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Peace___Frog 05/07/23 9:56:01 PM #201: |
SirChris posted... I give out bulletproof vests that can be shot once.Ok so let's complete this circle of facts. You and death targeted red n1. No protection happened because of a presumable strongman. You targeted ??? N2. I commuted n2. No one died. You targeted ??? N3. I jailkept ctes. No one died. So it is possible I'm not the nighttime savior of b8tham and your actions prevented the kills. I understand wanting to keep your remaining info hidden. Without delving into it, do you think it to be more likely that ctes sent in the kill last night, or that they popped one of your shields? --- ~Peaf~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EDumey 05/07/23 9:56:16 PM #202: |
UnderUrMattress posted... i am so suspicious of you right now For what? --- my links broke. :( ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MZero 05/07/23 9:56:20 PM #203: |
SirChris posted... Bodyguard on the dead body is pretty classic scum claim death. It's like in a dictionary somewhere. If you were bg in a vame of this size you would know you aren't the primary protection and so you don't save the primary target. --- MZero, to the extreme https://www.twitch.tv/kabazame ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnderUrMattress 05/07/23 9:56:35 PM #204: |
which is more likely? A. mafia targets commuter and then gets roleblocked by same commuter claim B. at least one of the vests were hit don't mind me but i'm an Occam's Razor kind of guy, and B just seems much more likely to me. --- ~masterofmarth~ I have no idea why I'm on this site still. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MZero 05/07/23 9:56:37 PM #205: |
SirChris posted... I thought it was me + doctor as 2 protections initially tbh which is why I nope'd bg --- MZero, to the extreme https://www.twitch.tv/kabazame ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SirChris 05/07/23 9:57:45 PM #206: |
Peace___Frog posted... Ok so let's complete this circle of facts. N2 I think is you, last night I think was me. Based on how the game has gone. --- Acknowledge Me "Yeah Chris is right." - Eddv, no context required. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Peace___Frog 05/07/23 9:58:20 PM #207: |
EDumey posted... For what?I understand now why you targeted a scummy player last night. But i think that Chris is extremely good at this game and i don't understand how you and wallz both on day 2 said you thought that death was more likely to be scum than chris. And this could still be a fake claim and you've been bamboozled by scum in a side chat once more. --- ~Peaf~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MZero 05/07/23 9:58:58 PM #208: |
Chris: Death wouldn't target red as BG because he knows he's not the primary protection Also Chris: targeted red --- MZero, to the extreme https://www.twitch.tv/kabazame ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SirChris 05/07/23 9:59:17 PM #209: |
There may be a misunderstanding. If a doctor protects someone with a vest the vest doesn't pop. I didn't target red n1 to save him n1. I targeted him so he might have a vest later on in the game if the doctor should die. Alas. --- Acknowledge Me "Yeah Chris is right." - Eddv, no context required. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Peace___Frog 05/07/23 9:59:24 PM #210: |
SirChris posted... N2 I think is you, last night I think was me. Based on how the game has gone.And yet you still have your vote on ctes? If you don't think i blocked the kill then you have no reason to suspect him, as far as night actions go. --- ~Peaf~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MZero 05/07/23 9:59:26 PM #211: |
as armorer when he admitted he thought there was a doctor --- MZero, to the extreme https://www.twitch.tv/kabazame ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MZero 05/07/23 10:00:42 PM #212: |
SirChris posted... There may be a misunderstanding. If a doctor protects someone with a vest the vest doesn't pop. oh I got excited and misunderstood still don't love the claim but that part makes sense at least --- MZero, to the extreme https://www.twitch.tv/kabazame ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SirChris 05/07/23 10:02:01 PM #213: |
Peace___Frog posted... And yet you still have your vote on ctes? If you don't think i blocked the kill then you have no reason to suspect him, as far as night actions go. Well dumey and I had a long discussion about mzero last night so I knew that angle already. Ctes is kind of boring and want to see what they have to say. --- Acknowledge Me "Yeah Chris is right." - Eddv, no context required. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Peace___Frog 05/07/23 10:02:34 PM #215: |
SirChris posted... There may be a misunderstanding. If a doctor protects someone with a vest the vest doesn't pop.In a game without a doctor... was that explicitly explained to you? I'm going to assume that very few of us have played in a game with an armourer before. --- ~Peaf~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnderUrMattress 05/07/23 10:02:57 PM #216: |
##unvote ##Vote: MZero MZero/ctes/EDumey? --- ~masterofmarth~ I have no idea why I'm on this site still. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SirChris 05/07/23 10:03:54 PM #218: |
Peace___Frog posted... In a game without a doctor... was that explicitly explained to you? I'm going to assume that very few of us have played in a game with an armourer before. No, I just know how bulletproof vests generally work. The current claims make elegant sense though. --- Acknowledge Me "Yeah Chris is right." - Eddv, no context required. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SirChris 05/07/23 10:04:47 PM #219: |
