Current Events > Who was it that said Yakuza 3 is the worst?

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I actually didn't mind 3 at all. I'm at the end of 4 and I feel like 4 has the weakest story so far. It's the only one that didn't make me tear up so far. Also some fights are extremely annoying especially getting chain-grabbed. And holy shit, Tanimura's final fight is pure fucking trash. Yes I know you're supposed to parry the guards, but between chain grabs and getting shot, it's extremely annoying. I actually just had to switch to easy mode for the first time in the series. Although I definitely did not come prepared with items lol.

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people dont like the slow beginning, or the combat. I love the beginning, but 3's combat is undoubtedly the worst in the series. unnecessarily frustrating

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Never played, but I did watch the Trigun series for the first time ever earlier this month and now understand your username lol

yes, I did in fact feel compelled to post this

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someone who has never played kiwami 1

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the original 3 was awful, if you're playing the remaster ver then obv its better

ultimate reaver posted...

someone who has never played kiwami 1

This. The refilling health that bosses do is a huge load of bullshit.

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RedJackson posted...

Never played, but I did watch the Trigun series for the first time ever earlier this month and now understand your username lol

yes, I did in fact feel compelled to post this

Lol! It's my favorite anime of all time, but it might be the nostalgia at this point. I made this username back in 2003 when I was 12.

mcpwnia posted...

people dont like the slow beginning, or the combat. I love the beginning, but 3's combat is undoubtedly the worst in the series. unnecessarily frustrating

This is how I feel about 4 with the fucking chain grabs. Akiyama is beast though.

Monolith1676 posted...

This. The refilling health that bosses do is a huge load of bullshit.

There's definitely this in Y4 lol.

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Bump for daytime CE

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I hated the gameplay and I legit forget the story.

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mcpwnia posted...

people dont like the slow beginning, or the combat. I love the beginning, but 3's combat is undoubtedly the worst in the series. unnecessarily frustrating

This.

Reis posted...

the original 3 was awful, if you're playing the remaster ver then obv its better

And this.

I'm not a huge fan of the story, myself. Kiryu being World's Greatest Dad is awesome, but any of the Okinawa based enemies are just lame. Except for the last enemy, even the Tokyo-based bad guys aren't all that great.

That said, I don't think Y3 is the worst. I think it's a toss-up between Kiwami and 6.

And even then, I don't rate any Yakuza game below a 7/10. So "worst" is relative.

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Wow, I didn't realize 6 wasn't highly favored. I've actually been looking forward to 6 the most. Mostly for Virtua Fighter 5 haha. But I'm ready to get back to a more modern Yakuza.

That one scene in Yakuza 3 where Rikiya dies and Kiryu crying over it hit me so hard. I accidentally found out it was coming by looking at his profile on Fandom to find his age and seeing "deceased" next to his name and that Y3 was the only appearance. But damn did it still hit me so hard. He was one of my favorites.

I'm a little surprised more people didn't find Y4's chain grabbing so annoying. Maybe it existed in other games and I just never noticed, but I swear it feels so much worse in this game. I've literally gotten chain grabbed by 3 enemies in a row before I could move out of the away. As in I broke out of one just to immediately get grabbed again by a different enemy.

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Legato-and-Vash posted...

I actually didn't mind 3 at all. I'm at the end of 4 and I feel like 4 has the weakest story so far. It's the only one that didn't make me tear up so far. Also some fights are extremely annoying especially getting chain-grabbed. And holy shit, Tanimura's final fight is pure fucking trash. Yes I know you're supposed to parry the guards, but between chain grabs and getting shot, it's extremely annoying. I actually just had to switch to easy mode for the first time in the series. Although I definitely did not come prepared with items lol.

3 was really boring to me. The gameplay is clunky and I hated the plot. 4 introduces Akiyama who is one of my favorite characters in the entire series so I rank it higher. Having the game take place in 4 different cities was cool too. 4's plot is kind of messy, especially in the second half but overall it was more interesting than what we got in 3.
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3 starts slow but I liked it a lot. So far out of them all I would actually say 4 may be one of the weakest. It just gets fucking ridiculous. I hated Kiwami 1 for some of the horrendous balancing issues it has.

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Legato-and-Vash posted...

That one scene in Yakuza 3

Oh yeah, that does hit so hard and no mistake.

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YookaLaylee posted...

3 was really boring to me. The gameplay is clunky and I hated the plot. 4 introduces Akiyama who is one of my favorite characters in the entire series so I rank it higher. Having the game take place in 4 different cities was cool too. 4's plot is kind of messy, especially in the second half but overall it was more interesting than what we got in 3.

4 takes place almost entirely in Kamurocho, you're thinking of 5

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Akiyama I agree is also an amazing character. Definitely a strong point for how 4 starts out.

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mcpwnia posted...

4 takes place almost entirely in Kamurocho, you're thinking of 5

Oh lmao
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I appreciate people using spoiler tags here. Playing through 3 Remastered right now, but was interested to hear what people thought.

Not sure what the difference were between the original and the remaster, but it's been great so fat. The story is slow and is basically building to one singular payoff. The villians come across like Gold/Silver Team Rocket. They are just leftovers from you ruling ass the first two games. Still, I think it's a great game. I also loved 0, Kiwami, and Kiwami 2. This is probably the weakest one because of the combat (bosses never stop blocking), but it's still a real solid entry. If this is the worst one, then I'm going to be happy with the series.

KlownArt posted...

If this is the worst one, then I'm going to be happy with the series.

This was my exact thought process playing through Y3 since I actually enjoyed it lol. Akiyama is the best thing about Y4 in my opinion. Absolutely amazing character. But I think the beginning is actually the game's high point.

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Legato-and-Vash posted...

