Board 8 > Video Game Console Mafia - Topic 4: 2D or not 2D

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htaeD posted...

Also I am inclined to believe Mzero's claim and that red would copscan Marth

The way his power is worded tho makes it sound like it is not as useful if he only gets scanresults and not also target choices. I'd like Mzero to clarify which is the case.

Well, I did mention that I could find out who Lopen hid behind, which isn't technically a scan

UnderUrMattress posted...

SBell certainly became a lot more stinky towards EOD imo.

No, i believe I became more stinky in Day 2 as more claims came out and the pool of possible suspects decreased (or maybe increased?)... also not really being around too participate in this mishamosh.

Although now that I think about it, my role might not actually work with Hider

Because I wasn't actually told that red targeted Marth. I just got a result that basically said marth is town. Also upon reread it does say I might not learn who they targeted. So I think I might just get the result iself, which in the case of hider would just be "action successful" "roleblocked" or "action failed" or something

htaeD posted...

But I didnt fakeclaim in xenoblade, lol

If I have to, I have to. But for now I am confident in my ability to explain myself

I dont want to put all my d2 efforts behind lynching you if youre town, death. If you dont claim thats whats going to happen.

Between re-reading some of d1 and then d2 so far, youre my strongest scum read.

flavorcop/cop (cop)
hider (protection/townkill/cop)
vengeful (extrakill)
graverobber (backup)
miller

ami missing anything at the moment? because that's a lot of overlap assuming we still have a real doctor out there.

I've never been hider before, but do they usually get their target confirmed in case of redirects? Like "you successfully hid behind Ulti"?

I'm not really sure

MZero posted...

Well, I did mention that I could find out who Lopen hid behind, which isn't technically a scan

Oh ok. More useful then

wallmasterz posted...

I dont want to put all my d2 efforts behind lynching you if youre town, death. If you dont claim thats whats going to happen.

Between re-reading some of d1 and then d2 so far, youre my strongest scum read.

Then tell me why and absorb my answers instead of just demanding I claim while not listening to me.

MZero posted...

Although now that I think about it, my role might not actually work with Hider

Because I wasn't actually told that red targeted Marth. I just got a result that basically said marth is town. Also upon reread it does say I might not learn who they targeted. So I think I might just get the result iself, which in the case of hider would just be "action successful" "roleblocked" or "action failed" or something

Oh nvm what I said before then

Also respond to the Lopen/Dumey situation, Wallz

wallmasterz posted...

I dont want to put all my d2 efforts behind lynching you if youre town, death. If you dont claim thats whats going to happen.

Between re-reading some of d1 and then d2 so far, youre my strongest scum read.

...nothing on the Lopen/Dumey thing?

curse you death

Keheheheh

Would like more from SBell, too

Agreed

I mean, he's talking this morning, you could engage him more.

but I'll admit I'm very detached from this game currently.

Any reason for that?

I originally had lopen as scum lean but he had some posts that i was really agreeing with. He misrepresented the f*** out of death towards day end but i think that's just him being wrong town at this point.

Peaf giving me second thoughts by mentioning this about Lopen.
Moreso because it sounds like he is calling me a townread here but did not veto a lynch on me earlier.

htaeD posted...

Any reason for that?

just had a lot doing these last few days haven't been able to give the game the attention it deserves.

I will say that going after the first post claimed miller after a flipped cop, hider and backup claims is a bit... womp womp

Who is going after you?
I admit I didnt notice resentment against you as much since Lopen painted a bigger target on himself.

Marth threw shade see above

Hmm
Well I will look into what he could even mean with that
Though I dont think its unreasonable to assume scum could fakeclaim miller expecting a cop to be in the game. Though thats not really the likeliest theory I am going with at all. Just saying some players might not see a miller claim as proof.

you know I don't really get my gumption till I've been confirmed town.

Oh and to answer Mzero's question

I believe power roles like Hider would just get a "Your action was succesful" result.
(though it does mean you can probably find out if someone was roleblocked or not... which doesnt help much I see now that I typed it out)

Obellisk posted...

you know I don't really get my gumption till I've been confirmed town.

I am extremely aware of that

htaeD posted...

Then tell me why and absorb my answers instead of just demanding I claim while not listening to me.

Because you visited Red last night.

