Board 8 > Star Trek Mafia - Topic DS9: Kadir beneath Mo Moteh

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ctesjbuvf posted...

Wait what is CC?

crowd control i assume

Chaeix posted...

what does everyone think about wallz? for someone who i think should be at least on the fringes of everyone's PoE, it's strange how nobody is really bringing him up.

He's on the fringe of my PoE.

That's what I have to say against him. Frankly, I don't have other reasons off the top of my head.

ctesjbuvf posted...

Wait what is CC?

See Han, now this sounds like your usual ines of thinking.

Now what do you make of neither protection automatically voting the other despite what you're saying?

It's odd from Ulti in a game where he's been very reactive.

ctesjbuvf posted...

This one lol. Last line referencing the game we did it in last. Not a big deal if he missed it, but I made an attempt.

lmao. regardless of your alignment, i appreciate the attempt.

ctesjbuvf posted...

Saving it for a night where the PoE is smaller. It'd be a shot in the dark and thank god I didn't, I might have been greatly mislead.

rip death

Ill fire this loaded gun but FUCK gotta save this dangerous role block!

you're not playing a town killing role on b8 properly if you haven't wasted your shot by the time d2 starts

Honestly Ctes claiming the shot on Death is the thing most in his favor.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Honestly Ctes claiming the shot on Death is the thing most in his favor.

agreed - it'd be an incredibly ballsy play today alone, but it's compounded by him claiming a shot when a town killing role other than him could exist, if he were scum

So does everyone think ulti is lying about being bp and ctes legit saved him? I dont know why ulti would be so foolish as to out himself as doctor if hes not bp

I struggle with believing town has bp doctor and jack ctes and we have seen one unblockable kill from scum

lets say one scum is godfather. Still just seems very unbalanced

UltimaterializerX posted...

Christ I wish I could just post my role pm.

I mean

Wallz talking about B8 setup balance rings a little hollow. Like it's not impossible to have an opinion on it, but feels like co-opting other people's arguments. Meh.

Ulti, talk to me about Sultan and Chris day 1.

A lot of people were willing to give Sultan a pretty good clear because of Chris pushing the D1 argument toward him. Day 2 a couple people including myself said Sultan looked like he was different from the past couple games. Day 3 Sultan did a pretty good job contributing to the game setup conversation as all the claims out.

His claim seems to specifically exist to be a Miller to JC's role, scum or town.

Do you think Chris thought Sultan was a believable lynch D1? Or did he expect us to stay on the Death train or branch off somewhere else?

The biggest thing against Sultan is that he's been background.

Ever since BCT went to the farm, he's had very little to say.

So I've been hit with a string of Bad luck I'm in the ER. I have been having some abdominal pain on my right side for about a week and the pain shifted to a bigger area. I shouldn't need to replace but a heads up to why my activities may be slightly limited

Now I just feel mean

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/1/6/AAOJ0pAAERzs.jpg

Omg, so sorry sultan

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

So I've been hit with a string of Bad luck I'm in the ER. I have been having some abdominal pain on my right side for about a week and the pain shifted to a bigger area. I shouldn't need to replace but a heads up to why my activities may be slightly limited

:( No hard feelings of course, Sultan. Hope it's nothing serious, Take care.

I wanted to post the Adam Driver one but chrome doesn't support inserting .gifs from the phone keyboard and I gave up

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Honestly Ctes claiming the shot on Death is the thing most in his favor.

Chaeix posted...

agreed - it'd be an incredibly ballsy play today alone, but it's compounded by him claiming a shot when a town killing role other than him could exist, if he were scum

Can someone else just tell me if they agree with this

If Death isn't shot N1, then day 2 probably goes the exact way it did, except with Death being lynched instead of Sheep.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

If Death isn't shot N1, then day 2 probably goes the exact way it did, except with Death being lynched instead of Sheep.

Dumey said he thought death looked town in light of Chris flipping scum

Han and jc have defended ctes multiple times now because he shot death. I havent seen anyone else do it and Im just hoping to be guaranteed at least one person who is town agrees

wallmasterz posted...

Han and jc have defended ctes multiple times now because he shot death. I havent seen anyone else do it and Im just hoping to be guaranteed at least one person who is town agrees

Crescent agreed. She's guaranteed Town

wallmasterz posted...

Ill fire this loaded gun but FUCK gotta save this dangerous role block!

You're ignoring that I felt good about the Death shot and didn't feel strongly about no one last night.

And also kinda implying I could not learn from my mistakes.

Not that I'm saying Ctes is Town, it's just not a good shot for Scum to make.

Ironically, if there were two deaths N1, I would be less suspicious

wallmasterz posted...

So does everyone think ulti is lying about being bp and ctes legit saved him?

No? For me to have saved Ulti that night, BCT would have to have died.

Who hammered Sheep?

I think we're discussing way too much how good the scum team is or isn't.

Chris was a very good role that we would not be considering right now if it hadn't flipped. It's too much setup stuff.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Who hammered Sheep?

Isquen

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Who hammered Sheep?

I believe Isquen?

ctesjbuvf posted...

Isquen

Well that ruins the dumb theory I just thought up

wallmasterz posted...

Can someone else just tell me if they agree with this

I agree with that yes

The catch up begins. Will get all the way caught up tonight just so we can take that subject off the table as soon as possible

Lea, we've had a few lines of you about knowing Han really well. Do you not think he usually tries to solve the game a lot less based on the setup?

Anyways I'm back a bit. Soo everyone talking down on my involvement with The Chris Lynch. I lynched Chris beacuse I thought he was scum. Chris was acting unusual. I tried to point it out and idk if it came across the way I wanted it to. Part of the reason I was so mad at Ulti for jumping shit was beacuse I though together we were gaining momentum on the lynch and I felt super betrayed by thar. Then Lea came in and brought it back up again and I was excited to see that this hunch was becoming a reality. Chris usually trys to pocket me at town calling me his cute Kahoi or something like that. He was bashing me alot town Chris trys to guide me and he was not.

He started to paint me as a mislynch candidate and I was holding strong.

I believe ulti. I am putting myself squarely in the mindset of believing ctes and I have no idea what I think about anything.

I almost want to lynch Sultan because I don't have a way to eliminate him from my PoE and if he's scum he is definitely power.

Will not lynch today:
ctes
Ulti
Dumey
me!

Would like to lynch less:
Lea
BCT

Somewhere in between:
Han

Much more okay with lynching:
Sultan
Wallz

If I want to analyze future, then I say this:

If Ulti is indeed BP and saves JC, it forces Scum to shoot elsewhere (or they do because JC is Scum). Narrows our field a smidge. JC gets off another scan.

Not sure if we have the room to test a JC scan... Now would have to be the day.

9 alive? That's two mislynches with 3 scum left, 3 with 2 scum. A no lynch mathematically operates as a mislynch, so that's out.

Leaving Ctes alive gives him a chance to RB if he's being truthful.

If we divide the field and have Ctes RB someone of his choice from one half and JC scan the other, then that gives greatest opportunity for something to happen.

Either lying would lead to a mislynch, or could be a false clear on someone, though Scum might not have reason to act aside from shooting.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Either lying would lead to a mislynch, or could be a false clear on someone, though Scum might not have reason to act aside from shooting.

Scum is definitely in a precarious situation if they can't kill Ulti and he keeps protecting me.

That's part of why I think getting rid of Sultan has a benefit because with Sultan alive, there's always going to be an argument that scum is using him for NKs and not using their other actions.

Even if he's town, our ability to narrow things down moving forward improves?

Imagine you scanning Sultan and him not going somewhere.