Board 8 > Star Trek Mafia - Topic 7: I am not a merry man.

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Sheep007 posted...

I am going to save most of the self-deprecation for the post-game, but yeah, the more I think about it the more it makes less sense and was a kinda stupid idea. I'm sorry for being so paranoid towards you this game, I can't even explain it in a way that will make sense to you or anyone, the rational part of my brain knows it is probably unfounded but it still feels wrong to think you are Town.

Hey I appreciate the apology I suppose? I just can't wrap my head around anybody actually thinking that we'd gun at each other like that and then fizzle on day end on purpose. Like, if Chris and I can communicate out-of-game, then we're doing it 24/7 and then you see a much better play there. And probably not him at me at all - I don't like being sussed in Mafia.

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The most content Isquen had in his "catch up" so far accused the uncountered doctor of being scum and getting snippy with me for calling him out on it.

Wait I just read that deeper how did he make himself sound like an SK as town

When exactly did Isquen claim, sorry?

Lea is talking about a previous game

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So basically he claimed arsonist and got lynched and then real arsonist died pro play

Oh, yeah, and actual sorry about real stuff Sheep.

Thing is, if cards were laid out differently, this day has Death being lynched, or possibly JC being lynched.

As it stands, here's the read. Top-down is Towniest to Scummiest

Town based on Chris's lynch
Lea - No push on Chris actually succeeds without her
Sultan - Was the escape valve for Chris
Ulti - Introduced us to "Lynch Chris" in the first place
Crescent - Sealed the deal

Town based on Scum shooting Death is dumb, also he's my Mason
Ctes

Townish based on behavior
Dumey - His reaction to Sheep's claim was too genuine not to see him as thinking the exact same thing
BCT - Early reactions were Townish. I'll remind people - I hit on BCT on my first post in Nickelodeon Mafia. I've seen him react to being sniffed out. It's not the same as him seeing ghosts in every post.
Wall - Great posts for a first-timer, his attitudes towards specific players imply him not being aligned with experienced players

JC gets his own tier
JC - Claim seemed BS and I stand by that but I believe Sheep slipped (for some reason I typed Suprak instead of Sheep twice and I couldn't figure out what looked so wrong). Sheep flipping Town probably incriminates JC entirely

Sad POE
Isquen - It's not even through any fault of his that he's next in line. That's why it's so sad.

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Everything Isquen has done reeks of scum intentionally trying to fail to catch up before the day is over to get a free pass and the idea of specialing him is actually tempting but I don't see how it stops tomorrow from being a repeat of today.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Sad POE
Isquen - It's not even through any fault of his that he's next in line. That's why it's so sad.

Hard disagree. Isquen's taken a path that's given us virtually no real information or reads. Many of his reads can and will be instantly taken back, like when he insinuated Ulti was scum.

Votals:
[5] Sheep - Han, Lea, (Ulti), (BCT), (Sultan), (Wallz), Wallz, Ulti, Sultan
[1] Han: Sheep
[1] Dumey - (Ulti), BCT
[0] Isquen: (Sheep), (Ulti)
[0] JC: (Han), (Sultan), (Wallz)
[0] Wallz - (Isquen)
[0] Ulti: (Sultan), (Wallz)
[0] Sultan: (BCT)
[0] Crescent: (Isquen)

It takes 7 votes to lynch. Day ends in approximately 20 minutes. Please be patient with the flip, I've got the kids.

If you're suggesting I should read Isquen posts closer, then I will. If I live to D3.

Anyway, I'm bouncing for Mario now. Ta-ta.

And if I were being honest I actually scumread him more than Sheep right now.

If I could I'd vig him without any hesitation.

Just finished at the gym, it seems safe to

##vote: Sheep

HanOfTheNekos posted...

If you're suggesting I should read Isquen posts closer, then I will. If I live to D3.

There aren't many of them and some of the things they say are things we already have reason to believe are factually wrong based on information he should already be operating under.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Ulti - Introduced us to "Lynch Chris" in the first place

Would a scum Ulti bus a scum Chris on D1? Or is that too wild a gambit? (I'm just throwing a theory out there, is all; I don't necessarily believe it.)

Can we stop talking about the uncountered doctor claim thanks

And yes he would this question has only been answered at least a dozen times today.

Crescent-Moon posted...

Everything Isquen has done reeks of scum intentionally trying to fail to catch up before the day is over to get a free pass and the idea of specialing him is actually tempting but I don't see how it stops tomorrow from being a repeat of today.

I think town should aim to end d3 after 24 hours so things dont drag so painfully as they did d2. Isquen will have the irl 24 hour n2 and so that gives him basically 48 additional hours starting now. No hard feelings if he cant catch up all the way or doesnt care to, but anything he wants to say to make a case for himself, he will have had a fair amount of time imo since replacing in.

