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WazzupGenius00 posted...

If you had Swarm or Helicarrier you could probably force a card into Lukes Bar by filling up your hand after playing into it

That's what I ended up doing, but still

I wish Destroy had more low cost Destroying cards. It can be annoying sometimes pulling stuff off when most of them are 3 energy to kill anything. Maybe I just dont have a more optimal setup for mine or something

I'm pretty sure Galactus cursed me.

oh god mr negative day

I hit 6k tokens again. Not sure what to do with them just yet. Dont really want Kang, not sure if I want Galactus a ton and am not too interested in the next upcoming big bad either. On the other hand the others cards will eventually join lower pools so spending 6k tokens just to use them earlier feels a little odd too. Looking forward to the free Kitty we eventually get this month though. Ive got Negasonic pinned and shes tempting despite what I said above

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For now Ill probably save them and see what kind of release Gwenpool has. It kinda feels tough in a way to be excited for new cards since it will take me ages to even be able to get them anyways.

swordz9 posted...

I hit 6k tokens again. Not sure what to do with them just yet. Dont really want Kang, not sure if I want Galactus a ton and am not too interested in the next upcoming big bad either. On the other hand the others cards will eventually join lower pools so spending 6k tokens just to use them earlier feels a little odd too. Looking forward to the free Kitty we eventually get this month though. Ive got Negasonic pinned and shes tempting despite what I said above

Negasonic should be dropping to Series 4 in the Tuesday patch (which will also be when everyone gets Kitty Pryde), so you can save 3k Tokens by waiting 2 days

Is Negasonic anything but a meme though

Down to my last two missing Series 3 cards (until Tuesday): Beast and MBaku

Wild that Im at 3821 Collection Level and Im still basically locked out of playing the Bounce archetype

ahhhh Ms. Marvel Captain Marvel showed up, but I feel like I still want Artgerm Marvel more...but the Ms. Marvel one is also so good

interesting new mission type: winning with certain cards in your deck (in this case star lord)

I absolutely hate that

ahhhh debating picking up howard the duck or jeff here. i have 16600 tokens and not that much interest in other cards. maybe high evolutionary.

did not pick up iron lad but i think howard is very useful in any control and galactus deck and i feel like everybody i play against has jeff in every deck

maybe i just pin jeff and wait for him to drop to series 4 a month from now

foolm0r0n posted...

I absolutely hate that

Seriously

TEN wins with Star Lord? That's so obnoxious

I don't mind the 10 wins with Star-Lord. Gives people an excuse to play another deck for a while.

I am less upset now having tried it

If they start giving daily missions those stipulations it might be a game breaker for me though

Patch Notes

https://www.marvelsnap.com/newsdetail?id=7226612130068355846

Keeping Darkhawk and Knull in series 4? so much for me getting knull for free today

Also Deathwave was completely killed, sorry Shattered

So does that mean my pinned Negasonic will drop down to 3k tokens automatically?

Wow I wonder if they are creating a permanent Series 4 tier

I dont understand the Death buff at all. Was she really having trouble getting played?

Changes are nice

Kitty seems way too weak with this new change but I'm willing to try her

Galactus decks eating good with that Death reduction

thankfully they posted on discord that they're looking to make changes to galactus soon(tm)

I have a hard time believing Death never got played outside of Wave and Galactus decks. It's not like it's difficult in regular destroy decks to get her to a low enough amount of energy to play her at a cheap cost. Now she's an easy 0 turn 6 on top of whatever else you want to play which kind of sucks.

That wave nerf is absolutely balls and I hope there's enough backlash that they have to backpedal. Deathwave wasn't a dominant deck and they didn't just nerf the deck, they made it flat out unplayable.

I haven't played much this season due to being busy and spending my limited free time on other games but this completely kills my desire to play at all.

PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

I have a hard time believing Death never got played outside of Wave and Galactus decks. It's not like it's difficult in regular destroy decks to get her to a low enough amount of energy to play her at a cheap cost. Now she's an easy 0 turn 6 on top of whatever else you want to play which kind of sucks.

She definitely isn't an easy 0 cost turn 6 play. She needed wave to be a 0 cost turn 6 play most of the time outside Galactus or the destroy rock location. She's still only going to see play in Galactus and Destroy decks and I'd say even with the slight cost reduction, her use will plummet now Wave doesn't work with her.

The trouble with Death is most cards that Destroy cost 3 or more, so you cant play many of them. You basically need to rely on Killmonger to get more than 4 or 5 points off of her cost.

And if you have something like Venom destroying a lot of cards, it's just going to get hit with Shang anyway.

