Board 8 > Video Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D

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Corrik7 posted...

Lopen would have eventually given us a person that is scum as town in his results. But, he wouldn't have done it night 1. He needed to burrow some trust in. So ulti is confirmed town.

I was kinda thinking that as well. Kinda a low risk confirm really

MZero's claim is not what makes me think he is town. That was regarding everything with Sultan yesterday.

I don't know if i necessarily agree. With cop dead that only way he could get wrecked is if his target is lynched, or they kill them.

Scum wouldn't be inclined to kill a town ulti that is not a danger to them. Norv would they kill their own.

And ulti's name has been bounced around but not really under any pressure. If lopen flips scum then i don't think it totally clears Ulti. Just a point in his favor to be weighed.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

You only saw Mzero???

The Killer would have to be a ninja strongman to have killed red at this point???

To not be seen by you, not have killed the BG...

Also I missed it initially too but it has just been repeated over and over that he saw more than the two.

Ah a Corrik I love to see

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

You only saw Mzero???

The Killer would have to be a ninja strongman to have killed red at this point???

To not be seen by you, not have killed the BG...

Yeah maybe I don't think wallz either.

Walls Mzero Lopen scum or be a fucking legend if I got this day 1 lol.

Also no one thinks Mzero is lying here??? Kinda easy to fake right?

Sultan
plz

ctesjbuvf posted...

Also I missed it initially too but it has just been repeated over and over that he saw more than the two.

Fair but uhh why hide that information?! Actually fuck he would have saw so many people its still not adding up that he only mentions Mzero plz

I think Peaf looks like someone looking to keep options available despite having said today is set in stone.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Fair but uhh why hide that information?! Actually fuck he would have saw so many people its still not adding up that he only mentions Mzero plz

MZero claimed it himself, Wallz just confirmed it.

Yeah idk just like seems so fishy. Only mentions Mzero not death or the killer if he saw 3 people.

If you're town dude why not just lay it all on the table it's so fishy..

ctesjbuvf posted...

MZero claimed it himself, Wallz just confirmed it.

If he is claiming watcher this was kinda a shit way to do it exspecshally since Mzero you know went to the person who was killed!

There's too many unknowns to declare with certainty how things will go after today, ctes.

That said, I fundamentally disagree with marth's suggestion for a mass claim. I think that comes from gleeful scum.

Sultan you do realize he also confirmed he saw me

I don't necessarily think it was the play. But I don't think it's fishy. Town often play their roles suboptimal, it's not a big deal. He can't fake watcher on red.

htaeD posted...

Sultan you do realize he also confirmed he saw me

Where i must have missed that but besides that it is still weird if you went to the person killed and watched them You lay that shit out if you're gonna claim.

Or try to orchestrate a same time and if someone slips and says something other than visiting that person there ya go.

But that is just me

Peace___Frog posted...

There's too many unknowns to declare with certainty how things will go after today, ctes.

That said, I fundamentally disagree with marth's suggestion for a mass claim. I think that comes from gleeful scum.

Well yeah me too, you don't do that when you're certain you have scum imo, but I mean town often wants masses.

Hmm okay so basically unless he is hiding more one if you and Mzero are lying here death is that it?

Player List

1) Peace___Frog - please do not lynch today
2) UltimaterializerX - possible scum. Please do not lynch today
3) htaeD - possible scum. Please do not lynch today or tomorrow
4) MZero - possible scum. Please do not lynch today or tomorrow
5) Corrik7 - possible scum. Please do not lynch today
6) wallmasterz - very unlikely scum. Please do not ever lynch
7) ctesjbuvf - possible scum. Please do not lynch today
8) Obellisk - unlikely scum. Please do not lynch today or tomorrow
9) EDumey - unlikely scum. Please do not lynch today or tomorrow. If he makes it to endgame then he is on the table, however.
10) TheSultanOfSlam - possible scum but I think he is town. Please do not lynch today or tomorrow
11) SirChris - possible scum. Please do not lynch today
12) Lopen - please lynch today
13) UnderUrMattress - unlikely scum. Please do not lynch today or tomorrow, but if he makes it to endgame and there is no gf flipped you cannot in full confidence say he is 100% town.

Is that acceptable to you?

