Poll of the Day > Canadian truckers fight against vaccine mandates

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Lil_Bit83
01/29/22 8:28:58 PM
#101:


KodyKeir posted...
Ah yes, the Flu Trux Klan

They are threatening to kill the Prime Minister and do a "January 6th" on the capital, and recent leaked messages shows them planning to blockade hospitals in Ottawa.

They are being funded and propelled by Western separatists and white nationalists.

There is also far fewer then what Rupert Murdoch would have us believe, by an order of magnitude.


I loled at the Flu Trux Clan. I shook my head at the rest.

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Lokarin
01/29/22 8:46:38 PM
#102:


They aren't against Polio vaccine are they?

cuz, like, covid is beating the shit out of Polio's numbers

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custard500011
01/29/22 9:07:56 PM
#103:


Nichtcrawler X posted...
Wat do you think of forced circumcision to children?
I didn't know it was forced. If it is, I'm against it. It should be the parents choice.
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custard500011
01/29/22 9:11:42 PM
#104:


LinkPizza posted...
Sure. But that's also assault. Which is against the law. Where vaccines are not. And yes. You kind of are forcing someone to do it. Because it's a coercion. You're threatening someone. Vaccines aren't a threat, though. You just can't go into certain places. So, those aren't the same Funny how you keep telling other that their examples and comparisons are bad when yours was much worse...
Banning people from going to, bars, restaurants, venues, getting jobs, going to school, and in some parts of the world, grocery stores, seems kinda like forcing. I just gave an extreme example since apparently anything that isn't that doesn't register.
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LinkPizza
01/29/22 9:25:46 PM
#105:


custard500011 posted...
Banning people from going to, bars, restaurants, venues, getting jobs, going to school, and in some parts of the world, grocery stores, seems kinda like forcing. I just gave an extreme example since apparently anything that isn't that doesn't register.

They aren't banned, though. They just have to get the vaccine. And most grocery stores don't require the vaccine, but just masks. To this day, I haven't seen any grocery stores that require vaccines. And that's probably because people need to buy food. And even if they did eventually require it, you could instead do curbside pickup, which you don't need a vaccine for. And you can buy alcohol in stores, as well... Bars aren't really needed. They are just a public place to get together. So, even if you couldn't go there, it's not really a detriment to life... May schools also give students the choice of being vaccinated or not. And for the students that won't get vaccinated, they usually offer a chance to do virtual schooling. Most jobs have requirements that need to be fulfilled to actually get the job. Like at one of y jobs, I needed to have a CDL. And these days, most jobs, you need to have the vaccine. So, this isn't any different that all those jobs. As a matter of fact, at one of my jobs, you needed to get a ton of other vaccines. Not to mention a bunch more if you were going overseas... So, saying you need it for jobs doesn't matter as most jobs require many things from you. The fact is that even if you think it's forcing you, it's not. So you'd be wrong. Most, if not all, of these places could kick you out for a number of reasons. This is just another one added to the list. And most of these things have alternatives for people who don't want to get the vaccine. So no. You're not forced to get the vaccine to live or anything... And you can say you gave an extreme example or whatever. But it's still a shitty one. Everyone else who gave example gave good ones. You complained about theirs, and then gave an even shittier one...

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SunWuKung420
01/29/22 9:32:39 PM
#106:


custard500011 posted...
I didn't know it was forced. If it is, I'm against it. It should be the parents choice.
When my son was born last summer, the most asked question was "so, you're not circumcising your son?" This was every single doctor and nurse, everyday until and after he was born. It very much felt like they were forcing us. It also adds something like $1200 to the bill.

Only my wife was given a covid test, once, despite me and my mother-in-law being there also.

It really seemed like they were more concerned with performing a circumcision than covid.

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Nichtcrawler X
01/29/22 9:57:14 PM
#107:


custard500011 posted...
I didn't know it was forced. If it is, I'm against it. It should be the parents choice.

Not the individual's?