Anyway I am busy but also I was purposefully not being very active to keep under the radar Although wallz sniffed me out. --- Acknowledge Me "Yeah Chris is right." - Eddv, no context required. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnderUrMattress 05/07/23 10:05:04 PM #220: |
@MZero How come you decided to instantly out your check on me instead of just softing it? I feel like you instantly claimed so that you had an alibi in case you got watched/tracked to red. --- ~masterofmarth~ I have no idea why I'm on this site still. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EDumey 05/07/23 10:06:52 PM #222: |
Peace___Frog posted... I understand now why you targeted a scummy player last night. If it helps, the reason why Wallz was fairly certain is because Chris left quite a few breadcrumbs for being protection. We talked about how Lopen breadcrumbing Hider wasn't a big deal, and I want to remind that Lopen knew he would be targetted at some point, and his intrinsic nature would be revealed, so it makes complete sense for him to have a fake claim prepared nice and early for that, and breadcrumb immediately. For scum Chris to breadcrumb protection from the start before any town protection was outted or talked about is a different story, because if someone catches that and then he can't claim protection because someone else claims doctor or something, then it's suspicious. Then again, I suppose you can argue that a Vanilla might breadcrumb protection sometimes to try and draw a shot. But that was the reason why we were willing to entertain the idea that Chris was protection. And once again to sound like a slight hypocrite to myself from earlier, if claimed protection Chris isn't killed by scum and makes it more than one night alive, he's likely scum. So this one I feel like is maybe testable because there's no way scum lets a town Chris hand out BP vests like candy when they've already missed two shots. --- my links broke. :( ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnderUrMattress 05/07/23 10:07:10 PM #223: |
I don't think Sultan is mafia anymore ESPECIALLY if MZero is mafia --- ~masterofmarth~ I have no idea why I'm on this site still. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MZero 05/07/23 10:07:44 PM #224: |
UnderUrMattress posted...
because you were getting a lot of pressure out of the gate --- MZero, to the extreme https://www.twitch.tv/kabazame ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnderUrMattress 05/07/23 10:09:05 PM #225: |
MZero posted... because you were getting a lot of pressure out of the gateWhat makes you think I can't fight my own battles? I was at work at the time you made your check on me, so while it was nice, I clearly didn't have a chance to defend myself before you came in. It just feels like too much of a coincidence. --- ~masterofmarth~ I have no idea why I'm on this site still. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SirChris 05/07/23 10:09:07 PM #226: |
EDumey posted... If it helps, the reason why Wallz was fairly certain is because Chris left quite a few breadcrumbs for being protection. Candy. Get your candy here. Also ulti pushing me/sultan so hard is scum siding pretty hard --- Acknowledge Me "Yeah Chris is right." - Eddv, no context required. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Peace___Frog 05/07/23 10:09:18 PM #227: |
Yeah I'm not opposed to this idea, Ulti. And it has the added benefit of potentially removing the ambiguity around the night kill situation. If he's limited use anyway... no real loss there! I think that sounds like too much protection tbh. Me and death both have downsides to our protection (he dies, i roleblock my target). --- ~Peaf~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheSultanOfSlam 05/07/23 10:10:10 PM #228: |
Ulti and Mzero would be amusing. I however still have the feeling Ulti is just all kinds of off --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnderUrMattress 05/07/23 10:10:44 PM #229: |
TheSultanOfSlam posted... Ulti and Mzero would be amusing. I however still have the feeling Ulti is just all kinds of offI don't anymore. Why do you still feel that way? --- ~masterofmarth~ I have no idea why I'm on this site still. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Peace___Frog 05/07/23 10:11:14 PM #230: |
A lot has happened Sultan, and that's all you have to say? What do you think of the claims? --- ~Peaf~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Peace___Frog 05/07/23 10:13:07 PM #231: |
EDumey posted... And once again to sound like a slight hypocrite to myself from earlier, if claimed protection Chris isn't killed by scum and makes it more than one night alive, he's likely scum. So this one I feel like is maybe testable because there's no way scum lets a town Chris hand out BP vests like candy when they've already missed two shots.Fuck when you talk smart it sounds so good. But if scum knows we'll lynch him if they don't kill him, surely that's all upside for them. --- ~Peaf~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheSultanOfSlam 05/07/23 10:13:59 PM #232: |
Peace___Frog posted... A lot has happened Sultan, and that's all you have to say? What do you think of the claims? Lol sorry im still in solve mode. Chris is probably fine that exsplains alot of the no kills. You jail kept Ctes you said that could also be a reason. And wirh no real doctor 3 weak protections makes sense. --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MZero 05/07/23 10:14:00 PM #233: |
UnderUrMattress posted... What makes you think I can't fight my own battles? I don't like withholding information unless I have to --- MZero, to the extreme https://www.twitch.tv/kabazame ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheSultanOfSlam 05/07/23 10:14:46 PM #234: |
