Poll of the Day > Canadian truckers fight against vaccine mandates

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Please educate me on the difference between drinking a couple beers and taking a couple grams of shrooms and why alcohol should be legal and why shrooms shouldn't.

have an intelligent conversation about the subject
KodyKeir posted... Radical Thought:

We concede on the security theatre aspect on the pandemic response and just agree on allowing for the freedom to wear a mask. Triple layer cloth or better, wear a mask, it's cold out.

Some people feel comfortable covering their face, we should allow them the freedom to do so.

How about you do your own research and get back to me when you actually want to have an intelligent conversation about the subject.

I'm trying to have an intelligent conversation, but apparently it's impossible with you. You can't even explain to me why shrooms are too dangerous to be legal but alcohol is just fine and dandy.

Also, didn't you claim to be a libertarian a few posts ago? Shouldn't you not care about how dangerous something is? Freedom is all that matters, right? All I've seen from you is shit about how you should have the freedom to not get vaccinated and not wear masks. Not being vaccinated and not wearing masks are dangerous to every single person you go near. Shouldn't all drugs, no matter how dangerous be legal by your own logic? You're against the government mandating masks or vaccines because of "personal choice", so why shouldn't that logic also apply to drugs? Far less people are affected by a person's choice to do drugs than their choice to not get vaccinated and not wear a mask in public.

If you dont understand the difference between drinking a couple of beers and taking a couple of grams of mushrooms

Were you on drugs when you posted this

based truckers. the mandates were horrible from day one and I'm glad to see all this massive pushback.

The US Supreme Court ruled in favour of vaccine mandates in the early 1900's for the purpose of trying to get smallpox under control.

"Day one" for vaccine mandates was before you were born. Workers in many professions have been required to have vaccines for roughly as long as vaccines have existed, whenever not being vaccinated presents a risk to their clients, the public, their colleagues, or their ability to continue doing their work. You can't even start med school in Canada without proof of most childhood vaccines, plus TB immunity.

The only thing that's new with Covid is that Covid spreads so rapidly that it's become an occupational health issue for other professions as well, and a bunch of idiots have adopted their refusal to get vaccinated as a matter of personal and political identity and therefore refuse to change their minds in the face of new information. Even that's nothing new: The US Supreme Court ruled in favour of vaccine mandates in the early 1900's for the purpose of trying to get smallpox under control.

How about you do your own research and get back to me when you actually want to have an intelligent conversation about the subject.

The government should not mandate what medicine an individual needs to take. It's none of the governments business. It should be up to the individual. I don't care if it's the vaccine or a single ibuprofen. It's wrong.

The government should not mandate what medicine an individual needs to take. It's none of the governments business. It should be up to the individual. I don't care if it's the vaccine or a single ibuprofen. It's wrong.

What's next, a license to drive a car?!

The government should not mandate what medicine an individual needs to take. It's none of the governments business.

Are they actually calling themselves that?

Public safety is absolutely the government's business. That's why a considerable portion of the laws we have exist. Why should vaccines be exempt from that?

because they'd be forcing people to get injected with something to go to a bar. lots public safety measures are variants of "don't do this". the mandates are "you must do this". it's extremely invasive.

What's next, a license to drive a car?!

because they'd be forcing people to get injected with something to go to a bar. lots public safety measures are variants of "don't do this". the mandates are "you must do this". it's extremely invasive.

because they'd be forcing people to get injected with something to go to a bar. lots public safety measures are variants of "don't do this". the mandates are "you must do this". it's extremely invasive.

You must wear clothing when outside in public, is that also invasive?

lmfao are you old enough to know the list of things that many bars require of you before you enter? ever been to a club that won't allow backwards ballcaps?

An injection is not the same as an age, or clothing.

It's like you people like being told what to do. And you're grateful.

An injection is not the same as an age, or clothing.

It's like you people like being told what to do. And you're grateful.

this website has an edit function dude

So you advocate for people's freedom to enter bars regardless of vaccination status, but you don't care about their rights in regards to how they wear a hat? Strange.

Medical autonomy is a pretty big deal and I can't believe people are cheering for less of it.

Well if the club said to come in you could never wear a hat again, I'd say that's pretty bad. You cant un inject yourself. Medical autonomy is a pretty big deal and I can't believe people are cheering for less of it.

The protesters put antivax signs and clothes on a statue of Terry Fox.