This was my exact thought process playing through Y3 since I actually enjoyed it lol. Akiyama is the best thing about Y4 in my opinion. Absolutely amazing character. But I think the beginning is actually the game's high point.

Agreed completely. It slows down considerably after that. One thing I liked about 4 is how it really makes Kiryu feel like he's on top of his game. He is the last character you play as, and has a ton of the low level abilities already filled out and he has his ultimate attacks at the ready. You play as him and feel like it's time to end this shit once and for all. I loved it.

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tbh, I didn't like Yakuza 3, at all, but I liked Yakuzas 4 & 5 even less.

I haven't played the Kiwamis or Y6, though.

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KlownArt posted...

This is probably the weakest one because of the combat (bosses never stop blocking), but it's still a real solid entry.

That's exactly how I felt. The blocking was ridiculous and made fights drawn out so much.

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I love 3. The orphanage storyline is one my favorite parts of the series.

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Kaldrenthebold posted...

Agreed completely. It slows down considerably after that. One thing I liked about 4 is how it really makes Kiryu feel like he's on top of his game. He is the last character you play as, and has a ton of the low level abilities already filled out and he has his ultimate attacks at the ready. You play as him and feel like it's time to end this shit once and for all. I loved it.

I had that exact feeling when I opened the skills. And the dialogue from the final fight with him drove that point even further.

BlazinBlue88 posted...

That's exactly how I felt. The blocking was ridiculous and made fights drawn out so much.

I can't remember for sure, but I feel like the quickstep into the jab usually worked.

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Legato-and-Vash posted...

I can't remember for sure, but I feel like the quickstep into the jab usually worked.

It does but it's still very slow. Only 1-2 jabs before they start blocking again. Get a couple jabs here and there until you have enough heat for a weak heat action. Rinse and repeat.

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BlazinBlue88 posted...

It does but it's still very slow. Only 1-2 jabs before they start blocking again. Get a couple jabs here and there until you have enough heat for a weak heat action. Rinse and repeat.

I actually looked it up because the blocking was absurd in 3. Every enemy had the same tactic: block the first 3 then attack. So you would attack 3 times, then dodge and get behind them to make sure you can do the full combo. This was easily abuseable for the entirety of the game. 4 definitely fixed a lot of the issues the combat had in 3.

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3 is so bad that I skip it.

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Kaldrenthebold posted...

I actually looked it up because the blocking was absurd in 3. Every enemy had the same tactic: block the first 3 then attack. So you would attack 3 times, then dodge and get behind them to make sure you can do the full combo. This was easily abuseable for the entirety of the game. 4 definitely fixed a lot of the issues the combat had in 3.

I must have figured this out myself while playing, because I honestly don't remember the blocking being so bad in Y3 and I do vaguely recall dodging behind enemies constantly. Definitely also remember it not working that well in Y4. I found Y4's AI much more annoying.

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i just finished 3 (Remaster) for the first time and I agree about the combat being the worst so far. but this is also my first time playing on the 'original' engine because i started with 0 then Kiwami 1 & 2.

i found the story rather endearing, though, because i love Kiryu so much.

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ultimate reaver posted...

someone who has never played kiwami 1

the boss fight at the end of the game with the 2 knife bosses and the gun boss is the most annoying fight of my entire life.

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Having played 0, Kiwami and Kiwami 2 next, starting 3 made me realize the difference between PS3 and PS4 games. It is very much less polished, the animation feels clunky (watching Kiryu run feels off, he looks so stiff and unnatural).

I started playing and immediately thought "Looking forward to getting to Y4, I guess I'll just skip the substories."

For some reason, I stopped playing for some time and when I came back, it felt more bearable and I started doing substories more.

When I started Y4, I felt like everything was more polished and that the game felt much better.

However, Christmas happened at the same time and I started playing other games so I haven't gotten very far in Y4 yet. So I can't judge.

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Im convinced 0 and 7 are the only truly great Yakuza games while the others are just fine

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Yea, I did notice right away how stiff Kiryu looked in Y3 with the animations after coming off K2. I immediately thought Y4 looked a little better in that regards. One thing I actually did find annoying in Y3 was the street fights. I was used to aggressive enemies showing up on the map. Didn't take me long to realize how to spot them out, but one issue is sometimes there are a TON of NPCs crowding the streets making it hard to get around them. And yes I know walking makes it easier to avoid them, but sometimes there are just too many NPCs in the way. I think Y4 improved on that.

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Kiryu looks like a square in 3 after playing Kiwami 2 :-P

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pauIie posted...

the boss fight at the end of the game with the 2 knife bosses and the gun boss is the most annoying fight of my entire life.

Legit, the only reason I have not beaten Kiwami 1. That fight is absolutely garbage nonsense. Truly the worst of the entire series. I've beaten 0, K2, 3, 4 and am halfway through 5 and 7, and NONE of them have had that kind of bullshit.

Giant_Aspirin posted...

i just finished 3 (Remaster) for the first time and I agree about the combat being the worst so far. but this is also my first time playing on the 'original' engine because i started with 0 then Kiwami 1 & 2.

i found the story rather endearing, though, because i love Kiryu so much.

I just want to point out that the engine for 0 and Kiwami 1 is the same as 3 :) It is just the ACTUAL first one done in that style. Each entry after gets better, and with Yakuza 5, it feels exactly as it did in K1 and 0. Including each character getting a MAJOR side story to complete.

CyricZ posted...

Kiryu looks like a square in 3 after playing Kiwami 2 :-P

Such a square. He looks like a weird square shaped buff ape or something.

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CyricZ posted...

Kiryu looks like a square in 3 after playing Kiwami 2 :-P

Lol! It's one of the reasons why I can't wait to move on to 6. Kiryu looked so weird in 3. I started with 0, so naturally 6 looks more like the Kiryu I know compared to the remastered games.

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