UnderUrMattress posted... I don't anymore. I feel like his is being to obvious. I could be wrong and it's that simple it's Mzero and ulti --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnderUrMattress 05/07/23 10:16:14 PM #235: |
I keep forgetting about Corrik7. Hey Corrik7 if you're lurking as scum while town is imploding on itself, it's a great strategy and it might work. --- ~masterofmarth~ I have no idea why I'm on this site still. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MZero 05/07/23 10:17:04 PM #236: |
We haven't seen a scum EK yet and we know Peaf was RB'd and Chris and Death both targeted red. So unless they're holding it they don't have one and you think we have 3 protection roles? That seems like too much --- MZero, to the extreme https://www.twitch.tv/kabazame ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnderUrMattress 05/07/23 10:17:32 PM #237: |
Town: Peaf, wallz, Chris, Ulti, Sultan (will they all find each other? probably not) POE: EDumey, ctes, MZero, SBell, Corrik I actually feel pretty good about this. --- ~masterofmarth~ I have no idea why I'm on this site still. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheSultanOfSlam 05/07/23 10:19:19 PM #238: |
MZero posted... We haven't seen a scum EK yet and we know Peaf was RB'd and Chris and Death both targeted red. So unless they're holding it they don't have one and you think we have 3 protection roles? That seems like too much They are all very weak protection. Also a Bulletproof vest with my role Being out could make sense. --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MZero 05/07/23 10:19:22 PM #239: |
UnderUrMattress posted... Town: Peaf, wallz, Chris, Ulti, Sultan (will they all find each other? probably not) ah yes, the classic bussing of the untargetable roleblocker. Dumey is an evil genius --- MZero, to the extreme https://www.twitch.tv/kabazame ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EDumey 05/07/23 10:19:31 PM #240: |
Peace___Frog posted... Fuck when you talk smart it sounds so good. The hard part of this is that if I'm willing to let Chris live for a night, then that probably means I should wait on resolving MZero just in case Chris is the odd one out. That goes against what my brain is telling me, but is another step in the "pressure Ctes" direction. ##Unvote: ##Vote: Ctes --- my links broke. :( ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EDumey 05/07/23 10:21:42 PM #241: |
Yeah, I'm not sure why Marth suddenly suspects me. Is it just missing on Death and that's it? --- my links broke. :( ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnderUrMattress 05/07/23 10:22:40 PM #242: |
Chris, you should give a three pack. --- ~masterofmarth~ I have no idea why I'm on this site still. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MZero 05/07/23 10:22:55 PM #243: |
TheSultanOfSlam posted... They are all very weak protection. What? BG is weak. Commuter and Jailkeeper are strong. Armorer isn't weak at all. It's limited-use, but the protection lasts until they get shot. If used right you could have several players scum can't kill Also, Chris mentioned that the player isn't notified that they got a vest. Talk about convenient lol --- MZero, to the extreme https://www.twitch.tv/kabazame ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnderUrMattress 05/07/23 10:23:32 PM #244: |
EDumey posted... Yeah, I'm not sure why Marth suddenly suspects me. Is it just missing on Death and that's it?it's not MISSING on death it's grandstanding against all the logic that could've made the game a lot easier plus i think you had info and manipulated it against town --- ~masterofmarth~ I have no idea why I'm on this site still. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnderUrMattress 05/07/23 10:25:18 PM #246: |
UnderUrMattress posted... it's not MISSING on deathdid you know the third visitor? --- ~masterofmarth~ I have no idea why I'm on this site still. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EDumey 05/07/23 10:26:50 PM #247: |
UnderUrMattress posted... it's not MISSING on deathI think you overestimate your ability to control and plan night actions. When you publically plan out complex scenarios, scum does not opt into it. I stand by "grandstanding" and keeping town on track instead of putting itself in a trap of its own design. And again, the info I had yesterday, was that Chris was heavily breadcrumbed and likely protection, and assumed it was doctor. I did not learn that he was limited protection until after. --- my links broke. :( ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SirChris 05/07/23 10:27:15 PM #248: |
If ulti actually believed it was me/sultan he would be voting sultan but conveniently he is not because he doesn't want to get shot lol Nice try ulti but I sense your fear --- Acknowledge Me "Yeah Chris is right." - Eddv, no context required. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SirChris 05/07/23 10:28:05 PM #249: |
MZero posted... What? BG is weak. Commuter and Jailkeeper are strong. Armorer isn't weak at all. It's limited-use, but the protection lasts until they get shot. If used right you could have several players scum can't kill I literally softed as soon as I posted day 2 lol what do you want me to ask for a role modification x) --- Acknowledge Me "Yeah Chris is right." - Eddv, no context required. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MZero 05/07/23 10:28:29 PM #250: |
Marth: MZero is scum for claiming his info Also Marth: Dumey is scum for not claiming his info --- MZero, to the extreme https://www.twitch.tv/kabazame ... Copied to Clipboard!
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