I dont want to muddy the waters here, so let me give a tiny bit more info:

When I watched red last night, I saw Death, MZero, and one other person. Three people total. It is a near certainty in my mind the third person is doctor. For this person to be scum, it means the doctor did not save red last night or MZero or death are lying town and one is doctor. Or we have a ninja doctor lol. Highly unlikely.

I didnt see a need to out this person, but their posts have been consistent with being doctor. The only downfall of me keeping this info to myself is if Im wrong, and theyre scum, Id likely be killed for having this info and never have shared it.

imo, the likeliest explanations here are 1) death is scum, or 2) scum has a ninja and death is telling the truth.

When i say "possible" it doesn't mean i think they are scum, just that they can be. I was wrong about bct, and was pretty embarrassingly wrong throughout almost all of Mario.

I don't think there's any reason to reveal the third person wallz

Sultan is fishing because he's scum tbh

MZero posted...

I don't think there's any reason to reveal the third person wallz

Sultan is fishing because he's scum tbh

I completely agree and just hadnt said as much because I dont want to beat a dead horse (my sultan suspicion)

MZero posted...

I don't think there's any reason to reveal the third person wallz

Sultan is fishing because he's scum tbh

Yeah kill mzero

He is scum.

wallmasterz posted...

I dont want to muddy the waters here, so let me give a tiny bit more info:

When I watched red last night, I saw Death, MZero, and one other person. Three people total. It is a near certainty in my mind the third person is doctor. For this person to be scum, it means the doctor did not save red last night or MZero or death are lying town and one is doctor. Or we have a ninja doctor lol. Highly unlikely.

I didnt see a need to out this person, but their posts have been consistent with being doctor. The only downfall of me keeping this info to myself is if Im wrong, and theyre scum, Id likely be killed for having this info and never have shared it.

imo, the likeliest explanations here are 1) death is scum, or 2) scum has a ninja and death is telling the truth.

Why didn't you say this from the get go

wallmasterz posted...

I completely agree and just hadnt said as much because I dont want to beat a dead horse (my sultan suspicion)

Okay lynch me then I'll shot mzero and kill scum

Wallz, I'm not saying this to get you to go down a crazy rabbit hole or anything.

But as someone who is apparently known for tunneling too hard... please allow space in your head for the circumstance in which that third person is not a doctor. They very well could be, but I would suggest that you don't treat it as a guarantee.

But why was Mzero never considered as scum, Wall?

Peace___Frog posted...

Wallz, I'm not saying this to get you to go down a crazy rabbit hole or anything.

But as someone who is apparently known for tunneling too hard... please allow space in your head for the circumstance in which that third person is not a doctor. They very well could be, but I would suggest that you don't treat it as a guarantee.

Bingo

I think Wallz played this completely wrong but yeah probably town .should have just said that from the get go and I would have been completely fine with it

That said I would like to hear why Sultan trusts me more than mzero

wallmasterz posted...

I dont want to muddy the waters here, so let me give a tiny bit more info:

When I watched red last night, I saw Death, MZero, and one other person. Three people total. It is a near certainty in my mind the third person is doctor. For this person to be scum, it means the doctor did not save red last night or MZero or death are lying town and one is doctor. Or we have a ninja doctor lol. Highly unlikely.

I didnt see a need to out this person, but their posts have been consistent with being doctor. The only downfall of me keeping this info to myself is if Im wrong, and theyre scum, Id likely be killed for having this info and never have shared it.

imo, the likeliest explanations here are 1) death is scum, or 2) scum has a ninja and death is telling the truth.

Or scum is 1 of the 3, they kill you when you didn't reveal your info so that it creates a massive Wifom. Was scum the third you didn't reveal? But what if scum was mzero or death but they successfully took off suspicion by making people think it was the third unnamed. You are doing the same inane thing that was done last game by claiming but not revealing all your info. Who was it last game that just did this nonsense? Did we learn nothing?

htaeD posted...

That said I would like to hear why Sultan trusts me more than mzero

I mean I had you as a town lean and him as scum in my mind if that answers that.

Outta to two id probably day A gravedigger is easier to fake

htaeD posted...

That said I would like to hear why Sultan trusts me more than mzero

cause im funnier

By the way, i said that thing about the tunneling about myself. Not you.