Ive never had issues playing Death, but my main decks are Jubilee and Destroy. I also never hit high tier so just about anything is playable where Im at.

Deathwave wasn't dominating the meta but it was reducing design space. Every cost reduction ability that they create had to be considered with Wave. We already had 2 in the game and people would play She-Hulk + Death + another 6 drop on turn 6.

Add in a few more cards that reduce their own cost (like Abomination with High Evolutionary in a few weeks) and eventually Wave might allow someone to play their entire hand of cost reduced 6 drops on turn 6. I doubt that's the direction that they want the game to go.

8 cost Death for destroy decks makes a lot of sense for sure. She's weak to Shang and is very likely to be White Queen'd.

It really was the Wave interaction that made her busted. Their explanation makes a lot of sense - literally 100% of cards that lower cost, and all future cards with the same effect, required Wave to work best. That's just bad design.

I mean basically you have to ask yourself how are you destroying 8 cards before turn 6 whilst leaving you with a winnable board or enough cards in hand to make it winnable? Galactus works because it removes the other 2 locations from play, destroy find it's a lot harder.

Also the other issue with this Wave change is it creates the Aero problem again. It improved Waves disruption as now there's less counterplay to her blocking off T6 plays. So you can throw her down in T5 to create I win or retreat scenarios.

Shattered posted...

It improved Waves disruption as now there's less counterplay to her blocking off T6 plays. So you can throw her down in T5 to create I win or retreat scenarios.

That was already happening outside of other dedicated Wave decks, so it's a distinction without a functional difference

Like Waves best use outside of Galactus now is probably some front heavy deck that controls the board in later turns.

I'm not against changing Wave herself, I'm against them killing off entire decks by doing so whilst they leave far better decks unchanged. Waves change should have come with other changes to leave the decks she was used in still playable.

trdl23 posted...

That was already happening outside of other dedicated Wave decks, so it's a distinction without a functional difference

I mention it because they previously said they wanted to avoid that happening. Then go ahead and make a change that allows that to happen.

She's equivalent to Sandman when played on 5. We already have to counterplay Sandman who very hot in the meta, so it's not much different. No one was running She-Hulk/Death to counter turn 5 Wave anyway.

KommunistKoala posted...

thankfully they posted on discord that they're looking to make changes to galactus soon(tm)

Good, honestly he could use a +1/2 attack buff

Wave's disruption is unchanged unless your opponent was also playing Death or She-Hulk. So I'm not sure what you're saying there.

Wave is still a good turn 5 play against Sera style zoo decks. This was actually a BUFF against those decks because Sera would reduce Wave cards to 3 instead of 4 and Sandman could lower some cards even more to 2.

So even after Wave a Sera deck could still play three 4 drops on turn 6 but not anymore.

foolm0r0n posted...

She's equivalent to Sandman when played on 5. We already have to counterplay Sandman who very hot in the meta, so it's not much different. No one was running She-Hulk/Death to counter turn 5 Wave anyway.

foolm0r0n posted...

She's equivalent to Sandman when played on 5. We already have to counterplay Sandman who very hot in the meta, so it's not much different. No one was running She-Hulk/Death to counter turn 5 Wave anyway.

I mean it's another hard Sera counter like Sandman is. And if you're playing her as disruption you can still use the extra 2 energy for something else too unlike with She-Hulk.

skullbone posted...

and Sandman could lower some cards even more to 2.

So even after Wave a Sera deck could still play three 4 drops on turn 6

Wait wut

He means Zabu.

Sidenote but I also feel that patches like this should not come midseason, they should come at the start of the season. Which is a problem with their patch cycle rather than the changes themselves

That much is true

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

I dont understand the Death buff at all. Was she really having trouble getting played?

I think its to make up for the Wave nerf.

Wow lots of card acquisition changes

Starting next month, some cards will release directly to Series 4, and the series drop schedule will be on a card by card basis

Also theyre adding the ability to buy Mystery Series 3 cards for 1000 Tokens for those who want to speed through Series 3

I do like those changes but I'm not sure how I feel about cards not dropping on a schedule. But this is obviously to stop people from pinning a card for 2 months until it drops in price. Now you don't know when (or if) it will ever drop in price.

Unless they let people know the expected time to series drop on card release then the change is probably a monetary one so they can keep high usage cards in higher series for longer.

If they are transparent about it and let people know ahead of time what a cards drop schedule looks like then I'm for it

Oh they outright said the more impactful cards will stay at higher series longer. So it's entirely about money then.

Like you could put a spin on it and say the weaker cards need to see more play to get balanced but realistically this is just a way for them to keep card acquisition rate at a similar level whilst keeping the better cards out of your hands for longer.