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custard500011
01/29/22 10:08:06 PM
#108:


LinkPizza posted...
They aren't banned, though. They just have to get the vaccine. And most grocery stores don't require the vaccine, but just masks. To this day, I haven't seen any grocery stores that require vaccines. And that's probably because people need to buy food. And even if they did eventually require it, you could instead do curbside pickup, which you don't need a vaccine for. And you can buy alcohol in stores, as well... Bars aren't really needed. They are just a public place to get together. So, even if you couldn't go there, it's not really a detriment to life... May schools also give students the choice of being vaccinated or not. And for the students that won't get vaccinated, they usually offer a chance to do virtual schooling. Most jobs have requirements that need to be fulfilled to actually get the job. Like at one of y jobs, I needed to have a CDL. And these days, most jobs, you need to have the vaccine. So, this isn't any different that all those jobs. As a matter of fact, at one of my jobs, you needed to get a ton of other vaccines. Not to mention a bunch more if you were going overseas... So, saying you need it for jobs doesn't matter as most jobs require many things from you. The fact is that even if you think it's forcing you, it's not. So you'd be wrong. Most, if not all, of these places could kick you out for a number of reasons. This is just another one added to the list. And most of these things have alternatives for people who don't want to get the vaccine. So no. You're not forced to get the vaccine to live or anything... And you can say you gave an extreme example or whatever. But it's still a shitty one. Everyone else who gave example gave good ones. You complained about theirs, and then gave an even shittier one...
if they arent vaxxed, they will not be allowed to enter for as long as there are vaxx mandates. thats essential a ban. as far as the grocery store vaxx mandates, shorturl.at/quvzC
so there's that. "bars arent needed" what? thats not even a point.
sure, there's ways to live life in a subpar annoying compromised way that will allow you to do the things you usually did, but thats no reason to say its fine, its not. places that didnt need proof of any medical information at all now require it. thats not progress.
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custard500011
01/29/22 10:09:01 PM
#109:


Nichtcrawler X posted...
Not the individual's?
the baby?
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adjl
01/29/22 10:12:40 PM
#110:


custard500011 posted...
You actually equated an injection to clothing and think it's a good point.

I said they're not at all equal. That's the opposite of equating.

custard500011 posted...
And this insane idea that there's only once choice in all of this is simply wrong.

Oh, there are two choices. One of them helps to control the public health crisis that has been ravaging the world for the past two years. One of them does not. That's not a difficult choice. There is a clear right and wrong there. Those that choose the wrong choice present a risk to those around them, so the consequence of that choice has to be to limit their ability to endanger others, which means limiting their access to public spaces (as much as is feasible without actually harming them).

custard500011 posted...
Any system or person who thinks that choice does not belong to the individual is wrong.

The choice does belong to the individual. Choices have consequences, though, and sometimes those consequences require further actions against the individual to limit the impact those consequences can have on people that didn't make the wrong choice.

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LinkPizza
01/29/22 11:02:28 PM
#111:


custard500011 posted...
if they arent vaxxed, they will not be allowed to enter for as long as there are vaxx mandates. thats essential a ban. as far as the grocery store vaxx mandates, shorturl.at/quvzC
so there's that. "bars arent needed" what? thats not even a point.
sure, there's ways to live life in a subpar annoying compromised way that will allow you to do the things you usually did, but thats no reason to say its fine, its not. places that didnt need proof of any medical information at all now require it. thats not progress.

Most places that have vaccine mandates are not usually places you need to go to have a good life. Examples would be places like bars, clubs, restaurants, etc... So far, I haven't seen important places like grocery stores have them. The ones I've all seen have mask requirements. But that's it. Tbh, I haven't even seen place that requires vaccines yet... And I don't know what you were trying to say with the short url that just led to the site, so you're "so there's that" mean absolutely nothing. What were you trying to say exactly? And bars aren't needed is 100% a point. They aren't needed. So, there's no need to cry about something. It's not like you're going to die without going into a bar. And honestly, they can kick you out of a bar for anything already. So, if you're going to cry about vaccine mandates, you should also cry about all the other rules you need to go into a bar...

And it absolutely is fine. You don't want the vaccine, That's fine. Things will be harder for you. But they don't have to be. You chose to do things the hard way. Most of the rest of the world wants to be safe. You don't care about that. And that's fine... But others may not want you around them because of it... And it is progress. Just progress you don't like, so you pretend it isn't... Lots of stuff changed requirements as time goes on. People use to sell alcohol without a license all the time. Liquor licenses were even a thing until the 1900s, it seems... So, things change all the time...

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MartianManchild
01/30/22 6:07:07 AM
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CaptainStrong
01/30/22 6:29:08 AM
#113:


MartianManchild posted...
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I'm sure the numbers in America are much better.
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MartianManchild
01/30/22 6:30:49 AM
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Nichtcrawler X
01/30/22 7:22:23 AM
#115:


custard500011 posted...
the baby?

Unfortunately that is how it usually works yes.