Just thinking back to what Dumey said about me... Town cop Death said the same thing in xenoblade when he was my target of attention, and when i outed him and he revealed that his action against scumbell failed, everyone jumped onto sbell immediately because that's a scummy thing to be Untargetable.

Death why did you target red?

htaeD posted...

But why was Mzero never considered as scum, Wall?

I planned to work my way through the group of people who visited red for reactions. Started with death (my scummiest read) then MZero claimed before he even knew I watched red. The third person, I felt confident I knew what their claim would be, true or false, if pressed to claim, based on things they said. This was also before I claimed.

MZero could be scum, sure. I have not written that possibility off. But I think hes town.

Also wallz who do you trust the person you're not revealing not asking you to reveal but why do you trust them mote then death and Mzero?

Why do you not who do you

wallmasterz posted...

I planned to work my way through the group of people who visited red for reactions. Started with death (my scummiest read) then MZero claimed before he even knew I watched red. The third person, I felt confident I knew what their claim would be, true or false, if pressed to claim, based on things they said. This was also before I claimed.

MZero could be scum, sure. I have not written that possibility off. But I think hes town.

Did mzero claim after you claimed to watch red?

You have it in that quote, Corrik.

MZero claimed before he even knew I watched red

Everyone saying I played this wrong isnt accounting for all the insight Im getting into who is asking for more information, what information theyre asking for, and how dedicated/pushy they seem to be to finding that information. I dont regret trickling info out or gunning for death.

@Sheep007 @Kirby321 new topic soon pls?

wallmasterz posted...

Everyone saying I played this wrong isnt accounting for all the insight Im getting into who is asking for more information, what information theyre asking for, and how dedicated/pushy they seem to be to finding that information. I dont regret trickling info out or gunning for death.

Nobody ever learns in these games.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

I mean I had you as a town lean and him as scum in my mind if that answers that.

Outta to two id probably day A gravedigger is easier to fake

Easier than bodyguard?

Corrik7 posted...

Or scum is 1 of the 3, they kill you when you didn't reveal your info so that it creates a massive Wifom. Was scum the third you didn't reveal? But what if scum was mzero or death but they successfully took off suspicion by making people think it was the third unnamed. You are doing the same inane thing that was done last game by claiming but not revealing all your info. Who was it last game that just did this nonsense? Did we learn nothing?

I think scum would be far more likely to target town power than to kill me in hopes of setting up a wifom situation that might just flop. I doubt my death would really move death or mzero off peoples radars, but point taken

Corrik7 posted...

Death why did you target red?

I couldnt think of who scum would shoot to avoid protection or scanners so I figured I might as well protect Red just to be safe.
I did consider Chris for a while, but I got paranoid about a scumChris and wanted to see if scum would shoot him instead.
That and I could not be sure if the doctor would try to be clever about his own target

wallmasterz posted...

Everyone saying I played this wrong isnt accounting for all the insight Im getting into who is asking for more information, what information theyre asking for, and how dedicated/pushy they seem to be to finding that information. I dont regret trickling info out or gunning for death.

I still disagree tou have a scum in your sites and you're not going to disclose that it's pretty stupid. I'm not even asking for the name just why you trust them more the. Death and mzero?

Corrik7 posted...

Nobody ever learns in these games.

You are always for someone outing town doctor, cop, etc.?

ctesjbuvf posted...

Easier than bodyguard?

Hey either I die eventually or I eat up their RBs
That sorta works for me

wallmasterz posted...

I planned to work my way through the group of people who visited red for reactions. Started with death (my scummiest read) then MZero claimed before he even knew I watched red. The third person, I felt confident I knew what their claim would be, true or false, if pressed to claim, based on things they said. This was also before I claimed.

MZero could be scum, sure. I have not written that possibility off. But I think hes town.

...You probably should have remembered that my timezone would not help your plan

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

I still disagree tou have a scum in your sites and you're not going to disclose that it's pretty stupid. I'm not even asking for the name just why you trust them more the. Death and mzero?

It has nothing to do with my trust in the person and all to do with the fact I believe this game has a doctor, it is logical to assume the doctor visited red, and mzero/death are either scum or telling the truth about their roles instead of lying town