Board 8 > Eff 2021 Mafia: Topic 5 - Starting The New Year Off With A Little Coup

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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

I had none? If that is an okay answer.

I didnt really want to lynch either but out of the 2 isquen seemed like the lesser of the 2 evils at the time. I brought Ben maybe being role scanner or something like that At the time

dont really know whats happening in sultanland right now

changmas posted...

okay hes making too much sense today does that help

ill give him a bit of a pass at the end of D1 for replacing in hours before the deadline and seemingly trying to read everything in time

Fair enough. His posts don't look bad today.

Sbell you got me distracted lol.

I had a point I wanted to make before answering questions and now it's lost forever...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Sbell you got me distracted lol.

I had a point I wanted to make before answering questions and now it's lost forever...

This post from sultan screams town though imo

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

I had none? If that is an okay answer.

I didnt really want to lynch either but out of the 2 isquen seemed like the lesser of the 2 evils at the time. I brought Ben maybe being role scanner or something like that At the time

So at the time was voting for neither of them an option for you?

Sultan is painfully town

MZero posted...

Sultan is painfully town

Duh

Obellisk posted...

So at the time was voting for neither of them an option for you?

No beacuse who I would have presented in Lea would have never gained traction I tried to lay out a few options other than them 2 about an hour prior. I think scare might have been the only one to actually gain any momentum but their were what 5 minutes if that left in day?

Yeah I don't think Sultan can fake all this either, it's the reason I didn't do more about how bad I think that hammer looked.

I don't agree plum makes all that much sense today. Two day vigs was unthinkable yesterday and we absolutely had to go for Scare if Isquen flipped town. Though I do agree that just thinking two day vigs is unthinkable was a bad idea, but arsonist shouldn't change anything. Yes, it can wildly unbalance a game, but that goes both ways. Let's say we have two town vigs that both shoots scum and arsonist hits scum too. That argument could just as well have been used for making the case that there could not be two town day vigs.

Obellisk posted...

just going to point out how odd it is that Ben would post twice in previous topic after the 450 and then not repost here or even come here...

Just reading this now, because I read and comment on things in order and when I can. I've had a terrible time keeping up with this game. Not because there are a lot of posts but because I've been busy irl

Corrik7 posted...

OH BCT is just repeating what other people say as his scum reads.

I'm acting differently because someone else said I am acting differently.

I would take that more as proof that he's getting his thoughts from the topic than elsewhere.

It also seems like the people who really want to lynch BCT are those without experience with him.

I'm also coming around on saying we can lynch Plum too.
I didn't like his posts during day 2 last night, but I was trying to temper myself to see if I actually felt that way, and this morning so far I'm still feeling like his posts are icky.

I've also noticed that every single other person in this game thinks Death is Town 100%, which is interesting because he completely ignored that I was gunning for him.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

because he completely ignored that I was gunning for him.

Why were you gunning for him, are you still?

e tu Han

Especially considering I still think scare is the third best lynch

Corriks vote on Ben is just such an obvious scum on scum no hope counter train though

ctesjbuvf posted...

I don't agree plum makes all that much sense today. Two day vigs was unthinkable yesterday and we absolutely had to go for Scare if Isquen flipped town. Though I do agree that just thinking two day vigs is unthinkable was a bad idea, but arsonist shouldn't change anything. Yes, it can wildly unbalance a game, but that goes both ways. Let's say we have two town vigs that both shoots scum and arsonist hits scum too. That argument could just as well have been used for making the case that there could not be two town day vigs.

yeah it's weird to me that no one else was really commenting on this. I still don't get how another killing role flipping makes multiple vigs make more sense. If anything it should make it look worse as there's now too much killing power, plus any EKs scum may be holding

I think I need to look at Scare and Scare interactions because right now the only thing I recall about him is the kill. If Scare is scum, plum doesn't look great here.

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Before anyone goes to read Chris compeltely outplaying Kirby and I, it's the final day of Nick mafia you want.

Btw why is it all your posts are invisible in the logs btw Lea? Just curious.

Obellisk posted...

Why were you gunning for him, are you still?

Sultan made plenty of posts early on, and Death took a neutral opinion.

He accepted the Suprak claim from the Suprak slot in a way that was not very discerning, just accepting blindly and moving on.

He's at time used kind of wonky logic (Ben and BCT bringing up chang's flowchart means they aren't both Scum, but one probably is).

Mostly, he's just been flying a little under the radar and not seeming to provide much, and Lopen also thought he looked Scummy, and such. I have reasons for thinking a lot of people could be Town, and none for Death.

A quick glance does seem to imply Death would be aligned with Scare and not Ben, though that's with not much attention paid to it, fwiw.

I've also noticed that every single other person in this game thinks Death is Town 100%, which is interesting because he completely ignored that I was gunning for him.

I could have sworn I responded to you on day1 already and I didn't notice you bring up anything new since then.
(besides wanting to honor Lopens reads, which is pretty lazy if you ask me)

Also not everyone has been calling me town either, though I will say that you are the only one who has acted on that I think.
Instead of all this 'eh we will deal with him later' talk.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Sultan made plenty of posts early on, and Death took a neutral opinion.