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adjl
01/30/22 9:00:02 AM
#116:


MartianManchild posted...
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That comes more from the fact that's the whole thing is being funded by an explicitly white supremacist party (as in, part of their stated core philosophy includes the "advancement of the white aryan race") than from what any protesters are saying. All the swastikas certainly don't help that perception, though.

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Ogurisama
01/30/22 12:19:35 PM
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papercup
01/30/22 12:25:56 PM
#118:


If somebody came into my business and said "serve us for free or we'll hurt you" I'd start blasting.

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Nichtcrawler X
01/30/22 12:27:30 PM
#119:


So they are desecrating a war monument and what is the statue of the kid for?

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Blightzkrieg
01/30/22 12:33:06 PM
#120:


MartianManchild posted...
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Damn, talk about meme templates that aged poorly lol

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Velarios
01/30/22 12:34:50 PM
#121:


Nichtcrawler X posted...
So they are desecrating a war monument and what is the statue of the kid for?
Terry Fox was a Canadian athlete who had his leg amputated due to cancer. He planned to run across the country to raise money and spread cancer awareness. He went 5373km(3339mi) in 143 days before the cancer spread to his lungs killing him.

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BlackScythe0
01/30/22 12:59:12 PM
#122:


MartianManchild posted...
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It's almost like you're not aware of the efforts conservatives on this board do to call all the BLM protests riots with rampant arson and looting because of relatively few incidents in relation to the attendance numbers.

Here it is pal the other side of the aisle. People choose to march under swastikas and give interviews before them they get associated with them. Don't like it? Leave the swastikas at home.
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adjl
01/30/22 1:18:19 PM
#123:


papercup posted...
If somebody came into my business and said "serve us for free or we'll hurt you" I'd start blasting.

It gets worse. Apparently a number of them went into the Ottawa food bank and demanded all of their food to feed the protest, so now the food bank has no food left because a bunch of Nazis got hungry.

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captpackrat
01/30/22 1:57:47 PM
#124:


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Nichtcrawler X
01/30/22 2:11:51 PM
#125:


Two things that do not look well in the same news programme, but perhaps emphasize why the one is still relevant and needed...

On the one hand, neo-nazi's proudly waving swastika flags in Canada, on the other hand national holocaust memorials.

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MartianManchild
01/30/22 2:26:51 PM
#126:


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BlackScythe0
01/30/22 2:41:01 PM
#127:


I wonder if he actually thinks Trudeau is afraid? I'm pretty sure the only people afraid were the ones working in food related industries getting robbed by swastika wielding lunatics.
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ReturnOfFa
01/30/22 2:53:45 PM
#128:


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ReturnOfFa
01/30/22 2:54:06 PM
#129:


MartianManchild posted...
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Boomer facebook is a shithole.

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papercup
01/30/22 7:40:57 PM
#130:


I like how all this protest managed to do was turn canadians even further against conservative antivaxx psychos.

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papercup
01/30/22 9:16:04 PM
#131:


Apparently when they're not waving nazi flags around, and harassing business owners, they're desecrating war memorials and peeing on people's lawns. Gee whiz, these really are "heroes". :P

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MartianManchild
01/30/22 9:51:37 PM
#132:


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adjl
01/30/22 10:06:15 PM
#133:


papercup posted...
I like how all this protest managed to do was turn canadians even further against conservative antivaxx psychos.

I will say, I am trying to keep an open mind and believe that the psychotic Nazis are probably a non-representative minority of an otherwise peaceful protest. That is, after all, what happened with the BLM protests, with a whole bunch of people generalizing the violent minority to discredit the movement as a whole and avoid confronting the central message. The central message of this protest is still wrong, of course, and I will continue to disagree with it and argue against it wherever possible, but I want to try to avoid dismissing it all as just being the insane ramblings of racist vandals.

That said, they're making it really hard, especially where even the well-intentioned ones are still engaging in blatant terrorism (that is, "we're engineering a supply crisis unless we get the political change we want").

MartianManchild posted...
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Have you ever considered trying to make some Facebook friends that are *under* 60?

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papercup
01/30/22 10:16:13 PM
#134:


I like how he's just ignoring everything that's being presented to him and he's just posting really bad memes. He's one dedicated troll.