We will need 6 votes and I think we can get there

I originally kinda wanted today to end in 24 hours!

..On MZero.

And to state the obvious my last post is based on the assumption sheep flips scum. Otherwise yeah no need to rush the day bc well have a lot to talk about

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It's because Isquen is scum.

##Vote: BCT

I'm just throwing this out there for posterity's sake. Sheep is at -1

Id complain about a bath this game too but I didnt bring my toaster this time

EDumey posted...

##Vote: BCT

I'm just throwing this out there for posterity's sake. Sheep is at -1

casual reminder sheep and bct are delinked because bct didnt know sheep had claimed

EDumey posted...

##Vote: BCT

I'm just throwing this out there for posterity's sake. Sheep is at -1

Dumey is also scum.

##unvote
##Vote: Isquen

I think he's the most likely Scum slot still, and am always perfectly happy to leave a special opportunity open should we wish to pursue it.

Town
Ulti - Have gotten townvibes basically from the very start of the game. Claimed bloody doctor, and lynched Chris. Please do not kill.
Crescent - Also seemed Town basically the whole game. Saved by Ulti.
Lea - blah blah lynched Chris blah blah funny and delightful blah blah (also had a very good post defending JC at one point when it was kinda silly to do so from a Scum pov)

Probably Town
Sultan - Chris' suspicion of him is very strange and fake, blah blah lynched Chris blah blah, had a rough start but has felt very genuine when I questioned him.
Wall - Very strong start to the game, a bit less good since but I've not really sensed any nerves, shakiness or phoney reasoning that we would typically see in newer Scum players.
Ctes - Claimed the Death shot, and while his interactions have been relatively limited, I've felt good as a result of basically all of them.
JC - Silly scan man go brrrr and I have read far too much of him today. I think the Crescent scan claim is a really weird thing to do as Scum? Also as Town. But I think Scum playing the odds with Crescent (especially considering they probably didn't scan her assuming Ulti is truthful about his target) is really weird, and a large risk to take that they could simply not? Plus I frankly feel good about his posts.

Han
Han - He should not by any means escape suspicion entirely (I do think it's likely there's one Scum who has hidden themselves pretty excellently and it's not entirely impossible it's him), but yeah, I am probably being paranoid about the Chris thing, and his response in this topic is the most town-feeling thing from him this game, for me. He's had generally pretty poor reads imo, but did put his vote in the exact right place when it counted (probably the opposite of what I'd expect from Scum, really). So yeah, if you're taking anything from me with a pinch of salt, probably make it this.

Kinda Scummy via PoE
BCT - I felt really good about him earlygame? Today, not whatsoever. The PoE has shrunk drastically, his Chris vote was probably the weakest, and he's done very little of note at all today. A lot of that is my fault, and on reflection I wish I'd engaged him more in the time I was here rather than rereads that I ultimately didn't get much out of. That said, he needs to be pressured and I stand by what I said before about taking an alternative route to it. Just ask the dude questions and make sure he responds adequately.
Dumey - He's in kinda the same boat as BCT, where I felt great about him early on, but I don't fully agree with the take that his response to my vanilla claim was because he was gonna claim vanilla himself? I also really liked the analytical slant to a lot of his posts and found myself thinking they were thoughtful, especially on this reread. Honestly, he's solely here because everyone else has far more compelling reasons to think they're Town, imo.

Isquen
Isquen - What do you want me to say? Nothing else to go off, most of the game has fairly compelling Town reasons, not gonna argue off inactivity but MZero hardly showed much good while here.

Peace out and good luck y'all. Apologies for my shite play, hopefully I can feel a little vindicated if my reads are on point in the end.

wallmasterz posted...

And to state the obvious my last post is based on the assumption sheep flips scum. Otherwise yeah no need to rush the day bc well have a lot to talk about

Actually Sheep flipping town would make it more likely Isquen is scum. It's either that or the PoE is megadisastrously off.

I mean it doesn't really matter what Sheep flips I think he's scum regardless.

(It just also makes it very likely that someone who's ~towncleared isn't town.)

Seriously, Dumey, voting me "for posterity's sake" right now makes you look like a posterior. Your case against me is based solely on one illogical conclusion, which is not pro-town. You aren't scum-hunting; you're dwelling on something totally irrelevant. I am town as I said I was.

Crescent-Moon posted...

Actually Sheep flipping town would make it more likely Isquen is scum. It's either that or the PoE is megadisastrously off.

I mean it doesn't really matter what Sheep flips I think he's scum regardless.

I'm reverse Death Miller (flip as Town Vanilla).

I wish Lopen was here and also that I didn't hate self-votes as a concept these days.

Hey BCT

Are you acting like this to try and replicate your recent Town mannerisms? I know for a fact you played up your ignorance in our scum game together for that very reason.