He accepted the Suprak claim from the Suprak slot in a way that was not very discerning, just accepting blindly and moving on.

He's at time used kind of wonky logic (Ben and BCT bringing up chang's flowchart means they aren't both Scum, but one probably is).

Oh there is some stuff here that I dont remember addressing.
I dont think I was neutral? But I dont recall that anymore.

For the third thing, I just like to state theories out loud. Thats nothing new. (I disliked the act and saw it as a lazy motive but I still dont think both scum would use it is all)

It's true that I probably owe a little more from end of day 1 towards you. I got to just after Scare's claim before I posted that. I can endeavour to provide more.

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BCT is being more blustery about people being Town or Scum than I remember (though his focus on Sultan is pretty in-character).

Maybe the most crucifying thing about BCT is that he put Sultan at fourth on his list of 5 suspicions.

I'm just going to freely argue that I don't know if I believe that BCT can force himself to play like his Town self - I really don't think he has the acting ability to be anything other than mostly earnest.

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Was my best guess too, completely understandable.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

I'm just going to freely argue that I don't know if I believe that BCT can force himself to play like his Town self - I really don't think he has the acting ability to be anything other than mostly earnest.

Do you think he might be able to do that with help? I'm uncertain myself, but I just want to put it out there. I was co-host when he was scum, so I remember him asking for a lot of help.

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are we talking about Nickelodeon?
Guy didn't have Town experience before that game

ctesjbuvf posted...

Do you think he might be able to do that with help? I'm uncertain myself, but I just want to put it out there. I was co-host when he was scum, so I remember him asking for a lot of help.

I'd struggle to say it looks like he has had help.

If he has help, on the Scumboard, then why didn't they help him disguise the Suprak slot? Very clearly, he did those posts on his own.

ctesjbuvf posted...

Do you think he might be able to do that with help? I'm uncertain myself, but I just want to put it out there. I was co-host when he was scum, so I remember him asking for a lot of help.

I was hosting this game and yes he asked alot alot alot of questions to his team

BCT's scum game was his first game?

TotallyNotMI posted...

BCT's scum game was his first game?

First in a Long time anyways he said he has played aged ago

HanOfTheNekos posted...

I'd struggle to say it looks like he has had help.

If he has help, on the Scumboard, then why didn't they help him disguise the Suprak slot? Very clearly, he did those posts on his own.

Good point, I struggle to see that too.

Hey BCT when you're around again can you elaborate on what this means:

A: I may not post anything Suprak might consider tampering. This is all.

##unvote

wasvoting MI because their vote on Isquen looked pretty bad compared to some others but meh I got nothing else

TotallyNotMI posted...

BCT's scum game was his first game?

He entered and in his first post said "Hey, so how do we do day 1's here?"

It was very clearly bad acting.

I also said he was Scum from the get-go, and frankly, he was better behaved about being j'accused than in any other game. The Townread of him became "BCT is reacting far too emotionally to not be telling the truth." I hesitate to say it, but he does not have the best grasp of his temper, especially during a game like mafia. I trust he will not be cross with me for saying that.

Obellisk posted...

Han had a frustrated outburst (I didn't read it so I don't really know why but I saw it had to do with corrik) and had to apologize to open day 2 and since then has been posting like a pacifist. He also spent most of day 1 pushing isquen being scum even though multiple people (myself included) shared thoughts that showed isquen has no scum equity in his actions.

I don't see the fire you speak of.

Fwiw, Scum Plum is known for shaking in his boots at the thought of Town Han. He fears me. Perhaps this is just Scum Plum sucking up to me to get me to look elsewhere!

Plum was the other vote on Isquen that I was meh about but plum just replaced in

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Who do I not like this post any reason I shouldn't. Idk why it isn't sitting well with me lol

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Who do I not like this post any reason I shouldn't. Idk why it isn't sitting well with me lol

Is it because there are THREE definitely town kills and you're one of them?

:O

Could be Lea trying to be funny/sarcastic.
Could be her advocating for lynching Scare without getting her own hands dirty.
Could be both.

Han, the thing with BCT (for me at least) is that he does not seem to have learned anything from his last game.

Or rather he seems to have learned that Sultan can be town, but only Sultan.

Maybe Sultan just hates comedy.

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Maybe it was because of less pressure his way that he reacted less. But aside from his assertion that Sultan was Town on page 1, I'm not seeing this too far out of the range of other Town games he's had. BCT always gets upset when people gun for him, seems to be the moral of the story.

What makes this different?

I just want to be clear that we are NOT lynching BCT for his attitude - lynch him for his actions if you must, but as I've just pointed out, for a guy we know gets coached on the Scumboard, it seems as though his Suprak messages were not.

htaeD posted...

Han, the thing with BCT (for me at least) is that he does not seem to have learned anything from his last game.

Or rather he seems to have learned that Sultan can be town, but only Sultan.

That is progress.