Im Virtual Boy. Town watcher, but single use. With respect to the paraphrasing rule Ill let you all connect the flavor meta dots on why my power is short lived. lol

htaeD posted...

Also respond to the Lopen/Dumey situation, Wallz

MZero posted...

...nothing on the Lopen/Dumey thing?

I think Dumey is town and Lopen is scum.

Obellisk posted...

I mean, he's talking this morning, you could engage him more.

well I meant specifically on the Lopen/Dumey thing

You've recieved votals through SpotPass
[2] Lopen - Dumey, Ulti, (Marth)
[1] Death - Wallz, (Peaf)
[1] Dumey - Lopen
[0] Chris - (Ulti)
[0] Marth - (Peaf), (Lopen)

I can also confirm MZero visited Red last night. I buy MZeros claim so he and Marth are on my town list.

wallmasterz posted...

Because you visited Red last night.

Im Virtual Boy. Town watcher, but single use. With respect to the paraphrasing rule Ill let you all connect the flavor meta dots on why my power is short lived. lol

And you could not think of any town reason why I would want to target Red?

Ah well cats out of the bag now

Xbox One, TOWN Bodyguard.

Tell us about the mechanics of Bodyguard

Oh wait nobody else visited Red then, thats why you blame me.
Got it.

But to me this just proves that it was Mzero who killed him.

Either that or a Ninja modifier was placed on top of a strongman modifier somehow.

I believe your power at least since I dont think scum would suicide to take me out.

yeah I don't think you needed to claim there wallz. Of course protection would have gone to red

Although I'm surprised death wasn't doctor (unless there are more people who visited red that you're not mentioning)

If you're watcher, scum most likely has a ninja. The question is can they ninja strongman

wallmasterz posted...

Tell us about the mechanics of Bodyguard

I target a player at night, and I die instead of them. Its basically a kill redirect.(Though I think rankwise its moreso considered a standard power)

Thats how I know townpowers like hider only get a succesful result message and arent told who they targeted. Because my action was succesful.

Iam surprised a doctor did not try to protect Red as well.
Maybe they were trying to be clever
Because I did consider protecting Chris instead.
But I wanted to see if scum would try to shoot Chris instead and Red was way more important.

The fact that I have seen strongman modifiers be separate from a standard ninja scum role is why I am not just outright voting you, Mzero.

At least one other person visited red. Id prefer not to say how many people I observed visiting red at this point.

Yeah, ninja might exist but I dont think its a lock for this game like it would be with a full time watcher role.

Death could be telling the truth. I would feel a lot better if he had claimed doctor because bodyguard is a coin toss at best between truthful and scum who fully expects a doctor to exist and is trying to avoid a counterclaim.

htaeD posted...

And you could not think of any town reason why I would want to target Red?

Ah well cats out of the bag now

Xbox One, TOWN Bodyguard.

Don't love it.

Chris this may be my POV talking but I feel you are rushing your reaction here.

Anyway, I dont know whats likelier
That the third person Wallz saw is the doctor or the killer or that a ninja strongman also targeted Red

My role btw is why I acted so surprised at Reds death from the very start of the game

*the day
Not the game

Bodyguard on the dead body is pretty classic scum claim death. It's like in a dictionary somewhere. If you were bg in a vame of this size you would know you aren't the primary protection and so you don't save the primary target.

Will return this evening but this one is pretty straight forward to me.

I am also weighing the options of whether it is necessary for Wallz to share his info since he should have seen Reds actual killer
I have to assume a doctor exists as well who can protect him, and that scum is out of strongman kills
So it may not be necessary
I just worry about letting info slip by

SirChris posted...

Bodyguard on the dead body is pretty classic scum claim death. It's like in a dictionary somewhere. If you were bg in a vame of this size you would know you aren't the primary protection and so you don't save the primary target.

Will return this evening but this one is pretty straight forward to me.

Well thats just lazy of you then Chris
I simply didnt have a better target in my mind.

Maybe I would have targeted someone else if I had decided to hint at a target during the day. But I did not want to do that either so I just stuck to the boring option. I had no idea who scum could even shoot besides Red.

Alright I finally have time to read and analyse.

I'm no claiming expert but i don't think that was necessary at all when we have lopen dead to rights, wallz. And probably not in that way.

Death could be truthful, but it is a super easy claim for scum like Chris says. Lopen/death/corrik/marth?