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ReturnOfFa
01/30/22 10:21:09 PM
#135:


i don't even understand how they make the images so fuzzy

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SunWuKung420
01/30/22 10:22:57 PM
#136:


MartianManchild posted...
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adjl posted...
Have you ever considered trying to make some Facebook friends that are *under* 60?
The movie "Maximum Overdrive" was released in 1986 and isn't even 40 years old. I'm under 50 and imagine that there are those in their 30's or younger that have seen the movie. I remember this movie from my childhood (around 8 when the movie was released). I'm really not sure why you think only those 60 and older know of it.

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ReturnOfFa
01/30/22 10:23:48 PM
#137:


SunWuKung420 posted...
The movie "Maximum Overdrive" was released in 1986 and isn't even 40 years old. I'm under 50 and imagine that there are those in their 30's or younger that have seen the movie. I remember this movie from my childhood (around 8 when the movie was released). I'm really not sure why you think only those 60 and older know of it.
the point is that you're old if you share memes of this variety

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SunWuKung420
01/30/22 10:25:50 PM
#138:


ReturnOfFa posted...
the point is that you're old if you share memes of this variety
You think 60+ year olds are making these memes?

It's also a great movie.

FIGHT SKYNET!

How do you know adlj's points?

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ReturnOfFa
01/30/22 10:29:04 PM
#139:


As to your first point:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/2/6/AAUdByAAC3n-.png

I'll definitely download it and get to it!

I don't, but I'm just chiming in :) You know me!

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BEERandWEED
01/30/22 10:29:41 PM
#140:


I need to watch that movie with Trudeau running from the Joker's big rig.

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SunWuKung420
01/30/22 10:31:15 PM
#141:


ReturnOfFa posted...
As to your first point:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/2/6/AAUdByAAC3n-.png

I'll definitely download it and get to it!

I don't, but I'm just chiming in :) You know me!
Stop trying to deflect, adjl.

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ReturnOfFa
01/30/22 10:33:39 PM
#142:


SunWuKung420 posted...
Stop trying to deflect, adjl.
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SunWuKung420
01/30/22 10:34:26 PM
#143:


ReturnOfFa posted...
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Not proof you aren't adjl.

Do some push ups. My 6 month old has more muscle.

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ReturnOfFa
01/30/22 10:36:02 PM
#144:


SunWuKung420 posted...
Not proof you aren't adjl.
can you chill on your theorizing? I wasn't on here in 2002 - that's when I was 11. my first account was made here when I was 13, in 2004.

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SunWuKung420
01/30/22 10:36:56 PM
#145:


ReturnOfFa posted...
can you chill on your theorizing? I wasn't on here in 2002 - that's when I was 11. my first account was made here when I was 13, in 2004.
Ok?

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adjl
01/30/22 10:56:37 PM
#146:


SunWuKung420 posted...
How do you know adlj's points?

Probably because people that understand subtextual cues don't consider it to be a particularly obscure point. That, or it's a grand conspiracy where I'm pretending to be hundreds of different people simultaneously to trick you into doubting yourself and going insane, and I just slipped up and gave you a chance to unmask it. It's hard to say, really.

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SunWuKung420
01/30/22 11:05:33 PM
#147:


adjl posted...
Probably because people that understand subtextual cues don't consider it to be a particularly obscure point. That, or it's a grand conspiracy where I'm pretending to be hundreds of different people simultaneously to trick you into doubting yourself and going insane, and I just slipped up and gave you a chance to unmask it. It's hard to say, really.
You can't gaslight me you robotic being.

My thoughts are my own unlike the McDonald's and Chick-fil-A consuming sheep.

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Gaawa_chan
01/30/22 11:21:56 PM
#148:


I might be wrong, but if I understand the situation between both Canada's restrictions AND the USA's restrictions...? This protest isn't even going to accomplish anything because the USA does not permit unvaccinated truckers across the border... so they're literally protesting over fucking nothing, lol.

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papercup
01/30/22 11:25:05 PM
#149:


They're not even protesting. They're pooping into their hands and throwing it at monuments and peoples houses.

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adjl
01/30/22 11:25:17 PM
#150:


Gaawa_chan posted...
I might be wrong, but if I understand the situation between both Canada's restrictions AND the USA's restrictions...? This protest isn't even going to accomplish anything because the USA does not permit unvaccinated truckers across the border... so they're literally protesting over fucking nothing, lol.

Presumably, they'd take the same protest to Biden if they were successful in Canada and suddenly discovered they still couldn't cross the border freely, but yeah. These restrictions work both ways, and they're only trying to address one. This is pretty much nothing more than a couple of far-right politicians whipping their more extreme constituents into a frenzy so they can make a quick buck off of donations.

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