For those that aren't Canadian, Terry Fox was a young man with bone cancer that started a marathon across Canada. He ran wearing his prosthetic leg, and ultimately had to stop because his cancer came back hard, and killed him. He made it halfway across the country.

The protesters have usurped a statue honouring that legacy to promote a conservative antivax narrative. And they unironically think they hold the moral high ground.

did you say the same thing when you got all your other vaccinations

You still have medical autonomy. You just have less options of stuff you can do when youre not vaccinated You still have that choice

Terry Fox would have been definitely been pro-vaxx, im 99% sure. Yet those guys are just fucking dumbasses. They have been waving Nazi flags, and putting nazi symbols onto the Canadian flag. How can anyone actually be for this group?

Equating clothing with an injection is stupid.

It's like you people like being told what to do.

You cant un inject yourself.

Not the non existant mandates for a the other vaccinations.

Workers in many professions have been required to have vaccines for roughly as long as vaccines have existed, whenever not being vaccinated presents a risk to their clients, the public, their colleagues, or their ability to continue doing their work. You can't even start med school in Canada without proof of most childhood vaccines, plus TB immunity.

Those were given to me as a kid before I had any choice on pretty much anything, let alone a vaccine. But don't change the topic. We're talking about the current mandates. Not the non existant mandates for a the other vaccinations.

I agree. Clothing is far more expensive, requires a non-trivial amount of time, money, and energy to maintain, and really doesn't provide much benefit to those around you once you've achieved the bare minimum of covering your butthole so you don't smear poop residue on whatever you sit on. By contrast, vaccines are very cheap (if you have to pay for them at all), require pretty much no further action or upkeep beyond a day or two of side effects, and reduces the risk of getting other people sick or even killing them. Needing to wear clothing is obviously way worse than needing to get vaccinated. They're not even comparable.

I can't necessarily speak for everyone else, but I'm pretty neutral on being told what to do. Sometimes it's helpful, sometimes it's harmful, sometimes it's redundant... Given that I'm not a rebellious teenager, I don't define my personal identity on a basis of rejecting authority.

In this particular case, I got the shot long before any sort of mandates were even being considered, so it makes absolutely no difference to me that they're telling me to get vaccinated. I am, however, glad that they're telling all the people who were too stupid to make the right decision on their own what to do, since apparently that's necessary.

Fortunately, that's not really something anyone actually ever needs to do. If you end up with an adverse reaction (which is quite rare), that's generally easy enough to address by applying additional treatments, with no need to un-inject anything.

Try to keep up.

I agree. Clothing is far more expensive, requires a non-trivial amount of time, money, and energy to maintain, and really doesn't provide much benefit to those around you once you've achieved the bare minimum of covering your butthole so you don't smear poop residue on whatever you sit on. By contrast, vaccines are very cheap (if you have to pay for them at all), require pretty much no further action or upkeep beyond a day or two of side effects, and reduces the risk of getting other people sick or even killing them. Needing to wear clothing is obviously way worse than needing to get vaccinated. They're not even comparable.

I can't necessarily speak for everyone else, but I'm pretty neutral on being told what to do. Sometimes it's helpful, sometimes it's harmful, sometimes it's redundant... Given that I'm not a rebellious teenager, I don't define my personal identity on a basis of rejecting authority.

In this particular case, I got the shot long before any sort of mandates were even being considered, so it makes absolutely no difference to me that they're telling me to get vaccinated. I am, however, glad that they're telling all the people who were too stupid to make the right decision on their own what to do, since apparently that's necessary.

Fortunately, that's not really something anyone actually ever needs to do. If you end up with an adverse reaction (which is quite rare), that's generally easy enough to address by applying additional treatments, with no need to un-inject anything.

Try to keep up.

Ex. If you don't give me all your money, I'm going to chop off your hand. It's your choice weather you do or not, I'm not forcing you to do anything, but you'll just have to live with the consequences. Don't blame me for the choice you make.

Ill stand by this, it's a personal choice what someone does to their body. Any system or person who thinks that choice does not belong to the individual is wrong.

Yes because replacing 32,000 veteran and certified truck drivers with a bunch of noobs is actually going to happen and be so much safer /s. Remember that King of the Hill episode where they thought they could just easily replace the propane truck drivers? Remember how that worked out? Continue to enjoy your shortages and ever increasing inflation.