So I haven't done a whole lot as I did fall asleep, but... just putting this out there, I know how bad it'll make me look if this is town, and I honestly can not be arsed in the slightest. Putting this out there too: hey, that "talking about an arsonist" thing? That was when Ben claimed doctor, I immediately went "oh no the hell you didn't" and then they lynched me, the actual doctor. This board is really, really dumb about doctor claims.

If I die/am vigged/whatever overnight, take Ulti with a grain of salt. Wallmasterz is probably also scummy, too, and his Day 1 visa expired.

Oh look, I get to OMGUS, too.
##unvote
##vote: Sheep

And I believe that's a stop.

Sheep007 posted...

Are you acting like this to try and replicate your recent Town mannerisms? I know for a fact you played up your ignorance in our scum game together for that very reason.

No, I've legitimately figured out why Dumey is scum solely based on his terrible conclusions.

Isquen posted...

##unvote
##vote: Sheep

And I believe that's a stop.

Yeah, that is a

STOP

STOP

STOP

Final Votals:
[7] Sheep - Han, Lea, (Ulti), (BCT), (Sultan), (Wallz), Wallz, Ulti, Sultan, JC, Isquen
[1] Dumey - (Ulti), BCT
[1] Isquen: (Sheep), (Ulti), Sheep
[1] BCT: Edumey
[0] JC: (Han), (Sultan), (Wallz)
[0] Wallz - (Isquen)
[0] Ulti: (Sultan), (Wallz)
[0] Sultan: (BCT)
[0] Crescent: (Isquen)
[0] Han: (Sheep)

Your host is running a little thin at the moment and promises flavor to start Day 3.

Sheep had been lynched, he was Kasidy Yates, Town Vanilla

You are Kasidy Yates-Sisko, wife to Captain Benjamin Sisko, also a captain, but of a freighter.. A freighter youve used too many times to count to further the Maquis cause and break dozens of Federation Laws. You are a good person and dont mind getting your hands dirty if its to help people, even if that mean going to prison (which you have), also your husband sacrificed himself and left you alone and pregnant wtf.

If you're gonna do something, do it right; that's what my father used to say.

You have no ability but your voice and your vote.

You win when all threats to Town have been eliminated.

The Crew:
1- BlueCrystalTear
2- Crescent-Moon
3- ctes
4- EDumey
5- Han
6- JC
7- Lea
8- MZero
9- Sultan
10- UltimaterializerX
11- wallmasterz

Tribbles:
LD1 - SirChris - Harry Mudd, Scum Hammerer/Double Voter
KN1 - Death - Ensign Harry Kim, Town Vanilla
LD2 - Sheep - Kasidy Yates, Town Vanilla

Actions are due in by 7pm EST Saturday

[Flavor to Follow]

Crescent has been killed she was Elim Garak, Town Miller Guilty Cop

You are Elim Garak. One time high-ranking member of the Cardassian intelligence agency, the Obsidian Order. Exiled after betraying Tain, the head of the Obsidian Order and your FATHER! You were lucky to escape with your life and after a few run-ins with former Cardassians that have no love for you, you took up residence on Deep Space Nine where you lived a detested peaceful life as a Tailorand Spy and Assassin. If there is information around youll find it but on more than one occasion its almost cost you your life and your friends.

As Miller Guilty Cop you can target one player every night and find out if they are Innocent or Guilty. If you were to be scanned you too would appear as Guilty. If you are successful in targeting a member of the scum team they will be informed the next day phase of who you are.

"Lying is a skill like any other. And if you want to maintain a level of excellence, you have to practice constantly."

You win when all threats to Town have been eliminated.

The Crew:
1- BlueCrystalTear
2- ctes
3- EDumey
4- Han
5- JC
6- Lea
7- MZero
8- Sultan
9- UltimaterializerX
10- wallmasterz

Tribbles:
LD1 - SirChris - Harry Mudd, Scum Hammerer/Double Voter
KN1 - Death - Ensign Harry Kim, Town Vanilla
LD2 - Sheep - Kasidy Yates, Town Vanilla
KN2 - Crescent - Elim Garak, Town Miller Guilty Cop

Day ends Monday March 13th at 8pm.

Ctes is town
Ulti is town
JC is town
Sultan is town
Lea is probably town

Is where I'm at.

UltimaterializerX posted...

I need some logic on why Justin is town.

Same as yesterday

Ulti nothing has changed about your point that I wouldn't have scanned the N1 kill target.

Anyways I tried to scan BCT (look mom i scanned a vanilla) but my scan came back Ulti going somewhere.

So that's nice.

ALSO I'M SO SORRY CRESCENT

caps

Chaeix posted...

Anyways I tried to scan BCT (look mom i scanned a vanilla) but my scan came back Ulti going somewhere.

Oh so the doctor went nowhere?

Uh no he went somewhere lol, that's what that said.