/16/20 1:55:07 PM
#385:


Hbthebattle posted...
That was partially a joke, but anyone coming in after doing effectively nothing with a no-explanation vote is suspicious.
Fair.

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htaeD
11/16/20 1:57:06 PM
#386:


DYLs reaction feels a bit over the top for me, though he is mostly right in that I have no idea what Scare is talking about.
He sorta gave more on me, but that didn't clear up much.

I also entirely disagree with your reasoning on why you dont want DYL to be voted/lynched, Plum.
I mean yes it can be unfun to always get lynched, but that shouldnt completely influence the way we read or treat a player.
Also if you didnt think DYL was town, why did you say 'I dont like mislynches?'
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masterplum
11/16/20 2:11:15 PM
#387:


htaeD posted...


Also if you didnt think DYL was town, why did you say 'I dont like mislynches?'

Math

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htaeD
11/16/20 2:20:38 PM
#388:


What a Corrik thing to say.
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dowolf
11/16/20 2:23:49 PM
#389:


Crescent-Moon posted...
Ok, looked it up myself since Scare wouldn't answer. These are the only posts Death has made related to Dowolf

It feels *maybe* slightly weird but I also don't have enough frame of reference to make any sort of read based on this. To be sure Death is scum based on this does feel like overblowing what actually happened.

i'd really hope most people haven't made a post about me already.

attention leads to fear, fear leads to anger, and anger leads to mislynching.
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masterplum
11/16/20 2:27:30 PM
#390:


I mean if we roll dice there's what, a 28% chance of scum day 1 on average?

So lynching someone I have no opinion on is most likely a mislynch

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DoomTheGyarados
11/16/20 2:28:16 PM
#391:


HB is probably town. This occurred to me because what type of sick mafia member posts a 38 minute video.

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htaeD
11/16/20 2:29:01 PM
#392:


I am starting to remember you saying stuff like this before.

But do you still not have an opinion on DYL?
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DoubleTangicide
11/16/20 2:29:48 PM
#393:


masterplum posted...
I mean if we roll dice there's what, a 28% chance of scum day 1 on average?


I hate this line of thinking. Also, how do you know how many scum there are as to know the percentages here?


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masterplum
11/16/20 2:30:58 PM
#394:


htaeD posted...
I am starting to remember you saying stuff like this before.

But do you still not have an opinion on DYL?

I got way better at mafia when I accepted that day 1 reads are not my thing.

So no.

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DoomTheGyarados
11/16/20 2:31:17 PM
#395:


DoubleTangicide posted...
I hate this line of thinking. Also, how do you know how many scum there are as to know the percentages here?

You hate the fact that we shouldn't recklessly lynch day 1? Also 28% is a rough average.

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masterplum
11/16/20 2:31:46 PM
#396:


DoubleTangicide posted...
I hate this line of thinking. Also, how do you know how many scum there are as to know the percentages here?

It's been reviewed as a setup so it's between 25 and 33

I just picked a middle number >_>

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Hbthebattle
11/16/20 2:32:49 PM
#397:


masterplum posted...
I mean if we roll dice there's what, a 28% chance of scum day 1 on average?

So lynching someone I have no opinion on is most likely a mislynch
This does not fit with how you acted as if anyone who suspects DYL is either scum or bad. If you have no opinion on DYL and only want him not being the lynch target because of averages, why strike at those looking into him so strongly? There's a huge disconnect here.

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masterplum
11/16/20 2:35:10 PM
#398:


Hbthebattle posted...
This does not fit with how you acted as if anyone who suspects DYL is either scum or bad. If you have no opinion on DYL and only want him not being the lynch target because of averages, why strike at those looking into him so strongly? There's a huge disconnect here.

Because people who thought they knew DYLs alignment at that point are dumb. I can count on one hand the players I would remotely respect a 200 post in read on a player, and even those players I wouldn't take that read as gospel.

Everyone else "sure" DYL is scum is either lying or completely delusional about their mafia abilities

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DoomTheGyarados
11/16/20 2:36:04 PM
#399:


Plum/Tange are never scum together with that interaction tbh

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DoomTheGyarados
11/16/20 2:38:30 PM
#400:


masterplum posted...
Because people who thought they knew DYLs alignment at that point are dumb. I can count on one hand the players I would remotely respect a 200 post in read on a player, and even those players I wouldn't take that read as gospel.

Everyone else "sure" DYL is scum is either lying or completely delusional about their mafia abilities

I feel like this misses the point though. It doesn't do a lot of good to ego check a read half the day in, the point of those reads is largely to make waves in the game to see what happens. Even a day 1 mislynch is ok in theory if it makes the correct waves to solve the game.

No need to be so risk adverse 24 hours in, Plum.


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